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  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: Kalmar, Sweden
Posted by joelrydh on Saturday, July 26, 2008 8:34 AM

Bushpig: That looks so good, will have to try that!

Yammafreak: Welcome back, you're up to a great start on a fantastic livery bike!

Racer155: Seat is looking a+, great idea. Have a look at my site for the brembo lettering technique, with a baby on the arm it's hard to type long explanations.

http://www.onetwelvth.com/tips/allmant/mc/index.htm

As for myself I'm doing quite some progress. Fiddling around with artistic oils for weathering right now. Looks promising.

Keep up the good work!

Joel

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    July 2006
  • From: South Africa
Posted by Bushpig on Saturday, July 26, 2008 3:57 PM
Racer, Joels method he explains on his site is a good one. I take the easy route though and use the Dexter decals, simple as that! The newer Tamiya kits have decals included as well (I used the Laguna Seca M1 kit for this build and they were on the decal sheet)
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Posted by racer155 on Saturday, July 26, 2008 8:45 PM

JOel,

 thanks for checking out my pix! they're not great but they show the product.

I tried your technique but I just didn't do it right. I'm finishing a 2004 Ducati and I'll try it again.

BUshpig,

 the decals are my next option, the worst parts in my M1 are the front calipers.

I noticed the lettering on the Ducati's calipers is deeper than on the M1's so I'll try painting them again.

I'll keep you posted.

 

racer155 

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    June 2006
Display cases...
Posted by racer155 on Saturday, July 26, 2008 8:57 PM

I have gone through hundreds of pages here and on-line about the topic but nothing seems to catch my eye.

Single cases are great but there's a fortune to be invested if I go that route and they take a lot of room (which I don't have)....but I like them the most.

I thought of making a wooden cabinet and hang it on the wall but it'd have to be really thin...I though maybe 3 to 4 inches and display the bikes on their better side but that takes a lot away from the finished model. On the other hand, I don't want to build a monster case so I can look at the bikes from all angles.

HOw do you guys do it? do you have pics of your motorcycle displays?

racer155

 

  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: Kalmar, Sweden
Posted by joelrydh on Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:23 PM

I use a wall mounted cd/dvd shelf with sliding glass doors from IKEA. It has room for 15 bikes if put in a 45 degree angle. Besides that I have had display cases made at the local glazier. To those I made wooden bases.

A tip when doing the Brembo (or other lettering) is to use the finest brush you can find, use well dilluted paint and just dip the very tip of the brush. Then put the tip in one end of the letter and see the paint flow through the recessed area. This way you'll get very little overflow. If any, sand on top of the piece VERY gently with abrasive paper and then dry brush with the golden color of the caliper. AND, if you get golden paint into the lettering, just repeat the steps above.

/Joel

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    July 2006
  • From: South Africa
Rossi Yamaha M1 2006
Posted by Bushpig on Sunday, August 17, 2008 12:15 PM

I am nearing the end of this build so thought I would show a few progress pics before I close the whole lot up with the fairings. So far so good, I have used the Studio 27 detail set and tried to use as much as possible to ensure I get best value out of the set. I have not added too much other detail, just a few cables using the fishing line method which works a treat!

 

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  • From: Kalmar, Sweden
Posted by joelrydh on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:52 PM

Ahh, looks great Bushpig. Is that Alclad Chrome on the engine parts?

Front fender looks very nice, looking forward to see the rest of the cowlings

/Joel

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  • From: South Africa
Posted by Bushpig on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:04 PM
Thanks Joel. Yes the engine block is done with Alclad Chrome, I did this after reviewing the engine block pics. It looks a lot better than the usual x11 or xf16 chrome / flat chrome. I have a few of those annoying last details to do that seem to take forever before finishing but should be able to show finished pics in the next few days
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    March 2008
  • From: london-uk
Posted by ludwig113 on Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:00 PM

having been up close with many of the real bikes over the years i have to say you have an excellent build there.

paul

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    November 2005
  • From: Kalmar, Sweden
MFH Yoshimura Suzuki GSX-R1000
Posted by joelrydh on Saturday, August 30, 2008 12:39 PM

Well, today the subject kit landed in my mail box. Cost 10 times the regular Tamiya kit but what a pleassure it was to open the Model Factory Hiro box and unveil the content. Hope to get you some pictures cause this kit is SO nice.

