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  • From: Okinawa, Japan
Posted by Evil Herc on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:00 AM

Sorry for the double post.

The Tomcat I am working on is in 1/72. Why the hell do ya'll call it divine scale. as i was trying to paint the bottom shade on the cat i realized that this thing is to small to paint. I know i need alot more practice & more practice with my airbrush but i can see no managable way to paint all these little panels.SoapBox [soapbox]

Engines to stop, Props Feathered, ECBs pulled, put her to bed, Time to go Home,
Jason

Jason- (USMC Colonel/USMC SQ CO FAA/USN/FAW GB) Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem. Ronald Reagan, President of the United States; 1985

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Posted by Evil Herc on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:53 AM

Aaron great job... she is ready to fly after a lil weathering.

XO... Grats on 10,000 post!!!Bow [bow] I do not right or post enough to ever hit that goal.After a night with the ladies and the good rum stock being used, we may need to post this in Officers country.

Banged Head [banghead]I was working on my Tomcat taday & ran into a few snagsBanged Head [banghead]. I thinned my tamiya acrylic with windex to preshade and it went on great. I then grabbed my Mr.Color grey #308 for the underside of the aircraft. I mixed it with windex and watched as it seperated. I continued mixing and thought it was good. poured into my airbrush and began shooting on a piece of test board. the gun started spitting & sputtering. I looked into the well and had seperated paint, congelling paint also that was clogging the bottom of the well. I dumped the paint, tried cleaning the brush with windex but with no luck.Banged Head [banghead] I then grabbed my bottle of paint and realized it was enamel!!!Boohoo [BH] hurried and grabbed my thinner cleaned the gun as best i could. Had to disassemble it and use acetone. all clean, ready to go, i thinned my paint with thinner, Sprayed the test board & started getting these strange spider web things wisping away from the paint. Poured this paint out cleaned the brush again, mixed a new batch. I tested it , all seemed well. started painting the underside of the cat, found out i need more control of the brush but I also started getting the spider webs againBanged Head [banghead]. Anyone have any ideas of what happened & how to fix it???

Engines to stop, Props Feathered, ECBs pulled, put her to bed, Time to go Home,
Jason

Jason- (USMC Colonel/USMC SQ CO FAA/USN/FAW GB) Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem. Ronald Reagan, President of the United States; 1985

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Posted by Daywalker on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:31 AM

Thanks Richie! Big Smile [:D]  Looks like the three of us are gonna have to take one for the team and entertain all of these lovely ladies by ourselves.  The things we do for this GB! Approve [^]

Aaron- Well done, that's what a Hurricane should look like!  Looks like she has been to sea for some time, I love it!  Glad you enjoyed that kit my friend! Big Smile [:D]

Frank 

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 2:00 AM
Aaron she's a stunner mate!!!!! Absolutely wonderful!!!! Loved watching this one come together as well!!!! WELL DONE!!!!!Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Make a Toast [#toast]Thumbs Up [tup] I have never in my life had 4 kits going at once!!!!! I am however pushing the envelope with 3 at the moment!!!Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]
Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by sfcmac on Wednesday, July 22, 2009 1:42 AM

 Well looks like just You, Ritchie and I tonight XO!  All those nurses and rum.... so little time, Tongue [:P]

 Well Here is the latest on the 1/48 Hasegawa Sea Hurricane. There were two options in this kit. One Merchant ship protector without the arrester detail (easy) and the 1st single seat FAA monoplane fighter to serve on a British Carrier! ( a bit more work) I chose the latter and here it is.

I weathered it rather harshly to try and match photos of Hurricanes at sea.  Like Frank sez aggressive weathering! Evil [}:)]

Well once again I would like to thank the XO , Frank, without who this little build would not have happened.Bow [bow]

I had a really great time with it and it was a nice break from the stringbag trio while I waited for parts!  Thank you Ritchie! Thumbs Up [tup]

 Going to wake up tomorrow and get back to business on them. Hopefully the 1/48 parts will show tomorrow afternoon. Confused [%-)]

Thanks everyone  and goodnight! Pirate [oX)]

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Posted by simpilot34 on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:20 PM

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!

FRANK YOU DA MAN!!!!

Party [party]Make a Toast [#toast]Make a Toast [#toast]Make a Toast [#toast]Thumbs Up [tup]

Always a pleasure to see you and your wealth of info that is shared with us all!!!!!!! Yes, genuinely a pleasure to have around!!!!!!!! WELL DONE!!!!!!!!

