Winter Warriors GB 2008

Biffa, that is one awesome looking build!!! What is your opinion of the overall fit of that kit? I have one in the stash and was thinking of breaking it out.

I'm presently working on the much older Tamiya 34/85 kit, with the flattened turret. I've changed turrets though, and am now using an old resin turret (from Tank Workshop, I think). It has the early-model D5T gun, which doesn't look as cool as the newer models, but the turret itself looks better in my opinion. I'll be sure to get some pics up this week.

I've never seen the hairspray technique before, and will certainly try it some time this year.

~J

WOW, Biffa that's an amazing build, much better than my previous attempt at the same kit. Well I've got the majority of the construction done on my Strv.103b, I'm probably going to do a wavy green n' white camo scheme on it.

Great looking builds so far guys,

Chris,

Hi Guys glad you liked my entry i appreciate the comments, Dupes i really just weathered the whitewash the same with the washes and such but i didnt do any of the heavier things like chipping which i figured would be underneath the white which is why i did all that first hope that makes some sense, the mud was a mix of woodlands scenic snow, whiteglue, brown pigments and water, i was going to have some small dustings of snow on this but it looked overscale for some reason but it does make good mud heh.

Hi Jthurston the fit was perfect i didnt use any filler at all and was able to paint the hulls seperatly and then glue them together without spoiling any of the paint job, this is one of the best fitting kits i have built they usually all require a little something.

Thanks again and keep the builds coming i really like to see whitewashed vehicles now to figure out how to get one of those flashy badge thingies heh.

 

 Dupes, SMJmodeler, Bufflehead, Biffa, many thanks for the complements on the Tiger. I'm making slow progress with it now that the Zimm is done. (pandemonium at the shop with the paint work needing done)

Here's a short update on the Tiger I. Color and some of the chip work is in place. I'm going to exaggerate the weathering under the whitewash a bit to see if I can get some subtle underlying effects to come through as well as the wear on the white itself. Still working on getting the fenders and exhaust guards to show the right amount of wear without going too far.

so here's the update pics, any input is appreciated guys

Dale

 

Here's my T-34/85 so far. Still in progress, but I hope to finish her up this weekend.

Comments and critiques are of course welcome. I know about the gaps along the aft joints, they're going to be covered up. I also need to hit the whole thing with a coat of dullcote, and there are a few other discrepancies. But let 'er rip!

~J

Ho ho! Thurston comes out of the blue with this beauty...what, were you trying to sneak this one in with no progress pics? Looks primo to me - can't wait for the finished product!

Slightly Altered - construction looks to be going very well, like your homemade zim! Question though - do you plan on putting some dunkelgelb over the green base coat? As far as I know there weren't any straight green Tigers...unless anyone has other references? 

The lighting for the photos really throws my colors off, didn't really catch on to what you were saying (then it hit me like a hammer blow) but the Tiger is a yellow/tan concoction. Sure does look green in the pics though doesn't it?

Just stepped outside and took a couple daylight pics, (below) Still looking green, going to have to put a tan wash over this or something to tone it down, you think? Couldn't be just the gloss coat throwing it off. Thanks for pointing that out Dupes, probably would have gone on with this color.

 

jthurston:  Sweeeeeeeet!!!  Really liking this one!  Nice job on the whitewash, I like the wrinkled engine deck, and the "worn" wash is well done too.

Couple things: Are you planning to whitewash the road wheels?  I assume the shiny apperarance is future...make sure to "matte" that down.

Looking forward to seeing the completed build.

SA:  Can you give us a "mini tutorial" on that zim' technique?  I think it looks great and we can always use another way of doing zim' to add to our arsenal!  I've noticed some newcomers to the forum too who I'm sure would appreciate it.

Hmmm. Dale, what color did you actually use? If you're on Tamiya, you need XF-60 "Dark Yellow". Unless you're using some other manufacturer that's just a bit greener on the dark yellow? I know Model Master's is considerable more towards the shade you're using.

