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251 Halftracks GB 1 October '08 - 8 June '09

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Posted by bbrowniii on Monday, August 4, 2008 2:37 PM
 dupes wrote:

Boyd - (and anyone else who still wants to donate) it's not too late! Any amount will be gladly accepted by the MS Society. Where did you do your MS ride? In Maine? Or Connecticut?

 

Dupes,

I did my MS ride up in Maine.  I can't recall exactly where we took off from (Falmouth maybe...) bue we spent the night at the Y-camp in Winthrop, then took a different route back on Sunday.  All in all a good time.  I didn't do another one, however, because I got involved in the ALA's Trek Across Maine and the donations became too much a PITA so I had to give one up.

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by dupes on Monday, August 4, 2008 2:52 PM
 bufflehead wrote:

dupes, is it still too late to donate for your ride?? 

Absolutely not! Cool [8D]

 bufflehead wrote:

BTW how'd you do other than getting rained out yesterday?  (sorry if you already posted this info...I'm trying to catch up on a lot of posts) 

Other than yesterday, it went spectacularly. Did a good hard 30 mile warmup with three of my teammates on Friday evening, then rocked 85 miles faaaast (20.18mph, I think) on Saturday. Complete stats are available at the URL in my sig. Big Smile [:D]

Boyd - very interesting. This one stays at St. Joseph's College in Windham for both days, doing different 75 mile loops each day. I also did the Trek Across Maine a couple of times, but the fundraising got to be VERY difficult (I think the minimum is $750 per person now), and while 180 miles seemed colossal to me a few years ago, when I got to the point where I was averaging 240+ a week it just didn't seem so amazing. Wink [;)] Good time though.

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Posted by bufflehead on Monday, August 4, 2008 3:55 PM

Whew!!  Donation done....I thought I was too late!  Good job dupes and great work with the MS Society!  You ROCK!!  

BTW....how do you have time for biking AND build your models so fast??

*EDIT*  Hmmm....if you're going 20+ mile an hour for 4 hrs......I think that just answered my question!!! 

 

Ernest

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, August 4, 2008 5:41 PM

HAPPY B'DAY Panzerguy.  Mine is a week from today and guess what I asked for.... OK you.. back in the corner with yourr hand up... Yes the Dragon #6395 251/17 and the Lion Roar barrel is correct.  Panzerguy.... I hope we both get what we wantBig Smile [:D]

Marc  

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Posted by bbrowniii on Monday, August 4, 2008 6:27 PM
 wing_nut wrote:

HAPPY B'DAY Panzerguy.  Mine is a week from today and guess what I asked for.... OK you.. back in the corner with yourr hand up... Yes the Dragon #6395 251/17 and the Lion Roar barrel is correct.  Panzerguy.... I hope we both get what we wantBig Smile [:D]

Wingnut

I just got a look at that kit - NICE.  I'm a little jealous.  When I can scrape some cash together, I think that one will have to be added to my stash..

P.S.  Hey, Panzerguy, Happy B-Day!!

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by bbrowniii on Monday, August 4, 2008 6:31 PM
 dupes wrote:

Boyd - very interesting. This one stays at St. Joseph's College in Windham for both days, doing different 75 mile loops each day. I also did the Trek Across Maine a couple of times, but the fundraising got to be VERY difficult (I think the minimum is $750 per person now), and while 180 miles seemed colossal to me a few years ago, when I got to the point where I was averaging 240+ a week it just didn't seem so amazing. Wink [;)] Good time though.

WOW, $750??  When I was doing it, the minimum was $300, and that could be a challenge.  But it was a fun ride - I always had a couple of buddies ride it with me and we would just hammer the whole 60 miles so we could hang out and relax.  Definately a good time...

240+ a week... man I wish I could get there someday... maybe when the kids are a little older...

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by panzerguy on Monday, August 4, 2008 6:58 PM

 

               Sign - Oops [#oops]

  Hey guys sorry if I was a little misleading with my earlier post. What I meant to say is my B-day is Oct. 1st the day this GB start's. 

