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Posted by Reload on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 7:21 PM

This is better.

 

Brent

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 I mean, I had fast motor cars and fast motor bikes, and when I wasn't crashing airplanes, I was crashing motor bikes. It's all part of the game. — Sir Harry Broadhurst, RAF, 12 victories WWII

 

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Posted by iflyprops on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:02 AM

I bought the Eduard RAF seatbelt set and it includes the Sutton Harness as well as the "punch" (it may have been twist, I'm not sure)to release type. When was one type used over the other or were they used simultaneously? I am building an early MK I with the fixed pitch prop.

 Thanks!

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Posted by Daywalker on Wednesday, March 12, 2008 12:10 AM

Poppie,

The Falcon canopy sets include the canopies for all of the listed aircraft, and they are quite nice.  I have the Spitfire set, but have only used one.  A place I have had great luck with for finding aftermarket parts for Hurricanes is Sprue Brothers.  Just type in "Hurricane" and you will find quite a few things.  Good luck! Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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Posted by gzt on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:32 PM

Thanks Frank. I think you are right. I looked into my books and basicaly Rotol and DeHaviland were a vit oversized for the engine cawling. Looks to me like an inch on the radius !

So I think I will be OK if I use the one shown before.

enough for tonight :) 

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Posted by Daywalker on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:08 PM

Greg,

I agree, the nose profile doesn't look quite right.  Although, some of the early Hurricanes used Spitfire spinners as there was a shortage of the "correct" ones for a time.  Here's a profile of one with a SPitfire (I believe) spinner:

Frank 

 

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:12 PM

Thanks Brent. A closeup of the nose would be nice.

I am searching myself for a clean side shot of the nose with diferent props. The classic Airframes kit is a real hassle.

I thought I did OK with the fuselage (almost no seams) but now the spinner is just driving me nuts. I stopped believing the instruction for some time already. I never saw worse than this one yet. 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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Posted by Reload on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 9:39 PM
 gzt wrote:

a little problem...

I am looking for a side view of Mk I with Rotol prop. Why ? here we go ...I am not sure if the fit presented on this picture is correct. Classic Airframes kit is ... pretty poor quality and instructions simply ... s..ck  

 I had a look through my Hurricane in action book and I found this info.

Seems to me that the extream contours of your nose do not look right. Then again, I'm no aircraft historian mind you!

If you should need a closer view, let me know.

Cheers

Brent

1 VP - PPCLI 89-92 A Coy RED DEVILS

 I mean, I had fast motor cars and fast motor bikes, and when I wasn't crashing airplanes, I was crashing motor bikes. It's all part of the game. — Sir Harry Broadhurst, RAF, 12 victories WWII

 

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Posted by iflyprops on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 9:34 PM

If anyone is looking for a good, free, image editing program check out paint.net. I put it on my laptop and have photoshop on my desktop and it has much of the same functionality. All I need at least. Best of all, its free!

On the Hurricane front. I'll take some pics tommorow, but my cockpit is coming along. Starting to put all the pieces where they are supposed to go, and cursing at Classic Airframes all the way. The resin parts are top notch, but the injection molding is terrible, as are the instructions.

Keep Pluggin' away.

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Posted by Reload on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 9:17 PM
 Poppie wrote:
 Reload wrote:

Poppie,

I am asuming you are in the CF? Been a long time since I have seen a cornflake (refering to your avitar) let alone worn one. That brings back memories of Cornwallis.......good grief...LOL

Cornwallis, or should I say "Cornholeis", is a long way behind me too, but I'm retired out of CF;s Maritime, as a Padre. Long story.  Enlisted as an ordinary seaman, got my commission,  but served as an exchange officer with US forces in the brown water navy, got shrapnel in my spine, 100% disability. It was funny for awhile because I was drawing full disability, and full pay and allowances while I attended grad school and seminary then continued to collect disability and full pay as Capt!! I really and truly regretted having to finally have to take full retirement as things just got too hard to handle. Couldn't take morphine and do the job too. Ah well, as a veteran, I'm treated very, very, well.

I here you on the Cornholeis.........was there in 89, then went infantry, borne, and JT in Pet. Got out in 94. It is good to hear that my old home land is finaly treating it's vetrans well, it wasn't that way for me. Down in the US, the patriatism and show of support for the troops is impressive to say the least. Even I am treated well, and as an armed gaurd I work closley with alot of military types.......great hunting buddies!!

Anyway, welcome to the board, and all I can say is go over alot of these posts, the work found here is top of the class. The info and helpfullnes is terrific, and the chaps ain't to bad either.

Brent

1 VP - PPCLI 89-92 A Coy RED DEVILS

 I mean, I had fast motor cars and fast motor bikes, and when I wasn't crashing airplanes, I was crashing motor bikes. It's all part of the game. — Sir Harry Broadhurst, RAF, 12 victories WWII

 

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:58 AM

a little problem...

I am looking for a side view of Mk I with Rotol prop. Why ? here we go ...

