pearl harbor 2008 thankyou

Joe:

I don't yet know what I'll be building, but count me in. It's been an honor an a priveledge to be in the 2007 GB.

By the way, have you ever thought of sending some photos or a montage of photos to one of the Pearlh Harbor veterans or survivors groups. I admit I don't know of one off hand, but I would imagine there are groups/website dedicated to this.

Just a thought.

I had a great uncle at Pearl harbor, and a late friend of our family was also there.  It would be an honor to participate in the build.  Count me in!!

1:700 USS Pennsylvania  [It will be in 1944 configuration, I'm nearly done on my 1:350 1940 version]  The Penn was in dry dock and was in the process of going from the 1940 to the 42 version.  so if its ok, I would like to do her.  Thanks!

I'm still working on 2007, but it's coming soon.

F-Joe is as good a GB host as I've had the pleasure to work 4, guys. It's a real emotional experience, the last couple weeks of November in this GB, I thought. It meant a lot to me, so you're a good guy, Joe.

If you didn't catch this before, wingpeople would like this site, right Joe?

http://www.ww2pacific.com/aaf41.html

for many of you this will be a rehash but ....

many many thanks to you that have shown interest in this.  thankyou for joining me in this.  i will work on getting a list up and working in the coming months.  as with last year there will be a cutoff date for entry (last year was first part of november) but that is a long ways off.

again many thanks.  

bondoman thankyou for what you said.  i am glad you enjoyed last years build and hope this years is better for you.  i am also happy that this build was more than just putting plastic together.

joe 

forgot to cover a couple of things.

charles i have thought about doing that but havent due to many reasons.  too many to list.  however the builds in the past have drawn the attention of historians and museum folks.  

rob the pennsylvania would be great, but remember she has to look as she did at the time of the attack.  

bondoman that link is a good one and one that i use quite a bit.

joe 

Alright I've thought about this a little more. The ships I previously named are beyond my skills.

I was in Honolulu for the first time in '59 and things were pretty fresh. I also had some time at Hickam, so... my first memory, ever, was of what I'm going to model, which is the water tower at Hickam Field.

http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1524020205051634853YIUHsN

I hope that my model is able to include enough of the field to remind you all of the location, on that day.

these all sound awesome to me. 

joe 

david not a problem at all.  i look forward to seeing your work.

joe 

Hiya Joe and crew!

Ebay is not being nice to me about getting a 1/48 PBY....but I have plenty of time to fight for one or look elsewhere.

I  do have a line on a PH B-17 though.....and may go that route.

nam either way i look forward to seeing your work. 

joe 

Hey folks!

I have it on good authority that the Revell 1/48 PBY is being reissued this June! No more Ebay frustration!

Still keeping my eye on the PH B-17 though

Keep 'em flying! 

nam i had it on good authority that the b-18 was going to be released two .............three...............one..............this...............well shoot. 

i am still going with an sbd-1.

joe 

This is great, last night I took out my 1/32 Special Hobbies kit of the P-36 Pearl Harbor Defenders and started it, I guess you can count me in.

Mike T.

Chilling stuff

i agree.

joe 

I found this website that lists the planes that were there during the attack. I think i'm going to do a P-40.

http://www.ww2pacific.com/aaf41.html

ok, I presume the P -40s were OD in color top/sides with a light blue/gray under side

BUT were the peashooters still in the old yellow wing colors?

if so I might be forced to do one of these

dan you are right.

p-40's were od over gray.  the peashooters were changing to od over gray but there seems to be some evidence of pre war schemes.  i have seen pics of prewar schemes (cant seem to find them to offer them to you) so that scheme would be ok.

joe 

Joe;

I decided to do a baremetal version of the P-36. According to Francis Gabreski, the P-36 was considered obsolete so they were not subject to the placement at the center of the field. Subsequently, more of these survived the initial onslaught and patrols were sent up with these aircraft. Gabby was one of thsoe pilots, a young Lt.

Some views of the office prior to assembly of the fuselage.

From what I have read, the bare metal version had a aluminum painted cockpit interior.

Mike T.

telsono have you the detail in scale for the p-40 volume 1?  it has great pictures of the interior and exterior of a redone p-36 in those markings.  the interior is shown as all alum.  the exterior appears as nmf top and bottom with the exception of the flying surfaces they were the dope

joe 

Bondoman -

The stencils come from a set of 1/48 instrument dials from Mike Grant Decals. They just happened to be the right size. Some of the dials on the IP come from that set and others are just dry brushed.

fightnjoe - No I don't have that book, may need to add it to my collection. I did use this book from Peregrine Press on early cockpits. It gives only a psge to each aircraft, but they are colored photo's. Great Models carries it, but it recently went out of stock.  Also read in "Gabby, A fighter Pilot's Life" Francis Gabreski with Carl Molesworth on Schiffer Publishing, about his time in Hawaii

Mike T.

an edit:

ships of the first combined fleet are also ok for this build.

joe 

Joe, i would love to participate, sending you a PM with more details, will attempt to build the Tamiya A6M2 Zero (Zeke) w/PH markings, wont be able to start until late summer.

got the pm and replied.  i look forward to your work.

joe 

I never seem to get my act together, but at long last...

I will be building a model of the Ford Island Air Traffic Control Tower, probably at 1/350.

I've contacted them for plans and have started drawings. It's a cast iron structure that actually dovetails with one of my other interests- lighthouses.

Bill

bill it sounds like a great project.  i have been working on getting info on a project like that myself.  for me the disappearing guns are most interesting and i want to build one. 

joe 

Bill what a great idea for a project! No way on Earth I would've thought of it!

I'm curious about the 'cast iron' bit. The tower was built of cast iron sections or panels? That seems very strange.

Fightin' Joe.... I too have always been fascinated by the disappearing guns and other coastal artillery. An articulated model would be tough, but fun! Do they make a kit?

Also: Have you ever researched the Fort Drum that was situated in the water near the mouth of Manila Bay? I believe it was a steel and concrete structure built upon some protruding rocks. It was in the shape of an old battleship's foredeck (I can't spell foc'sal except for forecastle) It featured two large caliber double(?) or triple(?) gun turrets.

My ship (USS Fresno LST-1182) passed it twice in 1974.....both times I was on duty in the engine room. The only pic I ever saw was pre-war. I'm going to look it up, but wondered if any here had heard of it.

nam there is no kit.  it would have to be all scratched.  i have seen pics of several forts in the philipenes however not sure of the names.  they have one of the two remaining disappearing guns though.

joe 

namrednef wrote:

Bill what a great idea for a project! No way on Earth I would've thought of it! I'm curious about the 'cast iron' bit. The tower was built of cast iron sections or panels? That seems very strange.

