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Old Guns Group Build #2 (35 and older) 11/1/05 - 5-1-06

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, November 25, 2005 5:49 PM
SeeBee it does look great though I would have never known about the wheel wells and behind unless you told.  That's the way building models is though all that matters is WE (the builder) know about it and thats enough to make us nuts Big Smile [:D]

Bob, thats a bummer about the decals.  Been der done dat uugggh (on an airliner not a car though)

Here's a little progress from me.  Primered and pre-shaded. Looks messy right now. Homemade tow cables, a little oversized but wont look too bad after painted.  I replaced the sight glasses/shields with strip brass.



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Posted by razordws on Friday, November 25, 2005 3:53 PM

 bobbaily wrote:

However, my 12 yr. old son wanted to know if he could keep it in his room if I wasn't going to put it with the rest of my models. Ya' gotta love kids.

Too bad about the Spy vs. Spy Bob but I know what you mean about the kids.  It's a great way to expand your available display area.  Wink [;)] 

Dave

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Posted by bobbaily on Friday, November 25, 2005 2:34 PM

Sigh.....things are not looking good for the Spy vs Spy Funny Car.  The kit had been on the shelf of my LHS for a couple of years before I bought it two years ago.  The decals are very large, to cover massive parts of the body.  Worse fears came true-a great deal of slivering, splitting and general mismatch.  Going to finish the build-just not the quality I was looking for.  However, my 12 yr. old son wanted to know if he could keep it in his room if I wasn't going to put it with the rest of my models. Ya' gotta love kids.

Bob

 

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Posted by stipp on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 5:11 AM
Great job though.
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Posted by SeaBee on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 2:32 AM
Thanks I-Beam! Yep, I am fully aware of the errors, that's why I said "with all the errors".

I did the weathering after completing the model. I learned that was not the way to do it. Of course, most obviously, I forgot the masking of the wiper tracks. Stupid, but true. Doing it afterwards, I did not weather behind the wheels properly, as well. So the brakes and the wheel wells are rather spotless! Blush [:I] But I did the whole thing as a learning exercise, to do it better, first you must try it for a first time. Taken a lot from the experience and the next one will be done slightly differently.
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  • From: Albert Lea, MN
Posted by yah4sure on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 4:21 PM
Thanks I beam!

Razordws
It's big honkin' 1:350 scale at about 37" long! I've got most
of the hull, hanger deck and hangar bulkheads done. I've been
stalled with Trumpeter issues...They basically put CV-10
Yorktown into the CV-9 Essex box. It shouldn't have hanger
deck cats or a catapult on the starboard bow. Either way I
have to buy either new forward deck section or more 40mm
Bofors. Chah-Ching!
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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 3:20 PM

Richard:  Nice work on the dauntless and that Stuka does look impressive.  I will have to stop in that other GB now and then and check up on it.

Chris:  Can't wait to see those pics.  What kit/scale are you doing?

Dave

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 2:39 PM
Hey Chris, Get yourself a photobucket account.  Thats what you need and they are free.  www.photobucket.com  There are other options too check the help & assistance forum if you want to.  Look forward to seeing some shots of your Essex.
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Posted by yah4sure on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 2:35 PM
Keep the pictures coming Richard(RSaddlemire)!!! I don't
care what GB it's from that Stuka was nice.

To post pictures do you have to have a web site or do you
upload them to FSM.com somewhere. I'll have a couple of
pics of my CV-9 Essex tomorrow.

Chris
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 2:17 PM
Cool, nice rally car SeeBee,  The mud pattern is right on.  I like where they wiped away the mud from the #6, authentic.  Not being critical but the only thing missing is where the winshield wiper wipes.

Good luck hunting Stug61, right now is a great time of year Cool [8D]

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Posted by STUG61 on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 1:16 PM

Hi all!!! Great work all.I'll be starting my L70 monday.....I've still got some woods to stalk over the holliday weekend.Keep up the great work.

 

Yes, I have a compass so I don't get lost.Now where did i put that compass???

Smile! It makes people nervous!! Andy
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 10:57 AM

I want to thank everyone for the nice comments on the Stuka.  I must be brain dead.  I did an SBD Dauntless for this GB and the Stuka is for the WWII GB.  Why I started posting thew photos here I'll never know other that it was a senior monment.  I am in so many GBs that my mind is going in circles but maybe I can get it straight.  Future photos of the Stuka will be in the WWII GB.

Thanks,

Richard

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  • From: Paarl, South Africa
Posted by SeaBee on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 3:44 AM
Sorry, double post. I forgot to say that I saw the results of the first layer of handpainting... Appalling! I decided to follow the old saying "if it's worth doing, it's worth doing good" So I spent a heck of a lot of time trying to mask everything, gave a quick blast of white yesterday eve, another final coat this morning before work and took off the masking... in full suspence! Great was the relieve when I saw neither the white not the blue went to the bottom of the car. Small white on blue issues on the inside due to complex shapes, but very handle-able!

At last the real work can start for the cockpit...

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Posted by SeaBee on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 12:53 AM
I never said cars can't be weathered... Wink [;)] This one (with all the errors - I allready went into all that on another thread) is an effort of mine. This is a stunning Toyota, though!


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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 21, 2005 1:16 PM
 SeaBee wrote:
C'mon Bob, don't despair! It's part of the fun of auto's - there is no place to hide! Evil [}:)]

Hey Bob and SeeBee, I have to show you this one.  This is not my model but it won first place in closed wheel at my clubs ipms contest in october. Who says you can't weather cars.  This one really looks like it put some hard track time in, its filthy!!! hehe Big Smile [:D]


Bob your firebird is looking good.  Your more critical of it cause I can't see any problems Thumbs Up [tup]

Saddlemire - that stuka looks great and just in time for me too.  I was having trouble painting some of the pit dials and stuff in mine and your photos help alot.  Is that the "B"?  Will it be splinter camo or something different?