 

I am not sure if the fit presented on this picture is correct. Classic Airframes kit is ... pretty poor quality and instructions simply ... s..ck  

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:28 AM
I hope it will Smile [:)] but I messed up the seatbelts ... nothing I can fix now. I will have some spare parts Evil [}:)]

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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Posted by dupes on Tuesday, March 11, 2008 10:13 AM
 gzt wrote:

Since I am using Cannon Digital Rebel, my picutrs are about 3-4 MB each. After resizing it with PSP, each has only 70-80kB - very reasonable. You have to use proper jpeg compression allowing to shrink the file. 

This step is essential to allow the poor forum members who are saddled only with dialup internet to see pics (or any threads in general, for that matter). Sadly, I'm one of them. Boohoo [BH]

Oh, the bird's looking good btw, GZT! Big Smile [:D]

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Monday, March 10, 2008 10:59 PM

Poppie, I tell you how I am doing it.

I use Paint Shop Pro - it is a pretty nice and relatively small program (I used it since it was a shareware few yearts ago).

I like this program because is really fast and small. It does not take half of the hard disk space and 2 GB memory to run Smile [:)] (I exadurate a bit but you can see my point here) and it is a fraction of the Photoshop price.

I download pictures from my camera to a MODEL directory and I pick few inpurpose of publishing into photobucket. I copy those few to the directory (MODELS_PICTS_PUBLISHED) and than I open PaintShopPro and RESIZE each image to 800x600 (or 1024x800)

Since I am using Cannon Digital Rebel, my picutrs are about 3-4 MB each. After resizing it with PSP, each has only 70-80kB - very reasonable. You have to use proper jpeg compression allowing to shrink the file. 

Files from this directory are taken than to photobucket and published on this forum 

If you set your camera for this resolution than you will still have the largest jpeg file due to limited compression (and high quality required by the camera)

I hope it helps.

 

I just went through fitting the wing into Classic Airframes fuselage ... including resin wheel wells .... what a pain. I think there will be a lot of sanding and fabric surfraces will not help doing it ...

 

 

 

 

I focused on a good fit at the root area hoping sanding the leading edge is simpler than root Smile [:)] I may not need much putty anywhere to finish this bird. 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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Posted by Poppie on Monday, March 10, 2008 9:38 PM
Thanks Greg. I imagine it would take a long time for some of the guys to download.  I think, and I'll have to check this out, but 800 x 600 would translate to 3.2M resolution on a digital cameral.  I can go down to 3M, then 1M then email, but as you saw from the first pic I sent at 1M they come out pretty small.  Mind if I try one at 3.2M and you can let me know if it sets a happy medium.  I really don't know how to translate megapixels from the camera to resolution on the computer - trial and error.
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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, March 10, 2008 5:55 PM

Poopie

If you have never used any after market stuff before start off slowly.  A few resin part and/or some PE stuff.

 Take a look at Ultracast for some simple resin part replacement that are top notch. Roam around the Eduard site. They have lots of stuff for the Hurricane and it will tell you if it is for Hasegawa or Tamiya or whatever.

Marc  

gzt
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Posted by gzt on Monday, March 10, 2008 4:12 PM

here are some parts

http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=EU49252

I am not sure if you need any for Hasegawa kit. It is aretty well done and only thing what need is a set of seatbelts and possibly IP (but in Hasegawa and Tamiya kit I just drybrush the IP and it looks pretty good (to me Smile [:)])

so, any additioanl parts may be too much Smile [:)] 

Hurricane had a variaty of canopies made. With and w/o armor. 

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Posted by Poppie on Monday, March 10, 2008 3:03 PM

AFTERMARKET PARTS:

I was looking at Squadron and found some listings that have me a bit confused; for instance there is a listing for FALCON in New Zealand for Canopy Sets. Thing is it gives a long listing of of aircraft, Hawker Seafury, Spitfire, Typhoon..........etc. but doesn't list any of the kit mfg's. Does that mean that for the quoted price of $8.99 you will get canopies that will fit all those aircraft irregardless of mfg? Nor does it give the scale. I find this confusing. Does that mean you get a 'grab bag' of assorted aircraft canopies of various scales or is something like this a thing to stay away from?

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Posted by Poppie on Monday, March 10, 2008 2:45 PM

TITLE: Aftermarket products.

