Hawker Hurricane GB

Well folks, I have to say, I am blessed with the most amazing wife a man could ask for. Besides being my best friend, she is a modelers best friend as well.

Here I am working on making my Hurricane OOB as I couldn;t afford the PE and resin that I wanted for it. My better half comes downstairs today and says here honey, I have a present for you. I open it up to find :

True Details wheels

Eduard colored PE

and Sqaudron vac-u-form canopies

I just sat there blubbering on like an idiot....but I did mangae to give her a kiss and a ty.

I just couldn't ask for anything more.

Brent

Daywalker wrote:

wing_nut wrote: ... I want to try this on a 1/32 scale Frank. A 1/32 scale me?  WOOHOO!!!  That's gonna look cool.  Although, the 1/32 scale opti-visor could be tricky to fabricate.

Yeah what am I thinking????  I can barely handle the 1:1 running around.... now I want to make a little one to get into even more trouble??? But on the positive side.... a 1/32 you could hand deliver the stuff we send back and forth.  Ridingthe vac-tube must be a blast

wing_nut wrote:

... I want to try this on a 1/32 scale Frank.

A 1/32 scale me?  WOOHOO!!!  That's gonna look cool.  Although, the 1/32 scale opti-visor could be tricky to fabricate.

Thanks Marc,

I too am going to have to try that, IJN planes are PERFECT subject for that. Look for3ard to seeing it. Thanks for the belt info.

Brent

Thnaks Brent.  Glad your are felling better.

Read about this technique over in the the armor section.  Base camo is enamel paint, let dry.   2 light coats of hairspray, let dry… whatever my daughter had in the bathroo  Top coat is Tamiya white.  Let dry for about 20-30 minutes.  Take a stiff(ish) brush, dip in water and start ”brushing” the surface with the water.  The paint will start to just flake away.  PAT IT DRY with a paper towel  If you wipe it a lot more will peel off.

When I am done building tanks... I want to try this on a 1/32 scale Frank.  The green paint over some Alclad II... should make for a nice peeled Japanese fighter.

For the belts.... an Eduard PE 1/48 scale belt is about 3/64 or .047"  If you go a hair under 1/16" or a hair over 1mm you should be fine.

wing_nut wrote:

For doing peeling paint... the hairspray method is the poo

Not sure if I missed something in the thread while I was sick,(besides the link I put up on the last page that was already up a few pages back......) or if this is something I have not heard of yet. What is the "hairspray" method?? It turned out bloody marvalous and is one of the best results i have personaly seen, well done.

QUESTION - for seat belts made of masking tape, what widths do you all use for the different scales?

Brent

wing_nut wrote:

Thanks guys.  A question though.  How worn do you reckon the red stars would have been? I wanna say I have read some place that they kind of kept the insigania in pretty good condition for recognition purposes.  Anyone have a photo of a really beat up Russin bird?

Marc-

I have some photos of a Russian P-39 that they drug out of a lake a few years ago.  I can scan and email them to you if you like.

Marc,

great job with this one !

Brent- I like it!  It really looks worn, and judging from the story about their Hurri's it should look that way.  Well done!

Poppie- That's great news!  Glad to hear your hand is still working, and you're able to get started on your build.

Marc- Dang, that's really cool!  I've played around with that technique as well, but haven't used it on a finished model as of yet.  Looks like yours is coming along nicely!

Poppie that's great news.  Depending onthe kit and hte waythe pit fits in you sometime install the pit assembley after the fuselage is together.  I find it is easier to "center" that way sometimes.

WOW doe sthe "new" AB spray nice.  What a differnece the new head and needle make.  You do have to kind of get used to it all over again though.  Had to play around with pressure and volume to get the camo pattern right. For doing peeling paint... the hairspray method is the poo

Camo sprayed and the hairspray applied.

Here it has the whitewash applied

And the whitewash worn/peeled away. 

Hurricane Build Badge - figured it out! Duh!

WAHOO!!!! The doc took off the big splint from my right hand yesterday. I can move all my fingers and have a fair amount of grasp. A bit sore if I over do it and everything needs a good spray of WD40 to get the stiffness out but, all in all, I'm back in the game. They'll take the rest of the hardware out in about 3 weeks but who cares - I'm back doing what I like to do. So, I'm going to start working on the pit and framework tubing this a.m.  I always heard that you should spray all the small parts first then assemble, but I saw that you guys apparently assembled the tubework and frame work first, then painted things up.  I was thinking of assembling the framework, armour stop and seat (all that are indicated the same green OOB) spray paint the finished assemby, do some touch up and weathering, and then attach the IP and glue the completed unit to the side of the fuselage.    What's this I hear of installing the pit by going in through the hole in the bottom of the fuselage once the two sides are glued and sanded?

Just checking out my options here. Gosh, its good to be back!

Well, we are coming along. Through my research, I have read the the Rumanain  Hurricanes showed the effects of aging and the weather especially whithin in the cockpit. Apearently they wore pretty fast due to their only being 12 of them and they were used most frequently. SO, I have been piddling around with some oil burnt siena washes, silver dry brushing, rust washes, and then some more manipulating of the washes when almost dry. For some reason, the washes show up a bit darker on film then they do under light. Oh well, you can get the jist of it from these. As I said above, I made the mistake of painting them american interior green instead of British. I used the AM color as the base, and then went and did the BR green. This is my first time using washes like this, and the extra stuff I did. Usually I just do a panel wash so comments and sugestions welcome.

