Hawker Hurricane GB

Thanks Marc!  So they just pass under the seat to the floor?  Couldn't tell if they went outboard of the seat along with the outer frame parts, or passed under.  Thanks again!

Also, great tip on the wing joint fix.  Do you have a photo of the top join?  Just want to see how nice it looks, and to inspire me to get it to fit properly!

wing_nut

Good luck with your build!. i haven't been in Piscataway in many rears since my college days at Rutgers, I used to live in Edison during my grad student times.

Mike T.

Marc: it is a very good tip to deal with Hase "stupid" joint

Mike: great site, I wish I have it for my Mk I , next one coming 

wing-nut

Interior Green, but i have heard of some in aluminum as well. Just found this site. some good interior shots!

http://www.warmkessel.com/jr/flying/td/jd/73.jsp

Mike T.

Frank, I don’t have a pic but after the bottom and side where together,  I glued the IP to the brace and while the joint was still a tiny bit soft, glued the whole thing in place and pushed the braces down ‘til the touched the bottom and the IP was still more or less straight up.  Then I put into one side of the fuselage just to make sure everything was lined up right.  If the angled supports don’t quite touch the floor it no biggie.  They disappear under the seat anyway.

Here is what I did with the “stupid joint”  Filled it and sanded it flat.  Then round the edge of some thick plastic card and glued some 400 wet/dry to it.  Roll it first so when you fold it over it doesn’t crack.  Using some Dymo tape as a guide I sanded the grooves.  These were softened with a small tube of rolled 400 grit following the groove The pic with the grooves is before they were softened a little.  

OK, Hasegawa 1/48 Hurricane builders:

Can anyone supply a photo of how the downward sloping supports off of the front of the I.P. fit into the assembly?  Mine were broken off of the I.P. from some rough handling (not me!) and the instructions don't really show where they attach to.  If anyone could supply a photo of how it fits in there, I would sure appreciate it!

Hey dupes...Since you are always answering my armor questions... I can finally repay a bit.

The short answer is yes.  The curved section between the fuselage side and the upper wing surface is a fairing.  This can be removed, usually to get to cable or hydraulic access.  Without the fairing in place, the wing/fuselage joint would be 90 degrees, more or less. 

Here is shot of a P-39 with the fairing removed...

http://data3.primeportal.net/hangar/scott_dimmick/p-39q/images/p-39q_17_of_17.jpg 

Greg;

 I must have been lucky, that gap between the wings and the fuselage was very minor and a little Tamiya putty, and Gunze Liquid Putty did the trick with of course some sanding. my only trouble was that the fit was very tight and the edgfes didn't want to poop up to match at first. 

Before I attach the flying surfaces I have to bevel the joining area to get a proper fit. The Ultracast flying surfaces match up perfectly, especially the length.

Mike T.

As I have one of these Has-icanes in my stash, question for you guys - is there SUPPOSED to be a panel line in the wing/fuselage joint, just not a major gap?

Surprised the fit is so terrible...although that seam location in the middle of the fabric on the underside is pretty bone-headed!

Ok guys,

I did get some work done on my Hasegawa 1/48 Hurricane I. Here are some photos of my bird. The cockpit is partially Ultracast (seat and armor back) and Aires (balance of cockpit). I'll be adding the control surfaces prior to adding the green portion of the camoflage. Its not been too bad of a build so far. I added the knockout panel and tried to match it to the body as best that I could, It may need a little touch up work.

Mike T.

Mark, Greg,

Looks like you lads are doing some good work there.

If its any consolation, I have had problems too............I don't think that I have done a great job sorting out the Hasegawa fabric seam, but its good enough for me.

wing_nut wrote:

So, I finally got off my fat keester and got my camera. Here is one of the wing joints. The sand & test fit cycle seemed like it would never end. The other pic is in the "come on Hasegawa, use a lilttle bit of all that brain power at your disposal and not put a seam in such a stupid place" category.

Yup, I could not believe they did it ! To make it right will take a lot of fine sanding ... OUCH , I am glad I did not start with this kit. Let us know how you are going to do it.

So, I finally got off my fat keester and got my camera. Here is one of the wing joints. The sand & test fit cycle seemed like it would never end.

The other pic is in the "come on Hasegawa, use a lilttle bit of all that brain power at your disposal and not put a seam in such a stupid place" category.

here is my Classic Airframes 1/48 (future L2048)

it took me a long time to put fuselage together. All crooked and twisted. A lot of tenX7 and superglue ...

