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Tamiya SDKFZ 25,1 completely abandoned..FINISHED!. pics.page5.

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, January 1, 2014 7:02 AM

I gotta admit , this is a cool WIP! Nice photo shot angles as well!

                   

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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, January 1, 2014 12:01 PM

Hugo, I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve here? It looks like you did a "Salt Technique" that resulted in those random chips? Why is thew floor yellow when the rest of the vehicle is gray? That doesn't really make sense.

First, let me advise you: BE BOLD. Don't be afraid to take chances--you have to dare to push your boundaries.

If you want to start getting a good interior, spray the interior a dark gray. Next, mix about 20% white into your dark gray and spray the top and middle of your panels in the interior with this lighter color. Imagine that your air brush stream of paint is the actual sunlight, creeping into your interior. Highlight the inside of your panels, and leave the original darker shade close to the seams and where shadows would fall. Next, give all of it a thin wash of gray oil paint--just combine white and black until you get what you want. This will tone down the contrast.

Do the same thing on the outside--use the principles of light and darkness to imagine where to paint dark gray vs light gray. Filters of blue or brown can then be added to subtly tint the overall hue of the base coat. You can also add a brown filter/wash in the lower hull interior to simulate dirt tracked in by crew's shoes.

Read my blog here to understand the concept of "Light and Dark" Painting technique. I did it pretty radically here in this thread--but you don't have to be stark with it. But read and learn how to control a paint finish: Smile  click here--Ersatz Panther Build Log

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Posted by garzonh on Wednesday, January 1, 2014 4:19 PM

the doog

Hugo, I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve here? It looks like you did a "Salt Technique" that resulted in those random chips? Why is thew floor yellow when the rest of the vehicle is gray? That doesn't really make sense.

Hi Pal!

Thank you for your advice, my intention is to have a burnt out, cooked vehicle, abandoned due to the damage. The interior is yellowish, since the interior will be dusty, dirty, and starting to rust.

Im so far now into the built that I decided not to repaint the floor with gray, it was a good experimentation for filter with oils.The benches turned out to be better, it has some colors of faded brown due to usage and sun, black for dirt and some reds and blues for stains and molds.

I greatly appreciate your criticism and advice and will follow your suggestions, for upcoming models. Bow Down

Here are Im so far... Huh?

The "muffler" looks too rusty, I will start experimenting with it for the burnt out.

Next steps are, apply the tracks, wheels and apply a flat clear varnish to do the hood burnt out. Apply some rusting streaks and water rain stains.

Please not that I did not used any PE, however I was able to cut out one of the motor covers and bend it as well as simulate damage on the idler and fender.

Question, does the varnish affects the rust pigments fo the tracks? will it disolved  them or fix them?

Thanks to all for your advice, help and critic eye. Smile

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Posted by garzonh on Saturday, January 4, 2014 3:50 PM

OK, so I have almost completed it.

I only have weathered one side, the most damaged one....added the decals, and finished the burned cooked off effect, melted tired and damged tracks.

This SDKFZ will be used in a diorama.

My intention is that is well damaged, abandoned vehicle left to its luck.

What do you think?

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Posted by bufflehead on Saturday, January 4, 2014 4:01 PM

Garzonh, that's looking very interesting.  I'm not an expert on weapon damaged/burnt vehicles, but I'd say you've captured the right look.  The only thingsa I find implausible is the half tire left on the wheel.  If the halftrack burned I would think that all the rubber would also burn off leaving just a pile of white ash.  If not, then wouldn't the rubber just fall off since the tire is basically hollow?  Also, the partially melted roadwheels don't seem right.....it would take a lot of heat to affect those steel roadwheels.  If the fire was that hot wouldn't the fenders and hull above also be affected like the area a few feet forwards?

Again, I'm no expert...just relating what I think makes sense to me.  I do like what you're doing with this...keep it up!

Ernest

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Posted by garzonh on Saturday, January 4, 2014 4:15 PM

bufflehead

The only thingsa I find implausible is the half tire left on the wheel.  If the halftrack burned I would think that all the rubber would also burn off leaving just a pile of white ash.    If the fire was that hot wouldn't the fenders and hull above also be affected like the area a few feet forwards?

Again, I'm no expert...just relating what I think makes sense to me.  I do like what you're doing with this...keep it up!

Hi, thanks for your critic eye.