Cheers

Brent

Before

after

Cool link Brent, thanks!

I think you've got it, but here's another one from Ultracast.

Reload wrote:

I would love to do his mount one day, he is going through his boxes trying to find his log book to let me know which one he flew, for both the Hurrie and the spit, and his markings and kill totals. I believe he had 4 with 2 probables and a damage to a H111. If I remember correctly, the others were 2 109's, and 2 stukas, and can't remember the probables. He flew with Johnie Johnson, and a few other Canucks. He also flew with Buzz Buerling for a while.

That's why i couldn't remember the probables....my mistake. My dad told me tonight that the 4 was with 2 probables.

Thanks for the pics of the seat. Now I am going to say that they have the belts laying up across the back of the seat correct? It is a wierd looking set up for belts. That is the O2 hose right.

*EDIT*  I think I have it figured out now. I found this site,

http://spitfiresite.com/reference/variants-technology/2008/03/sutton-harness.htm

OK, there is a piece that comes out of the middle hole on the seat, as well as there are the straps that travel back through the armor plate to the cable, correct? The straps with the holes are where the locking pin goes in place. Hmmmmm.........I think I am going to have to make my own here as my budget for this build came to a halt after tax time....man did we get hammered. Both my wife's and my companies had us down for WAY to many deductions....feeling it now. ANyway, I am going to have to leave out the PE, and other parts I was going to add. ALrighty then.....now the seat harness makes sense....time to continue.

thanks for the help

Brent

Brent,

Here's a link to Ultracast's website showing a Hurricane seat with the Sutton harness (which would be appropriate for a Mk.I) in place.

Marc- Glad to hear you got your AB problems sorted, nothing worse than an AB which doesn't spray properly!

Greg- I have read great things about the Iwatas, but have never tried one.  I use Badgers exclusively, and have had great luck with my 200 and 100LG.

Marc, glad to hear your AB probs are solved.........it can be frusterating and I feel your pain...and relief!! 

So here I am, sitting at my table, getting ready to weather the seat, armor, and tubing frame when I can hear my Grandfather's voice....."YOU DAFT SOD" I come back to reality to realize that my British interior green looked a heck of alot like American interior green.....DOH... ..........ah well, the darker green made for some nice shading once I got the right color on there........

Now that is drying, the instrument panel turned out pretty good. I used a satin black Krylon spray can, with silver artist pencil details, and a bit of red. FOr the glass, I tried window glue, and future, but I have found something 100 times better!!! I picked it up at Michaels Craft store and it is called "Aleene's" Paper Glaze. It is found with all the other glues, epoxy, and super glues. It does not shrink, and dries crystal hard, and glass clear. For around $3, can't go wrong. I will never go back. Here is the finished deal....comments / suggestions welcome.

OH, and I will be painting the tubing green by the way...and adding the gun sight...

Brent

Marc, thats great news.

 I am still searching for a perfect AB (not too happy about badger360) and I think I found one. I just got back from Barnes&Noble and brought Model Airplane International (March 2008). There is an article about Iwata AB (HP-BH with MAC). Reading this article was like a somebody made what I asked for . That "Somebody" is asking for a bit too much . Anyone here uses this AB ?

Reload wrote:

IDo you happen to know what config of belts did the MK I have? I was under the impression that they had the over the top of seat through the armor plate. Hope so, cause that is how I was planning on doing mine.

Me too, and its too late for me to change it as I already glued the fuselage and wings together... Oh well...

I would love to do his mount one day, he is going through his boxes trying to find his log book to let me know which one he flew, for both the Hurrie and the spit, and his markings and kill totals. I believe he had 4 with 2 probables and a damage to a H111. If I remember correctly, the others were 2 109's, and 2 stukas, and can't remember the probables. He flew with Johnie Johnson, and a few other Canucks. He also flew with Buzz Buerling for a while.

My hurrie I am doing for this build is one of 12 built and sent to Rumania. I believe on the first or second page of this thread, I posted a picture and info on the bird I am doing.

Do you happen to know what config of belts did the MK I have? I was under the impression that they had the over the top of seat tthrough the armor plate. Hope so, cause that is how I was planning on doing mine.

Brent,

Very cool about your Grandfather, are you gonna build yours in his markings?

As for the seat question, yes it is an oval opening in the back of the seat.  It is where parts of the seatbelt come through for the "Sutton" type shoulder harness.

I just recieved this email from my grandfather who flew hurries in the BOB and Spits MKIX over Normandy.

http://www.warmkessel.com/jr/flying/td/jd/73.jsp

 Enjoy

Brent

OK. I'm working on the office now, and I am searching my reference pics and aircraft resource center and am stuck on the seat. Molded onto the back of the seat is a small oval in which I believe is an actual hole from one pic where I can bearly see it. Is anyone able to 2nd this, or have some pics of the office they can send me please.

Cheers 

Brent 

wing_nut wrote:

Frank, it's a Badger 155 Anthem.  There isn't a molecule of paint or anyting else in any holes anywhere.  I'm stumped.

I am not an expert in AB but the bubbling indicates some problem with a seal inside. Maybe something is placed a wrong way ?  

iflyprops wrote:

Greg, Just out of curiosity, why did you wait to install the horizontal stabilizers? The fit on mine are terrible and will require quite a bit of putty. Paint looks great btw!

I did not fit it yet, but usually it is much easier to work on the fuselage w/o tail installed. I will check it today. Anyway, the whole thing is on hold until I get the buffing compund