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gzt
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Posted by gzt on Friday, March 7, 2008 11:11 AM

same prices but better selection and no shiping cost Smile [:)]  and I can touch first Smile [:)]

US$ is plunging so buying power is less and less .... but nobode says this hobby is cheap Evil [}:)]

getting back to Hurricane, I worked some details on the cockpit of my Polish Hurricane. Tonight I will paint the interior and mayeb this Weekend start putting cockpit together 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, March 7, 2008 10:51 AM

Darren- Sorry I missed your pics yesterday, bloody outstanding old chap! Big Smile [:D]

Greg- Thanks my friend!  I bet buying aftermarket stuff there is considerably cheaper than buying it here.  WHat kind of a price difference is there between buying it here and buying it there from a company like Eduard?

Frank 

 

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Friday, March 7, 2008 10:42 AM
 TANGO 1 wrote:

Hello all,

I have finally got the painting done on my Hurricane! Here is how she looks now.........

 

This is one nice looking Hurricane !!!!

Great painting and sanding ... invisible. Perfect 

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gzt
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Posted by gzt on Friday, March 7, 2008 10:39 AM

Sure Frank. I placed "maybe two" Smile [:)]

anyway, if you change your mind and decide to build a 303 instead of 306, than I can bring some decals Smile [:)] because I am flying to Warsaw at the end of this month (.... SHOPPING ... Eduard, Part, Aires, Karaya, Ardpol, Techmod ....Evil [}:)] and a lot of books and magazines Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, March 7, 2008 10:08 AM

Greg- I thought you probably had!  I am really looking forward to it, looks to be a good read. 

Also, would you mind changing my entry to just one Hurricane?  I don't know if I am up to building four.  MAYBE two... Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Frank 

 

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Friday, March 7, 2008 10:00 AM

in English and Polish Smile [:)]

It is originated on the book written by Zamoyski in early 90ties but 3x more details and facts and pictures.

This book inspired me to build all aircrafts flown by "Kosciuszko Squadron" since Fontleroy and Cooper in 1919 (Albatros - Eduard, Ansaldo Balilla - Karaya ) up to latest Mig29 (Academy) converted to Nato.

 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, March 7, 2008 8:35 AM
Greg- Have you read the book "A Question of Honor" about the pilots of 303 Sqdn?  I picked it up at my local libray and started it last night. Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Wednesday, March 5, 2008 3:37 PM

Hello all,

I have finally got the painting done on my Hurricane! Here is how she looks now.........

 

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by TANGO 1 on Saturday, March 1, 2008 5:57 PM

Hello Chaps!

Just a quick note form me......I've re-sprayed my Hurricane and hopefully when the masks come off it'll look all-right. I've notb been very well lately hence myn lack of progress reports, but I'm cooking on gas now and should be back on schedule soon!Wink [;)]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by Butz on Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:36 AM

Hey Martin,

 Well done on your Hurri... I really like the over all build and weathering job..!! Hats off my friend?!?!

Flaps up,

Mike

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:42 PM

Mike T.- looking forward to some WIP pics! Thumbs Up [tup]

Chris- Beautiful aircraft there, are those two 1/72?  They look AWESOME!!!

Frank 

 

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Posted by chris hall on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 2:29 PM

Thanks, Iffy. The two Spitfires are both 1/72. the one on the left, with the silver underside, is the Tamiya kit, with a 2-bladed prop from the old Hasegawa kit. The one on the right is the Airfix Spit Ia, with decals from the Encore re-boxing of the Heller Spit Ia/II.

References for underside colours, in particular, of RAF day fighters in the first year f the war are indeed difficult to find. there was a lot of variation. and Air Ministry orders were not infrequently ignored, or at least give a low priority, at squadron level. From May 1940, they had more important things to worry about. The only really relaible way is to find photos of the actual aircraft you're modelling.

As to the Hurricane, the panel that looks like a door on the starboard side of the cockpit isn't actually a door, in the same way that the similar panel on the port side of the Spitfire's cockpit is. It's a knock-out panel, for emergency use, when the pilot needs to get out of the plane quickly, taking his parachute with him. I'd have to check my references, but I don't think it had any door detail as such.

