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The Forgotten War GB (6/25/08 - 2/28/09) - Deadline Extended Yet Again!

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Posted by mucker on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:08 AM

 deathrattler32 wrote:
I like the badge and just in case u didnt see since it hasnt changed on the list i am goin to build the M-40 Big Shot for the gb

I'll get that changed. This is the AFV Club kit, yes?

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Posted by deathrattler32 on Monday, June 9, 2008 6:29 PM
I like the badge and just in case u didnt see since it hasnt changed on the list i am goin to build the M-40 Big Shot for the gb
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Posted by Aurora-7 on Monday, June 9, 2008 6:09 PM
Yes to the badge. Nice design.

 

 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, June 9, 2008 1:54 PM

I size my badge at 130 or so pixels in height, but I think it does say the maximum somewhere in the thread in the community forum.  I seem to remember 150.  130 seems to allow enough size for the readability of most text.

I like the badge put forth.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by 2/20 Bluemax on Monday, June 9, 2008 12:33 PM
The badge design has my vote
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Posted by dupes on Monday, June 9, 2008 12:06 PM
 mucker wrote:

I like it. Wink [;)]

EDIT - anyone know the max allowable height of a badge pic?

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Posted by Aurora-7 on Monday, June 9, 2008 12:03 PM

That's true about the Banshees early roles in the War.

Ultimately, I'll have my Banshee, Panther and a converted  Skyradier together for Korean War carrier based aircraft.

 

 

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Posted by mucker on Monday, June 9, 2008 11:28 AM
 Aurora-7 wrote:

Other than the Panther being made by Grumman and the Banshee by McDonnell, the Panther is shorter in length, and wing span - it's a bit beefer looking than the more slender Banshee.

The Banshee seems to have been overshadowed by the Panther as a Navy Fighter from the Korean War era, even though all counts point to it being every bit as good as the Panther. Maybe in part because McDonnell was a relatively new aircraft manufacturer and Grumman was already well known for it's previous 'cats', the Wildcat and Hellcat. Also, the Panther got to be featured in a motion picture ('The Bridges at Toko Ri'). 

Well, maybe I should do it and take my time since it is a rather rare bird compared to what else is being done. So make my primary the Banshee. 

That's interesting, Chris. I really enjoy the learning side of these Group Builds...

It would be neat to see one side-by-side to compare the size and shape differences of those w planes. From the little reading I've since done, it looks like the Banshee was used more for the long escort role by both the Navy and the Marines.

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Posted by mucker on Monday, June 9, 2008 11:27 AM

Well Guys:

I'm not the most artistic guy in the world. I'm not even a close second, but what do you think of this concept for a badge?

Here is is smaller:

I'll work on the font to make it more legible.

 

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Posted by Aurora-7 on Monday, June 9, 2008 11:08 AM

Other than the Panther being made by Grumman and the Banshee by McDonnell, the Panther is shorter in length, and wing span - it's a bit beefer looking than the more slender Banshee.

The Banshee seems to have been overshadowed by the Panther as a Navy Fighter from the Korean War era, even though all counts point to it being every bit as good as the Panther. Maybe in part because McDonnell was a relatively new aircraft manufacturer and Grumman was already well known for it's previous 'cats', the Wildcat and Hellcat. Also, the Panther got to be featured in a motion picture ('The Bridges at Toko Ri'). 

Well, maybe I should do it and take my time since it is a rather rare bird compared to what else is being done. So make my primary the Banshee. 

 

 

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Posted by mucker on Monday, June 9, 2008 10:28 AM

That looks to be pretty ambitious...and awarding when you complete it. Personally I'm hoping you go for it as it adds a rare bird to this GB.

Out of ignorance I ask: what are the differences between the Banshee and the Panther? They look pretty similar.

 

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Posted by Aurora-7 on Monday, June 9, 2008 9:29 AM

Here was my inspiration for the purchase. Dan Fogal's build from a 2007 on-line article of his build from Hyperscale:

 

http://www.hyperscale.com/2007/features/f2h2df_1.htm

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by mucker on Monday, June 9, 2008 8:25 AM

Now there's one you don't see modeled every day. An older Hawk kit sounds challenging...especially with a conversion kit involved. Keep window shopping and let me know what you decide. There is nothing against multiple entries, too!

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Posted by Aurora-7 on Sunday, June 8, 2008 9:57 PM

This build got me thinking of other Korean War era fighters and 'window' shoping on ebay. I just bought a Testors(Hawk) 1/48 F2H-2 Banshee.

I realize it's a dated kit and not really of a F2H-2 but I found some on-line conversion articles that made me want to give it a try. Can't promise I'll do it for this build.

 

 

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Posted by mucker on Saturday, June 7, 2008 8:13 PM

Now maybe I'm wrong about this, but wan't the armistice signed by the U.S. and North Korea? I guess the War is still going on between North and South Korea.

