The Forgotten War GB (6/25/08 - 2/28/09) - Deadline Extended Yet Again!

John (and others):

I did a little test fitting this morning of the Hasegawa F-86F-30 fuselage with the RoG F-86D Sabre Dog wings. While dimensionally they line up close enough to call "accurate", there is too big of a gap in front and behind the wing piece. At least his is my initial analysis.

I tried this with an Academy fuselage as well and found the same results. Do you have pics of your experience with this kit-bash?

I am still looking for a resin wing set to possibly try the surgery...

Aurora-7 wrote:

dupes wrote: So isn't today the day??? Who's going to be the first one to crank something out? I brought my Banshee to the office today. I don't know how much I'll get done but I'll post something before midnight tonight!

I was hoping to get right into mine, but I'm overdue on my Cold War GB bird. Still trying to finish it off. At my current pace, I should get to it in a few weeks. Unfortunately.

jeaton01 wrote:

JMart wrote:  mucker wrote:  JMart wrote:   Oh I pay for it during the school year, its lifeforce-sucking at times... funny, my kids also call my workshop my "cave" (half-basement). you know, there IS a dearth of good books on the Korean war.. let me do some research to see what I can find, I always like to be reading something about the "context" of the kid I am building. I read Crimson Sky not long ago, it was pretty good as a history of the air side.  By John Bruning.

I'll have to check that one out at the library. Another interesting book was Hot Shots, which told a few exerpts from individual pilot experiences, including Harold Fisher's ejection and time spent in a Chinese prison.

dupes wrote:

So isn't today the day??? Who's going to be the first one to crank something out?

I brought my Banshee to the office today. I don't know how much I'll get done but I'll post something before midnight tonight!

So isn't today the day???

Who's going to be the first one to crank something out?

JMart wrote:

mucker wrote:  JMart wrote:   Oh I pay for it during the school year, its lifeforce-sucking at times... funny, my kids also call my workshop my "cave" (half-basement). you know, there IS a dearth of good books on the Korean war.. let me do some research to see what I can find, I always like to be reading something about the "context" of the kid I am building.

I read Crimson Sky not long ago, it was pretty good as a history of the air side.  By John Bruning.

Charles,

Steven: You must have kids...." border="0" width="15" height="15" /> Don't tell me the epoxy and Tenax temporararily melted and deforemd major parts of the plastic before turning rock hard? By chance do you have pics of the damage?

Yes to point #1 ...

It wasn't anything like that at all.  In fact I think it's pretty much exactly opposite.  After I sealed up the fuselage halves, I let it sit for a day or so and when I got back out there to inspect it, I noticed some ooze coming out of the nose wheel bay and into the cockpit.  I'm no chemical person, but I'm thinking that the Tenax (fumes, perhaps) may have prevented the epoxy from doing what it does.  I've put it aside for the time being and from time to time have re-inspected it.  The oozing appears to be less now but there is still a sticky residue that comes out.  I don't much like the idea of proceeding with the build and having some epoxy residue ruin whatever paint job I would put on it.  Not really sure what I should do with it, but I don't have any photos of this mess.

mucker wrote:

JMart wrote: Summer IS my modelling season! no school, many days working out of home (Im a college prof), no cold weather (my paint booth is an unheated attached garage), kids old enough to help with chores :) I wont start my Tamiya M41 walker bulldog for a couple months, have other  Gbs to finish and I just started my 350 scale ship project for the year I also scored two used books at the Public library for 4$ total - Breakout and Chosin, both dealing with the aforementioned campaign, one of my mil his favs So Im ready JMart: Sounds like you've got it made. I prefer Winter when I can crawl down into my man-cave and hibernate for long periods of time. Good score on the books. If you pick up anything note worthy on the books, please dont hesitate to share.

Oh I pay for it during the school year, its lifeforce-sucking at times... funny, my kids also call my workshop my "cave" (half-basement).

you know, there IS a dearth of good books on the Korean war.. let me do some research to see what I can find, I always like to be reading something about the "context" of the kid I am building.

JMart wrote:

Summer IS my modelling season! no school, many days working out of home (Im a college prof), no cold weather (my paint booth is an unheated attached garage), kids old enough to help with chores :) I wont start my Tamiya M41 walker bulldog for a couple months, have other  Gbs to finish and I just started my 350 scale ship project for the year I also scored two used books at the Public library for 4$ total - Breakout and Chosin, both dealing with the aforementioned campaign, one of my mil his favs So Im ready

JMart: Sounds like you've got it made. I prefer Winter when I can crawl down into my man-cave and hibernate for long periods of time.

Good score on the books. If you pick up anything note worthy on the books, please dont hesitate to share.

Aggieman wrote:

Summer has brought me to a near standstill on modeling.  Took a 2-week vacation and really could use a vacation from my vacation now.

Steven: You must have kids....

Don't tell me the epoxy and Tenax temporararily melted and deforemd major parts of the plastic before turning rock hard? By chance do you have pics of the damage?

Summer IS my modelling season! no school, many days working out of home (Im a college prof), no cold weather (my paint booth is an unheated attached garage), kids old enough to help with chores :)

I wont start my Tamiya M41 walker bulldog for a couple months, have other  Gbs to finish and I just started my 350 scale ship project for the year

I also scored two used books at the Public library for 4$ total - Breakout and Chosin, both dealing with the aforementioned campaign, one of my mil his favs

So Im ready

Two more days to go (if you're not counting today)!