With very few exceptions, the best-known of which is probably the F-104, you get into a fighter aircraft's cockpit from the port side, because that's the way that a cavalryman mounts his horse.

Also, if you ever wanted to do a fabric wing Hurricane again, you might find life easier if you started with the Airfix kit, or Revell Gemany re-boxing (cheaper, better decals) of the Hasegawa kit, and used the Heritage Aviation

 http://www.heritageaviationmodelsltd.com/

resin fabric wing. They also do a white metal 2-bladed prop, as do Aeroclub, in resin. Specially since the CA kit seems to be OOP at the moment Smile [:)] .

Cheers,

Chris.

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Posted by iflyprops on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 2:12 PM

Thanks Chris. I recently found that out about underside color on the early Spits and Hurries. I have had trouble finding references with the British Colors though. Those are a pair of really great looking Spitfires you have there, also!

I'm away on work right now but have made some progress during my time off. The cockpit is about 75% done or so. This Classic Airframes kit is no Eduard or Tamiya kit, I have spent a lot of time just cleaning the parts up and trying to add some details that are blatantly missing. There is actually no door detail on the inside of the cockpit, which I was surprised about. So I am working on adding some of that detail. When I get back in town and have a chance to work a bit more on it I'll post more progress pictures!

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Posted by chris hall on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:24 AM
 
 iflyprops wrote:

 

 

Another stupid question...that I can't seem to find the answer for:

For early Hurricanes that are not sky, or black and white underneath, what color grey/white is it?

I am building a very early MK I from the 73sqn with the fixed pitch prop and no ventral fin. With decals on order from Iliad.

 Thanks again!

I'm pretty certain that the colour you're looking for is aluminium dope. This was the standard late-1930s colour for RAF fighters. Black and black/ white wings came in early in the war as an IFF aid for AA gunners:

I use Testors non-buffing aluminium metalizer for this, because it looks sufficiently different from real aluminium.

Cheers,

Chris.

 

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Posted by telsono on Monday, February 25, 2008 6:20 PM

Hello all, I haven't disappeared just two straight weeks of out of town business stuff. Last night I sealed the fuselage and attached the wings. Photos will come by the weekend.

Mike T.

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Posted by PaPa-John on Saturday, February 16, 2008 10:22 AM

Looks like everyone's projects are progressing nice.  Thumbs Up [tup].

Haven't heard from the LHS in regards to my order.  Quess I will have to call next week.  Oh, well that gives me the chance to work on a couple of others to get them out of the way so I can start on the group builds.

John

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Friday, February 15, 2008 1:52 PM

Hey iflyprops,

nice work on that I/P! Nice to follow your progress.Thumbs Up [tup]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by iflyprops on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 10:09 AM
Thanks for the heads up on that, I'll be sure to do lots of dry fitting!
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Posted by Luftwoller on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 9:58 AM

Looking good so far, One suggestion i would make is assemble the two halves of the fuz 1st and then insert the pit from beneath. Destructions say otherwise but its a fiddly old pit to try to fit to one side of the fuzz.

...Guy

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Posted by iflyprops on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 8:30 AM

Well, the Hurricane has finally been moved to the workbench (ie kitchen table, lol) and I have started some work on it. The work has mostly consisted of trying to fix Classic Airframes sloppy molding...flash as well as separating some resin parts from their sprues. I have managed to get the panel mostly done, except I did cut off the compass and building another, I am waiting on my interior green paint to come in the mail so don't get upset when its all black Wink [;)]. I also scratchbuilt a new venturi as the one supplied with the kit was poor to say the least. I also was able to hollow it out as it should be. I also opened the aft radiator door slightly and will add the control rods when I get it attached to the fuselage. In addition to that I also took the "floor" out, removing excess plastic between the heel plates on the cockpit "floor" for a more scale-like appearance. Anyway, here are a few preliminary photos, fire away!

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Monday, February 11, 2008 2:14 PM
Nice work Guy! A very unusual scheme very well done. Sounds like it was a trickly build-you did good.Wink [;)]Thumbs Up [tup]
Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by Luftwoller on Monday, February 11, 2008 1:10 PM

I know, i know. Its not german. But its not English either LOL. The decals were the nearest thing to swastika's that i could find.

