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BomberGruppe GB - 2007 (Luftwaffe Bombers)

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  • Member since
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  • From: Northern KY
Posted by mucker on Monday, September 17, 2007 1:31 PM
 espins1 wrote:

Did any of you see this killer He-177 build?

http://www.network54.com/Forum/47751/message/1189787677/M+P+M+1-48th++He+177...............+finished!!!!

Yes...that's amazing! Where's Carsanab? This could provide the inspiration he needs to finish his!

Neat markings, too. I wonder what it woud be like to be out on a mission in your enemy's aircraft, even if the markings are your own?

 

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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Monday, September 17, 2007 1:40 PM

Cool Scott. thanks for pointing that out.  Can't imagine where I would put something that big.

Mucker, I agree with you if it looks like a henkiel shoot first and ask questions later.  There were enough instances where friendly forces shot at friendly forces in their own planes that I think flying a enemy plane would be ludicrous.

Dave

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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Thursday, September 20, 2007 2:13 PM
Well disaster struck last night.  I tried painting the splinter pattern on and I guess the lid on the paint didn't seal right or something because the paint was a little thick, I didn't think anything of it, just added a little thinner but I guess with acrylics that doesn't work.  The paint was all lumpy and just looked awful so I decided I had to strip the 234 down and start over.  Well, as I was brushing the stripped paint off I was holding it by the nose and the whole cockpit section came off in my hand and at least one of the cockpit pieces washed down the drain I was working over.  Banged Head [banghead]Banged Head [banghead]Banged Head [banghead]  I'm sure I can scratchbuild the missing piece but at this rate I'll be lucky to finish one of my 4 Ar 234's by the deadline. Sigh [sigh]

Dave

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  • From: Katy, TX
Posted by Aggieman on Thursday, September 20, 2007 4:00 PM

Oh man, sorry to hear that.  Banged Head [banghead]  Could you get under the sink and remove that part of the pipe (I guess there is usually a U joint down there).  I'd guess that unless you really ran a lot of water through there before you realized what disaster had befallen you that perhaps the part may still be retrievable? 

Or perhaps that's more trouble than it's worth, especially depending on what part it was.

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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Thursday, September 20, 2007 9:40 PM
I thought about it but I didn't realize the piece had come off (even though I thoroughly scrutinized the pit to make sure I hadn't broken anythiing) until I finished scubbing and by then a lot of water had passed through.  It's a simple piece to scratch build so I'll go that route.  Well, back to the bench, I got a lot of time to make up on this thing!

Dave

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  • From: Cherry valley il.
Posted by invertman on Thursday, September 20, 2007 10:26 PM

hey guys,

whats going on.

been real buisy lately with work and family.

been working long hours....yuck!

anyway......im going to try to get the condor done hopefully in the next couple of weeks.

need to paint the props,spinners,and the rest of the glass.

will post some pics soon.

the builds are looking great guys!

jason.

 

  if you want permission for a test flight.... the answer is "no".

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  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, September 20, 2007 10:43 PM
Dave, these late war German bombers sort of have a curse on them, like they are still losing the war, huh?  Good luck and perserverence, sir!

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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  • From: Northern KY
Posted by mucker on Friday, September 21, 2007 12:21 PM

Keep the faith, Dave! It will all turn out right in the end!

 

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Posted by mucker on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 11:23 AM

How's everyone else been doing?

Jason? Scott? Carlos?

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  • From: Reno, NV
Posted by espins1 on Thursday, September 27, 2007 11:22 AM
Sorry guys, I haven't had much time for modeling the past month.  We have some health issues with the family that are taking up a lot of our time and energy which I recently mentioned in the Kursk GB thread.  My wife's father had 6 way by-pass surgery is not doing well, my wife's sister is undergoing radiation treatment as part of her ongoing battle with cancer (3rd time she's battling it) and my wife was diagnosed with skin cancer, she goes in for surgery next month, so things have been a bit stressful in the Espin household lately.  I don't think I'll be able to get my JU88 finished anywhere near the deadline for this GB.... Sigh [sigh]

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, September 27, 2007 11:44 AM
Best wishes for your family, Scott, sorry to hear of your troubles. 

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by espins1 on Thursday, September 27, 2007 11:52 AM

Thanks John, I appreciate it.  It's been a tough year, we seemed to have gotten smacked upside the head with a lot of things in the past month or two. 

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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  • From: Northern KY
Posted by mucker on Thursday, September 27, 2007 11:57 AM

 espins1 wrote:
Sorry guys, I haven't had much time for modeling the past month.  We have some health issues with the family that are taking up a lot of our time and energy which I recently mentioned in the Kursk GB thread.  My wife's father had 6 way by-pass surgery is not doing well, my wife's sister is undergoing radiation treatment as part of her ongoing battle with cancer (3rd time she's battling it) and my wife was diagnosed with skin cancer, she goes in for surgery next month, so things have been a bit stressful in the Espin household lately.  I don't think I'll be able to get my JU88 finished anywhere near the deadline for this GB.... Sigh [sigh]

Scott:

Given the circumstances, you have an open-ended due date for the GB. Regardless of when you complete it, you've earned your wings.