I did looked for how a melted tire would look like over the internet, and found a picture similar to mine which I based mine. Where only the half of it melted and the other half stayed intact. As you correctly stated, once I had my diorama set up, I will add the other metled half and ashes over the road just below it.

On the track.and wheels, the bending and is not for the effect of the heat by the shell impact which Im trying to say, that the shell hit the SDKFZ just below the fender.

The track I will take out and leave aside, look at the "staged" area I will work on...

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Posted by bufflehead on Saturday, January 4, 2014 4:18 PM

Oh I get it now garzonh!  BTW, those pics are great!  It really shows the damage that vehicle took!  Kinda reminds me of the car I drive!! Propeller

Ernest

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Posted by garzonh on Saturday, January 4, 2014 4:26 PM

bufflehead

  Kinda reminds me of the car I drive!! Propeller

Hahahah, thanks, I still have laot of work ahead of me...again, your comments are mostly appreciated! Bow Down

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Posted by disastermaster on Saturday, January 4, 2014 5:13 PM

                               http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/hand-gestures/dap-greeting-smiley-emoticon.gif

 Hey, I'm a gonna half to get a little bit closer to this build.... it's really starting to look good.

 Now, don't forget the streaking. This http://dorkychickinlipstick.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/streaker-cartoon-streaking-funny-nude-naked.gif?w=43 is the perfect candidate.

 The only thing that doesn't look quite right to me is the hood...  eh - well http://www.anchoredbygrace.com/smileys/mgmelting.gif it looks kind'a melted at the edges.

That shouldn't be too difficult to replicate with some pie-pan aluminum and damaged paint effects to bring it up to par with the other goodies.

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/happy/giving-thumbs-up-smiley-emoticon.gif And yes, I really like it. 

                         

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by the doog on Sunday, January 5, 2014 8:18 AM

Hug, this model has "vision"! And it looks pretty convincing, for the most part. My opinion is that what is "accurate" or not in cases like this can be entirely subjective, as who can predict the effects of a blast? I think you've captured the right "look" and I would say keep going with it, as you're modeling "Art" for Art's sake!

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Posted by mustang1989 on Sunday, January 5, 2014 8:42 AM

This is sharp!!! Nice work man! Bravo

                   

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Posted by T26E4 on Sunday, January 5, 2014 9:40 AM

I would not have bent and warped the road wheels.  Anything dramatic enough to bend a wheel would have shorn it off and sent if flying.  I'd remove those if I were you.

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Posted by garzonh on Monday, January 6, 2014 3:18 PM

disastermaster

                        

 Now, don't forget the streaking. This http://dorkychickinlipstick.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/streaker-cartoon-streaking-funny-nude-naked.gif?w=43 is the perfect candidate.

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/happy/giving-thumbs-up-smiley-emoticon.gif And yes, I really like it. 

                         

Thank you very much for your comments. Smile

What kind of streaks? would you recommend.

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Posted by garzonh on Monday, January 6, 2014 3:21 PM

the doog

Hug, this model has "vision"! And it looks pretty convincing, for the most part. My opinion is that what is "accurate" or not in cases like this can be entirely subjective, as who can predict the effects of a blast? I think you've captured the right "look" and I would say keep going with it, as you're modeling "Art" for Art's sake!

My very friend

I cannot appreciate your support and on going entusiasm... Yes

Keeps me trying to improve myself, you can provide good criticism without being too harsh.

Hopefully, one day I will build better models, this is just my 5th attempt.

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Posted by garzonh on Monday, January 6, 2014 3:22 PM

mustang1989

This is sharp!!! Nice work man! Bravo

Thank you, maybe someday I will do a plane and hopefully make a decent one like yours.

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Posted by garzonh on Monday, January 6, 2014 3:25 PM

T26E4

I would not have bent and warped the road wheels.  Anything dramatic enough to bend a wheel would have shorn it off and sent if flying.  I'd remove those if I were you.

Good observation, I will not include them on the diorama.

Thanks for your advice.

Yes

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Posted by JimNTENN on Monday, January 6, 2014 3:35 PM

Well, I think you've done a tremendous job, garzonh. I certainly don't see anything wrong with it. I doubt I'll be trying anything like this when I build mine. I wouldn't know where to start to build a burned out tank.

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Posted by garzonh on Monday, January 6, 2014 3:41 PM

JimNTENN

Well, I think you've done a tremendous job, garzonh. I certainly don't see anything wrong with it. I doubt I'll be trying anything like this when I build mine. I wouldn't know where to start to build a burned out tank.