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Posted by bobbaily on Monday, November 21, 2005 8:53 AM
SeaBee-no flame intended.  For me, planes & armour are easier-at least paint wise.  I can 'hide' imperfections with some light to heavy weathering.  Autos require 'perfection' (or at least something close to that) for my satisfaction.  Not that there aren't others in the community that don't achieve 'perfection' with planes & armour-I'm just not there yet....many miles to go before I rest.....Wink [;)]

Bob

 

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Posted by SeaBee on Monday, November 21, 2005 8:28 AM
Obviously you've got more faith in my abilities than myself! But thanks for the compliment...

And before I get flamed - I was not saying/implying that tanks and planes don't require precision building. I did not get to make it to old gun status just to get hunted down and killed with a walking stick!

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Posted by bobbaily on Monday, November 21, 2005 7:14 AM

 SeaBee wrote:
C'mon Bob, don't despair! It's part of the fun of auto's - there is no place to hide! Evil [}:)]

On my side, heavy masking to do the blue sections of the interior, also started the bodywork assembly and painting. Having gotten past that, the "floor" section needs to be flat white and that will be hand-painted, no way to mask off the blue sections without the risk of seepage... I still dread lifting the tapeafter the weekend's spraying - just hoping I did not ruin the whole of the car's suspension's paintwork with blue mist creeping in somewhere...


 

Good luck on your 'project'  I've seen your work in other GB's-you'll do great.

My first instinct is to 'weather' the Funny Car with pastel chalks to 'hide' the imperfections......tool many planes I guess.....Wink [;)]

Bob

 

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Posted by SeaBee on Monday, November 21, 2005 3:06 AM
C'mon Bob, don't despair! It's part of the fun of auto's - there is no place to hide! Evil [}:)]

On my side, heavy masking to do the blue sections of the interior, also started the bodywork assembly and painting. Having gotten past that, the "floor" section needs to be flat white and that will be hand-painted, no way to mask off the blue sections without the risk of seepage... I still dread lifting the tapeafter the weekend's spraying - just hoping I did not ruin the whole of the car's suspension's paintwork with blue mist creeping in somewhere...


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Posted by bobbaily on Saturday, November 19, 2005 6:09 PM

Richard-great work on the Stuka.  Can't wait to see the finished product

Did some work on the Funny Car today.  Next time I say I'm going to do a auto related build, somebody wack me!  Just can't seem to get it right..."perfect!".  Had some bleed thru on the black on white-nothing that can't be fixed though.  And I'm not pleased with the job I did on filling in the door & hood molding.  The good thing is that the decals cover most of the 'imperfections' and I can live with the rest.....maybe....Plan is to make 'corrections' tomorrow, Future on Tuesday/Wed. & decal on Friday (unless Hobby Lobby has a sale next weekend..)

Hope to make so progress on the chassis & engine by the end of next weekend....

Bob

 

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Posted by stipp on Saturday, November 19, 2005 5:22 PM

Rich, I love the Stuka! yeah, Ive been to damneck too, and I was stationed on the USS San Diego AFS6 in norfolk, and of course I live in VA.

the interior looks very"busy" and has alot of eye candy!

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 19, 2005 8:27 AM

Stipp, I did three tours not far from Little Creek.  Two at Dam Neck and one at NOB Norfilk.

 

Now finally back to the Stuka build.  I have the fuselage closed up, the tail assembly done and the wings attached.  Next is the detail parts.

 

 

 

 

Here is one for a size comparison.  The P-40B is 1/32 scale.

 

 

Richard

 

 

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Posted by stipp on Friday, November 18, 2005 5:14 AM

Man thats a bummer!

Hey Sea Bee, I used to be a sea bee, about 20 yrs ago, ACB 2 Det 106, out of LittleCreek Va.

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Posted by SeaBee on Friday, November 18, 2005 12:20 AM
Oh the memory... the memory... where did I put the memory...?

It goes as such: The bottom of the chassis has a bit of masking to be done, the "top" (inside of the car) has quite a lot. So it's easy, do the bottom, do the top, do the suspension. This is where the memory comes in... or did not even knock to come in and was left outside in the rain. The latter was the case. As I finished the suspension, I turned the chassis over. To see a perfectly unpainted other side! Banged Head [banghead] I was sure it's been done allready and working on the suspension obviously never checked the side that was lying towards the bottom the whole time. So now it's a heated debate between myself and I whether or not to try and mask and then spray or just to go for hand-painting, since at this stage I don't want to risk any leaking...

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Posted by stipp on Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:03 PM
Hey people! I havnt even tried to start on mine yet! I will soon!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:54 AM

Thanks.  Before the most recent change the entire photo was shown when the thread was viewed.  I contacted David Voss and he is helping me get things straightened out.  I was not aware that you could present the entire photo by clicking on it.

Thanks again.

Richard

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Posted by yah4sure on Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:05 AM
I'm not sure what you mean about "cut down". You can
click onto the images and get a larger view.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 17, 2005 8:30 AM

I have two of Trumpeter's Avengers that I might do one of but there are two other Dec GBs that I have to finish.  What has happened to the photos?  They all seem to be cut down.

 

Richard

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  • From: Albert Lea, MN
Posted by yah4sure on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 2:11 PM
Nice job Richard! Less than a month and you're already
finished. Are you ready for an Avenger or something now?

I'm painting the hangar deck on my 1:350 Trumpeter Essex
carrier. I'll send pictures when I paint the deck.
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  • From: Paarl, South Africa
Posted by SeaBee on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:00 AM
Very nice work, guys!

I have finished the Subaru rear suspension. Onwards and inwards from here... Interior next up!

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