They were also somehow erected by an internal jib of a simple design section by section.

http://www.nps.gov/history/maritime/constype/cast.htm

This is going to be fun.

I'm estimating the tower to be less than 200 feet tall, which means at 1/350 it'll be about 6 inches tall. But I'll include the base building and maybe a little apron with a few palms.

Here's alink to a model of Pearl Harbor done at 1/700.

http://steelnavy.com/FordIslandRS.htm

Bill.....great stuff.....thanks........

Joe.....Wow!......lotsa work!

I looked up Fort Drum.....there's a site.....cannot easily post links with M/F

Look up www.concretebattleships.org 

Hi Joe and All! Going to Noreastcon in upstate NY at end of month (Of course there is a shopping list!)

But I have learned that RevelloGram is re-issuing the PBY-5a at the end of June! Tower Hobbies will have them. So I will be building that for this build. But while at the Noreastcon.....I will be fishing for another project.

(Whew!) I did my research at a site Joe provided and was glad to see that there were PBY-5's at Pearl that day. Along with nearly every other PBY variant! 

12/07/41! 

while playing a bit i saw this. 

pearl harbor video

very moving.  

never to be forgotten.

joe 

Thanks FJ..........moving is the word.

I actually saw some photos I'd never seen before......... 

david i have most of these photos thanks to many folks from around the world.  seen in this way they are very moving.  i had tears in my eyes when i watched it.

joe 

Me too FJ, me too. Thanks for that.

I am off all next week.....not vacation..........due to slow business! So I have to beg off from the Noreastcon this weekend....can't spare the mad money, in case things don't pick up soon!

But I will be building the 1/48 PBY-5 I mentioned in other posts, once it is re-released in June. I'm really torn about buying two and trying to replicate that famous photo of the bombed out PBY on the apron during Pearl. We'll see......the kit is supposed to be about $22 per.....so it's affordable.

Let's post some thinking here folks! 

Hey! It's the old Revell kit.....reissue......Tower Hobby says they'll have it by the end of June......that's al I know, but info is solid. Tower Hobby posted it.

HTH 

Man ... I would be so for this build but I am an below average speed builder, lol. And I already signed up for the WWII Medium Bomber GB ... but, I also can't imagine it taking me any more than a month or two, (depending on if it gets nice out), to build a 1/48 B-26 Maurader.

On a side note though, I will definately be buying one of those PBY's when it releases. I have always been fascinated by those planes. Mainly because there is one stationed here in Spokane for fire-fighting use, so I get to see it all the time.

About 15 years ago there was a PBY that stopped at San Francisco Int'l when I worked there. It belonged to the Confederate Airforce or a similar organization. I was lucky enough to have the time and watched it take off. It was sweet! There seemed to be no effort in it. It rolled down the runway and just didn't want to stay on the ground. Just so slow and smooth that it resembled a Barn Owl in flight.

Mike T.

http://www.essentialpearlharbor.info/#utm_source=newsletterww2&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=apr08

PH info web site, I figure I would share.... will join in here with my build  later the summer, cheers!

the list is now current as of this post 06/02. 

joe 

randomodeler it is not too late.  i will get you added to the list.

joe 

brian no apology needed.  you are more than welcome to join this one.

 andrew got it.

joe 

Question. I read somewhere on the internet that there was either one or two PT-17 Stearman airplanes on the island that flew "patrol". Whether they were in the air somewhere or on the ground during the attack is beyond me though.

(It's been awhile since i've seen the recent movie "Pearl Harbor" and I hope i'm not just remembering something off of there).

If anyone has any information on whether they were there or not it would be much appreciated as the next build I will be starting is the PT-17. And if I could join this build with that aircraft, (as long as history allows it), I would enjoy it.

Josh

Hi Josh. Here is the addy to a page listing the A/C present at PH that morning.

www.ww2pacific.com/aaf41.html

Hope this helps you! 

Dang, well I guess not. They have an N2S Stearman at the Pacific Air Museum in Hawaii but nothing says it was there during that time.

Oh well, thanks for info though!

Here's a nice site, if you haven't seen it.

http://www.navweaps.com/index_oob/OOB_WWII_Pacific/OOB_WWII_Pearl_Harbor.htm

Fastas, keep looking. One search thread that will lead to good stuff is

http://www.airfields-freeman.com/HI/Airfields_HI_Oahu_S.htm

Scroll down to Ewa- biplanes all over the place, which don't look too Stearman to me, but keep looking. Also, write the Museum.

three days till we start. 

three days and counting.

joe 

My drenel is charging.

I've bought more glue, sanding films knives, putty and paints. 

I've dusted off my airbrush compressor.

I've been aranging my reference images on my computer. 

aaron you are in. 

joe 

FastasEF wrote:

Dang, well I guess not. They have an N2S Stearman at the Pacific Air Museum in Hawaii but nothing says it was there during that time. Oh well, thanks for info though!

There was supposedly a civillian flight instructor in the air that morning giving a lesson.  In TORA,TORA,TORA the a/c was a Stearman.  This might give you an in if you want to build a Stearman. (the rest of the movie was pretty accurate, so I've got no real reason to doubt this).  Just out of curiosity, what are the dates of this build? They weren't mentioned at the front.

Oops. Saw the start date was listed a couple of posts earlier.  I'd like to get in on this build if i could.  Gives me a good reason/excuse to buy the Hobby Boss F4F-3 in 1/72.  Now gotta find markings for the MAG.

Well, i've started the A/C in the "AC" forum. I've only got the engine and figures done. So I don't know if I still qualify to join.

That and i'm not sure if the fact that it's in that movie still qualifies it to join? I'm building it up as a U.S.Navy trainer.

