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gzt
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Friday, May 9, 2008 10:10 AM

after a long break, I returned to my Hurricane Mk I with fabric wings

Here is my first attempt to NMF. I use Hawkey's Talon acrylic metal paint and Hawkey's metal powder to buff the paint.

I am going to mask and paint few panels with a diferent shade. The fabric was painted w/o any buffing (aluminum) 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

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  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Monday, May 5, 2008 9:06 PM
Bloody well done Mike!  Great story to boot.  I look forward to seeing more of your FAA builds, love those planes! Bow [bow]

Frank 

 

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  • From: San Francisco, CA
Posted by telsono on Monday, May 5, 2008 4:25 PM

Thanks Greg, I'll see what I can do. This is the second A/C in the series I have finished. The first was a Gladiator in FAA colors. The RN personnel while enroute to Norway on their second deployment thought the Earth/Green RAF camoflage pattern would stand out like a sore thumb in Norway's late spring snow so they suggested that the Gladiators be re-painted in the Fleet Air Arm colors. The greys, greens and blues of the FAA pattern were more subtle and less noticeable than the RAF pattern. During the first deployment they wore the typical RAF pattern. My plan on this series is two Gladiators (RAF and FAA), the Hurricane, two Whirlwinds (Earth and Green, Grey and Green), Typhoon (late model) and a Meteor III. I have all the models in my stash.

Because of the re-build after the losses onboard the HMS Glorious the squadron was sent to Grangemouth and Drem. I don't know if they saw much action up north, but the bulk of their airmen were Indian pilots at this time. They are not reported to have seen any action during BoB but are accounted among the "Few". 

Mike T.

Beware the hobby that eats.  - Ben Franklin

Do not fear mistakes. You will know failure. Continue to reach out. - Ben Franklin

The U.S. Constitution  doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. - Ben Franklin

gzt
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Monday, May 5, 2008 3:15 PM

Mike,

very nicely done indeed !

Please provide mroe picutres when time permits. It is really a very nice modle and deserved to be shown with details.

It is a very interesting story behind the aircraft. Smile [:)] I though all the British squadrons were using Spits Smile [:)] (just kidding) 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

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Posted by telsono on Monday, May 5, 2008 2:00 PM

Thanks Darren for the compliments. The decaling was customized, but at the same time on the simple side. I had to order the squadron letters separately (Xtradecal) and added the fuselage roundels from another set of decals. The rest of the decals came from the Hasegawa kit. I seemed to be lucky with the leg oleo's. Mine were in good condition. This aircraft had a simple camo pattern without the sky band on the fuselage which made things easier.

Mike T.

Beware the hobby that eats.  - Ben Franklin

Do not fear mistakes. You will know failure. Continue to reach out. - Ben Franklin

The U.S. Constitution  doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. - Ben Franklin

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Monday, May 5, 2008 1:30 PM

Hey Mike,

You have done a cracking job on your Hurricane! Bow [bow]Bow [bow]Bow [bow]

Very nice painting and weathering-and I love the choice of markings too! 

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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  • From: San Francisco, CA
Posted by telsono on Sunday, May 4, 2008 10:22 PM

I got the chance to finish up my Hurrie this weekend. Here are some shots of it. Sorry that some of the pictures are out of focus, I hurried the photo's a little.

This aircraft is part of a series I am doing about the aircraft of 263 Squadron RAF. They had a tremendous series of action during WWII. First they started out as a Gladiator squadron and were sent to Norway and saw action up htere in two tours. Most of their personnel were lost when the HMS Glourious was sunk returning from Norway. This Hurricane shows the aircraft used duirng their rebuild period duirng the Battle of Britain while they were awaiting their new aircraft that were not ready then, the Westland Whirlwind. After the Whirlwinds became available, they flew them for almost 2 years before taking on the Hawker Typhoon and also joining up with 2nd Tactical Air Force. After the war they were disbanded and another squadron flying Meteor III's was renumbered 263. This squadron gives a good synopsis of the other types of aircraft eh British flew other than the Spitfire.

Mike T.

Beware the hobby that eats.  - Ben Franklin

Do not fear mistakes. You will know failure. Continue to reach out. - Ben Franklin

The U.S. Constitution  doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. - Ben Franklin

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  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Friday, May 2, 2008 11:04 PM
Thanks Darren!  I can't wait to add a Hurri to my display case.  I built the old Hobbycraft one years ago, but gave it to a friend who loved it so much.  Now, I better build one for myself! Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Friday, May 2, 2008 7:49 PM

Thanks Frank,

its not one of Hasegawa's best, but you'll do us proud. I'm looking forward to seeing how yours turns out.Wink [;)]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, May 1, 2008 8:37 PM

BLOODY OUTSTANDING WORK DARREN!!!

