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Sano, I'll update my site with a few more pics of the 99 version.

Heads up regarding the engine pics. Although both pics above seem to be from the 2006 bike, the site where you downloaded those images show the engine development from 2002 to 2006.

/Joel

So after hours of research, comparisson, reading entire treads on the topic, etc....I think the best option for my needs and budget is the Iwata Revolution CR and the Iwata Studio Sprint Jet compressor.

This forum is a gold mine of resources and knowledge! I found so much info on the airbrush topic it's ridiculous! I'm almost an expert in the matter and I don't even have an airbrush...I even held a conversation with an airbrush expert/salesman and I was fine.... God bless the internet!

Anyway, while I wait for the goodies to arrive I need to finish my work area....

I'll keep you posted,

Thanks a million!

racer155

Sano thanks, the pics are great (already printed out and stuck on the cupboard above my work bench!). I am not one of those "rivet counters" who has to have every bolt and nut detail correct for a particular year, as long as the bikes looks sort of right but more importantly as long as I am happy all is good. I hope I can do justice to the full bike pic you posted as this will be the one I am doing, but will do the Camel branding.

Racer good on you Bro, making the decision is half the battle won. Now, once the bits arrive I would suggest a lot of practice before you attempt your first kit to avoid frustration creeping in. It takes a while to get used to pressure settings, dilution of paint to thinners, spraying distance from the model, spray volume etc etc Any advice you need just shout. I played around for ages when I got my first one just to get the basics right. There are some good general resources on the subject on the net as well. I assume you will have some sort of extraction device or well ventilated room, when you spray and especially when spraying thinners etc through the brush to clean it you generate a lot of toxic fumes. Somewhere in this build I have shared my home made extraction fan which works well for me.

 Must run to watch Holland Moto GP, always takes me by surprise by being on a Saturday!

Hmm, thought I had tons of pics of the 99 nsr, must check my back ups. Uploaded those I found on the harddrive for you Sano. At least there where some.

Joel

Joel. I had a look around your site again after a while, you are making nice progress on the YZR builds (the kawa seems to have takken a back seat!). I like your exhaust method, will have to give it a try myself at some stage. Will you add some heat staining or leave them as they are now? Maybe just a bit of x19 smoke to weather them off a bit.

I like the brake discs, what paint did you use. You have replicated the speckled carbon look very well. I always feel the X10 tamiya recommends looks a bit glossy and artificial.

thanks a million joel! thoose kanemoto engine & repsol rear muffler pics really gave me the picture on how they supposed to looked like

appreciate ur time and effort to update thoose pics (and u even put my name so i won't missed it! that's sweet )

about the race in assen, stoner seems to be back on track. the other teams better be really careful now too bad for kawasaki & suzuki who both loses their 1st rider though i wonder who would race in hokins place in sachsenring...

Sano: No sweat, my friend. Glad to be at service.

Bushpig; Thanks for coming back, I know that the site has been slow for the last year but I'll do better. The exhausts will definately be weathered further. Most likely with the Tamiya weathering box.

I did the brake discs with the recommended paints but sprayed a bit further away than ususal giving a slight more texture.

/Joel

Hi guys.

Started to wire the frame and different electronical boxes with fishing line in different diameters. They will be painted in appropriate colors.

For the cooling hoses I tried to put some High def CF on the hoses to give them a bit more texture. Think it turned out very well. I did some simple clamps by glueing a wire in a hole on the back and wrap it twice around the piece. Looks ok at least, perhaps a bit thick. I'll try a different diameter on the others.

/Joel

Joel,

 that's so cool! I really like the CF for the hoses....it looks amazing!

Me, I just started to convert my closet into my work area....59"x24" desk top, more than plenty to build bikes. I left the standard shelf in it so I can have my stock pile, reference books and stuff. A 180 degree turn and I'm on line and have a massive 8ftx3ft desk I built too....next, the paint booth by the window and my "shop" will be ready!

The compressor option got better, the Iwata is a great choice but I found the airbrush-depot TC20T (comp&tank) for $149.99. I read the comments here and they are good and read the Fine Scale Mag review of the Polar Bear set, which is exactly the same as the TC20T, and the comments are excellent.