Josh

fightnjoe wrote:

aaron you are in.  joe Ut oh checking the bottom of me shoe! Beware of Bondoman and Namrednef they be a shiesty pair of scallawags meant on doing some good stuff!  Joe I have lots I can build was looking to see what would fill a nitch. If I can't make up my mind I'll let Nam and Bondo do it for me OK? ( making up me mind)

lewbud - there were actually several civillian birds airborne at the time of the attack.  i will take a look at my refs today and tomorow and try to get you some options.  the one that got me is there is a report of a civillian two engine plane that was shot down, it was found and deemed a japanese plane with the passengers deemed as spys.  it seemed a ring was found from a hawaiian high school.  this started a rumor about hawaiian boys participating in the attack.  however like with all accounts time has watered and changed the account.

josh you are in.  just shelf the build for a couple of days.  you are good to go.

i have you both on the list.

aaron sounds good to me.  

joe 

fightnjoe wrote:

lewbud - there were actually several civillian birds airborne at the time of the attack.  i will take a look at my refs today and tomorow and try to get you some options.  the one that got me is there is a report of a civillian two engine plane that was shot down, it was found and deemed a japanese plane with the passengers deemed as spys.  it seemed a ring was found from a hawaiian high school.  this started a rumor about hawaiian boys participating in the attack.  however like with all accounts time has watered and changed the account.   josh you are in.  just shelf the build for a couple of days.  you are good to go.     i have you both on the list.   aaron sounds good to me.       joe

Joe,

It wasn't me that was looking to build a civilian a/c.  There was a gentleman a few posts up looking for a reason to build a Stearman and I was just trying to provide him with one.  I'm sure he would appreciate it though.  I'm planning to do a 1/72 Hobby Boss F4F-3 in VMF-211 markings by Yellow Wings.  The decals are for the a/c that were deployed to Wake, but if I can find the nos of the a/c that were left at Pearl, I can cobble up the rest from that sheet gotta query a few people.  Or, if you'll allow me I'll do one of the Wake defenders from the attack on the 8th and not worry about it.

Hey awesome! Thanks a bunch guys.

(Might be a little historically incorrect, but oh well).

Josh

sorry about that.  i missed the earlier post.  as for your build i think back to last year, and the year before when i worked through builds thinking they were of types and numbers associated with units involved in the spirit of the build and then found that they were wrong.  the spirit of the build is what counts.  i hope you are able to find the correct markings.  but i am finding that records from that time period are very scarce.  many were destroyed by a fire.  in other words if the build is correct except the plane number(based on historical fact) i believe i will let it pass.  with that being said, let me look around to see what i can come up with for you.

joe 

Hey, whatever works. If you can't find anything i'm fine watching the GB! Like I said, i'm building it up into a U.S.Navy trainer so ....

Josh

The beauty of this particular GB, which I'm in for the second year, is that Joe runs a tight ship and research is an important part, and in this case for something that many think they know a lot about, but there's always more.

Case in point, my subject the control tower at Ford Island. The structure that is there now was refurbished some years ago for the movie, and also was featured in the earlier movie TTT, where in both cases it looked more or less like this:

In point of fact on December 7, 1941 it was still under construction, and would seem to be one dark color. Missing was the office on top, it was an open platform.

There are quite a few damage photos of Ford Island taken that day from a high viewpoint, but they are not taken from that tower. They are taken from an airship mooring mast located several thousand feet to the south. And none show the other tower. The only photos I've found so far are the Japanese photos, in which the whole island is dark because of the early hour.

It's a real challenge, but I am hoping to find a description of the tower on that day.

fightnjoe wrote:

sorry about that.  i missed the earlier post.  as for your build i think back to last year, and the year before when i worked through builds thinking they were of types and numbers associated with units involved in the spirit of the build and then found that they were wrong.  the spirit of the build is what counts.  i hope you are able to find the correct markings.  but i am finding that records from that time period are very scarce.  many were destroyed by a fire.  in other words if the build is correct except the plane number(based on historical fact) i believe i will let it pass.  with that being said, let me look around to see what i can come up with for you.     joe

Thanks Joe.  Any help would be appreciated.  From what I've found on the web, the rear echelon of the squadron was left behind.  According to one of the websites there were 11 operational a/c and one undergoing maintenance on 7 Dec.  If memory serves, the Yellow Wings decal sheet covers planes 1-13 so I should be able to represent any of the a/c left behind ( assuming 24 ac in a squadron).  Like I said any help would appreciated.

sfcmac wrote:

fightnjoe wrote: aaron you are in.  joe Ut oh checking the bottom of me shoe! Beware of Bondoman and Namrednef they be a shiesty pair of scallawags meant on doing some good stuff!  Joe I have lots I can build was looking to see what would fill a nitch. If I can't make up my mind I'll let Nam and Bondo do it for me OK? ( making up me mind)

Aaron,

Didn't let Nam or Bondo do that for you over in the NAVAIR build and they stuck you with the FM kit?  If it were me I'd reconsider.

Nah Lewbud I did that to meself! I just kinda like the challenge to see if I can get the parts to fit. I can compare it to taking a Tamiya Swordfish and a Hasegawa FW-190 and making an Academy SBD outta of them. I figured I beeter do something good to pacify Nam after all my taunting.

 I am trying to get a feel for what everyone is doing here so I can try for something unique and festive! I love festive models!

 The fantastic modelers and great people here just make it almost impssible to not enjoy learning new things and stuff. This is gonna be pretty swell!

lewbud i will give it a good look this afternoon.  i think your plan is good though, and logical. 

well as with anything those who believe they know it all, are wrong.  the actual date for the us freezing japanese assets, closing ports to japanese vessels, and placing an embargo on oil sales was july 28 1941.  however this does not affect this build.  

1941

April 10  -  the imperial japanese navy is reorganized.  the 1st air fleet is organized.  

april 13  -  the japanese and russians sign a neutrality pact.

may 20  -  the japanese confirm, the us has broken and is reading some of the japanese codes.

june 20  -  the us stops oil shipments to anywhere except latin america and great britain.

june 26  -  vichy france permits japan to occupy french indochina.

july 17  -  a new japanese government is formed.

july 28  -  the us puts and embargo on oil sales, freezes assets, and closes ports to japanese vessels.

this is what japan calls the provocation for the attack on the hawaiian islands.  this my friends signals the beginning of pearl harbor 2008.



joe

well no pics as of yet but i do have the pit "constructed".   i have a first shot of color, more of a primer coat, and should have actual color in a day or so.

joe 

I just rejoined FS after a 2 year absence to rebuild home after hurricane Rita. I had started a Trumpeter 1/350 Arizona barely with EB details. I have the resin casted quays and just bought a resin model of the Vestal. I wanted to do a diorama of them tied together at pearl as the Day Before.

I just found out I would have painted my Arizona all wrong and if I am again mistaken someone please correct me but the ship was painted Mediterranian blue with turret tops of #1,2 & 4 painted red. Now, what color is the Vestal? Should I go with the magenta or chartruse paint scheme?