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:59 PM
Thank you Sarge!  I appreciate that, really.  You guys here are the best I have had the pleasure of building with, and that is no lie.  Here's to another 10,000 with you scallywags! Pirate [oX)]

Frank 

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:46 PM

10,000 POST

 and a big congrats to ya XO!!! You have taught us much and graced these pages with some of the finest work I have seen!

Break out the Nurses! These have been sent to me by many well wishers here!

and don't you think I don't appreciate it gentlemen!

Now Susan will you intro our man of the hour... XO the Daywalker extradanair!  Frankazoony!!!!

Now there is a man who has seen some action! Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Whistling [:-^]

I know I know!  You are required a 1000 post for every model built!

Whistling [:-^]Laugh [(-D]Make a Toast [#toast]Make a Toast [#toast]Pirate [oX)]

Never a better XO! heres to FRAnk!!! Party [party]

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:27 PM
 sfcmac wrote:

 OK FRank is killing me here! Sitting at 9.999 post! When will the big 10,000 happen? Bow [bow]

LOL, sorry mate!  I was trying to think of something profound, whimsical, entertaining at least for post number 10,000 but alas- nothing came to mind!  All I can say it has been a pleasure building, socializing, and sharing life's trials and tribulations with all of you gents here at the FAAGB.  You are some of the best people I have ever run into, and I am so glad to call all of you My Friends.  Thank you everyone for some of the best times ever on this forum!

This calls for the good stuff.  Cap'n bondo- would you be so kind as to break out that bottle we stashed away so long ago?  It's time to drink and be merry.  Cheers everyone!

Make a Toast [#toast]

Frank 

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 9:12 PM
Aaron, hope you are feeling better mate!!!!!!! Much much better!!!!! That Sea Hurri is absolutely gorgious!!!!! Beautiful paintwork!!!!! Looking forward to seeing the final touches!!!!!Bow [bow]Make a Toast [#toast]
Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 8:50 PM

 OK FRank is killing me here! Sitting at 9.999 post! When will the big 10,000 happen? Bow [bow]

 A couple of last in progress pics of the Hurricane as it has to dry before the final finishing and weathering.

Who started this anyways?!!! Drilling out light bulbs?  Oh jeeze! Looks good though I think?

Pretty happy with the paint job. Made the lines just a wee bit harder edged and then took pics on the cardboard and it shows up better. The colors really are close enough the camera has a hard time with them.  Let her dry weather , few metal chips. Blacken that intake and add some exhaust staining and the antenna then it will be Back to the stringbag trio! Party [party]

Frank must gonna waut until midnight! Party time!

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Posted by bondoman on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 6:33 PM
 New Hampshire wrote:
 Daywalker wrote:

Brian- Love that Harrier, sure looks like it means business.  What was it you were saying about memory loss?  I forgot already. Sigh [sigh]

 

I was going to say something....but now I can't remember what! Big Smile [:D]

Everyone here is doing a great job.  This is one squeaky clean running ship!  That there Captain Bondo and our beloved CAG sure know how to steer a true course, even when sopped up on a gallon o' rum!  Now THAT is talent!!!!

Brian

Discipline come from the  XO. He's a terror with his spot inspections.

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Posted by New Hampshire on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 6:08 PM
 Daywalker wrote:

Brian- Love that Harrier, sure looks like it means business.  What was it you were saying about memory loss?  I forgot already. Sigh [sigh]

 

I was going to say something....but now I can't remember what! Big Smile [:D]

Everyone here is doing a great job.  This is one squeaky clean running ship!  That there Captain Bondo and our beloved CAG sure know how to steer a true course, even when sopped up on a gallon o' rum!  Now THAT is talent!!!!

Brian

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  • From: Wirral. UK
Posted by Spike190 on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 5:58 PM
Mmmmm nice nurse :-)

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by Spike190 on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 5:56 PM
Thanks everyone, glad you guys all approve.
Had a little go with the Tamiya smoke tonight, now I need to put the fuselage away before I muck up!!!
Looking forward to seeing some paint on that Harrier Brian. Aaron I hope you feel better real soon and the back doesn't give you to much jip.

Cheers...

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 4:22 PM
 lewbud wrote:

Oops!  How'd that last one get in there?  Them bent wing birds are sneaky!

Approve [^] Great photo, nothing quite like images of Corsairs.