 Obviously your number one priority is to be there for your family.  In my prayers will be a swift recovery and healing for You and your family. Stay strong and believe.

 

 

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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Thursday, September 27, 2007 5:34 PM
Holy Cow Scott!  My heart felt condolences and prayers go out to you and your family.  Keep the faith.

Dave

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Posted by espins1 on Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:07 PM

Thanks guys, I really appreciate the moral support.  We're hanging in there as best we can right now.  My wife and I have been really busy with our jobs lately, which is a good thing.... helps keep our minds occupied so we have less time to dwell on the bad things.  I'm hoping to spend some time at my work bench this weekend, it's very theraputic for me.  Smile [:)]

I just wish my wife's surgery was sooner (Oct.23) as I know it's weighing heavily on her mind.  Hopefully it's still in just the one spot and they can catch it before it's had a chance to spread.

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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Posted by mucker on Monday, October 1, 2007 11:51 AM

The equivalent of the Two Minute Warning has been sounded...we are in the final month...

Macht Scnell, Komeraden! Wink [;)]

 

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Posted by razordws on Monday, October 1, 2007 12:08 PM
EEEEK!!!! Shock [:O]

Dave

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  • From: Piscataway, NJ!
Posted by wing_nut on Tuesday, October 2, 2007 6:16 AM
I have not checked in here for a bit so popped in only to read Scott's news.  Hang in there man.  Take care of business 1st.  This plastic and glue stuff will be here, as will the rest of us, when you're ready to get back to it.

Marc  

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Posted by espins1 on Tuesday, October 2, 2007 10:12 AM

Thanks Marc, I appreciate it. 

And to add insult to injury I went in to my doctor yesterday.  I go in October 17th to have a biopsy on a patch of skin they're going to remove on my temple.  Hopefully it's nothing to worry about, but believe me my friends, if you notice something on yourself or your significant other that suddenly appears, changes colors, gets red or anything else out of the ordinary on your skin get it looked at ASAP!  The sooner you catch these things the better!

It sucks getting old my friends..... Shock [:O]

I'll eventually be able to get back to work on the JU88.  What little time I have for modeling is now going towards finishing up my Tiger I and Elefant (tanks?!?  perish the thought!  Laugh [(-D])

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Wednesday, October 3, 2007 11:36 AM

You're right Scott, getting old does suck!

Things for me are starting to settle down a bit, managed to find a new car for the wife (I get stuck with the old van Sad [:(]) and work has slowed down so I've been able to get back to the bench.  The first Ar 234 is almost back together after scratching the two pieces that I lost.  I just need to re-attach the canopies and touch up some seams.  The second Ar 234 just needs the canopy masked and attached and it'll be ready for paint too.  It's Canadain Thanksgiving this weekend so I hope to get a good jump on the paint provided the guests don't stay too long.

Dave

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  • From: Tucson
Posted by cardshark_14 on Wednesday, October 3, 2007 5:19 PM

Scott, I'm sorry to hear about your troubles. I will keep you and your wife in my thoughts.

Dave, your 234s sound like they are going to be an excellent addition to our bomber fleet, keep plugging, you'll get there...and the result will be spectacular.

As for myself, I'm starting to wonder... I've been fighting mono for the past few weeks. I made it all the way through college without catching it, but I guess I'm not lucky enough to have given it a miss forever...Dead [xx(] Anyways, I'm starting to feel better, but this Henschel is bedeviling me at every step of the way. I just hope it manages to avoid heavy antiaircraft fire in the form of a hammer...Mischief [:-,] It was going real well until a few weeks ago, the night I came down with mono. I was gluing the lower wing together when disaster struck. I spilled a whole bloody bottle of Tenax on the fuselage halves and other assorted pieces. After cleaning up, I decided that what with the mono and all I felt pretty bad, boxed everything up, and went to bed.

A few days later, I took it back out to assess the damage. Not really all that bad, but about 1/16" coat of glue over the front half of the fuselage. This being the old ESCI kit, it of course it had raised panel lines, so I had to make a decision. After I sand the glue off, do I try to replace the raised detail with stretched sprue, or do I bite the bullet and attempt to rescribe the whole thing?  Stretching that much sprue didn't sound like all that much fun, but rescribing was something I had never tried...deadline?  What deadline?  Surely rescribing will only take a few days, no biggie right??  Wrong!  Oh boy was I wrong.  