"Happiness is a belt fed weapon"

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Posted by sfcmac on Monday, August 4, 2008 7:04 PM
 panzerguy wrote:

 

               Sign - Oops [#oops]

  Hey guys sorry if I was a little misleading with my earlier post. What I meant to say is my B-day is Oct. 1st the day this GB start's. 

 I thought you said ou wre excited becaus it starts on your B-day. I was just being quiet enjoying the show....Whistling [:-^] See you may be getting older but we are already excentric! Er at least I am. But I'm happy!Make a Toast [#toast]

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Posted by sfcmac on Monday, August 4, 2008 7:07 PM
 I Know panzerguy! We shall call it your unbirthday! To celebrate this I shall buy me self some more models. ( Seems as good a reason as any)! Happy unbirthday! Panzer Guy! and many more!Party [party]
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Posted by panzerguy on Monday, August 4, 2008 7:14 PM

 sfcmac wrote:
 I Know panzerguy! We shall call it your unbirthday! To celebrate this I shall buy me self some more models. ( Seems as good a reason as any)! Happy unbirthday! Panzer Guy! and many more!Party [party]

   At my age an unbirthday sounds pretty good lol.

"Happiness is a belt fed weapon"

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Posted by dupes on Thursday, August 7, 2008 10:00 AM

Alright team, have a good weekend - I'm heading out to Nationals here in a bit after I unload a truckful of cheese. Big Smile [:D] If anyone is looking for any 251-style accessories, let me know - hopefully I can mooch a wireless signal somewhere on Friday or Saturday and check in here.

I'll be sure to take TONS of pics of any 251's that happen to be on the tables! Cool [8D] 

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Posted by Luftwoller on Thursday, August 7, 2008 12:13 PM

Happy Unbirthday to You and yours Panzerguy. Dont drink too much and i hope all the kits youve hoped for arrive in one piece.

Hasnt this GB started yet? Whats the bleedin hold up, old chap? Big Smile [:D]

As a taster of good things to come. Heres a pic of the very 1st armor model i did since returning to the hobby.

Hopefully my building has improved since these were taken.

...Guy

..'Your an embarrassment to the human genus, makes me ashamed to call myself Homo'.
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Posted by White_R34 on Thursday, August 7, 2008 6:30 PM
Man this build wont start till Oct and this discussion has gone to page 15, I hope we all will keep things going like this once we start building.
Building the Impossible Is my main goal!!
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Posted by dupes on Friday, August 8, 2008 12:27 AM

Oh, I'm sure it will. Wink [;)] Heck, we might even add a few more pages before it starts!

Lufty - nice 'track. Your skillz have definitely improved in the interim! (Those decals could use some setting solution Laugh [(-D]) Can't wait to see how you crank out that /6. Cool [8D]

For those of you paying attention, yes, it's 1:26 a.m., I just got to the hotel here in VA Beach (flight delays alllllll day). Going to have to cram in a few hours of sleep, then it's off to modeling heaven. Angel [angel]

Some 'vacation', huh? Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by moose421 on Friday, August 8, 2008 8:35 PM

Hey guys,  I found a good book of the 251 series.  It's the SdKfz 251 vol. I/II Tank Powwer vol. LVII.  It has some great photos and color plates.  It shows a pic of the /12 which is the same as the one in the squadron book.  Also has two pictures of the /15 in the hitlerjugend, Beglium of 1944.  A couple of interesting pictures of rocket stowage for the stuka version as well.