Frank 

 

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Posted by simpilot34 on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 2:24 PM
Aaron, thats great news bout the PE!!!! Very happy I could help out!!!!!!!!! Not as scary as you thought huh? Lemme know if you can get the elevator control cable guides, tail feather control horns, and the fixed fwd gunbarrel rolled tight enough to look scale!!!!!Mischief [:-,]Wink [;)] Mainly because I want to know how you did it!!!!Big Smile [:D] I just used stretched sprue for the control horns which were already on, along with the cables by the time I had the PE!!!!! Banged Head [banghead] Looking forward to see your lil gem catch up!!!!! CARRY ON!!!!!!
Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by lewbud on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 1:36 PM

Aaron,

Sorry to hear about that.  Hope you get to feeling better soon.  To help the Nurse would like to see you ASAP!

To aid in your recovery or just ward off general boredom, here's some pics of the Hurricane at Lone Star in Galveston.  Hope they got her out before Ike hit because she was in no condition to fly at the time.

Oops!  How'd that last one get in there?  Them bent wing birds are sneaky!

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by razordws on Tuesday, July 21, 2009 12:37 PM

Neu, Mike, Brian, great stuff guys!!! Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]  Keep the pics coming. 

Aaron, sorry to hear about the mishap.  Hope everything heals quickly. Been through some back problems myself lately, over the last year actually, and it is nothng to mess around with.  Take good care of it.

Dave

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  • From: League City, Texas
Posted by sfcmac on Monday, July 20, 2009 11:00 PM

Man o Man.... I take a quick nap and there are post of 3 crazy terriffic looking builds posted. Neu that looks like some great work. Really adds to the look doesn't it?

Mike that  paint scheme on that Hellcat is looking great! Haen't seen that done before but it looks freaky fine!

Brian  that Harrier and all the itty bitty PE!  Really makes me cringe cuz I know what you went through to get it to look that good.

Kudos to the three of you!Make a Toast [#toast]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Pirate [oX)]

Ritchie I got the PE today and it is perfect! Just what I needed. I'll wrap up the hurricane and catch that Revell kit right up!  You are right it will make the diff between night and day with that kit!  You da man! Bow [bow]Bow [bow] The parts aren't quite as scary as I had expected so I think I can use about 95 %  of what you sent!

Still waiting on the 1/48 Tamiya stuff though. Tracking # sez Weds delivery.

 Seaking of that divine scale stuff. Lewbud!  I do actually work. Really too much and my back is paying the price today. Had a breakdown last night that caused a sudden and violent stop that tossed me hard enough to break the seat and split the soul of my steel toe in half.  Not bouncing back from it as fast as I'd like to so I took the night off. Censored [censored] Going to the doc tomorrow AM and see what the verdict is.

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, July 20, 2009 10:17 PM

Evil Herc- Glad you are enjoying your stand as well! Big Smile [:D]  Boy, these things are selling like hot cakes now.  Especially with so many great testimonials.

-Neu- Your Seahawk is coming along very well, keep those pics coming.

Mike- That Hellcat looks so smoooooth, well done!  Can't wait to see her done up. Approve [^]

Brian- Love that Harrier, sure looks like it means business.  What was it you were saying about memory loss?  I forgot already. Sigh [sigh]

Frank 

 

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Posted by lewbud on Monday, July 20, 2009 8:30 PM

Neu,

Two words for the intakes FOD Covers.Laugh [(-D]  If you plan on sticking with divine scale the Toko/Frog kit is it, it seems.Sigh [sigh] 

Mike,

Nice work on the Hellcat.  Here's hoping everything goes right when you attach the wings.Make a Toast [#toast]

Mac,

You sure you go to work?  The way you're knocking them out leads me to believe otherwise.  Got some of the pics back I took at Lone Star Flight Musuem last year and the Hurricane pics (the plane, not Ike) got me wondering if ya'll would like to see them.  Not much FAA stuff, but a lot of USN stuff.  Won't mention the partially naked F4U-5N, Frank wouldn't want to see them anyway.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by simpilot34 on Monday, July 20, 2009 7:44 PM

Mike your cat is looking good mate!!!!! Very smooth paint job!!!!! Looking forward to more pics!!!Thumbs Up [tup]Make a Toast [#toast]

Brian looking forward to your grey ghost becoming a technicolor wonder!!!!!!Thumbs Up [tup] Good job!!!!Make a Toast [#toast]

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by New Hampshire on Monday, July 20, 2009 7:17 PM

Your 'Cat is looking good Mike!

