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FINISHED PICS!--Page 10--DML HORNISSE

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  • From: Kristiansund, Norway
Posted by Huxy on Monday, January 12, 2009 8:49 AM

Huxy likes! :)

 

But would the camo on a real tank be that... well, a green circle splat, then a rather transparent green stroke, and a splatter again, if you see what mean?  Sign - Dots [#dots]

"Every War Starts And Ends With An Invasion".

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 12, 2009 8:51 AM

Wow...a few things really stand out here:

1) Outstanding camo work...that Tamiya field-grey really plays the part...

2) Love your base color--you and I both seem to be on the same page when it comes to our perceptions about German dark yellow...I feel it is much more of a khaki color than a yellow color...

3) Muzzle dust-cover really adds that little detail that causes a second look...

Looking great!

 

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Posted by the doog on Monday, January 12, 2009 10:28 AM

Thanks, Higgy! It's been a few days more than I planned to get an update up on this one, so you missed it because it was on the third page by then! Thanks for looking in though; I appreciate the comment! ANd good luck on that Elefant!

Bill--thanks for commenting as well; I have seen "Oparation Valkyrie"-- a decent movie, but I sure wish it wasn't Tom Cruise palying the lead role. He was decent in it, but just looked too young, IMO. I still see him as dancing in his skivvies to "Old Time Rock and Roll", LOL!

Chris--that painting effect is done with my trusty Badger 150 dual action airbrush. I sprayed the paint somewhat thicker, and use very careful finger pressure on the air lever, spraying the nozzle very close to the model, and cleaning the tip every 10 seconds or so. I appreciate the Thumbs Up [tup] on the result; glad you like it!

Thanks, too, Bill, Marc, Charlie, Tony, Mike, and Mike!!Thanks too, jthurston! The Verlinden PE is some nice stuff; you just have to be careful what to use--some parts are "optional". Do your research!

Huxy--since the real paint was sprayed with a big ol' aircrush, and the paint was thinned with gasoline, then potentially anything is possible. I've seen enough research photos to confirm that. I thin what I have here is vey realistic. Besides, much of it will be faded out with weathering. I guess I'm not seeing your "green circle splat"?!? Don't forget too--I'm a firm advocate of "Artistry" when finishing these models, as opposed to a "strict constructionist view" of rigid "accuracy"! Thanks for commenting though!

Manny--yes, I agree with you about the DY shade--close to tan. 

I too, was surpriised about the color of that Field Gray--it seems to really be "panzer Green"? And I always was bit bummed that Tamiya never had a dedicated PG? 

Thansk for the props on the camo, and the muzzle brake--I bought about a half-dozen of those for various tanks at SYRCON a few years ago--never regretted it! They're a nice little often-seen detail on the real tanks. APpropriate for a re-arming panzer on the dusty Russian plains of high summer! Big Smile [:D]

Thanks again, guys!

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Posted by Huxy on Monday, January 12, 2009 10:43 AM
I haven't gotten into the very, very, very details of most in WWII yet, and have not focues too much on camo...   So, thanks for what you told me there, Doog! Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:26 PM

OK, here we go with a weathering update--

I started the chiping process; not going crazy with it, as I want a relatively newer vehicle. I have taken to using a brush of this size lately; I can even get tiny chips by stabbing it onto the plastic; I'm quite surprised at the vesatility of it.I used MIG's 502 Abteilung Black, Light Rust, and Testor's Silver for the Metallic aspect of it.

The ammo racks:

The shells, from the reference photo: They were painted Testpr Brass, and the green is FolkArt #467 Italian Sage, with a wash of 502 Abt. Olive Green.

The weathering on the floor was done with MIG washes of Neutral Brown and several shades of the MIG's 502 Abteilung rust colors, with some MIG Industrial Dust powders for good measure. The walls were given some filters of MIG pre-mixed filters #241 "Brown for Dark Yellow", and #400 "Grey for Dark Yellow". The walls were first drybrushed with an acrylic tan, then chipped with the mix previously described.

 

The gun and breech:

The shells were installed, and the rack put in, and the side glued in.

