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BomberGruppe GB - 2007 (Luftwaffe Bombers)

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  • Member since
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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Sunday, October 21, 2007 6:53 PM

Cardshark, good to hear that I am not the only one sprinting to the finish.  Finally got some rlm 81 on my trip to Reno to finish the camo on the 234C.  I just have to finish masking the front canopy piece and then the 234B will be ready for paint too.

The trip down to Reno was quite the adventure! Banged Head [banghead]  Did I mention I hate air travel?  The flight from Seattle to Reno got redirected to Portland due to mechanical trouble, from there we had to fly to SanFransco where we sat on the Tarmac for 30min. waiting for a gate to become available and then had to literally run to the other side of the terminal to make our next flight only to be shunted into hold in the extra security line because we switched airlines, there we waited another 20 minutes until they felt like dealing with us. Banged Head [banghead] Banged Head [banghead] Banged Head [banghead]  Thankfully we still made the flight because they held it for us.  However it meant we spent 14 hours in airports or planes and got to our hotel at like 1:30am.  Grumpy [|(]

Dave

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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Sunday, October 21, 2007 11:04 PM

Just a couple of progress pics.  The 234B has been sealed up and ready for paint so I thought I would take some photos of the putty before I start painting so that you guys can see the issues with these kits.  The first pic shows the camera compartment cover.  I probably should have removed it and shimmed it up a bit to reduce the amount of putty.

The next one show the poor fit of the canopy to the fuselage.  Don't think there was anything I could do with this.  I did try to file down the fuse so that it would sit better but if you do too much then the front canopy piece won't sit properly.

 

I have already painted the gray for the canopy and hope to get the underside on tonight and the top rlm 83 tomorrow.

Dave

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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 12:51 PM

Well things seam to be rolling along now, managed to get the to coat of rlm 83 on the 234B and the splinter pattern of rlm 81 on the 234C.  I plan to future the 234C tonight and decal tomorrow.  Maybe even do the splinter on the 234B tonight too if the kids go to bed on time (ya right).

Dave

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  • From: Reno, NV
Posted by espins1 on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 5:26 PM

Hey guys, just wanted to let you know my wife's surgery was this morning.  It all went pretty well, and the plastic surgeon had everything sewed up in a jiffy.  The whole process took about 4 hours.  The actual procedures were very short, it was the testing and examining the removed skin which took so long.  We got lucky, the spot the dermatologist removed was about the size of a jellybean, which made it a snap to patch up.  I've got my wife on the couch relaxing right now and am going to take care of her.  Smile [:)]

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 5:34 PM

Good to hear that everything went well Scott.  Take good care of that wife of yours! 

I had a pleasant stay in Reno and had a very nice visit with the boys in High Sierra Hobbies.  I picked up a couple of new kits at great prices and almost went back for more but I didn't take a big enough suitcase Sad [:(]

Dave

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  • From: Northern KY
Posted by mucker on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 8:40 PM

Party [party] Woo-Hoo! That's great news, Scott! I'm very glad you stopped by to share the news. I'm going to ride that high and hit the modeling bench tonight.

Does this mean the scare is all over with? Did they remove everything they needed to?

I had a splotch on my arm removed about 6 years ago, so I know what that;s all about. I have a neat little scar to prove it. The story changes depending on who sees it. Bar fight, heroic rescue,...you name it!

Great progress so far, Dave. You'll have two little gems there when all is said and done.

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, October 25, 2007 7:16 AM
Hey Scott... glad to hear that went well.  Hang in there buddy!

Marc  

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  • From: Reno, NV
Posted by espins1 on Thursday, October 25, 2007 11:21 AM

Thanks for the moral support my friends.  My wife is doing good.  Swelling is still an issue, but she's been really good about keeping it properly iced.  There is still a little bleading from time to time, but nothing major.  The pain has been minimal which is really good.  I'm at work today, but have our oldest daughter on "nurse" duty today.  Smile [:)]

Glad to hear you had a good trip Dave.  High Sierra Hobbies is a great store eh?  Smile [:)]

Scott Espin - IPMS Reno High Rollers  Geeked My Reviews 

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  • From: Cherry valley il.
Posted by invertman on Thursday, October 25, 2007 10:21 PM

whats up guys,

havent been on here in a while to check in.

work has been kicking my butt this month,but after tomorrow i

will finally be able to get back to the bench. i see we have some great

builds shaping up here.

hopefully i will be able to get the condor done in time.

jason

  if you want permission for a test flight.... the answer is "no".