Also I found it has a picture of a /3 armed with a 2.8cm AT rifle.

dupes  This may interest you as well.  If I remember right you are doing the /2.  I has a picture of the riveted version and two color plates of the /2.  One is a c version in Stalingrad with vehicle id number and markings.  White washed as well.  The other is of the 13th panzer division during the summer of 43' again a c version.

hermesminatures  This book has a four plates of the /8 as well.  No new photos I think that you don't have.  It has one that has a water tank mounted on the right outside of the vehicle though. One of the plates has vehicle id numbers at Kursk during July 43' ausf d.  Odd thing is the plate shows whitewash.  Another is one from the 4th panzer division winter of 43-44' ausf d. Last one is from LAH march of 43 with a faded whitewash ausf c. Found one more of a whitewashed d from das Reich march of 43'

Other plates are as follows:

/4 A version hungary 45'

/6 A version 2nd panzer division June 40'

/1 B version DAK autumn 41'

a couple of c version /1, another /6 c, a couple of /3 c versions

a couple of d versions /1,  a couple of ausf d /7,  /10 ausf c,  /11 ausf d,  /13 ausf b

/14 ausf d,  /14 ausf d,  /14 ausf d, /16 ausf c,  /16 ausf c,  /16 ausf d, /16 ausf d, 2- /17 ausf c, 2-/17 ausf d with the odd turret, /18 ausf c,  /18 ausf b,  2- /21 ausf d,  3- /22 ausf d

I am going to try to grab a scanner, if anyone would like me to try to get a copy of the plate for you I can try.

Hope this helps some of you.

Kim 

 

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Posted by bbrowniii on Friday, August 8, 2008 9:05 PM
 moose421 wrote:

 

I am going to try to grab a scanner, if anyone would like me to try to get a copy of the plate for you I can try.

Hope this helps some of you.

Kim 

 

Hey Kim,

I know speaking for myself, I'd like to see what it shows for the /4.  Post it here or pm me, whichever is easiest for you.

Thanks in advance Thumbs Up [tup]

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by moose421 on Saturday, August 9, 2008 7:59 AM

bbrownii  No problem, I'll post them later today.  Still have to get the scanner.  Just looked up the /4, it has 3 pictures of the ausf a.  No inside shots or plates.

 

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Posted by pordoi on Saturday, August 9, 2008 8:10 AM

Kim,

 If you get a chance, scan some of the /18 photos.  Probably a long shot but are there any shots of the inside of the /18 in the book?  Thanks.

 Don

 

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Posted by Luftwoller on Saturday, August 9, 2008 8:54 AM

Any sign of those 251/ 6 interior shots Lycra man? or Kim? Ive just ordered the Osprey, Modelling the SdKfz 251 from amazon. Hopefully that might gleen us all some usefull info.

...Guy

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Posted by Assurgeant on Saturday, August 9, 2008 12:21 PM

Hi Moose 421,

I'd be interested in the ausf. D/7 photo if you have the chance.

Would also be keen to view any photos anyone has of the ausf D/7 used in the 'Battle of the Bulge' in December 1944...?

 

Cheers, Bryan
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Posted by pordoi on Saturday, August 9, 2008 4:45 PM
 Luftwoller wrote:

Any sign of those 251/ 6 interior shots Lycra man? or Kim? Ive just ordered the Osprey, Modelling the SdKfz 251 from amazon. Hopefully that might gleen us all some usefull info.

 

Guy,

Here are some links that might help you with radio configuration and wiring.  I've got one or two more links on my office account, so I'll try to remember to post those as well early next week.

 First, pics of Fu5, Fu7 and Fu8 radios

http://www.tigertank-h-e-181.com/21_Radio_Equipment_.htm

 

 Next, some discussion about wiring and conections that may be of help;

http://halbketten.forumotion.com/sdkfz251-mtlschutzenpanzerwagen-f8/spw-radio-connections-t248.htm

 

 finally, a link to a collector of German radio equipment with lots of info and pics;

http://www.laud.no/ww2/

 

Hope this helps.

 Don

 

Edit:  Oops, forgot a link.  since sone of the /6 had enigma, you might be interested in this...

http://www.moduni.com/product_info.php/products_id/6797249?sCsid=897f039c631316297816976b6b9f749d

 

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Posted by Luftwoller on Saturday, August 9, 2008 5:15 PM

Wow, thx Don. Theres some awesome stuff there that ive duly bookmarked. I may even order the enigma machine resin set and a map or 2 LOL.

