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Mark Joyce

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From: Placerville, CA USA

Posted by Mark Joyce on Friday, February 25, 2005 11:42 PM

Count me in too, Steve. I'll probably be doing either a P-40E or N from the 49th FG, or an AVG bird. The decision depends on when the group build starts or (more likely) when I'm able to finish something. I have a couple P-40s in the works now but, because of work and family, my builds progress at a painfully slow pace! Sorry I can't be more specific now, but I'd hate to promise something and not deliver.

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fightnjoe

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Posted by fightnjoe on Friday, February 25, 2005 11:58 PM

ok steve i want a color pic of lt's taylor and welches p-40's. i want to be able to see the numbers and any unique stuff.

you did say
Any requests for reference, give a shout in this thread...

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yardbird78

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Posted by yardbird78 on Saturday, February 26, 2005 11:04 AM

Joe,
You should volunteer to use the Museum of Science and Industries new time machine and go back to Dec 7 and take a series of pictures of Lts Taylor & Welch's machines for all of us to use.

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BlackWolf3945

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December 2002
From: Pominville, NY

Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Saturday, February 26, 2005 2:28 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by fightnjoe

ok steve i want a color pic of lt's taylor and welches p-40's.

HA! Good luck...

Mark, No prob. Just let me know more specifics when you can. The build isn't going to begin for a couple months so there's plenty of time.

By the way, for some reason the Hawk's Nest website has an annoying habit of not auto-refreshing. So if and when you do visit the site again, hit your refresh button for every page you visit, just in case...

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roadkill_275

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September 2003
From: North East Texas

Posted by roadkill_275 on Sunday, February 27, 2005 9:56 AM

Steve, may I please join this one too? I have a revellogram P-40B T\that I would like to do for this. But, be forewarned, I haven't got a digital camera, so pics will be slow coming. At the moment I have about 60+ rolls of film to be developed, plus three or four albums to be scanned and the pics put in my photobucket album. I'll see what I have in the way of P-40s and get them posted here.

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Tankmaster7

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August 2004
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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Sunday, February 27, 2005 7:34 PM

drat. blackwolf, that patch is just so dratted AMAZING and OUTSTANDING that I want to join just to have it in my sig. But I can't. No kit, no money and too many other GB's. Sad [:(]

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Thehannaman2

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August 2004
From: Buffalo NY

Posted by Thehannaman2 on Wednesday, March 2, 2005 8:35 PM

I was looking through the Brett Green book "Modeling the P-40.....etc.etc." and noticed that MPM makes a P-40 F/L and SMER makes a "K." Does anyone have any experience with either of these kits? Are they worth baggin'?

BTW, they are both 72nd.

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rjkplasticmod

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February 2003
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, March 2, 2005 9:49 PM

The MPM 1/72 P-40 is a pretty nice kit unless you're a beginner. It's not an easy build. Sorry on the Smer kit, I'm not familiar with that one.

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BlackWolf3945

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December 2002
From: Pominville, NY

Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Wednesday, March 2, 2005 10:35 PM

If it's got the name SMER on it, I advise you to run screaming in any direction which will carry you away... far, far away.

Well, they're not THAT bad...

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 3, 2005 3:29 AM

I'd like to join in on this GB, I have the Eduard P 40n that can be done as an RAAF bird.

I have 5 x Wartime RAAF pix of the P 40n, if you would like them, just send an email to me and I send them back.

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waikong

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December 2002
From: NYC, USA

Posted by waikong on Thursday, March 3, 2005 12:49 PM

I've got a question regarding Tex Hill's AVG plane. Almost everyone that does his plane does the #48 B model with the tan/green camo or #108 E model with the All olive drab top camo. As I understand it, #48 crashed before it saw any action, and he didn't get 108 until sometime 6 months later. So what airplane did he fly in between? Or do I have my facts wrong? I'm asking cause I have a B, and 2 E's that I would like to turn into all the planes he flew while with the AVG.