I will try my best to complete at least one model for the build. I manned the rail in 1966 on the USS Coral Sea headed for Viet Nam as we pulled into Pearl Harbor. It was an honor to visit the memorial.  

 I hope this doesn't interfere with football season. 

aaron the build is a go.  all ahead full.

bayoutider you are in.  i look forward to seeing the dio come together.

joe 

bayoutider wrote:

I just rejoined FS after a 2 year absence to rebuild home after hurricane Rita. I had started a Trumpeter 1/350 Arizona barely with EB details. I have the resin casted quays and just bought a resin model of the Vestal. I wanted to do a diorama of them tied together at pearl as the Day Before. I just found out I would have painted my Arizona all wrong and if I am again mistaken someone please correct me but the ship was painted Mediterranian blue with turret tops of #1,2 & 4 painted red. Now, what color is the Vestal? Should I go with the magenta or chartruse paint scheme?

Got my kit for the build today.  Quick OOB review.  Opening the box, you see a vacformed tray with protective voids for the various pieces.  There are two clear sprues one has a two piece canopy, the other a one piece.  Both clear sprues have the underwing windows to check the gear.  The fuselage is one piece with fine engraving and a molded in cockpit.  The wings and lower fuselage are one piece with finely engraved panel lines.  There is minimal flash and parting lines on both pieces.  The cowl and engine are molded in one piece, so some careful painting will be necessary.  However, the cowling is missing the two internal cheek scoops and seems more like the one on the F4F-3A. The prop has its own protective area in the tray and looks correct.  The one sprue contains the horizontal stabilizers, wheels, two piece landing gear, head rest, gunsight, and pitot tube.  Markings are for a yellow wing bird from VF-41 USS Ranger in the Atlantic 1941 and a blue bird from VF-3 aboard USS Lexington.  If you do the bird from VF-41, there are no chevron or fuselage stripes.  Hobby Boss says easy assembly on the box and they mean it as there are 21 parts total to the kit.  For a grand total of 8.99 this kit can be yours.  Here's pic of what's in the box.

http://www.public.fotki.com/lewbud/group-build/7.html

bayoutider wrote:

I just rejoined FS after a 2 year absence to rebuild home after hurricane Rita. I had started a Trumpeter 1/350 Arizona barely with EB details. I have the resin casted quays and just bought a resin model of the Vestal. I wanted to do a diorama of them tied together at pearl as the Day Before. I just found out I would have painted my Arizona all wrong and if I am again mistaken someone please correct me but the ship was painted Mediterranian blue with turret tops of #1,2 & 4 painted red. Now, what color is the Vestal? Should I go with the magenta or chartruse paint scheme? I will try my best to complete at least one model for the build. I manned the rail in 1966 on the USS Coral Sea headed for Viet Nam as we pulled into Pearl Harbor. It was an honor to visit the memorial.    I hope this doesn't interfere with football season.

 Well things are kinda quiet here lets liven them up a little. I got my order for this build in. Er at least one of them. The other is not going to be released until Sept 08 so thats a maybe. But like every good soldier I have a back-up.

 I have had a rough couple  builds lately so I am hoping this one goes together a little easier. It is the Grumman JRF Goose 1/48 scale by Czech Model. Bought it blind without reading a review or anything. It was on the front of the Squadron mail order pamplet they send out monthly. In the description I saw decals for Wheeler Field 1941 and thought that would be a different subject. 

 Looks pretty cool so far we shall see how it falls together. I mean how could you not fall in love with that color scheme?  Wish me luck!

 Well ok here is a little bit of work so far. The kit itself is on par with limited run kits like Classic Airframes so keep your dremel handy!. The resin parts are true details and very nice! Adding a little bit of detail to the smooth injection pin filled insides. Not sure how much will show but has to be better than just nothing. Why add a resin interior with smooth gobbed up side walls? Quick job but better than nothing. Got the wings and tail together fairly painless ly time to start on the pit and cabin.!

Nice to see some work here, Joe you might as well add me here too... 

no need to joe.  you signed up once you dont need to sign up again. 

for all.  you may see folks who dont appear on the list for fsm.  this build is across four forums.  

great progress so far guys.  i have minimal progress but i do have some.  no pictures yet though.  waiting till the pit is painted.  

joe 

 Looking forward to some pics Joe.  I am guessing that everyone was skeptical of my paper ribs but I am happy with the results. The cabin will not be nearly as visable when sealed up so I am one who loves to experiment.  Let you see how it comes together primed and painted. Add the illusion of a little rivet detail with a simple push pin and you have a cheap but nice stage for the resin parts. Much better than smooth walls with ejector pin marks. Have a look.

Primed and painted the wings and tail flats to give the glossy paint some time to dry.

Start putting it together painting as I go.

Slowly coming together. Lots of test fitting to ensure a painless joining of the fuselage halfs but a few more details and touch ups should be ok. I reenforced the very rear wall as the tail wheel attaches to it and I want to make sure it is sturdy.

Thanks for looking! The Goose should get wings soon!

sfcmac - That IS a great subject.... good luck! I like your rivet detail experiment, only thiing I would suggest wouldbe to use a metal straightedge as a guide so you have a straight line. nice looking IP.

bondoman - what a great project! learning a lot from your research, thanks for posting

I hated PH the movie, such a Hollywood-esque exageration & stilyzed, compared to TTT... I heard an interview with Dolittle's daughter (Military history podcasts), her family took umbrage at the portrayal of him in the PH movie, nothing like the real person.

Ah J Mart, Your not the only one who suggested that. Actually that was an experiment as it won't show when this beast is closed up. Other than being able to tell there is something there. I have confiscated one of the wifes scrap book cutters and some thicker card stock for future endevors. Even had some luck  shaping parts and solidifing them with thin superglue.  Handy when there is no p-e set and you need a detail.

 Lets give an update at where I am at. Got all the major assemblys done, now painted. This is my first use of gloss paints on any subject so I am learning there are big differences.  The resin engines were not a whole lot more detailed than the plastic so I got them as close as I could adding wires rims and data plates.

Did up the scratch made crew and after two days painting am leaving it be to dry before proceeding.  ( Not easy as it is screaming come touch me! )  Here are a couple pics to show where I am at.

