The Official F4U Corsair Group Build 4/01/08 - rolling end date

piperjoe wrote:

Come on and join us Jaypack55...bring on that RN Corsair IV!! (What be that anyway ? )

sorry, I should have elaborated- I meant a Royal Navy Corsair Mk. IV (basically a -1D with clipped wingtips to fit in the Brits' hangar decks).

Anywho, If I can get the money together, (I'm kinda broke right now...) I'll order a kit first chance I get!

piperjoe wrote:

Come on and join us Jaypack55...bring on that RN Corsair IV!! (What be that anyway ? )

Just taking a stab in the dark here...(get out of the way!!!!)  but here's my guess...

RN Corsair IV---RN, Royal Navy....Corsair..Um Duh. ....IV...it has a needle in a hydraulic line...no really...MkIV, (Roman numeral 4). ....but that is purely speculation, from an uneducated person...

Dave

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Gigatron wrote:

Well, here's my logical thinking; I'm not looking to keep anyone out, the more the merrier.  But, the idea of the group build is to build alongside other members to share tips and ideas.  It's more than just people who like corsairs, it's about sharing the commonality of the build, to build alongside other members - a virtual workshop, if you will. If you're 99% complete before we start and most likely will be completely finished before the rest of the group starts, you're missing the key component of being in a group build - building with the group.  Now if he were to pick up a second corsair to build along with us, I'd put him on the list, no questions asked.  But as it stands, neither he nor the members of the GB really stand to benefit.  He gets a badge without actually participating in the build itself, and he doesn't really learn any building tips from us, nor us from him.  It's like walking along the road and a marathon comes up behind you when you're 10 feet from the finish line.  Do you share in the celebratory process the same as the people who ran the 26 miles or share their comraderie?  I'm just concerned that the meaning of the GB badge will lose all meaning if we just hand it out to people who just happen to claim that they like the subject we're modeling without actually participating in the build. But like I've said, I'll leave it up to the majority of the GB.  I'll give it till the end of the week so more members get a chance to weigh in. Though, this does pose an interesting area of debate.  I may pose this question in the aircraft forum, just to see what the current thinking on this is. -Fred

Hey, it's OK if you don't think I should be in it, It doesn't matter all that much to me. I'll respect your opinion, and so I'll retract my requet for now. However, I like the idea of a second corsair-I'm thinking about getting another -1D and building an RN Corsair IV. If that happens, I'll definitely be in...

JMart wrote:

My 1/48 Revell Corsair is F4U-4 (#85-5248); never built it up nor even opened the box, cant tell you anything about quality. If you still need a F4U-4 to build up in your Dad's markings, you are welcome to mine.

Gigatron wrote:

dirtball wrote:   OH, please do a 1/32. Looks like ther is only 5 of us doing larger scale. I personaly want to see more 1/32nd kits for selfish reasons! Trust me, Harv, if space were unlimited, all my builds would be 1/32.  I love having the extra room to super-detail things. -Fred

As I think about it, I might just do a 1/32nd, since I'll be displaying it with the photo etc...

And, it will save my eyeballs.

What kit do you suggest?

Please include me in this GB. I'm planning to do the Special Hobby 1/48 F2G Super Corsair done in the Sohio #57 trim, something a bit different from all that blue!

"In 1/48 you have there is no F4U-4 kit (go figure) "

My 1/48 Revell Corsair is F4U-4 (#85-5248); never built it up nor even opened the box, cant tell you anything about quality. If you still need a F4U-4 to build up in your Dad's markings, you are welcome to mine.

Funny thing happens when you order from Lucky Models, you tend to forget sometimes stuff is coming... I got a box with an armor kit and the 1/48 Academy F4U-1 BirdCage I ordered 5 months ago :). Any comments on this kit?

Hey Harv,

I don't know much about getting the RTV mold out of the piece as casting really isn't my bag.  I'm sure you can look up 'dissolving RTV rubber' on google or something and find something.

As far as the air bubbles go, if they're small, use CA to fill them.  Just be sure to sand them after they've dried, but before they've cured.

-Fred

dirtball wrote:

OH, please do a 1/32. Looks like ther is only 5 of us doing larger scale. I personaly want to see more 1/32nd kits for selfish reasons!

Trust me, Harv, if space were unlimited, all my builds would be 1/32.  I love having the extra room to super-detail things.

-Fred

Hey Darren,

 Thanks for the suggestions. I have a 1/72 Tamiya and Italeri kits coming to me in a few days.

I'll take a look at them and decide if I want to jump up to 1/48th. ( I am limited in the space department)

The Hasagawa has raised panel lines! Might not stop me. Heck, I may even consider 1/32.

Don't worry about it, Jeff.  You're still far enough from being anywhere near done that it won't affect anything.  I say as long as you can hold off on the rest until the start date, everything is A-OK.

Darren, the only cutoff is the amount of time you'd need to build it by the end date.  Say you think it will take 2 months to build, then the cutoff date would be 2 months prior to April 1st, 2009.

-Fred

Don't worry about it, Joe.  It's only a matter of experience from reading all those instruction sheets.

-Fred

luvsjets wrote:

Hi Fred, I'm a little new here, but not new to modeling. I'd like to add my name to the list and model a Tamiya 1/72 F4U-1A Corsair. In the memory of my dad, I'd like to do this paint scheme. (dad is pictured here flying his Navy issue Corsair over Orange County. November, 1953)    Thanks!

James absolutely outstanding source of subject matter by the way, I'm sure you'll do your dad's bird justice .

As for the F4U-4 the only options you have in 1/72 are the Matchbox/Revell kit , the Italeri kit , or the Hobby Boss kit which is a little light on cockpit detail but otherwise is a nice kit.