/Joel

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    July 2006
  • From: South Africa
Posted by Bushpig on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 12:48 PM

Well chaps I managed to screw up at the last hurdle. I had not reckoned that the 2005 and 2006 main cowls were so different in shape (at the airvent) and so the decals that came in the set did not fit. I tired a few options to get a decent result, all of which failed. So I have a choice to order a replacement set and try again or buy a 2006 transkit as well and make sure it works properly. Oh Well, will decide on that later. In the meantime I packed the build away and will take a break for a bit. I tend to get a bit demoralised when this happens and have found it's best to wait till the bug bites again.

next project, who knows!

Oh and joel lets some pics, I am interested in the Suzi kit.

any news yet on a Tamiya 800cc anyone?

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  • From: South Africa
Posted by Bushpig on Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:12 AM

Well chaps I have completed the Rossi Camel M1. As I said I had some trouble with the side cowls, a bit of decal frosting, etc etc. I think eventually I will re-do them but for now the build is complete and will have to do.

Will keep you posted on any progress with my next build, not sure what at this stage. So is anyone else out there actually doing any building at the moment, seems pretty dead!

  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: Kalmar, Sweden
Posted by joelrydh on Friday, September 26, 2008 2:15 AM

Oh, that seems to be quite a bit of silvering on the side cowls. Sad on an otherwise nice and well performed build.... What decals did you use for it?

/Joel

  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: Kalmar, Sweden
MFH Yoshimura Suzuki GSX-R 1000
Posted by joelrydh on Friday, September 26, 2008 2:16 AM

I promised you some pics and for you that haven't seen the review on AF or on my web here it is;

This is a small review of the Model Factory Hiro full detail kit of the 2008 Suzuka 8-hours Yoshimura Suzuki GSX-R 1000.

Kit price is close to 300 USD and the gross weight of the kit box is allmost 2 pounds(!).

Kit is full detail and it features most media accessable in the model arena ranging from white metal and turned metal parts to crisp resin and rubber. Through-out the kit there is a high level of detail in the parts.

Starting with the outer box it's a pleassure to view. Glossy black cover over the MFH red box.

Side label shows what to expect from the inside.

Opening the box reveals small zip-lock bags with white metal parts and three minor boxes, one in plastic glass and to in regular plastic. The plastic glass one contains the resin parts together with screws and rivets.

Parts are made out of white resin and are very subtle and crisp. Not the Studio 27 standard with thick resin parts weighing almost the same as the metal parts... You get the top cowl, two side cowls, lower cowl, tank and seat cowl with undertray.

Parts have some minor flash and there is some filling to do but boy are these parts molded with love! All parts are to be put in place using metal rivets, not the BIG Tamiya screws that we have gotten used to, great!

So, to some of the rather dull stuff, there are A LOT of white metal parts in this box. As there usually is with these sort of kits from Japan. On the good side there is the fact that we have some really nice molded metal parts in here and a lot of details molded in them. Here below are, first, the metal parts for the engine and after that three pics of the frame, larger and smaller metal parts

No full detail kit without some photo etch parts. If you don't count the chain, wich is put together using p/e links on a plastic base, kit contains two p/e sheets. Looks pretty promising to me.

Wheels are made out of a set of turned metal rims and two rubber tyres wich are well up to Tamiya standard.

Decals looks very crisp, you get the larger sheet with all the advertising and cf, one smaller sheet with numbers and yet another with carbon kevlar pattern.

Instructions comes in a set of papers with seems to cover every step, what could be better are the color coding for the individual parts.

So, up to now I must say I've been pretty damn impressed by the detail standard of the kit but WHY do they pack the following amount of electronical connectors in a 300USD full detail kit without ANY guidance to where to attach them? Just a reference on the last page of the instructions that say "use your references"... Beats me... Why not include a small booklet with references.


So it's time to sum the pros and cons from looking through the box;

+ NICE over all impression
+ Lots of details accomplished by the full range of modeling media
+ Crisp resin moldings

- White metal....
- Instructions could be more in depth. No reference pictures.
- Perhaps the price is a bit steap

Hope the review has been to any use for you glancing at the kit. Any questions will be answered gladly.

best regards
Joel

  • Member since
    July 2006
  • From: South Africa
Posted by Bushpig on Friday, September 26, 2008 2:25 PM

Thanks Joel. I used the MSM creation set (MSMD076) and I think am justifiably a little disappointed. But as I say it's not the end of the world, I at least can redo the side cowls at another time or at least have a good donor bike for any of the other 2006 schemes!

