WWII Carrier Aircraft Design GB (Starts Now -- Ends November 30, 2006)

hmmm I've been mulling this Fi-156 thing over and may change the F3F over for that one.. that definitely would look interesting... I'll go out tonight and see if I can find pics...

Kremps...real enough, it is true!

Get yourself a program from the Llaneli-Swansea match in Fall of '87...she propped for Swansea. If you can track it down, the Daytona Bike Week Iron Horse Saloon "yearbook" from 96...she won the Japanesse Bike toss...covering an impressive 47' and 9.5".

Due to continued participation in athletics I have some how amazingly enough stayed limber to the point of being able to dodge her clutches...sad to say some of our other members have not been so lucky...

In regards to Kremps remember this...just cause you have never seen a million dollars or a baby pidgeon does not mean that they do not exist! The same applies to her...

Kremps is very real. Just ask Jules he still has the bruises to prove it, and we all bear the mental scars, especially poor Tom.

Karl

QUOTE: Originally posted by wooverstone8 QUOTE: Ohhhhh you mean "Kremps" right Sorry for dumb question but what is this "Kremps" stuff? Is Kremp a women or something? I don't understand, I'm lost....

Wooverstone8,

Probably Tom or Jules or one of the other 'usual suspects' can better define Kremps, but bottom line is that she is an imaginary character (I hope), one that represents the nurse from the movie "One Flew Over the Coo-Coo's Nest, and/or a rather large Soviet nurse with an attitude. The exploits of Kremps are left to the imagination of the writer (and well worth the price of admission). I must admit, there are some very 'creative' individuals in the group that is also know as 'The Usual Suspects'. 'The Usual Suspects' is (or are-didn't pay any attention in English class in my younger days) a group of individuals that have gathered in previous group builds and have gotten to know each other quite well. Many good modeling tips/helpful historic facts have been exchanged within the group.Check out the North Africia GB or the Battle of Britian GB and you'll see.

¡¡Thanks guys for the warm welcome!! and thanks woove, for letting me in

Well yeah woove, it really sucks, not having hobby shops here, but i'm lukcy though, being able now, to count on that friend, so i can get some models I'm even more lucky, having a friend like Ross Allen from Ottawa-Canada that maybe some of you know, that's sending me some models as a gift, He's responsible, that i have my ARII Hellcat and now, a Vampire and a P-40E, are on it's way to Cuba This good friend, have also sent me some FSM mags a great book and some modeling tools, for what i'm very thankful to him

Listen jsharrison, it sure woudl be cool if you come here and open a hobby shop, for that reason, you could even count on me as a crew member, to help you out, in your bombing raids against Toms roof
I was trying to contat a model company that could be interested in doing bussines here and the models could be sold as toys in department stores and i know lots of people would buy them, but till now, i haven't contacted anyone that could be interested

This morning i've spoken with the friend of mine that travels alot and he told me i can even make a list of several model building companies, that build the model i want, so he could have choises at the moment of buying it for me
So now that i definetly decided that i'll scramble with the Dauntless ¿can you give me some advices about model companies that have this plane in 1/48 and with atractive (rather cheap) prices?

Best Regards & Happy Modeling

Raudel

QUOTE: Ohhhhh you mean "Kremps" right

Sorry for dumb question but what is this "Kremps" stuff? Is Kremp a women or something? I don't understand, I'm lost....

QUOTE: Cool! hmm I have a Fieseler Storch too... wonder if they left in Luftwaffe colors or changed it to the disruptive camo scheme? This is why I like the group builds.. you can always pick up something from them.

Standard Luftwaffe camo with RAF roundels and fin flashes added.

Not sure where you'd find a picture though.

Karl

Cool! hmm I have a Fieseler Storch too... wonder if they left in Luftwaffe colors or changed it to the disruptive camo scheme? This is why I like the group builds.. you can always pick up something from them.

Kevin - that must have been great talking to him.. same thing happened when my great uncle died.. his wife threw everything of his out. He flew USAAC bombers in the Pacific. He's been gone awhile now so most of the people who remember his stories can't get them straight. They have him flying three different types of bombers during the war... I did pick up that he thought Guam was the worst fighting he saw. And only 2 types of AAC bombers were mentioned in the order of battle for the island. One of them interestingly enough went from the B-24 to the B-29 then on to the B-36 after the war... I wish he would have lived a little bit longer till I was born and old enough to talk to him. thats would have been great!

QUOTE: Originally posted by KJ200 Ahhhhhh........the possibilities are endless! Karl

Yes the possibilities are endless. Most of the light bombers that the USAAF had were capable of being operated off of an aircraft carrier. Very early in the planning stages of the Doolittle raid the plan was to use the B-23 Dragon for the attack, but the availability of sufficient airframes kept this from happening. I know a fella that was on the USS Lexington (now deceased, unfortunately) who used to talk about some of the experiments that were conducted by the Navy trying to improve their ability to deliver bombs on target. Some of the US aircraft that have made at least one flight off of a carrier include the A-20, PV-1/2, B-25H, B-18 and others that I can't recall right now. My friend mustered out in 1967 and was involved in carrier aviation since 1938. He was there for the P-3 and C-130 experiments in the 60s. He is truly missed. The sad part is that when he died his grandson threw out all of his photo albums and cruise books.

Tom, Hope you didn't suffer a concussion. Yes I like the fringe side of aviation and I bet I could dig something up for ya if your up to the challenge. Some of the AC I've found would challenge even Swanny's skills.

Again to the GB Raudel!

Did I here someone say FRINGE?

