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SPITFIRE GROUP BUILD 2007-2008

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Posted by jeaton01 on Saturday, July 21, 2007 12:03 AM
The Eduard 1/32 belts are made very well, and there are extras of the small parts in case you lose any.  There are four parts to each lap belt half, and the buckles allow the belts to rotate so it is easy to let things fall into position as the real belts do.  The shoulder harness is also made up of a number of individual parts.  So it's Eduard, not Eaton, who gets any credit due!  The wires are very fine copper stripped out of an old lamp cord and coated with aluminum or black enamel by dragging them through a small brush.  I put them in place while the paint was still flexible.

John

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Posted by razordws on Friday, July 20, 2007 11:58 PM
Wow!!!  The pit is looking awesome John Bow [bow]

Dave

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, July 20, 2007 11:01 PM
 gzt wrote:

John,

nice job on the cockpit. Those wires look really good. You did exceptional job on those belts. Very nice job.

Sign - Ditto [#ditto] Way to go on those belts and wires John!  Those are some of the best looking belts I have ever seen!  Bow [bow]

Frank 

 

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Friday, July 20, 2007 10:12 PM

John,

nice job on the cockpit. Those wires look really good. You did exceptional job on those belts. Very nice job.

Greg 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, July 20, 2007 9:06 PM

Sheesh, there's more parts to the seat belts I just put in this thing than there was in a whole Airfix Whirlwind I built not long ago!  Pretty cute though, even with my ham fisted efforts.  I put a few wires in also, and some stringers on the wing to see in the bare bottom of the cockpit.  A few more photos, just to prove I did do something on K5054.

 

John

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, July 20, 2007 4:31 PM
I stay away from power tools on resin because of the fine dust they make.  The most frequent tool I use for pour stub removal is a very thin razor saw, and then coarse sandpaper.  Resin sands so much more quickly than most plastic that I have to be very careful not to remove too much.  I also most often wet sand, and wipe up the resin dust with a damp paper towel, anything to keep the dust from getting airborne.  I do the same for balsa dust or even plastic dust.  It's fine to wear a mask, but once the dust is in the air and settles in odd places, it's hard to control it.

John

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Posted by arki30 on Friday, July 20, 2007 1:34 PM
 gzt wrote:

I do not have any power tools for resin work. And totally have no idea of the process - including safety  procedures.

Greg 

I'll jump in quickly here and then right back out.  You really don't need power tools to work with resin.  I've noticed lately a "fear" of resin throughout the board that seems misplaced.  At the end of the day, it's not much different than plastic.  Just a couple of things to keep in mind, and that's about it.

1.  Wear a mask when sanding resin.  Resin dust is bad for the lungs.

2.  Clean and prime the resin.  Since that's good advice for plastic also, it really isn't anything different.

3.  Lastly, like plastic parts and PE parts, you have to be careful removing the resin part from the casting block. 

Bottom line, it's just a slightly different medium.  Next project, go for it and you'll probably wonder what the fuss was about.  However, I would recommend starting with simple resin replacement parts like seats and tires before jumping into cockpit or wheel well replacements.  There's a different skill level involved that most modelers need to work up to.

Cheers

I'm out Big Smile [:D]

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gzt
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Posted by gzt on Friday, July 20, 2007 1:19 PM
 ruddratt wrote:
 gzt wrote:

Originally I planned to use Eduard kit but when I saw the level of details tamiya piut into this kit, it would be a huge waste to scrap the panel and place Eduard flat painted instrument panel. So I saved it for ARII kit instead Wink [;)]

Good move! Thumbs Up [tup] The Tamiya 'pit OOB is really nice as is. Add some detail to the seat like harnesses and belts and you've got a real stunner on your hands. All I added to mine was a resin seat from Cutting Edge and a few scratchbuilt details....I'm quite happy with how it turned out.