I used a mix of SAC bomber tan and Model Master Africa Khakibraun, about a 1/1 mix Dupes. I've used the same mix on an LRDG Chevrolet (captured by the Germans) and didn't get this tint. I went back and resprayed the Tiger the proper dark yellow. It's been bugging me since morning, the color has, and I figured no matter what was tried it wouldn't look right to my eyes... Does now Soon as the bugger dries I'll snap some pics. Thanks again Dupes, probably would have built this and always looked at it as needing something else, cause it just didn't look right.

SMJ, if you think a mini tutorial is a good idea I'll try to put one together. I've got a spare Sherman hull, and Manstein's always in on some "field applied" zimm posts. Could be interesting to see what we could drum up. Captured Sherman, field application, maybe three tone ambush camo. LOL. I do think I've got some german hull's laying around though. Fair warning, I've never done anything like this before, any sort of tutorial.

Dale 

You know, that's not a half bad idea you've got there! Certainly would look interesting, and is hypothetically historically correct - so long as one believes in field applied zim.

well gentlemen whats goin on.i'm seeing some pretty nice stuff here so i better update on my own progress.heres the winterketten in primer,one side and one side finished.except for a dusting of snow and some mud.

recieved a jaguar interior kit for the stug but as pirating goes it being used,the parts i can use ,on the panzer III.more pics shortly.the primer on the tracks is red oxide followed by a heavy drybrushing of burnt sienna,and burnt umber.and the old no.2 pencil for some worn steel.and last but not least a couple of int. shots.taking it easy on your dial-up dupes.

dupes wrote:

You know, that's not a half bad idea you've got there! Certainly would look interesting, and is hypothetically historically correct - so long as one believes in field applied zim.

It may be quite interesting at that Dupes. Never have seen zimm on a Sherman. Boy, wouldn't the "purists" be up in arms over it?  Sounding better and better all the time, LOL

Dale 

Hey Dupes, you've gotta see this. Here's the spare Sherman hull I was talking about, along with a spare Tiger I initial version spare commanders cupola. It's a perfect fit.

Dale 

 

detailfreak wrote:

and last but not least a couple of int. shots.taking it easy on your dial-up dupes.

Hehehhhe..."taking it easy on my dialup" would mean only one pic of your tracks.

Well, here's roughly what a Sherman looks like wearing Zimm. Field applied by a German crew member in the Tiger I style during a break in the action. It's beginning to take on a very unique profile guys

The Tiger I is also wearing the new paint color, instead of the green shade from earlier. Next start is the wash.  

Dale

 

After doing a little research, it seems the majority of -F's sent to the Russian front were 74/75 topside, so I've now shot those colors on the wings and fuselage in prep for the whitewash.  Since it will be covered up anyway, I freehanded it which was nice practice.  Next will be the 04 yellow for the identification band and wingtips. 

OK - Here's a showroom walkaround of my factory fresh, shiny Academy M7 Priest.  The luster finish is due to the coat of Future I applied. This is a great kit, the only downside are the many injection marks left by the molding process.  Some were in noticeable places and I spent more time eliminating those blemishes than with any other part of the kit.

My next step is to winterize it this guy.  I'll followup with photos of the finished product. Keep up the good work everyone - this is one of the best group builds ever.

Best Regards,

 Larry

 

Slightly Altered wrote:

Well, here's roughly what a Sherman looks like wearing Zimm. Field applied by a German crew member in the Tiger I style during a break in the action. It's beginning to take on a very unique profile guys

Dale - I love the zimmerized Sherman.  Kudos for the imagination and creativity.  The Tiger is looking great also.

Larry

jthurston wrote:

Here's my T-34/85 so far. Still in progress, but I hope to finish her up this weekend. Comments and critiques are of course welcome. I know about the gaps along the aft joints, they're going to be covered up. I also need to hit the whole thing with a coat of dullcote, and there are a few other discrepancies. But let 'er rip! ~J

JThurston - I have nothing but praise for the work you've done.  That is an outstanding winter finish you have there.  Way to go !

Larry

Hey Larry! Glad you stopped by!

Your Priest is looking very nice...must still be warm from the molding presses! Are you planning on masking off all of your tools and markings? Just wondering how you're going to keep them clean since they all look painted up.

Arki - any pics for us of the F? Huh?

Dale - if you don't want to post a pic of your Sherman in the Armor forum as "definitive proof" that field-applied zim existed, I'll certainly do it for you! Tiger looks muuuuch better, btw!