Ol' Tin Legs would be proud.  Thanks for sharing the pics, and for giving those of us building the HAsegawa kit warning of potential upcoming building anomolies. Bow [bow]

Frank 

 

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  • From: A secret workshop somewhere in England
Posted by TANGO 1 on Thursday, May 1, 2008 6:44 PM

Brent,

Thank-you! Thats just how I feel.Approve [^]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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  • From: A secret workshop somewhere in England
Posted by TANGO 1 on Thursday, May 1, 2008 6:43 PM

Thanks Dupes,

I'm sure your kit will be fine, just take your time with it and enjoy it. I'll look formward to seeing your progress.

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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  • From: Shakopee, MN
Posted by Reload on Thursday, May 1, 2008 6:43 PM

Very nice build! I like the base as well. Very well done model depicting a very deserving hero.

Brent

1 VP - PPCLI 89-92 A Coy RED DEVILS

 I mean, I had fast motor cars and fast motor bikes, and when I wasn't crashing airplanes, I was crashing motor bikes. It's all part of the game. — Sir Harry Broadhurst, RAF, 12 victories WWII

 

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  • From: Coastal Maine
Posted by dupes on Thursday, May 1, 2008 3:13 PM

Hey Tango - looks pretty sweet to me! Big Smile [:D]

Here's me hoping that my Hobbycraft 'cane doesn't have the same fit issues...my sanding skills are pretty lame, and my re-scribing skills are, well, nonexistent. Shock [:O]

Good stuff! Cool [8D]

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  • From: A secret workshop somewhere in England
Posted by TANGO 1 on Thursday, May 1, 2008 1:37 PM

Thank you Greg,

I'm glad you like this one, it was hard work at times but I've enjoyed it. Thanks for running such a great Group Build.Thumbs Up [tup]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
gzt
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Thursday, May 1, 2008 12:15 PM

Nice work Darren !

I like the display. My wife got me a display case from Ikea and when I eplain to her how I plan to put my collection there she asked for description of each plane and added: " so I will know what each one represents, the story behing the aircraft".

This one will be really nice addition to everyone collection. Great work !

 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

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  • From: A secret workshop somewhere in England
Posted by TANGO 1 on Thursday, May 1, 2008 12:06 PM
Hi Everyone,

at long last, I have finished my Hawker Hurricane Mk.I !
This is the 1/48 Hasegawa kit finished in the markings of Sqn.Ldr. Douglas Bader, 242 Sqn. RAF.

I struggled to get this one finished as I had some fit problems with the wheel well and wing roots-this led to much filling, sanding and colourful language! It also resulted in a re-scribe for most of the panels, which for someone clumsey like me, didn't turn out too bad.

The only additions I made to the kit were to drill out the exhaust stubs, add a P/E seat harness and a vac-form canopy generously donated by my mate Frank. (Daywalker)

I chose this model as my entry to the Hurricane GB as Douglas Bader is one of my heroes and I have always wanted one of his aircraft on my shelf. I hope you like my build, please feel free to give me feedback, good or bad.

Darren.

Sqn.Ldr. Douglas Bader with the men of 242 Sqn. RAF Colishall, 1940.





Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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  • From: A secret workshop somewhere in England
Posted by TANGO 1 on Thursday, May 1, 2008 12:04 PM

Frank,

to have one set of gear thats bad is one thing, but all of your kits? Mate, I really feel for you. I have an idea that might help in the meantime.......I'll PM you later on.Wink [;)]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 9:22 PM

Brent,

Yeah, I wondered about that too.  Perhaps since I was requesting four sets of parts, they wanted to be sure I wasn't scamming them for extras.  The rest of the parts on the same sprues as the bad ones were OK- not great but repairable.  The LG legs and struts were so far off that fixing them to my liking was impossible.  I'll let you know how it goes! Thumbs Up [tup]

Frank 

 

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  • From: Shakopee, MN
Posted by Reload on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:28 PM

Wow Frank, Revell never made me take pictures, nor even questioned the fact that the parts were defective. They just sent me the new parts. This is wierd with all the parts being buggered. Is it the same kit? Seems odd to have them all buggered likek that. Kep me posted as to any answers or such.....see if I can tell you if they are taking to the"farm" so to speak.

 Also, were abouts in Packer country.....GO PACK GO!!!!!!!! are you situated at? Do you do any fishing? I have been fly fishing for over 24 years ( and a PACKER fan for almost as long!!!!) and visit the driftless area aometimes. May even come out for some upland bird or hog hunting.