I think I have a photobucket account so soon I'll upload stuff.

racer155

Thanks. Fishing line is great. Available in many dimensions, just cut off the part pin, drill a hole and fix it with super glue. Back side is that the larger dimensions (e.g .4-.6 mm) don't bend to well att the fixing point.

Regarding cf on the hoses I saw a ref pic of a 99 yzr with a lot more structure than the ones I've seen before, the Hi Def fibre was perfect for the purpose.

/J

Bushpig wrote:

the kawa seems to have takken a back seat!.

Well, there isn't much work left on it actually, so I might pull it out again soon.

Joel

Well blow mee  down  have finally remebered my password ,and solved SOME oof my commputer problems .

Not been around for a weeeeeeeeeee while with a combination of work ,com and not having anywhere to build

But have still been following you guys and the builds,there has been some pretty dandy handi work.

While of line I have stocked up on some kits - one that took some wheelin and dealin is a Protar

1/9 500 BMW sidecar a very old model , and another protar 1/9 yamaha YZR500 1988 metal kit with the baccy decals cool.

Hopefully I can find some time to make a portable workbench so that I can continue.

PS Joel congrats on your new addition to the family

Hey Shane nice to see you back.

Has anyone bought and built one of these super detail chainsets?

http://www.hiroboy.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2360

They look superb but I am sure have been done by real experts in the pics, might prove a little frustrating in the wrong hands (such as mine where I have 10 thumbs for fingers!) and at $40 is a hell of a price to pay for a detail that most people probably would not notice.

Well, you all might know about this but I found out about it yesterday. I read somewhere you can dilute tamiya acrylics with isopropyl alcohol so I thought I'd try something.

The brake calipers of my first M1 came out horrendous and I didn't know what to do...I was going to buy a new kit just for to replace them but yesterday I decided to put them in a mix bottle with alcohol and they paint came off like nothing! Now I can try again.

I read about the 409 deal and all that but I had the alcohol at hand so....

I also used it to clean an exhaust pipe that came out to rough....cleaned it like windex cleans finger prints off of glass.

racer155 

Hey guys,

Haven't been very active - either in the build or the forums! But the #56 Kawa is done. Stock box, plus a couple of CF decals.

Typical of newer Tamiyas, the thing practically assembled itself. Only thing worth noting was the decal glue that seems to take a long time in very hot water to soften/dissolve, so you can't slide it off very easily. But that was the same on the Stoner LCR Honda decals as well...

Love the colour, really stands out from the rest on the shelf! Unfortunately, the camera's battery went flat after one pic! Will post some pics later.

The only bike I have left is the 04 M1, but with Top Studio detail set. So will take a bit of a break from bikes untill I've finished my DBR9 and then start on that slightly intimidating-looking bit of detail set. Unless they bring out a new bike (800!!!!) before then...

It's been a while since a MOto GP race excited my senses but today's race was amazing!

It's a shame Stoner got spanked fair and square and had to complaint about Rossi's passes, obviously he thought he'd always win by a mile. Also, what a shame to the australian racing heritage....he's behaving like a baby...He could learn a bit from Bayliss on how to handle tough races.

Anyway, my M1 is almost done, I'm making too many mistakes at the end of this build so I'm just going to finish it the best I can and call it a day....after all it's my first one.

 I'll post some pics tomorrow.

racer155

hi,i'm new to this bit of the forum...............

to start with the laguna race was great....but bad news for lorenzo,what a highside

my question,does anyone make a wayne rainey 91/92/93 yzr 500 , i've been looking for a while but havn't seen one.

cheers paul

Racer, funny how these little piles of plastic can give so much pleasure yet cause so much frustration! I also am reaching the end of my M1 Camel build and have actually packed everything away for a few days, the odd mistakes creeping in and I know from experience that is the time to just take a break. I will get back to the bench in a few days. I suffer a lot from having a vision of the greatest model ever built when I start and as I progress and the little errors (which if we are honest most people dont ever notice) creep in growing to dislike the build more and more. Oh well as I think I have said before has the perfect model ever been assembled!