 I have been reading the book "Odd Man Out", which talks about the lead-up to the Korean War, nthe positions of the USA, USSR and China, and more personally Truman, Stalin and Mao. I won't give too much away, but the author's theory of the outbreak of war differs from traditional history and is quite interesting. It's a long read in that it is mainly facts and historical perspective (it's not a novel), but worth the time if the topic is of interest to you.

I hear you, Harv. As tough as it is with virtually no benchtime, it's hard to complain becuase I'm fortunate to spend a lot of quality time outside with the family.

Once you finish your Sabre, you'll need something to shoot down. Don't put that Mig too far away from the bench!

  Dups, no harm ment. As Mucker said, never looked at it that way. I just hate to see threads im involved with flownder off to the bottom or the "DREADED" page TWO. Sorry.

  So far, Summer has ment a big slow down for me right now. Alot of hard , hot SWING SHIFT work. Rather draining . Its been near 100 here in the valley all week. Havent touched any plastic for all most 3 weeks now due to wonderful family and friends visiting. But things are getting settled down here now and hope to start back up!! Realy looking forward to this build. MUCKER, I too have a MIG 15bis, but dont put me down for it. At least not yet.............Harv

I never really looked at it from the perspective, but it makes sense...you zoom over to see the latest post and it's a "bump" post. And like you said, it technically hasn;t started yet.

On the other hand, I know Harv means well and is chomping at the bit to get going (as am I).

Summer really has slowed down my builds. I want to finish my Cold War GB entry before moving on the the Sabre and Mig. A few weeks ago that looked possible, but I've made almost no progress since.

Does the summer affect you guys the same?

Maybe this is just a pet peeve of mine...but do we really need this whole "bump" thing? Especially for a GB that hasn't even started yet?

It probably has something to do with the fact that I'm saddled with dialup, and have to take a lot more time to check out posts than most people...but I suppose I would prefer there to be some actual info that sets off the "my forums" alarm! Just my .

Yes, Harv, I believe you did!

(Thanks!)

mucker wrote:

Sounds good, Bob. I've updated the first page, but to be sure (since I'm not a treadhead) are you talking about the 1/35 Dragon M4A3E8 "Easy Eight" kit? Have fun on vacation.

Thanks and yepper....that's the one.  Hopefully I can make a sizeable dent in it (and the indy links if nothing else) while we're at the beach.  Looking at the instructions, the treads are the only area of concern-they aren't the Magic Links.  But on the plus side, the bogies are not the multi-piece affair on the latest M4A3E8 'Thunderbolt' kit...which is also sitting in the stash awaiting its turn in line.... 

mucker wrote:

Let's be clear here, Mg.Mikael: The only dumb question is "Do I really need one more kit?" (Of course you do!) Yes, please feel free to use the badge in your signature line. After the build is complete, I post a "medal" next to your line on the first page for your "service". It's no big deal, and probably won't help you land your next job, but hoepfully adds a little more incentive to stay involved in the GB. Higher participation makes it more fun for everyone and seems to have the snowball effect.

Thanks for the quick response/answer!

Let's be clear here, Mg.Mikael: The only dumb question is "Do I really need one more kit?" (Of course you do!)

Yes, please feel free to use the badge in your signature line.

After the build is complete, I post a "medal" next to your line on the first page for your "service". It's no big deal, and probably won't help you land your next job, but hoepfully adds a little more incentive to stay involved in the GB. Higher participation makes it more fun for everyone and seems to have the snowball effect.

NICE, when June 25th rolls around I'll start right away!

Question for mucker, you said we can claim the badge already? And what did you mean medals will be posted upon build completion?(sorry for the dumb question)

Aurora-7 wrote:

mucker wrote: Anyone out here know have references to M-30's being used by NOrth Korean troops during this conflict? I couldn't resist a google search. This is what I found. This link it to a Korean War page that is of the principal weapons used. It mentions the M-30 at the bottom. http://www.rt66.com/~korteng/SmallArms/PrincipalWeapons.htm  This is a Wikipedia link that mentions the 8th Division of NK, and mentions 122mm weapons. It gets its data from the global security site (link at the bottom of the page).  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8th_Division_(North_Korea) Also, a link refenced from the Wikipedia site. Do a search for '122' and you'll get to the M-30s. http://www.history.army.mil/brochures/KW-Outbreak/outbreak.htm Given it seems to be generally regarded that NK got mostly WWII surplus from the Soviets for it's army, I'd say it's resonable for them to have had the M-30.

Thanks a million, Aurora-7.

Mg.Mikael: I'm relieved to say it's a go! I'm looking forward to seeing your Howitzer!

mucker wrote:

Anyone out here know have references to M-30's being used by NOrth Korean troops during this conflict?

I couldn't resist a google search. This is what I found.

This link it to a Korean War page that is of the principal weapons used. It mentions the M-30 at the bottom.

http://www.rt66.com/~korteng/SmallArms/PrincipalWeapons.htm 

This is a Wikipedia link that mentions the 8th Division of NK, and mentions 122mm weapons. It gets its data from the global security site (link at the bottom of the page). 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8th_Division_(North_Korea)

Also, a link refenced from the Wikipedia site. Do a search for '122' and you'll get to the M-30s.

http://www.history.army.mil/brochures/KW-Outbreak/outbreak.htm

Given it seems to be generally regarded that NK got mostly WWII surplus from the Soviets for it's army, I'd say it's resonable for them to have had the M-30.