Yep, I'll post some progress pics before I start the whitewash.

Whoops, think I beat ya to it Dupes.  Started a new post in Armor last night I think it was. Seems to be doing well in acceptance, lol.

Glad that the Tiger looks better to your eyes too. Thanks again for catching that. I would have continued on oblivious to the problem.  

Your GB is doing great Dupes, can't say enough about the work being posted in here. They all look fantastic!!!!!!!!!  You have another one in mind yet? Maybe a "What If" kit compilation GB to use some of the spare parts we've all collected from the past builds completed.

Dale 

dupes wrote:

Your Priest is looking very nice...must still be warm from the molding presses! Are you planning on masking off all of your tools and markings? Just wondering how you're going to keep them clean since they all look painted up.

I was thinking that the tools got hit by the whitewash, snow, dirt and mud along with the rest of the vehicle.  So I was planning to weather them as well.  I painted them up nicely just as a starting point.  I need the practice painting pioneering tools anyway.

Larry

Slightly Altered wrote:

Your GB is doing great Dupes, can't say enough about the work being posted in here. They all look fantastic!!!!!!!!!  You have another one in mind yet?

Oh, I've got a whole pile "in mind". The next one will proooooobably be a halftrack GB me and JThurston have been cooking up - not sure yet if it'll just be the 251 series, or expand it to all halftracks. Got a couple of other builds to finish up first though.

Oh, and check out the "Urban Warfare" thread on the armor page - SMJModeler has a real good idea going with that one as well.

dupes wrote:

Oh, I've got a whole pile "in mind". The next one will proooooobably be a halftrack GB me and JThurston have been cooking up - not sure yet if it'll just be the 251 series, or expand it to all halftracks. Got a couple of other builds to finish up first though.

I will be all over the 251 series build.  I have the DML 3 in 1 kit which I'd like to do with the 75mm short barreled gun or my AFV Club 251 with the 75mm Pak in tow! 

A lot of excellent work being show here guys.  You are all setting the bar high.

The T-34 is together with a coat of red oxide primer.  The Dragon kit fits well, but the instructions leave a bit to be desired.  I messed up the PE grill and had to use the standard piece.  At that point, I decided to stay away from the other PE parts.  With a little luck, I'll get a coat of green on it tomorrow and then probably won't touch it for at least a week.

 I'll be looking back thru everyone's builds for techiniques to use.

Here's my progress so far. I've still got to weather it a bit and touch up some things before I take the plunge into the whitewash. Had to put a/m tracks on, used the hobbyboss ones, the lack of detail on the inside of the original ones just bugged me. Plus these tracks were cheap, not bad at all for the money. Leaving the small fiddlely pieces off until final assembly, past experience, to prevent breakage. Here she is.

Panzer 88, bobbaily - good progress on both of them! Glad to see everyone's getting stuff done.

Panzer - how did you like those HobbyBoss tracks? I've been eyeing those, wondering if they were really a step up from kit-supplied indies.

Scott - glad to see there'll be some interest! Trying to decide if I want to make it a VERY limited subject build - meaning one (and one only) of each variant of 251. So once a 251/6 say is taken, no one else can do that variant...have to see what people have in their stashes, and how many people try to get in.

The hobbyboss tracks aren't bad at all. Some clean up involved but nothing major. The hardest or most disliked thing about them was cleaning up each individual rubber block for each link, just that they are small and I had a death grip on them so they wouldn't sacrifice themselves to the carpet monster, so my hands would cramp up if I tried to do too many in a session. Other than that they are way better than the rubber bands that are stock, very similar to dragon's 251 tracks, where you use the rubber block to connect the links. I suppose if you are careful enough you make them workable, but I just wanted to get them together. I would recommend them, especially considering the price. Oh yeah, nice 152. Did you use white paint too for the whitewash? This seems the norm, but I'm still throwing the idea around of a method I read somewhere( cannot remember where) of using ground white pastel chalk mixed with water. I guess this is similar to the real deal from what remember reading.You apply,let dry, then use a stiff bristled brush to scrub it to show wear and tear. Have to experiment first.