Brian

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Posted by New Hampshire on Monday, July 20, 2009 7:06 PM

Ok, I know I promised these a while ago, but you know how it goes.  Ya sit there in front of your computer and remind yourself "oh yeah, need to take pics the next time I am at the bench."  Then when you get around to the bench you go "what was it I was supposed to remember?"  Right?  Please tell me I am not the only one with a horrible memory! Big Smile [:D]

I have a couple more pieces of Photo Etch to add, but will wait until the last minute before painting because they are some of the smallest and most fragile of the exterior pieces.  Besides that it is just maskign the canopy and the ordenance left before the big paint job!

Brian

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Posted by Spike190 on Monday, July 20, 2009 5:12 PM

Looking good Neu, gonna look very busy down below.

Aaron, nice work on the Hurricane. You do make me feel terribly slow thoughBlush [:I]

Well I've almost finished, oh except for the wings etc.

some pictures for you fellows.....

Still a few little bits to touch up on here. Wings etc are all together and hope to get painting them this week.

Cheers everyone...

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by -Neu- on Monday, July 20, 2009 4:34 PM
 bondoman wrote:
One interesting thing you can see from the cutaway here:

http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/photos/militaryaviation1946-2006cutaways/images/11504/hawker-seahawk-cutaway.jpg

is that the intake for the engine (Nene) which is a centrifugal compressor type, is only slightly behind those two inlets at the wing roots, although centered in the fuse, so the air does a "90" inboard to the engine. Might be hard to breath standing still. Another unusual feature are the twin jet pipes for one engine.



Yeah I noticed they have alot of great stuff on the site. The photo on this page shows it better:
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1950/1950%20-%200288.html

To be honest, its the part I dread the most; its going to be a hell of a scratchbuild to fit the intakes into that space.

Anyway thanks to sfmac and everybody else for their advice... I had some time to work on it over the weekend, and as you see, I've gone a little bit overboard. Its partly because I had too much fun adding in all the internals.



This is a early test fit of the airframe.


Again, thanks for all the help... I'm having a great time with this. By the way, does anybody know of a 1/72 Sea Venom FAW22 model? I'd like to have the three planes used in Suez side by side, but I can't find anything except the dreadfully reviewed Toko/frog kit.


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Posted by bondoman on Monday, July 20, 2009 9:42 AM

 jeaton01 wrote:
The doors are probably blow in doors to get more air to the engine at low airspeed, often seen on 50's jets, and the MiG 29 too.  Spring loaded, closed on the ground.
I'd agree. One interesting thing you can see from the cutaway here:

http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/photos/militaryaviation1946-2006cutaways/images/11504/hawker-seahawk-cutaway.jpg

is that the intake for the engine (Nene) which is a centrifugal compressor type, is only slightly behind those two inlets at the wing roots, although centered in the fuse, so the air does a "90" inboard to the engine. Might be hard to breath standing still. Another unusual feature are the twin jet pipes for one engine.

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Posted by Evil Herc on Monday, July 20, 2009 7:09 AM

Aaron looking really good.

I recently purchased the XOs slightly smaller paint stand for $599.00. It is a small styrafoam brick. I had to pay extra ($28.37) for the high speed low drag modeling sticks.

As soon as i get a chance to use it I will post pics.

Engines to stop, Props Feathered, ECBs pulled, put her to bed, Time to go Home,
Jason

Jason- (USMC Colonel/USMC SQ CO FAA/USN/FAW GB) Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem. Ronald Reagan, President of the United States; 1985

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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, July 19, 2009 10:41 PM

 sfcmac wrote:
One of Frank's favorite schemes of the Dark sea Gray and Dark Slate Gray over Sky. Make a Toast [#toast]

AAAAACK!!!  Dead [xx(]The next time I have to paint something in that scheme, I'm sending it to Texas! Cowboy [C):-)]

 sfcmac wrote:
Getting my $$$'s worth outta the MkIII point 7 paint stand. Pat Pending by the XO. Best $627.37 I ever spent Frank. Thumbs Up [tup]

So glad to hear you are enjoying your new paint stand!  Remember kids, these are on sale right now so the $627.37 price will not last long! Mischief [:-,]

You make it look easy Aaron, well done!  That Hurri is coming along beautifully. Approve [^]

Frank 

 

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