Tom How's this for Fringe, Fiesler Storch.......

.....I kid you not. Capt Eric Brown RN operated one from an RN carrier at the end of the war as his personal hack. Apparently it would have made an excellent carrier aircraft due to it's STOL characteristics.

Or, if you are looking for Fringe for the next NAGB, how about this;

http://www.fleetairarmarchive.net/Aircraft/Buffalo.htm

Ahhhhhh........the possibilities are endless!

Karl

QUOTE: Originally posted by roadkill_275 QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900 ::rubbing head:: Ow!!! what was that for??? Mebbe you desrved it?? We all saw you eyeballing she who is not to be named

Ohhhhh you mean "Kremps" right

to the GB Raudel It's a real shame that you don't have a hobby shop in Havanna, that must make it that much harder to enjoy your hobby.....
Hmmm maybe i should imigrate to Cuba and open one up, that way i'll be almost close enough to throw rocks on Toms roof, after a little boat ride of course

Raudel Sánchez Corella to the Group Build!

It must really stink not having a Hobby shop in your country. Hopefully your friend will find you the right model kit for you. It must be hard not being able to pick it your-self.

QUOTE: ¡¡¡Great idea wooverstone8!!! carrier aircraft it's my favorite subject, so it'll be a lot of fun join you all, besides it'll also be a great chance to learn more about this subject

You’ll learn a lot from this Group Build with some of the expert members we have here. I’m not one of them, but I do have some knowledge about this subject though.

Hey guys

I'm Raudel Sánchez Corella from Havanna Cuba & i'm 35 Y/O
I'm in ¿am i?
¡¡¡Great idea wooverstone8!!! carrier aircraft it's my favorite subject, so it'll be a lot of fun join you all, besides it'll also be a great chance to learn more about this subject
Here we don't have hobby shops , so i have to ask a friend of mine that travels to Paris-France kinda often (2 times per year) to buy a model for me So i'll give him the cash so he could buy something for me It's great that i have till March thouhg
This guy is not an aeromodeler so i'll have to build the model, right as it comes in the box, besides, will not be able to use aftermarket parts and decals, cause will not have enough time to wait till he travels again
If the model comes with decals for a land base plane ¿can i use paint for the markings and serials?
I think i'll scramble eather with an SBD or a Corsair in 1/48 being the first my favorite, but have to wait to see what this guy will buy for me
I have an ARII Hellcat in 1/48, but i've started it alreay Shame

So ¿can i join you guys?

Best Regards & Happy Modeling

Raudel

arki - something has to keep ya interested in it... otherwise it's just work....

All - I'm debating whether to dig up something a little more fringe for this... I like that little F3F but I am already doing one for another GB... doing another seems kinda cheating.. I'll have to look around and see what else I can find... I can't let Kevin outdo me on Fringe! Maybe I'll dig up a reference of a Lancaster being flown off the Ark Royal or something..

Ah, the comedy....

That's what I keep coming back for

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900 ::rubbing head:: Ow!!! what was that for???

Mebbe you desrved it?? We all saw you eyeballing she who is not to be named

::rubbing head:: Ow!!! what was that for???

Bump

Jeeves to the Group Build!

Well-- I can't be left out of this one, can I? Not sure what I'll build yet-- I have lenty of Avengers and Dauntlesses on the pile-- but I will decide when it comes closer...

glad to be a part of it

fighterguru to the Group Build!

Id like to get in on this Id like to do a TBM Avenger Acurate minatures.

Thanks guys for answering my combat question,but I have one more though:
Do you think it would have VERY light Gun stains?Maybe when they tested them or something?

Pete, to the Group build!

Hello fellas, Haven't been hanging around here much lately, but I'd liketo get in on this build if I could, with the Accurate Miniatures TBM Avenger (the George Bush version). Thanks, Pete

QUOTE: Originally posted by jboutin Jules, I still want to do the Allied Aces GB but I was thinking of announcing it closer to the end of the Candian GB, maybe in December. Yes, it would be both WW1 and WW2.

Cool Jay sign me up with the Eduard Sopwith triplane and maybe a Roden SE5A...

QUOTE: Originally posted by roadkill_275 Thanks to Tom () I may have enough info to go on. Although I still have some doubts about the attachment point.

Kevin - I dunno to me it looks feasible...

actually what is wierd (maybe not so wierd) is the area where the drop hook should be at can't be found... looking at the pic, *TO ME* it looks like the pic has been altered, maybe it was a publicity shot that had to go through the censors... but to me the area right under the tail doesn't match the surrounding areas... maybe it really was like in the painting? The reports on it I saw all said it was mounted behind the tailwheel.. I'll keep looking though to see if I can dig up something better...

A naval p-51 is a very interesting subject. I think I'll stick to mainstream subjects though.

Jules, I still want to do the Allied Aces GB but I was thinking of announcing it closer to the end of the Candian GB, maybe in December. Yes, it would be both WW1 and WW2.

QUOTE: Originally posted by tho9900 Jules - it is kind of interesting reading about it.. it made one flight and one only... when the Navy learned the critical speed between stall out and a snap spin caused from accelration was only 5mph different they sealed it as non-carrier worthy... not to mention all the mods such as beefier gear etc... also the length was a problem as they took up too much space on deck so wouldn't be able to carry many. Final judgement came when we had isnlands close enough to Japan to provide airfields for P-51's... the whole idea behind it was to provide advance placement for fighters to escort in the B-29's with...

Excellent fined Tom. This is one of the reasons why I started this GB, to learn more about a subject that interest me, and others.