I know I'm really niave, but, please bear with me as I'm trying to learn my way around this hobby. I've been looking at the Squadron catalogue and trying to find aftermarket parts for the Hasagewa Hurricane and not having any luck. Should I be looking elsewhere? By model number instead of name? I've ordered my next Hurricane (already!) and I intend to try doing a little bit of 'sprucing up'on my next build. Could I ask your advice on what would be the easiest area, or should I say parts, for an amateur to start learning on. I don't want to see my money go down the drain just because I bit off more than I could chew.  I do believe in that old saying:"Make haste slowly", I just want to be ready.  I figure if I order now, I can start trying to picture things in my head and figuring out just how I'm going to do things. It's going to be about 3 -4 weeks before my kit comes in so I have lots of time to catalogue browse, - I just don't know the names of the catalogues or web-sites.  Would you guys please give me a boost?  Thanks again, and again, and again,  Poppie

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Posted by Poppie on Monday, March 10, 2008 11:41 AM
 Reload wrote:

Poppie,

I am asuming you are in the CF? Been a long time since I have seen a cornflake (refering to your avitar) let alone worn one. That brings back memories of Cornwallis.......good grief...LOL

Cornwallis, or should I say "Cornholeis", is a long way behind me too, but I'm retired out of CF;s Maritime, as a Padre. Long story.  Enlisted as an ordinary seaman, got my commission,  but served as an exchange officer with US forces in the brown water navy, got shrapnel in my spine, 100% disability. It was funny for awhile because I was drawing full disability, and full pay and allowances while I attended grad school and seminary then continued to collect disability and full pay as Capt!! I really and truly regretted having to finally have to take full retirement as things just got too hard to handle. Couldn't take morphine and do the job too. Ah well, as a veteran, I'm treated very, very, well.

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, March 10, 2008 11:31 AM
Perfecto!!Big Smile [:D]

Marc  

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Posted by Poppie on Monday, March 10, 2008 11:30 AM
Any better guys?
"This is a gentle place if I but make it so." Poppie
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Posted by Poppie on Monday, March 10, 2008 11:29 AM

Ok, now that I've changed the batteries, reset the camera (had forgotten how!) lets see if I can do this again: This should be the image at 5M:

 

Hope this worked

"This is a gentle place if I but make it so." Poppie
gzt
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Posted by gzt on Monday, March 10, 2008 11:11 AM

Poppie,

when you take a picutre set the resolution whatever you can (Higher = better) however for the purpose of this forum the 800x600 is plenty - 1024x800 is max what I do for FSM forum. Anything larger will tkae a lot of time to download - not practical

WHen getting the link from photobucket use the last (fourth ) link - it has already place a picutre into the IMG tag brackets - ready to paste into a post

 

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Posted by Poppie on Monday, March 10, 2008 10:58 AM
It's tiny because I took it with my camera set at  1M. I'll see how much I can blow it up.
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Posted by Poppie on Monday, March 10, 2008 10:56 AM

OMIGOD!  First time too!   Should be rolling and keeping up from here.  Thanks again guys.

I appreciate the info on this kit being a "Tropical" export. I don't want to put out any money on aftermarket parts on something that isn't right from the get-go. I think I'll make this model up OOB for the sake of learning and practice, I've only made about 6 x 1/48 kits, for heavens sake, and order another kit that I can do some decent work on. After all, I've got a year.  So, one handed and all, here I go........and let's just see what happens. Should be as much fun as watching a "one armed paper hanger"  -  to think, I used to laugh at that!

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, March 10, 2008 10:54 AM
Poppie   the pic is there but it is really tiny.

Marc  

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Posted by Poppie on Monday, March 10, 2008 10:49 AM

Thanks guys,

Ok if I run a couple of tests to see if I can get this picture posting done right?

This is supposed to be a picture of the box:

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"This is a gentle place if I but make it so." Poppie
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Posted by PaPa-John on Monday, March 10, 2008 10:18 AM

Well, just snooping to see how everyong is doing.  Great progress by everying. 

Was at the LHS on Saturday to check on my order an pickup some paint for two projects I have on the go.  Low and behold, the owner advised that my order is not in yet.  Almost two months.  His paint supply is really low.  He checked last week and the company stated that they should have two shipments in in about a weeks time.  He hopes the order will be in there along with his paints.

Welcome on board Poppie

PaPa-John

John

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Posted by dupes on Monday, March 10, 2008 10:13 AM

Hey Poppie - did a bit of research, that "W" sprue you have to model the Finnish AF bird (different prop and spinner) appears to be more in common with a Tropical Hurricane or one of the other export versions - may not be accurate for a British plane(?). Other than that, you should be able to fit any AM that's designed for a Hasegawa Mk.I Hurricane no problem as that's the only alteration.

As for "older" or "end run", you should know that kit 09682, the latest Has-Hurricane (‘Mediterranean Theatre’) is made from the exact same molds as the kit you have...just with a newer box, newer box art, and different decals. Wink [;)]

Hope this helps! Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by gzt on Monday, March 10, 2008 10:11 AM

yes, you have a diferent kit. I use Classic Airframes kit. It is the only "early" Mk I available on the market in this scale (as far as I know)

Hasegawa has a very nice kit - I plan to make one for my 303 Squdron project. Hasegawa kit is pretty well detailed and nicely engineered.

Not too many people use decals Out of the box. Most of the time decals are aftermarket. I use mostly Techmod decals due to my interest in Polish aviation. 

 To put your pictures on the post you have to provide a link to your picutre. The easiest way is to get an account at photobucket.com, upload pictures to photobucket.com and than use the link to place it within your post here.

for example:

is simply the tags "IMG" in square []

image link

and than a closing tag "/IMG" also in brackets []

 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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