Mike: thanks! I am glad that I did not go overboard with Eduard on this one. The Tamiya seat is a bit too wide - I sand both sides to almost a non existing thin wall, but reduce the width by about 1 mm. I have seats from Ultracast - those coming with seatbelts included - I just did not have any experience with resin parts and simply chicken out Smile [:)]. Additinal problem would be painting those seatbelts - not an easy task I guess.

I do not have any power tools for resin work. And totally have no idea of the process - including safety  procedures.

Greg 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Friday, July 20, 2007 1:13 PM

Thanks Oliver ! I found one picture where it is shown with a black grip and it looks like a white tip (?) - is it right ?

Greg 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

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Posted by ruddratt on Friday, July 20, 2007 1:05 PM
 gzt wrote:

Originally I planned to use Eduard kit but when I saw the level of details tamiya piut into this kit, it would be a huge waste to scrap the panel and place Eduard flat painted instrument panel. So I saved it for ARII kit instead Wink [;)]

Good move! Thumbs Up [tup] The Tamiya 'pit OOB is really nice as is. Add some detail to the seat like harnesses and belts and you've got a real stunner on your hands. All I added to mine was a resin seat from Cutting Edge and a few scratchbuilt details....I'm quite happy with how it turned out.

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by ollie on Friday, July 20, 2007 12:41 PM
 gzt wrote:

I do not know what is the color of the seat adjustement grip. Any idea ? 

 Black i believe or red.

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gzt
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Posted by gzt on Friday, July 20, 2007 11:32 AM
 ruddratt wrote:

Greg, that is some real fine work on the 'pit! If that's any indication of how the rest of your build will go, then I simply cannot wait to see it! Thumbs Up [tup]

Dave, for such a small scale, that is amazing! Absolutely superb! You guys just keep raising that bar higher and higher. Bow [bow]

Thanks Mike !

What bar ? Smile [:)] its my third plane (second Spit) so I have a though time seing the bar from here Smile [:)]

I love those Spits. More I have in my shelf more I want to get Smile [:)] Is it contagous or what ?

Originally I planned to use Eduard kit but when I saw the level of details tamiya piut into this kit, it would be a huge waste to scrap the panel and place Eduard flat painted instrument panel. So I saved it for ARII kit instead Wink [;)]

I may use some Eduard pieces on the walls but not decided yet. I have to do some more research on the wall details later today. 

Greg 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

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Posted by ruddratt on Friday, July 20, 2007 11:25 AM

Greg, that is some real fine work on the 'pit! If that's any indication of how the rest of your build will go, then I simply cannot wait to see it! Thumbs Up [tup]

Dave, for such a small scale, that is amazing! Absolutely superb! You guys just keep raising that bar higher and higher. Bow [bow]

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Friday, July 20, 2007 10:44 AM
 ModelMan8 wrote:

Greg, that Cockpit looks really good.Thumbs Up [tup]  Did you put future on your instruments?

Dave, excellent job on such a small Spitfire!!Wink [;)]

Chris

 

Thanks Y'All  Smile [:)]

Yes, I put a drop of future into some instruments. Here is the latest - I think I am done with this part. Added belts and voltage regulator plus some silvering on pedals and some other places

Greg 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

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Posted by ModelMan8 on Friday, July 20, 2007 10:18 AM

Greg, that Cockpit looks really good.Thumbs Up [tup]  Did you put future on your instruments?

Dave, excellent job on such a small Spitfire!!Wink [;)]

Chris

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Friday, July 20, 2007 10:05 AM

thanks Dave !! It is a great tip I was looking for Smile [:)]. So, now its time for a larger scale ... Smile [:)]

Keep those Spitfires coming ...

Greg 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

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Posted by razordws on Friday, July 20, 2007 9:48 AM
Thanks for your comments Greg, Frank and Marc.  The aerials are made out of invisible thread (from my wife's sewing basket Big Smile [:D]).  I discovered a new tool for tightening the thread up after glueing it down.  I could never get the blown out match thing to work without melting the thread half the time so I tried some other heat sources without success until my eyes came to rest on the soldering iron.  Worked like a charm.  Constant heat at just the right temperature.