I really thank your supportive comments and appreciation.

I must say, it comes to trying to experiment. Indeed I chose this cheap model to try this out. This one I bought it for $18USD, so I experiemented with the burned look painting and also I will do more "old & abandoned" oil painting to make it look abandoned for months.

Im still trying to do so much things new and comfortabel, my opinion is to always build something challenging. So, my next challenge will be a diorama. definitely not easy at all.

On my "to do" list I have: winter cammo, lighlty weared and dusty for my Merkava kit,

have a great day!Yes

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Posted by disastermaster on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 2:51 PM

garzonh

What kind of streaks? would you recommend.

Seriously, well ..........
not the nudehttp://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/mooning/mooning-girl.gif type or germans http://dorkychickinlipstick.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/streaker-cartoon-streaking-funny-nude-naked.gif?w=43http://dorkychickinlipstick.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/streaker-cartoon-streaking-funny-nude-naked.gif?w=43http://dorkychickinlipstick.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/streaker-cartoon-streaking-funny-nude-naked.gif?w=43running for cover, but I believe you get my meaning.....  since it's a deserted wreck you could use the whole gamut of rainmarks, paint discoloration and of course the classic rust streaks seeping out of those paint chips.

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by garzonh on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 3:34 PM

OK, will do!!

Thanks.

I just got back from vacation to work and definitely my good "streaking" pace will slow down....

So, hopefully will have some progress during weekend.

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Posted by enodaed on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 4:06 PM

I for one think it's looking pretty awesome. Is this really only your 5th  build? I'm on something like my 50th and haven't even attempted something like this. Keep up the nice work...

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Posted by garzonh on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 5:57 PM

Hello my friend, yes, this is my 5th you can see my history on building in my posts where I started with my 1st build.

Go ahead and go crazy, dare to do it.....I always try to do some weird crazy stuff I had never attempted.

Thanks for your comments!!

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Posted by DUSTER on Saturday, January 11, 2014 12:28 AM

you dare to try....it doesn't get any better.

good job.

Steve

Building the perfect model---just not quite yet  Confused

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Posted by garzonh on Sunday, January 12, 2014 4:31 PM

Thank you very much!

I have not finished, yesterday I just added my 4th layer of oils and varnish...I want to add another 4 layers of oil filters and streaks, weathering before calling it a "finished".

Toast

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Posted by mikeymize on Monday, January 13, 2014 11:31 PM

Got a chance this past week end to look a bit more at the pics and was really impressed with the application of damage and wear. Plus, with all the positive advice and ideas from folks it'll only get better. Great job!

"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time".


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Posted by disastermaster on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:20 AM

I bet you been out a http://dorkychickinlipstick.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/streaker-cartoon-streaking-funny-nude-naked.gif?w=43all weeekend!

 https://i.imgur.com/LjRRaV1.png

 

 

 
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Posted by garzonh on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 2:27 PM

mikeymize

Got a chance this past week end to look a bit more at the pics and was really impressed with the application of damage and wear. Plus, with all the positive advice and ideas from folks it'll only get better. Great job!

Thank you for your comments, and yes, with so much advice from everybody it can only get better!

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Posted by garzonh on Tuesday, January 14, 2014 2:37 PM

disastermaster

I bet you been out a http://dorkychickinlipstick.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/streaker-cartoon-streaking-funny-nude-naked.gif?w=43all weeekend!

Hahahaha...  Big Smile

Tried to, but celebrated my mother in law and my wifes birthday, too much going on..did not advance anything at all.

Had to put my army on display...one of them was about to get "comissioned" to another home.

Surprise


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Posted by JayF on Thursday, January 16, 2014 11:15 AM

Good work ! Nice looking Sdkfz 251 btw (if you can say "nice" to a damaged and burned vehicle Stick out tongue).

How did you managed your burned and cooked off effect ? Did you actually melt the plastic ?  

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Posted by garzonh on Friday, January 17, 2014 2:15 PM

Lets say I used several "technics"

The hood I carved out one of the sides with a knife until it was separated then I used some pliers to bend it, by accident it gave it that "melting look".

The colors are a set of filters from true earth, i did some experiments on spare parts which came out better than this...

I actually melted the tire and with heat also bended the side covers and made a hole in it with a hot knife.

Thanks for your comments and interest!

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