In 1/48 you have there is no F4U-4 kit (go figure) but the only real difference between the dash 4 and the dash 4B is the dropping of the 6 x 50 cals in favour of 4 x 20mm cannons.  The Hasegawa F4U-4B is ok but a little sparse on cockpit detail and has raised panel lines.  Your best bet in this scale is the Academy kit and do a little scratch building in the machine gun dept.

Cheers

DrewH wrote:

luvsjets wrote: Hi Fred, I'm a little new here, but not new to modeling. I'd like to add my name to the list and model a Tamiya 1/72 F4U-1A Corsair. In the memory of my dad, I'd like to do this paint scheme. (dad is pictured here flying his Navy issue Corsair over Orange County. November, 1953)    Thanks! James, I hate to break it to you, but that's a F4U-4B. I'm not sure who made in 72 scale, I think Academy may have did one, I know they did in 48th scale as well as Hasagawa. But that is so cool you're building your dads plane. Bravo.

  Looking at the pic a bit closer reveals this to be a vanilla F4U-4. The F4U-4B had four 20mm cannons and this one definatly has the six .50's which makes it a F4U-4. I am a bit envious of your choice of subject and its personal significance.

Vamp

Hi guys I have a quick question for you, is there a cut-off date for joining this build?

I am keen to join but it won't be for a few months yet as I have other GB commitments that I want to finish first.

Cheers

Fred and all,

In the interest of full disclosure, my PE parts arrived on Friday the 14th and I painted all of the Office interior green parts over the weekend. To be honest, i didn't pay enough attention to the start date. I signed up for the Big Cats GB around the same time and for some reason, I thought our start date was March 15th.

So, long story short, the 'pit is done but I'm gonna put her on the shelf for a week or 2. I need a break anyway. I used the Eduard Zoom set and frankly, working with parts that are roughly the size of a human hair is nerve wracking for me. It's my first time ever working with PE and I learned some important lessons like, "not every PE piece neccesaraly makes the kit look better." I have seen others say the same thing on here in different threads but, I guess I had to learn the hard way...

I'll post pics of my progress in the next few days. But for the time being I have a 1/48 P-51B and a BF-109 Trop already put together and just waiting for exterior paint. 

Regards,

Jeff 

Regarding the chap that is requesting to come in, but is 98% done...Hate to be the party pooper here, but my vote is 'Nay'....like Gig typed...the idea is to do all, or most of the work during the time allotted. If it was say...he had only the 'Pit done, and maybe the Power plant done, (granted those are the 2 areas that will take me the longest & give me the most fits), but to just do all the tiddying up right when it kicks off...nah...there was another earlier in the thread that posted his 21stC build, but it's not the entry. My Humble recomendation, is to get another & enter that. Another COA is post what in a pic wht you hvae...then the more experienced on here can better evaluate how far along it is, then make the call...(Never buy a car unseen).

(either way the vote goes, I would still love to see the 'in work' & the finished product in question)

But is the applicant truly feels that he has 2% to go, then Wammo! He's done...then no, pick up another Bent wing bird & hit the bricks runnin' when the rest of us do.

Speaking for myself only, I have 3 in the works for 2 other GBs now. Once those are wrapped up then I can dig into this one. (It's a Trump, so l;ots of fiddly bits, gonna need all the time I can get.)

"And that's all I got to say about that" ...Forest Gump........do with what you will.

Dave

Fred,

Looking forward to the GB..I am acutally going to purchase my corsair on the official start date but need to update you.. I will still be modeling the "Black Sheep Squadron" but put me down for a Tamiya F4U-1A.

Mark

piperjoe wrote:

A question regarding Tamiya paint callouts on my Tamiya 1:48 F4U-1D Kit: Most callouts are like this: X-18 On step 1 (cockpit assembly), Part A16 has a callout like this:  XF-3:2+ and right under this callout is:                                                                  XF-5:1 Is this an"either or" paint mix to use, or, does it mean to mix each ratio and then combine them to achieve the final paint color for the part?  Thanks.

Hey Joe,

It means to use 2 parts of XF-3 to 1 part of XF-5 or more simply, twice as much XF-3 as XF-5

-Fred

Well, here's my logical thinking; I'm not looking to keep anyone out, the more the merrier.  But, the idea of the group build is to build alongside other members to share tips and ideas.  It's more than just people who like corsairs, it's about sharing the commonality of the build, to build alongside other members - a virtual workshop, if you will.

If you're 99% complete before we start and most likely will be completely finished before the rest of the group starts, you're missing the key component of being in a group build - building with the group.  Now if he were to pick up a second corsair to build along with us, I'd put him on the list, no questions asked.  But as it stands, neither he nor the members of the GB really stand to benefit.  He gets a badge without actually participating in the build itself, and he doesn't really learn any building tips from us, nor us from him. 

It's like walking along the road and a marathon comes up behind you when you're 10 feet from the finish line.  Do you share in the celebratory process the same as the people who ran the 26 miles or share their comraderie? 

I'm just concerned that the meaning of the GB badge will lose all meaning if we just hand it out to people who just happen to claim that they like the subject we're modeling without actually participating in the build.

But like I've said, I'll leave it up to the majority of the GB.  I'll give it till the end of the week so more members get a chance to weigh in.

Though, this does pose an interesting area of debate.  I may pose this question in the aircraft forum, just to see what the current thinking on this is.

-Fred

Please see later posts.

Please see later posts.

Summit wrote:

If it was I ~ I would go ahead and pick up another Corsair and build along with the others possibly picking up something new to add I had not thought of.  Besides you can never have too many Corsairs.    Having one almost complete is really not worth participating in a Group Build IMO.   But I also agree with Harv I would not want to Not Let Someone In..