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Thehannaman2

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August 2004
From: Buffalo NY

Posted by Thehannaman2 on Friday, March 4, 2005 7:34 PM

Not sure if anyone has ever posted this link, so here it is. Even for 1/32 this guy's got skills!

http://www.p40warhawk.com/Models/RodneyWilliams/P-40E_1/P-40E_1.htm

The build is absolutely awesome. Too bad he had to hide some of the finer points of his construction with paint. Bow [bow]

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rjkplasticmod

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February 2003
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Friday, March 4, 2005 7:39 PM

Pretty awesome.

Regards, Rick

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Mark Joyce

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March 2004
From: Placerville, CA USA

Posted by Mark Joyce on Saturday, March 5, 2005 12:00 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by waikong

I've got a question regarding Tex Hill's AVG plane. Almost everyone that does his plane does the #48 B model with the tan/green camo or #108 E model with the All olive drab top camo. As I understand it, #48 crashed before it saw any action, and he didn't get 108 until sometime 6 months later. So what airplane did he fly in between? Or do I have my facts wrong? I'm asking cause I have a B, and 2 E's that I would like to turn into all the planes he flew while with the AVG.

You're correct; #48 crashed during a landing accident on 9 Dec. '41. However, if I understand correctly, it was repaired and later flown again. Whether it saw any combat later, I don't know. Tex is credited with at least three kills in Robert Layher's #53, also a Tomahawk. Probably his other victories were in 2nd Squadron Tomahawks and E models before getting #108; the pilots were known for flying whatever was available at the moment, even if the plane was not specifically assigned as theirs. Chances are that the records of some of Tex's victories weren't kept as to the specific plane, so it might not be known exactly which plane he was flying for every victory.

This information is from Terrill Clement's Osprey book "AVG Group Colours and Markings," and Tex Hill's biography.

Hope this helps,

Mark

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waikong

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December 2002
From: NYC, USA

Posted by waikong on Sunday, March 6, 2005 4:21 PM

Mark, Thanks for the info, very well researched! I actually have Clements books, but obviously didn't read it as carefullyas you did. How is Tex Hill's book? I've heard there are many factual errors -as memory will do that- but well worth reading nevertheless. I met the gentleman a few years ago, while getting on in age, (he's 90 this year?) still sharp and was very nice ot me and my children. A very impressive man with a very impressive place in history.

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eagle334

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March 2003
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Posted by eagle334 on Monday, March 7, 2005 10:15 AM

Steve-a-reno

I think I will go with the Hasegawa E. Just picked it up at Niagara and it doesn't look too hard. Should have it done in a couple of weeks, in between wedding plans and all. Tongue [:P]

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 8, 2005 7:41 PM

Count me in on this build. I have three different P-40 kits in my stash and would like to build one or two of them. Furthermore the Hasagawa kit is singing its sirens song to me. I'll probably start with the Mauve Kittyhawk III. I guess I better start chasing the aftermarket stuff now!

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, March 8, 2005 9:23 PM

Steve:
Great site -- I like the way you're making this a lot more than just slamming models down for a badge.

I've got the 1/48 Academy-C & Trumpeter-B and some A/M but I haven't put any thought into just what I might do -- maybe throw everything onto the bench, stir twice, & see what comes out.

I can't do anything with this for a couple months -- bench (& mind) is full -- so put me in the Reserves for a 1/48 P-40B/C and I'll firm up my build later, if that's OK.

John

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rjkplasticmod

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February 2003
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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Tuesday, March 8, 2005 9:56 PM

Steve, any idea when the start date will be ? I've got a few in the Que, but don't want to get caught too much in the middle of multiple builds.

Regards, Rick

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BlackWolf3945

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December 2002
From: Pominville, NY

Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 6:51 PM

The duty rosters are up to date, Mark, Roadkill, Lobbie, SteveW and jratz... welcome to the build!

Ratz, that's A-O-K with me. If you wanna add another later, that's cool. If you wanna switch up in the middle of the build, that's okay. We can do whatever you want... we have the power to make it ALL happen... Tongue [:P]

Rick, I haven't come up with a specific date but I think it's going to 'officially' start at the beginning of May and go until... who knows...