As for your F-16, that would be great for the Cold War build....or maybe we could just have a new, very relaxed Cold Beer GB?!?!?Make a Toast [#toast]

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Posted by HawkeyeHobbies on Saturday, June 7, 2008 7:02 PM

yeah know, technically the Korean War didn't end...

there was a cease fire but not it didn't end in the early '50s as most people think. When I was there in 83-84 I still received credit from the VFW for particpating in the Korean War. That considered...does that mean I can build an F-16 from Kunsan or an A-10 from Suwon?

Gerald "Hawkeye" Voigt

http://hawkeyes-squawkbox.com/

 

 

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Posted by dirtball on Friday, June 6, 2008 1:44 AM
John, it seems to me I just read something just the other night about wing mods on-e`s, so you just might be right!!.........Harv
"I once shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I`ll never know!"
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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, June 5, 2008 8:48 PM

Harv:

Thanks.  I had no trouble reading it.   I have read in more than one place that F-86E's did get the mod, but since I wasn't there and they didn't send me notification when they did it (hey I was 5 or 6 at the time, why not!) I guess I can't prove any did.

 

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by sanderson_91 on Thursday, June 5, 2008 7:27 PM

Hey Mucker!

The F-86 is about 50% done but I won't be doing anything with it until after 6/25.  I'll get some photo's posted before I do any additional work.  Thanks!

Steve

 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, June 5, 2008 6:46 PM

Thanks Charles!

 mucker wrote:
Thanks, Frank....if your plans change (and I KNOW you've got a Mig in that stash somewhere!), you're welcome to join at any time.

Have you been peeking in my stash again? Shock [:O]

Frank 

 

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Posted by mucker on Thursday, June 5, 2008 2:48 PM
That's greta info, Harv....thank you, sir.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Thursday, June 5, 2008 2:44 PM
 mucker wrote:

Well that was fast! I ordered my Sabre from Sprue Bros. on Tuesday and it arrived today...wow!

Now I have to figure out what I want to do with the wing. The Hasegawa has the hard wing and I need the pre-"6-3" slotted wing. John says the Revelogram F-86D wing works well...I wonder how it fits up to the HAsegawa fuselage?

Anyone out there try this yet?

 

I think it has been done Charles, and I have done some test fitting.  The D had a deeper fuselage so the F center section/wheel well area has to be used.  I'm going to start working on it pretty soon.  There is a panel line at the lower root with small round impressions in it,  That is where I plan to do the join, and it is where the full scale wing joins to the fuselage.  The upper wing doesn't look like it will be too big of a problem, it is a 90 degree fit to the fuselage.

Here is a view of the F-86F-20 lower wing attach area:

 

 

 

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by dirtball on Thursday, June 5, 2008 2:38 PM

     John,(and anyone else interested) I found my destruction sheet that came with decal sheet about F86 wings and such. If you cant read email me or PM me and I`ll send over the internet,OK?..................Harv

 Pim0003.jpg picture by dirtball_photo

 Pim0002.jpg picture by dirtball_photo

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Posted by dirtball on Thursday, June 5, 2008 2:00 PM
Mucker, yea I got a Trump 1/32 (of course) MIG15 bis in my stash. But there is NO way I`ll commit to that at this time..............Harv
"I once shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got in my pajamas, I`ll never know!"
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Posted by mucker on Thursday, June 5, 2008 1:51 PM
Thanks, Frank....if your plans change (and I KNOW you've got a Mig in that stash somewhere!), you're welcome to join at any time.

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, June 5, 2008 12:49 PM

Charles-

Grea idea for a GB!  I really wish I wasn't already over-booked so I could participate. Disapprove [V]  If you do another one next year, hopefully I can join that one. Thumbs Up [tup]

Best of luck to you all!

Frank 

 

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Posted by mucker on Thursday, June 5, 2008 12:43 PM

Well that was fast! I ordered my Sabre from Sprue Bros. on Tuesday and it arrived today...wow!

Now I have to figure out what I want to do with the wing. The Hasegawa has the hard wing and I need the pre-"6-3" slotted wing. John says the Revelogram F-86D wing works well...I wonder how it fits up to the HAsegawa fuselage?

Anyone out there try this yet?

 

 

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Posted by AJB93 on Wednesday, June 4, 2008 10:11 PM
 mucker wrote:

AJB93: Let me know what you come up with. Maybe a self-present for the big B-Day?

Maaaybe Dinner [dinner] 

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Posted by mucker on Wednesday, June 4, 2008 9:32 PM

 deathrattler32 wrote:
M.A.S.H was korea

WooHoo! I got it! Propeller [8-]

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Posted by deathrattler32 on Wednesday, June 4, 2008 9:30 PM
M.A.S.H was korea
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