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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Friday, October 26, 2007 12:53 AM

Still plugging away, got the splinter camo on the 234B and Decals on the 234C.  I plan on doing a mottle of rlm 76 on the sides of the 234B yet so I've got a ways to go on it but if I have a good weekend it should be close.  Looking forward to seeing your condor finished Jason.  I know what you mean about work, had a terrible day today and I'm not looking forward to going back tomorrow. Dead [xx(]

 

Dave

  • Member since
    February 2007
  • From: Bournemouth UK
Posted by Luftwoller on Friday, October 26, 2007 4:47 AM

Awesome work Razor. You kill me with the multiple builds. I have trouble enough completeing one at a time lol.

...Guy

..'Your an embarrassment to the human genus, makes me ashamed to call myself Homo'.
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  • From: Northern KY
Posted by mucker on Friday, October 26, 2007 10:59 AM

Looking good, Dave! I love the paint stage.

And I agree with everything said about work. The old addage is that if it were fun, it wouldn't be called "work".

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, October 26, 2007 12:43 PM

Looking good Dave.  I think you are repeating history, seems like the Germans were a bit troubled by the odd bombing and other irritants while building the 234's weren't they?

 

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: Cherry valley il.
Posted by invertman on Friday, October 26, 2007 8:58 PM

hows it going everyone,

i regert to inform everyone that disaster has stricken the condor.

when i came home from work,my wife was sitting on the couch and she was upset.

when i asked her what was wrong she said that she was putting one of my

modeling books away and one of my brass book ends slid off the shelf crushing the condor!

thats what i get for having a book shelf above my work bench.

all that work.......down the drain.

i may try to repair it but not for a while.

so i am giving back the badge.

sorry guys.

jason.

  if you want permission for a test flight.... the answer is "no".

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  • From: Northern KY
Posted by mucker on Friday, October 26, 2007 9:02 PM

Jason: 

Ouch! the ups and downs you've had with this bird! 

Keep the badge, please. You've been a solid contributer in the GB and a mainstay for a long time. You've definately earned your wings...we'll just say your Condor is in the repair hangar for now.

Maybe late in 2008 we can try a BomberGruppe II, with the Condor a shoe-in for Comeback Bomber of the Year.

Sorry to hear about your disaster.Disapprove [V]

  • Member since
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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Saturday, October 27, 2007 12:04 AM

Thanks everyone for your comments.  Much appreciated. Thumbs Up [tup]

Jason, that really is too bad.  I was really looking forward to seeing that one all finished up. Sad [:(]

Dave

  • Member since
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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Sunday, October 28, 2007 2:22 AM

rlm 76 mottle is now on the 234B!  IN hind sight I should have lifted the mask for a softer edge but it will do.  I have to touch up some overspray on one of the engine pods and then its on to decals.  Getting close.

 

Dave

  • Member since
    June 2004
  • From: Tucson
Posted by cardshark_14 on Sunday, October 28, 2007 3:01 AM

Jason, sorry to hear the bad news, man...is it fixable? Hopefully we'll see it someday, it was lookin' great!

Dave, those 234s are looking real sharp...Those paint schemes are gonna pop!

As for me, progress, is coming along...all major subassemblies are nearly done (need...more...putty Dead [xx(]) I'll post pics before and after I start painting. This kit is nice, but man, does it have some issues...I'm still trying to get her done before the end, but its gonna be close.

Wink [;)]
Never trust anyone who refuses to drink domestic beer, laugh at the Three Stooges, or crank Back In Black.
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  • From: Northern KY
Posted by mucker on Sunday, October 28, 2007 9:05 AM

Dave: They both look nice, but the paint scheme in the foreground is Awesome-wow! Keep the pics coming.

 

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    December 2002
  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, October 28, 2007 11:32 AM

Nice work, Dave, there is light at the end of the tunnel!  I like the front scheme too, I hadn't seen that one before.

Jason, Hang In There!  I'm like that when I crash an RC airplane, I just toss it in the corner and later I can get up the courage to repair it (usually "again").