After a bunch of research and asking stupid questions Wink [;)]on how to rescribe, un-rescribe, re-rescribe, and a million and one other things, I am now almost done with a fuselage half, half the lower wing, and all the miscellaneous little bits. I've also got most of the resin cockpit assembled and ready for paint.  

I'm going to go do a bit of testing in the test forum to figure out posting pictures, then post my progress.

 

 

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  • From: Northern KY
Posted by mucker on Wednesday, October 3, 2007 5:35 PM

Ouch, cardshark! I've spilled Tenax all over a model before, too, but with much worse results...consider yourself lucky that you can still salvage the build.

You know when all is said and done, the experience you'll have gained from a re-scrive will be very fulfilling. at least it would for me...I've yet to do major re-scribing.

Post some pics of your re-scribe work. 

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  • From: Tucson
Posted by cardshark_14 on Thursday, October 4, 2007 3:30 PM

Mucker, your wish is my command. Bow [bow]

The good, the bad, and the ugly...

The Good - my first modification to a kit...since this is the AMTech version, it includes optional unspatted landing gear that need the mounting holes changed a bit.  This turned out fairly well.

The Bad - The Tenax disaster shortly thereafter...it looks like the plastic is burnt, but its actually the ink from my cutting mats that the Tenax dissolved, along with everything else...

The Ugly - Step 3 in my newly copyrighted, trademarked, and registered scribing technique...Wink [;)]

The Good, Part II Cool [8D] - A before and after shot of the lower wing scribing, its not done, but its close...

 

More on my cobbled together, but highly effective scribing technique will be in Techniques later...

More updates and pictures to come soon as well. Take care y'all, and though its probably too soon for any comments yet, anything you've got is more'n welcome.

Never trust anyone who refuses to drink domestic beer, laugh at the Three Stooges, or crank Back In Black.
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Posted by mucker on Friday, October 5, 2007 8:41 AM

cardshark:

The re-scribe work looks great so far...except for the last picture. I don't like to be the bearer of bad news, but the control surfaces on the wings are fabric, and they are molded to show the stretched fabric over the metal frame underneath. I don't believe they have recessed "panel lines".

Again, I don't mean to be the rain in the parade, but wanted to politely bring it up.

Other than that, you did a great job recovering form "The Tenax Incident"!

 

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  • From: Tucson
Posted by cardshark_14 on Sunday, October 7, 2007 4:55 PM

Oh man...that is why I, and no one else as well, should not be allowed to do ANYTHING whilst having mono.  I just went over all of ESCI's raised panel lines.  Thinking and mono are complete opposites I suppose...Oh well, good catch, and thanks for telling me...Its an easy fix, and I don't know when I would have caught it...oh well...Actually, its kind of good news because it drastically reduces the amount of rescribing I have to do.  

Once again, thanks for the catch, and the kind words! Smile [:)] 

Never trust anyone who refuses to drink domestic beer, laugh at the Three Stooges, or crank Back In Black.
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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:34 PM

After a few weeks of back tracking I am finally back to where I was a month ago.  The bad news is I havn't had a good excuse to make the 45 minute drive down to the nearest LHS that carries the RLM 81 that I need to finish the camo.  I will be making a trip to the states next week and hope to pick it up then.  In the meantime I will concentrate on getting the 234B up to the same point so that I can do both when I get back.  Hope to have these two close to finished by the deadline.  My other two 234's will have to wait for awhile as I need a break from these Dragon kits.

 

Dave

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  • From: Northern KY
Posted by mucker on Friday, October 12, 2007 8:47 AM

Looking good Dave. If it will help out with time, I can send you what I have left in my RLM 81 bottle...

From your post, I take it these Dragon kits are no shake'n'bake kits. Still, what you've posted looks great. Great stuff so far.

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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Friday, October 12, 2007 12:51 PM
Thanks Mucker for the comments and for the offer but I think sending it in the mail wouldn't get it here any faster.  I appreciate the thought though.  The Dragon kits are incredibly well detailed for 1/72 scale and are the best Ar 234's in this scale.  The fit and engineering unfortunately leaves much to be desired. Sigh [sigh]

Dave

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  • From: Northern KY
Posted by mucker on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 5:39 PM

Ok, Gruppe:

How are we all doing? Two weeks and counting... 

Most of you are close to being done, and a few may not have started yet....It's getting down to crunch time! (Not the "crunch" associated with when you step on a plastic windscreen).

Let's see how large we can make this fleet!! 

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Posted by cardshark_14 on Sunday, October 21, 2007 5:58 PM

Mucker, and all:

I'm still in the running, though it may be a bit of a sprint at the end Wink [;)]  Over the weekend I got some more time and got all the scribing done.  Hopefully tonight I can start painting the cockpit and closing up the fuselage halves.  I'll post pictures after I'm done for the day.

Take care y'all!

 

Never trust anyone who refuses to drink domestic beer, laugh at the Three Stooges, or crank Back In Black.
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