Wayne, you're penciled in for a Hasegagme P-40E... and I haven't said congratulations, yet, have I? Well, I ain't gonna, neither... Wink [;)]

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rjkplasticmod

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Wednesday, March 9, 2005 9:02 PM

May is fine with me & I love the "whenever" completion date Big Smile [:D]

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Warhawk68

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July 2003
From: Atlanta, GA

Posted by Warhawk68 on Friday, March 11, 2005 2:47 PM

I just got the Hasegawa 1/48 "E" and it is so nice, I'm going to push everything else aside and build it! In fact, I'd like to bring it to the IPMS nationals in July.
Is there some time limits on this group build project?

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BlackWolf3945

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December 2002
From: Pominville, NY

Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Saturday, March 12, 2005 2:35 PM

Warhawk, I don't think there is going to be a time limit and I suppose if you want to get started earlier to make the NATS that would be okay. Exceptions can be made, I think, because all that really matters is that some models get built. Just be sure to post some photos...

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 13, 2005 4:05 AM

I wouldnt mind building a plane again, I havent built one since I was a kid. Having just seen Sky Captain Im itching to do a p40 not sure which type etc but having searched a bit , most people in the know think its close to a p40e or a p40f so I I can find either of those Id like to be in on this one. I vaguely remember a kit of John Belushis P40 from the film 1941 that would be pretty cool too but I reckon it would be long gone by now.

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Mark Joyce

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From: Placerville, CA USA

Posted by Mark Joyce on Monday, March 14, 2005 4:36 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Deusmex

I wouldnt mind building a plane again, I havent built one since I was a kid. Having just seen Sky Captain Im itching to do a p40 not sure which type etc but having searched a bit , most people in the know think its close to a p40e or a p40f so I I can find either of those Id like to be in on this one. I vaguely remember a kit of John Belushis P40 from the film 1941 that would be pretty cool too but I reckon it would be long gone by now.

The kit from the movie "1941," if I recall correctly, is the old Revell P-40E. It still shows up occasionally on Ebay but, unless you are buying it because you are a John Belushi fan, you'd probably be better served by AMtech's or Hasegawa's P-40E (these are both 1/48 scale). AMtech also puts out a nice P-40F/L with a resin nose, also in 1/48. I've only seen the previews of "Sky Captain," but my guess is that it's a P-40E.

Mark

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Thehannaman2

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August 2004
From: Buffalo NY

Posted by Thehannaman2 on Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:59 PM

Not to sound like a dullard, but where the heck are all the 1/72nd scale P-40 decals. Nobody seems to carry any! Guess I'll have to seriously comb the vendors at BufCon. Does anyone know where I can score some PTO or CBI US markings in 72nd?

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BlackWolf3945

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December 2002
From: Pominville, NY

Posted by BlackWolf3945 on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 4:44 PM

Justen, there are some 72nd decals to be had, but they aren't anywhere near as plentiful as in 48th. I had considered doing general building in 72nd and reserving 'special' projects for 48th and larger, but the lack of decals was the major factor in my ditching that idea.

I think that Errormaster/Beagle Strike may have done 72nd versions of their fairly recent 48th CBI P-40 sheets, but none show on their website.

Alrighty, if you know what subject you'll be building (not kit, but actual subject, ie; 49th FG P-40E) and have not said so in this thread, please do so. I'd like to keep track of what people may be building so that I can try and accommodate them in the reference dept., if they so choose to research their subject.

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 8:23 PM

Please count me in then . I will be doing the Hasegawa p40E with mods to make it Sky Captains h110d plane. Im guessing this will fall under the "what if" category.
This will be my first plane model in 23 years so I will probably be asking all sorts of stupid questions , given that the only planes I have built were airfix pocket money type stuff.

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Anonymous

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November 2005

Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:09 PM

Blackwolf, can you put me in the "reserves" for a 1/48 Mono P-40B? I think I got a AM sheet coming for it. I'm just now getting settled in at NAS Fallon. It does come w/ the AVG markings but I don't know if that sheet is a new issue sheet or 15+ years old. Thanks.

Sorry, it was a -B kit that I had. Tongue [:P]

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rjkplasticmod

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Posted by rjkplasticmod on Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:27 PM

Steve, I'll be doing the 1/48 Hasegawa P-40E as an Aleutians Tiger, 11th FS, 343rd FG.

Regards, Rick

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