 Keep on suggesting as I probably will try just about anything ! Well almost.

well i guess i can finally show some progress.

these pictures were taken friday night.   since then the fuse is closed.  this is strait from the box.  nothing added.  

joe 

Found an interesting site while trying to determine how many aircraft were left at Pearl by VMF-211 at the time of the attack.  According to Bluejacket.com, 12 were deployed to Wake and 10 were left behind.  Here's the url

http://www.bluejacket.com

lewbud wrote:

Found an interesting site while trying to determine how many aircraft were left at Pearl by VMF-211 at the time of the attack.  According to Bluejacket.com, 12 were deployed to Wake and 10 were left behind.  Here's the url http://www.bluejacket.com/

http://www.ww2pacific.com/aaf41.html

I had a long chat last week with a woman at the Pacific Air Museum. It seems that the Ford Island control tower was still under construction on that day. Very interesting, but no photos.

I think I can find the name of the General Contractor, who was a lighthouse builder. If so, I hope to get a drawing or drawings of their crane setup.

More soon.

Bondo,

Thanks for the link, I had seen in one of the earlier posts and followed it.  There was another link that led me to the different squadrons involved, but I forget where it was.  I know its somewhere on one of the earlier pages of this build.  Your build looks quite intriguing, and I thought I liked obscure and off the wall stuff at times.  Look forward to seeing it progress.  Now for an update on my build.  Upon further review (along with finding some reviews), it seems Hobby Boss has pulled a fast one and simply branded their -4 as a -3.  Some of this will be easy to correct with some putty and a delicate touch with the sandpaper.  Now if I succumb to the pull of AMS, I'll have to replace the cowl and get an aftermarket engine as the cowl and engine are one piece on the HB kit.  Will do further research. 

Heres a couple of pics of my F4F-3 after the first round of putty.

www.public.fotki.com/lewbud/pearl-harbor-2008-g/groupbuild003.html

www.public.fotki.com/lewbud/pearl-harbor-2008-g/groupbuild004.html

lewbud that is a smooth looking Wildcat!

Joe  very sharp pit. Got any pics of her closed up now?

Well finally finished the Czech Model 1/48 Grumman Goose. Marked for Wheeler Field Dec 1941.

Very colorful markings that were all but gone by that time. Guess the Army needed some visability on this one. This was a real painful build at times. Tried my patience waiting for the glossy paints to dry but here she is. Holler away!

I

Give me a little recovery time Joe and I'll see what else I can dig up!

sfcmac wrote:

lewbud that is a smooth looking Wildcat! Joe  very sharp pit. Got any pics of her closed up now? Well finally finished the Czech Model 1/48 Grumman Goose. Marked for Wheeler Field Dec 1941. Very colorful markings that were all but gone by that time. Guess the Army needed some visability on this one. This was a real painful build at times. Tried my patience waiting for the glossy paints to dry but here she is. Holler away!   I Give me a little recovery time Joe and I'll see what else I can dig up!

Thanks Aaron.  I've got a few more panel lines on the wings to fill, then some minor rescribing.  I'm still thinking about what to do about the pit, but leaning towards shooting it with int green and int black for the panel and leave it at that.  In divine scale the IP is darn near invisible anyway.  Kudos to you and your Goose.  You did a great job with a difficult kit.

Lew that 'cat is a nice model, well done.

Aaron, the Goose is wonderful. I have never ever seen that subject. Joe's GB is one of my two favorites- you may know of the other, ye' reprobate- because it is that transition between the good and the bad. Imagine what and where that bird was doing a year later.

I haven't spoken to my source again in two weeks, in Honolulu, but I believe I have enough to start. I'm building at 1/350, the base of the tower model is a brass tube 1/2" in dia. by 4" tall.

But I have the little PE stairs from my warship scrap box, which is not large.

The whole thing is raw cast iron color, and will have a derrick at the top, with shoring to hold up the deck.

 Thanks fellows. I just watched the movie today. ( The Hokey one where Ben Afleck is in the Battle of Britian, Pearl Harbor and the Doolittle Raid.) Still put me in the mood to read on Pearl Harbor stuff again.  Hard to believe there are no photos of that tower. Ill keep looking as well!

After all that I musta been tired cuz I missed the yellow prop tips and a black walkway on the wing. Fixed it and it's hanging on the wall now.

Aaron,

Did the Goose survive or was it cooked?  Saw it hanging on the wall over at the USAAC build, just curious.

lewbud wrote:

Aaron, Did the Goose survive or was it cooked?  Saw it hanging on the wall over at the USAAC build, just curious.

Well lewbud, it survived the Hurricane.  I thought those fellows would like to see an Army Sea Plane. It wasn't qualified for the build as I started way to early on it but I figured it is kinda unique looking. The actual Aircraft was destroyed at Wheeler Field during the attack. I do not believe any of the sea planes there survived. Hard to find the documentation but from what I have read Wheeler field didn't have many Aircraft that survived. I would love to find the actual photo of this bird as I know the Navy had painted over most of the bright colors. Seems like some Utility Aircraft were left colored for visability and I am not sure about the seaplanes on the battle ships. I have seen everything for the Bright yellow wings to Gray and blue.

 Also quite a bit of variations on the Japanese Aircraft, at least on the Vals and Kates. Seems the fighters on both sides were pretty standard colors. Not sure as to why. Kinda like trying to figure out how the Us Navy decided on which camo measure to use on which ship? No Idea.

hey joe

i dont think i might join this time since might not have the time to start,  i just found out abt this gb and i know i wont have the time to finish it on time but theres always nextyear if someone plan to host other pearl harbor gb

remember this ship?

i renetly won 2nd place at rochester model show last sunday in smaller than 1/600 scale.

Joe:

With apologies, I have to pull out of this GB. I have no kits that qualify (other than a B5N1...which didn't participate. The B5N2 did) and with time and money both tight right now, I'm going to contiunue eating away at my stash.

I look to join next year.

Again, sorry.

Charles

Hey everyone, I looked inside the Accurate Miniatures kit and it looks awsome! I am about to start but I might want to practice on a Revell SBD first so I can get better.

silentmodeler wrote:

hey joe i dont think i might join this time since might not have the time to start,  i just found out abt this gb and i know i wont have the time to finish it on time but theres always nextyear if someone plan to host other pearl harbor gb remember this ship? i renetly won 2nd place at rochester model show last sunday in smaller than 1/600 scale.

Good for you! You'd better be at SYRCON 21

....for the build.....Tower Hobbies has now shipped my PBY-5.....  So WIP upcoming

MY PBY HAS ARRIVED! After ordering last Spring! I may now begin!

Hey Nam, there's a bunch of good Catalina footage in the movie "South Pacific", if you care to get it. It's in color and was filmed in/out of the PBY that's on display in San Diego. All kinds of good interior stuff, plus it's one of my favorite musicals.