Paul welcome. I had a quick look at my usual sites for after market decals (eg Hiroboy, Mediamix) and did not find a Rainey set. Amazing isnt it how some classics just dont seem to be covered yet the most obscure do. I think I have said before in this build I could not believe that a Carl Fogerty Ducati 888 set does not exist, this is an essential for anyone who wants to complete his career yet hasnt been done. Oh well one day maybe I will take the plunge and get into custom decal making.

 Seabee. I think the cold Cape weather may have something to do with the stubborn decals, I had one crack up on me the other day then realised my water must have been about 10 degrees! Like you I cant wait for the 800cc models to appear but they seem very far off at the moment. Come back soon!

Hey BushPig, good theory, but I decalled it quite a while ago! But bugger, it was cold and wet! Esp cold when I went for a bike ride (pedalpower!) on the Sunday after the snow fell - and set off before the sun rose. Nearly froze my butt off dressed as warm as I could on a bike - wind chill factor for dummies! Hey, but after two weeks of not being able to ride... I'll do it again!

And as you can see, I'm never far away!

Gents,

 It's been about forever since I've posted in this GB, but after some small distractions (helo builds, moving from TX to Va, and a new son!), I decided to dig out the Fortuna M1 I had about 1/3 done and see where I was.  Finally sprayed Testors MM chrome over the Guards Red with the airbrush and it turned out pretty OK.  Not without overspray, but not bad.  Also, I'm using Lion Roar PE, or at least trying to since my photo etch experience is not all that great.  Already tossed the PE chain since I couldn't get it right.  Anyhow, here's some pics just to show how things are going.  The engine's just fitted together, I haven't done any heat-staining of the pipes or anything, and the fairings still need a lot of clean-up, but I feel good at least getting this project moving again.  More to follow.

I was thinking of ways to customize my M1 a little more and it hit me! I'll make a more realistic seat. I've seen many ways of doing it, wraped, painted and then textured, etc. but today I remembered I had this piece of neoprene-like material in the garage. I bought it at Michael's, my local arts and crafts store, it comes in sheets and people use them to make cut outs and decorate....

I laid the plastic seat on it, cut out a piece almost the size and shape of the seat and then I sanded it to appropriate shape...including thickness (originally was 2-2.5mm) Bam! looks like the original, more because of the material than the shape.

The plastic seat has a distinctive shape on the sides towards the back but it's no big deal. This method works with all GP bikes since all their seats are made of neoprene-like material.

Enjoy!

Joel I have taken your fishing line idea a step further and used it to create the cable ties which you were discussing earlier in this build. I used some fishing line to make the sensor cables on the wheel mounts (10kg breaking strain for those that want to know). On the real bike these seem to be cable tied to the main brake lines. I fixed them in place with a little masking tape

I then took some finer fishing line (2kg breaking strain) and tied the 2 together using a normal reef knot (cut the line long so you have 2 good length ends to work with.) I then placed a little super glue onto the knot. Trimmed it down as close to the knot as I could and touched it up with some X18 satin black

Once dry I removed the tape and think the overall effect is quite realistic.

Bushpig,

 I tried to get good pix but I'm on crutches and my mobility is limited. I posted the link to my photobucket and there you can see the seat. It took a bit of sanding and fine cutting. Once I had the shape I beveled the edges with a sanding stick and then softened them with fine sandpaper. I think with more practice or done by someone with more experience seats made out of this material can be near perfect.

This is my first build in 20 some years, it went smooth at first but the lack of tools and proper space led to mistakes that kept it from being much better.

No regrets though, I learned a lot and it will be applied on my next build.

I'd like to thank everyone here for their input and advice as well as posting their fine machines so people like me could learn from them. 

 If you look at it....thanks for doing so!

http://s135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/motogponly/

racer155

Bushpig

the cable tie solution is great!....now how do you achive such perfect "brembo" lettering?

I salvaged mine but they look like crap still....I tried different techniques and nada!

I think I'm going to buy the decal sheet for this logo.....

racer155