Brent

1 VP - PPCLI 89-92 A Coy RED DEVILS

 I mean, I had fast motor cars and fast motor bikes, and when I wasn't crashing airplanes, I was crashing motor bikes. It's all part of the game. — Sir Harry Broadhurst, RAF, 12 victories WWII

 

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  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 6:13 PM
I talked to Dragon USA yesterday, and they had me take some photos of the defective parts to show the problem.  I also checked the other three Hurricanes in my stash, and all of them had similar issues on the same parts, so I took photos of those as well to have them replaced now.  Two of them weren't as bad, but bad nonetheless.  Unfortunately, they do not have the parts in stock so they have to be ordered from Japan.  They said 3-6 weeks, which is about how long I waited for my Stuka parts.  Not sure if the new ones will be beeter than what I have in my hand now, but we'll see. Smile [:)]

Frank 

 

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  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Monday, April 28, 2008 9:20 PM
Thanks for your help fellas.  Brent- I am going to try contacting Dragon, to see what they can do for me.  As they sit now, they are unusable. Disapprove [V]

Frank 

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Shakopee, MN
Posted by Reload on Monday, April 28, 2008 9:16 PM

Frank,

Having worked in the plastic injection molding field for about 3 yrs when I got out of the military, I can say that there are a few answers as to why your parts are off.

1st - the inserts that are put in the mold could be either cokeyed or not screwed in right. I have checked mine in the Rumanian kit and they are fine.

2nd - The inserts screws could be loose thus when the mold closes and the polypropylene is injected, they fill the part but then come together fully creating an off center part

3rd - and most likly the caus eof your dismay I am afraid (IMHO) is that someone did not clean the mold off properly, spray enough mold release, or a piece of sprue got stuck making the mold off center.

The only thing I can suggest is contacting Hasagawa and telling them that part of your pieces are buggered and you would like new ones. Personaly, I have never delt with Has, but Revel was very helpfull in sending my new parts.......it is worth a try mate!

Brent

 

1 VP - PPCLI 89-92 A Coy RED DEVILS

 I mean, I had fast motor cars and fast motor bikes, and when I wasn't crashing airplanes, I was crashing motor bikes. It's all part of the game. — Sir Harry Broadhurst, RAF, 12 victories WWII

 

gzt
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  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Monday, April 28, 2008 8:05 PM
I looked after Hurricane legs but could not find any. Aeroclub makes nice set for Spits but nothing for Hurricanes Sad [:(]

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Monday, April 28, 2008 7:32 PM

I know what you mean, hopefully you will sort it out in the end.

I have done a tiny bit more to my Mk.I , all I need do is some small detail stuff and she'll be ready for inspection!Captain [4:-)]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
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  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Monday, April 28, 2008 5:10 PM

Greg- Thanks for checking into replacement gear legs for me! Big Smile [:D]

Darren- Thanks for the tip!  I tried all of my usual tricks to clean them up, but the more I try to make them presentable, the more detail I lose. Grumpy [|(]

Frank 

 

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Posted by TANGO 1 on Monday, April 28, 2008 2:33 PM

Frank,

sorry to hear of your trouble, my undercart was not too clever either. My solution was to run a scalpel blade along the seams and scrape the excess material away.

I have managed to get the canopy painted on mine-hopefully when Mrs.Tango gets home from work, she can watch over my lads and I can get some more bench time.  I really can't wait to finish this one!Approve [^]

Regards, Darren. C.A.G. FAA/USNFAW GB
gzt
  • Member since
    May 2007
  • From: Massachusetts
Posted by gzt on Monday, April 28, 2008 12:16 PM

not a good start for the Week Sad [:(]

I got some metal langing gear for Spits but I have to check if the carry Hurries too 

Flying is a thrill #2 known to mankind. Landing is #1.

http://www.rwd-6.org

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  • From: South Central Wisconsin
Posted by Daywalker on Monday, April 28, 2008 10:37 AM

I was working on my Hurri last night, and started to clean up the LG and to my dismay, the legs look HORRIBLE!!!  The molds must have been offset about .5mm, so that if I try to clean them up the .5mm "rings" and bands will be totally lost.  Has anyone else building the Hasegawa Hurri found this to be the case on their kit?  If so, any ideas how to fix them aside from buying a lathe and turning brand new ones out of brass?  I am completely at a loss on this one.  Have to admit, it's about the worst molding job I have seen, can't believe it's a Hasegawa kit.

On a few other parts, the ejection pin dpressions punch halfway through the part, nearly ruining them as well.  VERY disappointing... Disapprove [V]

Frank 

 

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  • From: Shakopee, MN
Posted by Reload on Saturday, April 26, 2008 10:34 PM

That silly putty really does a great job, nice work. Looking forward to seing it finished.

I actualy manged to get my cockpit and fuselage together tonight. Will take some pics tomorrow.

Brent

1 VP - PPCLI 89-92 A Coy RED DEVILS

 I mean, I had fast motor cars and fast motor bikes, and when I wasn't crashing airplanes, I was crashing motor bikes. It's all part of the game. — Sir Harry Broadhurst, RAF, 12 victories WWII

 

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