Seriously though. I like odd ball schemes like this, so it fitted the bill perfectly. Thanks all for looking. Im glad you liked it.

...Guy

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Posted by dupes on Monday, February 11, 2008 11:49 AM
Guy - came out great!! Cool [8D] Only one little comment - the Hurricane was a British aircraft. Seriously. Like, from Britain! Laugh [(-D]
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Posted by Daywalker on Monday, February 11, 2008 10:54 AM

Darren- Thanks for the tip on the Hasegawa kit's wheelbays, I'll be sure to test fit, test fit, TEST FIT!!! Big Smile [:D]

Guy- Excellent work my friend!  Sounds like you had your hands full with that one.  You pulled it off beautifully. Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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Posted by iflyprops on Monday, February 11, 2008 7:51 AM

Looks great!

I am about to start that kit as well. I noticed the same thing about the flash, pretty sloppy if you ask me. But, unfortunately its the only model with the rag wing Banged Head [banghead].

I am building a very early MKI, L1568, with no ventral strake, watts fixed pitch propeller, kidney exhausts, venturi etc, as seen in No 73 Squadron in 1938. I am using Iliad decals for the model. Here is a photo from Squadron's Walk Around, and the Iliad decal reference sheet.

Here goes nothing...

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Posted by Bodge on Monday, February 11, 2008 7:12 AM
Guy thats looks great, ive got to do an aircraft soon and i will come to u for tips, ps dont u go to work?
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Posted by Luftwoller on Monday, February 11, 2008 7:06 AM

Hi all, Ive finally gotten round to finishing my Classic Airframes Hurricane. This is one of those builds that just took a little longer than expected. At the CA factory there appears to be a vacancy in the post of flash removal. Almost all the smaller parts come with HEAVY flash and need a fair bit of time to make them look good. Apart from that the kit was pretty good. There were resin bits, vacform bits and pretty nice decals too. It didnt come with any seatbelts so i made them with foil and a couple of old PE bits (For a Tank LOL). I also attempted to recreate the doped on gunport covers. Not sure if i like them or if the Finish versions even had them. Now for the couple of downers in the kit. Assembling the wing took a bit of effort as the resin u/c bay needed the pouring stub removed and, with mine anyway, i needed to sand it down till i could almost see through it. Otherwise it catches the bottom of the pit. When the top part of the wing went on, it was about 1mm too long. More sanding. Next bad bit was the U/C legs were very badly moulded and when fixed in place, had a 5 Deg list.

Finally the biggest downer were the awfull, awfull instruction.

Ah well, this is what modellings all about, right? If it was too easy we wouldnt keep buying more and more. Enough wittering heres the photos. Hope you enjoy.

Questions, comments and Critisisms welcome.

...Guy

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Saturday, February 9, 2008 10:06 AM

Greg,

Good call on the wing assembly-check the internal wheel bay parts too-I suspect that they are too thick and in turn adds to the fit problems. I am going to sand mine down a good bit before I fit it next time around. 

Looking forward to seeing your progress.Thumbs Up [tup]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
gzt
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Posted by gzt on Saturday, February 9, 2008 10:00 AM

OK Guys, I just got my Hurricane Mk I (Hasegawa 1/48) box moved from the stash to my work area Smile [:)]

Looking at Darren's struggle, I will stick to my regular routine to glue top wing halfs first. I did it with P-40B, than Spitfire MkIXc and P-47 (Tamiya and Hasegawa) and i am pleased with this process. It is much easier to sand "AWAY" from the wing root  Smile [:)]

I think I am going with Eduard PE only. Hasegawa has pretty nice cockpit and just few enhancements will do the job (unless I change my mind and get those Legend's parts Smile [:)] .... Propeller [8-]

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Saturday, February 9, 2008 9:52 AM
 Daywalker wrote:

Darren,

I am having the same problem with my AM Dauntless.  When I glued the wing on, it was ever-so-slightly out of alignment which means everything attached after that needs to be slightly adjusted to fit properly.  A real PITA! Banged Head [banghead]

Sorry to hear that Frank, I really hate it when that happens-at least you will have the pleasure of knowing that it won't get the better of you!Mischief [:-,]Big Smile [:D]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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