Dave

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, July 20, 2007 7:36 AM
Nice one Dave!  Are you SURE that's 1/72 scale?  It looks bigger to me.  You managed to pack a lot of detail into theat little gem! Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Friday, July 20, 2007 7:16 AM

Greg-great looking cockpit.  Ifthe rest turns out as nice as that it will be a beuaty

 

Dave-That's a nice looking little Spitfire.  Great work there, nice finish.

Marc  

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Friday, July 20, 2007 6:50 AM

Thanks Frank and Dave !

Dave: if I would make 1/72 do not expect any details not even in the cockpit but also on the wings Big Smile [:D]. You did a very good job with painting this little bird. the areal look exceptional. Some day I will try it too Smile [:)],

I missed few spots (my magnifying glass is not strong enough Smile [:)]) but it is not yet set, so I can fix few details. This Weekend I plan to set the cockpit into the fuselage. Next update will be when done with structure.

THanks again

Greg 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

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Posted by razordws on Friday, July 20, 2007 12:15 AM

Cockpit is Looking Good Greg.  Certainly a lot better than mine (as in mine didn't really have a cockpit)

Anyway, as promised the finished pics.  This Airfix's original 1/72 scale Mk I

Dave

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, July 19, 2007 11:27 PM
Holy cow Greg, that looks awesome!  The red you used looks spot on, and nice job picking out the detail on the I.P.!  Can't wait to see what you do with the rest of the model! Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:04 PM

My Tamiya 1/48 Mk Vb - progress:

I decided to use Tamiya parts only. I will use seat belts from Eduard kit, but I think this will be it.

I do not know what is the color of the seat adjustement grip. Any idea ? 

It is not finished yet but what do you Guys think ??

Greg 

 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:52 AM
Thanks phoenixSmile [:)]

Marc  

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Posted by phoenix7187 on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 6:14 PM
Looks great wing nut. The weathering on that white tail is excellent. In fact that spit has alot of white on it. I find it difficult to weather in white and yellow.  
Stan
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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, July 16, 2007 11:22 PM

Like they say in the South (of EnglandConfused [%-)]).... thanks y'allWink [;)]

Mike...4/5 days off?  That's some good catch up time indeed.

Marc  

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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, July 16, 2007 11:13 PM
Glad to have you back around, Mike!  Yep, looks like you got some catching up to do.  These guys keep turning out beautiful models! Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Monday, July 16, 2007 10:29 PM

Wow, there's a lot to catch up on here! John, Greg, very nice starts you're both off to, guys! Marc, I commented on the other thread, but it bears repeating....my hat's off to you sir! Not only is that one of the nicest Spits I've ever seen, but it's also one of the finest models I've ever seen. Get me an extension ladder, because it's the only way I'll reach that bar. Thumbs Up [tup]

Now, I am looking forward finally to some time at the bench to catch up to you all. I've had to work 8 out of the past 9 days, but I have 4 of the next 5 off, so hopefully I'll be able to show some progress in my builds.

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

jwb
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Posted by jwb on Monday, July 16, 2007 6:46 PM

Marc- that is a great looking Spitfire! Excellent paint, great subject matter- very nice.

I hope to get in some bench time on mine this week. 

Jon Bius

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Monday, July 16, 2007 4:46 PM

Hi all,

I actually got the green camo on my Mk.IX tonight! I did it freehand and I recon it looks OK.Thumbs Up [tup]

All I have to do next is the sky fuselage band and the blue panel for the noseart.

As for the other two builds......still correcting some mistakes on the Mk.47 and fighting all the way with the PRXIX, this one is not going well at the minute.......a lot of filling and sanding to do.Disapprove [V]

I'll get some pics up well I get the camera going again. See you later.Wink [;)]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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