Nice review you have done here, $300 is huge to pay for a kit but you certainly seem to get quality for money.

I can't believe it is still so quiet from Tamiya regarding a release of an 800cc kit!

  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: Kalmar, Sweden
Posted by joelrydh on Saturday, September 27, 2008 3:20 AM

 Bushpig wrote:
Nice review you have done here, $300 is huge to pay for a kit but you certainly seem to get quality for money.

Although I don't like white metal at all I must say that they have done a great job with those parts, clean and detailed. Resin is SO crisp. But for 300 usd I'm a tad dissapointed. We'll see if that change when I start it.

 Bushpig wrote:
I can't believe it is still so quiet from Tamiya regarding a release of an 800cc kit!

I agree, and what is this release of a different livery ZX-14? Weird...

/Joel

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    July 2006
  • From: South Africa
Posted by Bushpig on Sunday, October 5, 2008 3:57 AM

My latest build has come together really fast. I thought I would just do a straight out the box NSR500 but using the Studio 27 decals to make the Freddie Spencer Rothmans version. I have finished the construction part, herewith pics. I have done the spray work on the fairings and now just have the decal work to do, hopefully they dont give me any issues. This has actually turned out to be quite a nice little kit. A little dated when compared to the latest offerings from Tamiya but still great quality. The only thing I again noticed is they did not include the positioning of the throttle cables in the instructions, very strange.

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  • From: Kalmar, Sweden
Posted by joelrydh on Thursday, October 16, 2008 4:11 AM

I love what you have done to the exhaust system. Great work.

Always nice to take a look at these older bikes as you don't see them being built too often. Interesting looking rear mud guard, don't you think?!

/Joel

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    March 2004
  • From: Paarl, South Africa
Posted by SeaBee on Saturday, October 25, 2008 11:27 PM

Some excellent work, gents! Thumbs Up [tup]

And Joel, that kit really looks great. Hope you enjoy it! In fact, I'm sure you will. I have some of their 20th F1's and those are awesome - they're really setting the benchmark.

Is it just me missing the news or are there still no news regarding new kits? Not talking street bikes here, of course... Somewhat upsetting - the last one I am aware of came out quite a while ago.

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    July 2006
  • From: South Africa
Posted by Bushpig on Monday, October 27, 2008 10:46 AM

SeaBea nice to see you still lurking around.

I was beginning to debate the merit of keeping this build going, it really had some good energy for a while but just seems to have died. Maybe having these never ending things arent such a good idea afterall. 

What is the view of those still bothering to have a look, should we close it down.

Maybe someone else can get a similar thing going under a different name but add more urgency, I am easy either way as long as I can pop out completed models I am happy. I have just been so happy to be able to learn as well as share experience around the world.

  • Member since
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  • From: Kalmar, Sweden
Posted by joelrydh on Wednesday, October 29, 2008 4:30 AM

Let it live! I think it comes and goes but a long life MotoGP thread is great as new viewers have a lot of pages to go through and a treasure box to find inspiration. If there is other GB ideas these could be held a lot more narrow to gather an interesting collection on a specific theme. I too will keep posting my general MotoGP builds in this thread. I've just had a slow period to nurse Elvira (wich is the name of my latest gem...:-) ) but just picked out the Marlboro bikes again yesterday.

So hang in there and I think we can kick some life in this thread

/Joel

  • Member since
    February 2004
  • From: Quantico, VA
Posted by Yamafreak72 on Tuesday, November 4, 2008 12:51 PM

I'm for keeping it going.  What else is going to give us our Moto-fix now that the season's done?

Status: Nastro Azzurro NSR 500- finis!
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  • From: South Africa
Posted by Bushpig on Thursday, November 6, 2008 5:57 AM

I am happy with this vote, I will keep on building and sharing progress as I go and lets see some other builds to get the interest going again.