Bill

bondoman wrote:

Hey Nam, there's a bunch of good Catalina footage in the movie "South Pacific", if you care to get it. It's in color and was filmed in/out of the PBY that's on display in San Diego. All kinds of good interior stuff, plus it's one of my favorite musicals. Bill

No offense Bondoman, but I was never impressed with the studio mock-up of the PBY, (not to mention that it was totally out of place.)

One of my favorite musicals also!

Looking good Joe What paint scheme are you going for?

I will get started on mine soon.

Looking good Joe! I have my PBY started!

Hey guys, didnt want you to think I forgot about this one.  Been busy with other projects, including a total remodel of the model room. 

As for my entry, I have just about finished the construction of the USS Mohawk.  It is a USCGC that was at Pearl.  Its a 1:350th resin and PE kit from Commander Models.  Its not a bad kit, but as I now have references of the REAL Mohawk, I find it is very inaccurate.  A friend on mine [former navy] went to Key West and took tons of ref shots of the cutter.  And now I find myself doing a ton of extra work. But she should be receiving paint later today, if all goes well.

On a second entry, I had started and done about 75% of the construction of a 1:350th USS Arizona.  It's being converted to the USS Pennsylvania, the ship my great uncle served on.  I have since disassembled a great deal of it, and started to rebuild and add PE. Since I took it back down to about a 20-25% build state, I wondered if I might also include this in the GB?  Please let me know.  Thanks.

Joe what the heck's wrong with that?!? I have the AM -2 in the stash so I know what yer dealing with.

If you missed it.....I got my Revell repop PBY-5 and am building it for this GB.....I have PC picture issues but will have WIPs up soon.

david i caught it.  i just havent had the time to do a lot of posting. 

looking forward to seeing your work.

joe 

I am new to these forums, and I have to say,I really like the idea behind this group build.

It is a very nice tribute to those veterans of the worst day for the American Military.

I just wanted to add this photo that I took while visiting the Arizona Memorial...

Justin

justin,

thankyou.  

joe 

In no particular order-

This year December 7 falls on Sunday.

I just got a project on on Nimitz Pier that starts next Spring, so I can do all kind of research for you all for Pearl harbor 2009 that Joe is going to host.

This is always my favorite GB and I do about 3 a year.

I'm starting this in about a week so I may not finish on time, but I WILL FINISH.

Thank you, Joe

Bill

for all who read this thread.

today, november 13 2008, is the final day for new entries.   for those who have joined first my apologies.  i have not been as active as in years past.  i work two jobs, grocery manager in a small store and real estate, i just havent had the time to devote to building nor to posting.  this build has taken a life of its own it seems.  when i first joined fsm the build was hosted by fsm member obiwan.  to me this was perfect, it combined two things that i was very interested in.  the second time i hosted the build.  i tried to put some of the history into it.  this is the fourth year for this build.  this year i am proud to say the build is on four different forums.  thankyou to all who have joined.  thankyou to all who have finished.  for those who read this and think they wont finish before the "deadline".  the purpose of the build is for tribute.  please finish.  dont let it hit the unfinished/never to be finished pile.  

joe 

Great heartfelt, post Bill! Thanks!

I have four ongoing GB's in progress, but the PHGB has the closest deadline....and I was handicapped a bit by my kit pre-order was delayed from June until September.

I'm splitting time amongst all the GB's, but the Yellow Wing PBY will be ready on time!

No worries here Joe! I'm still piddling with a couple projects to get in under the deadline. As always just look for them to pop randomly. ( Kinda  like a surprize attack)

It was my original intent to build one Val Type 99 from each of the attacking carriers. Rather ambitious project I was reluctant to reveal it for fear of not being able to complete it in time. But everyday I have worked at least a little on them and have 5 pretty well looking good with 1 more to go.

I apologize for the fuzzy pics but the daughter has my good camera and it is dark and rainy here for the last 3 days.  I put these up just to give you an idea and feel of what only 5 of these look like and imagine what all of them looked like on that day! 

Who's next?

Sorry forgot to mention the IJN gray ones are the Fujumi? Testers 1/48 classic that I have collected. The Green one is a newer Hasegawa 1/48 Val.

Sheesh Aaron! I knew the threat but you are carrying it off! LOVE the various schemes!

That is dedicated building! You have makings of a future dio! Well Done!

Hi Gang!

Here are some pics of questionable quality (fixed in the future) of the PH PBY-5.

Sorry about the picture quality........it has been adderessed and the rest will be better. I'm working hard to have this in on time.

Looking forward to see more of your pics!

Well, I finished the Mohawk.  The Pennsylvania is still being worked on.  Sanding the joint in the hull now, then repainting it. Superstructures are about 90% rebuilt now. Boats and planes have yet to be started.  Not sure if she'll be 100% done by the deadline, but then again, she was in drydock at Pearl.  So she wasnt 100% on Dec 7th anyway. 

Here is the Mohawk.  

great progress in this thread.

sept 24 1941.  a message from tokyo to the consulate general instructs for reports on us vessels in pearl harbor.

nov 5 1941.  yamamoto issues top secret order no. 1 to the combined fleet.  detailing the plan for the attack on pearl harbor.

november 25 1941.  the combined fleet sails from the kuriles.

dec 2 1941.  the plan is given the go signal.  japanese embassy instructed to destroy all codes.

december 7, 1941 a flight of sbd-1's and f4f-3's were inbound from the carrier enterprise.  this flight, scout 6, arrived durring the attack.  although some did manage to land and then carry out searches for the enemy some did not.  this subject, 6-s-3, was piloted by ens. m. gonzalez with raidioman kozelek, rm3c.  the action reports from the wingman, ens. f.t. weber, follow;




and so on to my submission to this build. 

6-S-3







thank you all again for making this more than just another build.



never to be forgotten


joe

 Wow I am glad I squeezed my stuff in when I did. You all are a tough act to follow!

Nam that PBY is just coming along spectacularly! Should be a really cool addition!  Thats 2 Sea Planes now! Cool Subjects!

Viper that Ship is just wow! I feel bad to say I never heard of it before, very unique and classy subject pulled off in a spectacular way! Thanks for showing me something new! ( To me at least)

Joe! I had no idea you were so close to being done. Guess you have some surprises in you as well! Looks terrific! Absolutely get excited reading your historical post as well! You do make this a special build with your passion. Gotta look at that SBD some more!

 Nam is working on the old Monogram SBD kit in a separate project but his is the stealth version!