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: Cherry valley il.
Posted by invertman on Sunday, October 28, 2007 1:55 PM

thanks guys,

i think its repairable but it may be awhile.i keep looking at the trash canWhistling [:-^]

my wife went down to the hobby shop last night when she was out shopping

and picked me up a kit to make up for what she did.

gotta love her....Thumbs Up [tup]

i need to get started on my zero for the pearl harbor gb.

hopefully i can complete this one.

oh and uh.....i installed a keyed entry lock on the door!

jason.

  if you want permission for a test flight.... the answer is "no".

  • Member since
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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:02 PM

Thanks again guys.

John, the scheme is from an Aeromaster sheet (72-085C) and is identified as Ar 234 B-2 of 9/KG76 and was captured by USAAF.  I did adjust it a little with some artictic licence (yes I have a valid artistic licence Clown [:o)]).

Dave

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  • From: Piscataway, NJ!
Posted by wing_nut on Sunday, October 28, 2007 7:12 PM

Dave, the Arados are looking very nice indeed.

 

Jason  OUCH 

Marc  

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  • From: Northern KY
Posted by mucker on Monday, October 29, 2007 6:51 PM

It's the 2 day warning...I think a few more will be completed by the deadline....

 

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  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Monday, October 29, 2007 10:50 PM
 mucker wrote:

It's the 2 day warning...I think a few more will be completed by the deadline....

Or shortly thereafter given the Halloween festivities!  Whistling [:-^]

Dave

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Northern KY
Posted by mucker on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 8:11 AM
 razordws wrote:
 mucker wrote:

It's the 2 day warning...I think a few more will be completed by the deadline....

Or shortly thereafter given the Halloween festivities!  Whistling [:-^]

As long as you're wearing a costume during the festivities. Or busy scaring neighorhood children. I think those are worthwhile diversions from the build..Alien [alien]

Adn be careful all....it is, after all, Hallowed Eve...

 

Muuuuwahahahahaha

  • Member since
    September 2004
  • From: Vernon, BC, Canada
Posted by razordws on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 1:19 AM

Flat coat has been sprayed and masks are off.  Just the fiddly bits to add now.  The 234C is going to need some repair on the canopy as there was some paint pulled off with the mask and some clear coat got under the mask.  The 234B turned out okay but for some reason the inside of the canopy is all dusty.  This has happened to me before and I'm at a loss to explain why this happens.  Anyone got any ideas?

I also opened a new bottle of Model Masters acrylic flat coat and it has a real dusty look to it that is not what I'm used to.  Usually it has more of a satin finish to it. 

 

 

Dave

  • Member since
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  • From: Northern KY
Posted by mucker on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:41 AM

Dave:

 I have no ideas about the dust inside the canopy (unless it's overspray), but my clear flats have a dusty/chalky look to them as well. Hopefully mine was a bad bacth of Polyscale Flat Clear, which according to rumor may have frozen during shipment, negatively affecting its qualities. The other rumor was a re-formulation. If that's the case, would the Model Masters paint be effected too? I thought MOdel Masters and Polyscale were owned by Testors....?

I haven't tried them yet, but I've bought another bottle of the Polyscale, plus Gunze's flat clear and Color of Eagles flat clear...I'll have to do a side-by-side test.

 

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  • From: Tucson
Posted by cardshark_14 on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 12:22 PM
 Luftwoller wrote:

Awesome work Razor. You kill me with the multiple builds. I have trouble enough completeing one at a time lol.

...Guy

Dave, I'm glad to see that those 234s are going to be done in time! Those are some spiffy builds. Smile [:)]

As for me, I fear that I am going to run over the deadline (go figure...Whistling [:-^])  I've run into a few snags, both with it, and at work, so building time has not been what I thought it would.  To top it all off, one of my two cats stole the canopy...they like to bat things around for a while, until its good and 'dead' then carry it off somewhere.  I'll find it eventually, but in the meantime, I'm just gonna keep working on what I have.  I'll post pictures of progress, when I finally make some...Disapprove [V] Anyways, I'm sorry for not finishing in time, I really thought I could.  I'll finish it, I promise, just not soon.  Thanks guys, and keep up the great work.  Wink [;)]

 

Never trust anyone who refuses to drink domestic beer, laugh at the Three Stooges, or crank Back In Black.
  • Member since
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  • From: Northern KY
Posted by mucker on Friday, November 2, 2007 5:46 PM

OK, gentlemen, let's set a final date for the GB...would this Sunday, 11/4 at midnight (in your respective time zone) be enough time to finish what you've started?

 

I know there are a few mid-process builds out there...hopefully this gives a realistic chance of finishing?

Let me know what you think..

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