Id love to see a pic of the radio set actually in the Half track itself. Mainly to know where the wiring goes too.

...Guy

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Posted by dupes on Monday, August 11, 2008 10:16 AM

Wow, Nationals was pretty awesome. I have a few nice 251 builds I grabbed pics of (will post once I get them uploaded), as well as a fresh stack of 251 kits I managed to grab at stupidly cheap prices...including a Cyber Hobby /2! So Hermes, ignore my previous requests for instruction sheet scans - I'm good now. Wink [;)] Also picked up the DML /1 C Rivetted and /17 C Luftwaffe, as well as the AFV /20 Uhu - Ernest you're going to love it! Big Smile [:D]

 moose421 wrote:

dupes  This may interest you as well.  If I remember right you are doing the /2.  I has a picture of the riveted version and two color plates of the /2.  One is a c version in Stalingrad with vehicle id number and markings.  White washed as well.  The other is of the 13th panzer division during the summer of 43' again a c version.

I would very much like to see those plates - the ones with the kit are just straight dunkelgelb or straight panzer gray, and I'd prefer to do something a bit more colorful if I can. Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by bufflehead on Monday, August 11, 2008 1:26 PM

 dupes wrote:
 

Also picked up the DML /1 C Rivetted and /17 C Luftwaffe, as well as the AFV /20 Uhu - Ernest you're going to love it! Big Smile [:D]

Didja already look inside the box?!?!   I haven't bought mine yet, but I've read that its a good kit!  I JUST ordered the AFV Club workable tracks to go with it since it only comes with vinyl tracks.  I'm holding off buying the kit or any other kits right now because I'll probably be going on another trip to Hong Kong/Manila in a couple of months!  There are SEVERAL AFV kits I want, including the Uhu!

Ernest

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Posted by dupes on Monday, August 11, 2008 3:13 PM

Oh is THAT so....bringing a big suitcase again? Whistling [:-^]Mischief [:-,]

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Posted by bufflehead on Monday, August 11, 2008 5:56 PM
 dupes wrote:

Oh is THAT so....bringing a big suitcase again? Whistling [:-^]Mischief [:-,]

U betcha!!Approve [^]  

Ernest

Last Armor Build - 1/35 Dragon M-26A1, 1/35 Emhar Mk.IV Female

     

Last Aircraft Builds - Hobby Boss 1/72 F4F Wildcat & FW-190A8

     

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Posted by moose421 on Monday, August 11, 2008 7:25 PM

Well, I finally got the scanner to work.  I should not let my father have stuff like this.  Had to buy a power cord, he didn't know were it went.  Managed to use it for part of a junk pile.  Of course it was on the bottom.  Had to reglue the glass plate back in.  Find a driver for it. Censored [censored]Banged Head [banghead]

But here are some of the photos and plates that you have asked me for.

251/2 photo and plates

251/4 photo

251/6

251/7 photos

251/18 photo and plates

hope this helps some of you.  Heck even found a plate for the /23 that I am assigned.

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Posted by Luftwoller on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:08 AM

Wow Moose. Great stuff there. Even a pic of my 251/6. There definately seems to be a shortage of good pics of the radio installation. Come on lads, dig deep. Im no electrician so havent a clue how to wire the swine LOL.

...Guy

..'Your an embarrassment to the human genus, makes me ashamed to call myself Homo'.
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Posted by Luftwoller on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:23 AM

I had a little look around the net and came across this site. Id say its the most comprehensive 251 website ive ever come across. Seriously not enough stuff on the /6 but some good diagrams though.

http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/pit/3515/251/#4

...Guy

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Posted by pordoi on Tuesday, August 12, 2008 7:05 AM

Thanks for the scans, Moose.

 Don

 

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