 A lot more I would like to do as well Viper but Dec 7th is coming up too quick!

Definitely Aaron! That SBD is the goods!

Nice job and photo atmosphere there Joe! Looks like she's flying!

I went to a couple LHS to get the proper decaling for the PBY......no luck on the wing roundels....but made a major hit with smaller insignia, letters and numbers! Still fishing for the big stars.

Really nice build......what is the adjective?............atmospheric is the best, I think, Joe.

namrednef wrote:

Definitely Aaron! That SBD is the goods! Nice job and photo atmosphere there Joe! Looks like she's flying! I went to a couple LHS to get the proper decaling for the PBY......no luck on the wing roundels....but made a major hit with smaller insignia, letters and numbers! Still fishing for the big stars. Really nice build......what is the adjective?............atmospheric is the best, I think, Joe.

Nam,

For the stars, try www.yellow-wingsdecals.com .  They make sets of generic pre-war national insignia as well as appropriate letters and numbers for squadron markings etc.

thankyou for the kind words. 

i do have to say again.  all who join this build make it the way it is.  all who join give it a life of its own and make it more than just another build.

joe 

fightnjoe wrote:

thankyou for the kind words.    i do have to say again.  all who join this build make it the way it is.  all who join give it a life of its own and make it more than just another build.       joe

I wish to comment on the great ship model also. 's

My PBY is getting there and should meet the deadline. I've had photo posting issues since a recent PC "clean-up".

Fortunately sfcmac has offered to host my pics with text for me. Thanks Aaron!

See you all soon!

Do not misunderstand this post, but anyone who has the Revell 1/48 PBY-5 in the stash:

This IS a wonderful kit in most respects. But getting the fuse halves together and wing halves together is a very slow process! A little at a time.....Getting the seams as straight as possible is kind of trying. The rivet detail makes it tougher because we want to avoid filling and sanding as much as possible.

The reason I have time to post around right now?

Waiting for the next couple inches of wing seam to dry!

On this kit (it is BIG) I suggest leaving locating pins intact, much dry-fitting and sanding the pin-socket parts until the fit is right. Then pick a spot (nose on the fuse, forward outer wingtip on the wing) and work your way around bit by bit.

This is just my take, but I hope it helps!

nam i have had a few kits like that.  i am sure the kit will succum to your abilities.

 the part that defines this build:

dec 7, 1941
7:40 am 183 japanese fighters, dive bombers, level bombers, and torpedo bombers from the first wave form up after what was termed the best launch yet north of kakhuku point.

7::49 the commander of the attack cmdr fuchida signals "to" meaning charge to the other aircraft. the flight breaks up to begin attack runs.


7:53 to 8:00 aircraft from the six carriers begin attacks on nas pearl harbor (ford island), hickam field, ewa marine air corps station, bellows field, wheeler field, kaneohe naval air station, and naval vessels and stations located in pearl harbor.

8:00 to 9:00 b-17c's and b-17e"s arrive from the us mainland and are attacked while trying to land at various fields.

9:00 2 p-40"s piloted by 2lt whiteman and lt bishop are shot down after getting airborne.

9:05 four p-36"s led by 1lt sanders take flight, moments later another p-36 piloted by 2lt moore takes off. he joins up with 2lt brown from haleiwa field


these are but a few of the aircraft that got airborne. i have it written down but cant seem to find the estimated total sorties flown that morning.

11:00 cmdr fuchida makes his final flight over the destruction. he leaves the area when he confirms he is the last plane to leave.




joe

 Hey there Joe and All! Here is my last squeeze in here before the Dec 7th Deadline. I chose this for the 48 hour weekend GB and it was a crazy time for all and still is for many!

 The P-36A I promised is done. History follows from the Airforce Museum page.

Lt. Rasmussen mounting his P-36 in his pajamas on the morning of December 7, 1941. The airfield was under attack and his was one of a few aircraft that made it into the air before being destroyed. Once in the air Rasmussen charged his machine guns but to his surprise they wouldn't stop firing. He pulled the charging handle back into the locked position so that he wouldn't shoot off all his rounds before meeting the enemy. In his first attack he shot down one enemy Zero, then was attacked by 2 other Zeros. The hits severed his rudder and hydraulics and he lost control of the aircraft. As he lost altitude he regained control and headed into some clouds to avoid being attacked then made it back to the airfield. Landing without brakes he rolled off the end of the runway. The plane was a total write off except for the engine.

The ground personnel who had witnessed the whole scene came running up to his plane cheering. After the attack over 500 bullet holes were counted in the aircraft, and a 20mm shell and bullet were found lodged in the radio directly behind him which saved his life.

 I chose the 1/48 Academy ex Hobby Craft kit.

A few work in progress pics! This was a blast!

 I printed my own decals using the Testers Decal maker kit. This option isn't available with the kit decals and I would like to find the Old Pearl Harbor defender version by Hobby craft as it looks cool!  Different scheme though as well.

 Here is How she turned out in about 26 hours.

 I really have enjoyed this build Joe! If you can't tell by all the models.

  Your comments add a lot to the history for me an I always learn something new from them!

I'll be watching for the other builds!
 

Hey aaron, I forgot to tell you nice work. I don't know why, but those hobbycraft kits can sure be built up fast.

nice work on the little hawk.

i will be working sunday so i will post this now.

december 7 1941, a day which will live in infamy.

the "attack" begins at approximately 7:51. at approximately 11:00 the last plane landed on the japanese carriers. the time between is filled with death and destruction and the end of paradise. six carriers. approximately 350 aircraft. a plan designed to be just a distraction for the main thrust into the south pacific by japanese naval and army units. just a distraction, one designed to cripple the united states navy so that the japanese could move freely through the pacific.

in the end 2388 military and civilian dead. 2107 navy and marine as well as 233 army and 48 civilians. 1109 military and civilian wounded. 710 navy and marine as well as 364 army and 35 civilians. 44 states represented, as well as the district of columbia, guam, hawaii, the phillipines, and hawaii. 16 congressional medal of honors given as well as 51 navy crosses, 53 silver stars, four navy and marine corps medals, one distinguished service medal, and three bronze stars. 8 battleships sunk or heavily damaged, one minelayer sunk, two auxilliaries sunk or capsized and one heavily damaged. 169 aircraft lost, 92 navy and 77 army. 150 damaged, 31 navy and 128 army. all this in 110 minutes of combat.

for this amount of damage the japanese lost nine fighters, 15 dive bombers, and five torpedo planes. one I-class submarine was lost as well as the five midget subs. the casualties; 55 airmen, 121 submarine crewmen, and nine midget sub crewmen.

these facts taken from several sources.

the attack was so quick, so sudden, many of those killed didnt even know they were at war. even after the bombs and bullets started falling people didnt believe that they were being attacked. one report of a young man hunting with a cousin didnt believe there was an attack even after his cousin was killed. after that day the hawaiian islands were torn from being a territory governed by a few families to becoming a true part of the united states becoming a state not long after the war. the us navy was forced to change from a navy of battleship groups to a navy centered on the carrier.

today it is said that the arizona still weeps for her crew.

december 7 1941. never to be forgotten.

joe

To all involved in this build...

the tears from the Arizona:

A view of the memorial

 I intend to join the 09 group build...