It took me quite few hours to put fuselage together. 

I looked into Hasegawa kit and ... one thing I can not understand: why the heck they made a subdivision in the middle of "fabric" section . I have no idea how to make it look even close to "good". This will be my (when I start this kit) primery objective to avoid sanding in this region.

(Bottom side of the fus/wing connection) 

gzt wrote:

What kit do you work on ? Hasegawa ??? I though Classic Airframes is awful kit ...

Yep, the Hasegawa kit.  Looks like the fuse joints and the wing-to-fuselage joints are going to take some work. 

I just finished sanding my Classic airframes MK I

but... it may not be over yet

What kit do you work on ? Hasegawa ??? I though Classic Airframes is awful kit ... 

TANGO 1 wrote:

You can say that again! My kit has been bloody awful!!

Yikes!  You're makin' me nervous here... Looks like lots of filing, sanding and fitting ahead.  Ah, well...it'll be worth it to finally have a Hurri on the shelf.

You can say that again! My kit has been bloody awful!!

In the meantime, I have defeated the little and I am now glad to report that my decals have been sealed in with a nice gloss coat. Tomorrow, the weathering begins!

Sure what the heck

I just looked atthe roster and the amount of Has. kits beingbuilt.  Looks like there will be a lot of wing root puttying going on

wing_nut wrote:

... my extremely long run of aircrat modles with ZERO putty on the wing roots is still going to be intact.

Hmmm... Can I send mine over to you to fit the wings for me?   Looks like the gaps as supplied as HUGE!!! 

a "no pic" progress report... due to extreme laziness as I don't want to walk out to the truck to get my camera.  Got the wings glued on finally.  LOTS of fine tuning with the sading stick to get the seam gaps to go away but it looks like my extremely long run of aircrat modles with ZERO putty on the wing roots is still going to be intact.

Iflyprops- The early Hurri's should have the Sutton Harness, as opposed to the twist to release one.  HTH!

Poppie- That seat SHOULD fit any kit, though a little trimming or modification may be necessary to get it to fit properly into some cockpits.  Ultracast really seems to favor Tamiya and Hasegawa kits, so fitment into one of those would probably be easiest.  As for the Hasegawa Hurricane kits, they are the same kits with a different sprue or two to differentiate between the different versions on the aircraft.  For instance, Ultracast makes a couple of different exhaust manifold sets that will fit all of the Hasegawa Hurricanes, but you must make sure to get the one that is correct for the Mark that you are building.  If you could tell me which kit you are going to build, I would be happy to help you pick out the parts you need.

Hard to tell from that Poppie, if they will fit. Usually they will say if it is produced for a certain kit or not. If there were a fit problem, this would be a great, and relativley easy way to break into the "modifying" part of our hobby.

Brent

I was looking around the Ultracast site, trying to learn how to read the catalogue and find things and this ad caught my attention as I have a couple of early Spit I's I want to do.  Does this ad mean that the seat will fit any kit so long as its a 1/48 scale kit?  I noticed on the Sprue Brothers catalogue that they had several parts for 1/48 Hurricane Mk I and they gave a Has #

Does this mean the part will only fit that particular Hasegawa kit or will it fit any Hasegawa Hurricane Mk I kit?

Sorry to be asking so many questions but the learning curve is a little bit steep at this point.

PAINT SHOP PRO,

Thanks for the lesson Greg. I've downloaded the 30 day trial of Paint Shop Pro and have started to play arouond with it. I'll make sure my pics are down to a reasonable size, once I have some pics worth sending, so I don't jam up someone's connection. The price right now is $80 US but it looks like its worth it.  I used to have Corel Draw 3 and paid a couple of hundred for it and it didn't do half of what this little program does. My wife should have fun doctoring up the pics of the g/kids as well!

Thanks for the leads on other aftermarket parts guys. I'm going to have to be really careful with what I buy given that I have only 30 days to raise the bucks for Paint Shop, but, like I said, I'm going to use this 'Finnish Air Force'  kit as a learning project and then try and 'spruce up' a 'regular Hurricane'.  Where do most of you guys get your decals from? Shipping and Handling charges to Canada almost double the price of anything I buy from the states so, again, I have to learn to shop carefully and get as much in at one time as I can to save shipping costs.

Thanks,

obviously the spinners were made for Spits and those were a bit to large for Hurricanes.

I am going to sand a bit my Mk I and possibly sprawy first color tonight ...