I am just finishing a trip to Hong Kong and had to make some time to visit the model shops in Mong Kok, well worth it if anyone ever gets out this way. Sadly the 2 main guys who stock Studio27 products were away whilst I was here Grumpy [|(] Anyway thats the way it goes I suppose.

So no more Moto GP for a while, have to stick close to my 1:12 paddock to ensure I dont get the shakes!

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  • From: Kalmar, Sweden
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Posted by joelrydh on Thursday, November 6, 2008 3:16 PM

Don't know if this is accepted along here, perhaps not, but I'm letting off some of the decals sheet that I have on my shelf. Some new and some rare, feel free to have a look at http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/joelrydh or stab me if you want this comercial removed ;-)

/Joel

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    December 2007
  • From: UK
Back to building....
Posted by chrisga on Monday, December 8, 2008 7:49 AM

Hi everyone,

Its been a while since I posted anything in here, which is probably because its been a while since I have done any modelling. Anyway, just thought I would let you know that I started my first multiple build last night, i.e. I am going to try and do two models at the same time. They are both based on Tamiya's Konica Minolta RC211V, one will be out of the box but the other one will be done in a 2006 Marco Melandri Fortuna Paintscheme which I like very much. Lets hope they come out ok. I'll post pics up as and when but as yet there is nothing to show....


Chris

  • Member since
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  • From: Kalmar, Sweden
Posted by joelrydh on Tuesday, December 9, 2008 5:15 AM

Great news Chris! I too love the later Fortuna liveries and will follow your build with great interest!

/Joel

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    July 2006
  • From: South Africa
Posted by Bushpig on Wednesday, December 10, 2008 1:53 PM

welcome back Chris. I have found building more than one kit at a time a bit daunting, which is why I admire Joel doing the 3 yammies at once! there just never seems to be an end to what has to be done, the bonus though is once you are finsihed you have that many more additons to your collection.

I am on a bit of a backburner at the moment, damn work gets in the way of living some times! I have almost nothing left to do on the Rothmans bike and then just for fun have done a Rally car (Toyota Corrolla) in Valentino Rossi livery. It's coming together nicely and I will share pics once I am complete

happy modelling and have great holidays those of you who will take a break over the next few weeks

  • Member since
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  • From: Kalmar, Sweden
Posted by joelrydh on Saturday, December 13, 2008 1:16 PM

Ok, time for some updates. I'm getting somewhere, atleast on one of the subjects....the 99 version.

I've described earlier that I try to drill out recessed areas, here are two rear calipers. Blurry but you get the picture.

Started working on the forks. The 99 version uses the older caliper mount style but the 00 version uses the newer two point mounted caliper. I had to steal the whole fork set-up from a ´01 yzr kit to get it right.

Here are the forks together with the discs.

Left side of the naked bike. Still some touch ups to do so bare with me...

Right side

Top Studio sets are beautiful but seem fiddly for my fat fingers. I tried my own version of wiring instead.

Close up of the right side view.

Meter area.

Still a long way to go. Few more details to add on this one and then go copy the work on the other three sets... At least I can use this kit as a test dummy... did my fair share of mistakes on it so far, biggest issue is a large dot of super glue on the left side of the frame. Bugger.

See you guys and keep up all of your great work!!
/Joel

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    July 2006
  • From: South Africa
Posted by Bushpig on Sunday, December 14, 2008 2:41 AM

WOW, looking gooood Joel! Really nice to see some work in progress on this build again. I love the way your wiring is coming together. The rear swingarm looks different to what I remember on the Biaggi bike I did a while ago, is it the kit standard part?

As for the superglue dot, I am a master at having to fix screw up's, my fat fingers just also let me down. A bit of patience, very fine waterpaper and a localised respray should take care of it nicely.

When these four beauties are finished it is going to make an awesome display.

  • Member since
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  • From: Kalmar, Sweden
Posted by joelrydh on Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:32 AM

Hi Bushpig and thanks for your comments. The swing is standard kit part. I had to go check if I mixed up the swing arms between the 99/00 bikes and the two from the 01 kit but they all look the same.

I'll follow your tip on the frame issue. Hope it will look better.

Very off topic: For you guys that are doing chopper builds and want something extra, check out www.minitunning.com . I got myself a 300 mm wide rear tire and new rimbs + some extra bits and parts. They all look great and well worth the money.

/Joel

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