 Justin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VqQAf74fsE

 We can never forget the price charged for freedom!

 Pearl Harbor Day fellows! It's here.

Want to apologize for not getting my -3 done on time.  Will try to get her done in the next week.  Thanks for the post Aaron, I've never seen the speech in its entirety.  Thanks to all who have served this country.

Well, I wondered if I would get this done in time.  I actually started it over a year and a half ago. It was then ripped down and restarted after I finished the Mohawk.  This is the USS Pennsylvania BB-38. This is the sister ship to the Arizona, and often refered to as "Sister's Fury". She earned 8 Battle Stars during her career, and was one of the ships at Operation Crossroads, where after two tests, she was still standing.  The inspiration for this build was mainly my Great Uncle.  George Steven Smith. He served on the Penn his entire Navy career.  He was on the ship the morning of the 7th, while she sat in dry dock.  The Penn sustained a bomb hit to one of the 5" turrets, but still returned fire with her .50s. After repairs at San Diego, she returned to the fight.  My uncle was one of the last to crew her, dropping anchor in the Bikini lagoon. He can be seen in some of the old newsreels exiting the ship prior to the tests. 

The model is the 1/350th Banner Arizona kit.  It is a "rebox" of the Trumpeter kit. It represents the ship how she looked in dry dock that morning. Hence no planes. She was later refitted in 1944 and no longer resembled the Arizona. There are a lot of fit issues, and more than a few inaccuracies, but it still builds to a nice ship.I added Tom's Modelworks PE sets,anchor chain from an old necklace, and invisible thread for the rigging.  I have the Dragon 1941 Arizona [will be PEnn] and 1944 Penn kits in 1/700, and they might be next. 

Sorry for the poor quality pics.  My photobooth just wont hold a model of this size.

bud no problem. 

justin, thankyou.  that about describes why i do this build.

rob she looks great to me.  

for all in this build.  

thankyou for joining me in this build.  for those who didnt finish by the "end date" please finish.  remember, this build is to show tribute to those who were affected first hand by this event.  i appreciate all the information shared and the history remembered.  

for those who died.....
for those who survived...

never to be forgotten.



joe

 Wow Rob! Excellent! A magnificent looking ship. I taught ROTC at the Wagner Building Penn State University. Right across the corner from the Bryce Jorden Center and Beaver Stadium. In front of the building is the ships bell Taken from the Pennsylvania. On the 3rd floor stairwell is a Model of that very ship. It was made by the Navy Yard that built her. An incredibly detailed 1/48scale (aprox by eyeball) In a large glass display. It is huge and very cool although an earlier config than 1941. It was made before the ship. I really wish I had pics of it.

Thanks for squeezing that beauty in!

 Hey lewbud I think that is still just the highlights of a 7 or 8 minute address by FDR.

I have a 5/8" brass tube 3 3/8" tall, primed, for the Ford Island control tower. Ladders by White Ensign. More later. Fightin Joe I will finish, like last year.

Aaron: Great work on the P-36! Going the extra mile for realism is laudable!

Rob: One of the finest ship models I've ever seen! What detail! Nevermind the photo booth.....that trunk is overmatched by that monster build!

Here is my meager progress on my PBY. I had some bad info about yellow-wing PBY's being at Pearl. A couple inaccurate pics. My bad for not researching better.

Some know that I am hosting a PBY GB.....this bird is not part of that. This is for the PH GB.....haven't even begun the other one.

This Revell PBY-5 is one huge bird with all the attendant troubles......not too bad. (Make sure you weight the nose! 1 and a half tire balancing weights should do it!) I'll try to get 'er done ASAP!

Thanks for the great posts Joe! And everyone else!

Gee Aaron!.....Thanks! You turned my apology into a compliment!

nam,

she looks clean and crisp so far.  

joe 

I'm just too damned picky!

This PBY has it's issues where being extra careful in one small area can lead to other troubles down the road. Not major stuff.....just PITA!

This is the wing now with seams outboard of motors filled with stretched sprue and minor chinks hopefully filled for good!

The second photo shows where I filled a gap just aft of the tower socket. I couldn't find a good photo ref for this area, but it just bothered me, so I filled it!

My previous pics showed the wing on....but not glued.

Fightin' Joe......At my build rate I'll keep this GB alive until this year's PH GB starts up!

Wing tip inserts (1/48 Rev PBY-5)

Okay, I mentioned over in the NAW GB about wing part fits.....here's some evidence. Not all pics are clear, but the kicker is.....and damned if I can explain it.

Starboard wing insert:

Image is fuzzy but no gaps, but a strange anomaly.....next is the port wing insert:

This shows a 'lip' of about 1/16th inch on the port wing insert on the underside.

I suggest gluing it in and trimming and sanding afterward.

I have no idea why one insert leaves a lip like that. I meticulously glued the wing together....but one insert fits nicely.....the other NOT!

Joe I'm still in but you know me I'm slow. Ford island tower is in the works,

bondoman wrote:

Joe I'm still in but you know me I'm slow. Ford island tower is in the works,

Still, it's one of the coolest subjects I've ever seen modeled. Shows great imagination!

Together Bill, we'll keep this GB on the front page for a while!

Hi! The engine/cowling assembly don't seem to simply fall into position on the mounts. The first I used Tammy extra thin.....had to hold it in place as it wanted to sag/wobble out of place. FOR 20 MINUTES!

Second cowling was done with medium cure CA and some kicker! Then solvent glue.

The wingtip floats are probmatic.....seems like they will fit okay, but those seams! If you care about seams it will take some work!

Hey thats great. I went out in the garage and found the 1/2" lucite rod that is my base, the tower is 126 ft high, or 4" high. Tiny little model you say- well I have a bunch of left over stairs from ship kits, and, these may share a diorama some day.