A wire was added to the radio power thingy there....

And then the other side...I figured that in MY Hornisse, I'd have one type of shell on one side, one on the other, so we could fire at nightand not get them confused...Whistling [:-^]

The MG which is stored on the wall was given a cover from tissue and whiteglue; I got this from a reference photo too.

A couple more of the right wall:

Now to get to those roadwheels and tracks...Sigh [sigh]...my least favorite parts!

Fire away?! Big Smile [:D]

 

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Posted by jadgpanther302 on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:38 PM
lookin good doog, another shiner.Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by terry35 on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:48 PM

Looking, .......... don't know what to type. Just want to say I'm glad you stuck to this one, beautiful work so far Karl. One for the Competitions, a real table stomper there.

Terry.

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Posted by lexesbenz on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:50 PM
Karl-Looking fantastic!!!!
The flying hamster of doom rains coconuts on your pitiful city!!!!
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Posted by redleg12 on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 4:22 PM

Nice weathering, your ammo turned our very well....close to the photo. Looked in the breech....nice job on getting the moving parts polished......We will make a redleg out of you yetSmile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by RickLawler on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 4:33 PM

Looks very nice, Karl.  I'm particuarly struck by the shells.  You nailed them!  They really add a lot of sparkle sitting in the racks. 

Question, in the begining of this post you mentioned using a larger brush for chips using a number of colors.  Are you  multi-loading the brush or going back with the additional colors?

Rick

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Posted by modelfreaks on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 4:50 PM
I can't get enough of your work doog. It's looks fantastic. I especially like the painting, camo, chipping, and... well all of it. I'll be waiting for the next update.
-Brandon When something alines itself with something else, BAD THINGS WILL HAPPEN.
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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 5:04 PM
          

Marc  

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 5:05 PM
My previous post was me speechless. I love that MG cover and the ammo.

Marc  

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 5:45 PM
The shells definitely look the part and set this one out from the crowd Karl! Very nice work on the interior details and weathering...so it's fitting I guess that you now have to go through the purgatory of the road wheels and tracks to compensate. Wink [;)]
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Posted by Huxy on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:10 PM

I love it!!!

But not to spend 5 minutes trying to get words out of your awsomenss, I just have to correct you...

You did not add the pricetags on your shells that I see o the bottom of the shells in the reference picture!    Laugh [(-D]

"Every War Starts And Ends With An Invasion".

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Posted by smokinguns3 on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:15 PM
looking good.
Rob I think i can I think i can
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Posted by detailfreak on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:29 PM
Censored [censored]what is that color!either you fell off the deep end or your camera settings have gone off on there own.hahahahaha.just kidding you.actually looks much like the forum page background color.looks great so far,just snagged me another nashorn on the big e.been eyeing those fighting compartment panels to get away from the overscale.and what is that,no mesh screen behind the air intake louvers. looking forward to some figs with this one.you know you cant just close the hatches and hide from the camera on this rig.Thumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by panzer88 on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:52 PM
All I can say is "I'm not worthy"Bow [bow]. That's some amazing work Doog. I like your technique of keeping the fighting compartment walls all apart, sure looks like it makes weathering and adding all those nice details a lot easier. Again beautiful work!!

     

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Posted by psstoff995 on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:05 PM
Wooo! Looks great! Glad to see those shells painted up and stuck in the racks, any fit problems? I feel like sometimes that's an issue with Verlinden kits.

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

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Posted by pordoi on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:10 PM

Doog,

   Spot on with the ammo.  Italian sage; straight from Mussolini of course.  Big Smile [:D]  Hand painted lettering on the casings?  Also, you did a fantastic job weathering the floor.  I might have to look into the Mig filter line and give them a try on a future build.   You ever work with the blue filter over panzer gray?

 Don

 

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Posted by panzerguy on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:34 PM

   Man I just cant get over those ammo racks I love ‘em. And good call separating the ammo our gun chief would have drilled us a new one if we ever mixed rounds in the racks.

  Outsanding job KarlBow [bow]

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Posted by Higgy on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:00 PM

I must say, this is some of your best work I have seen so far. The weathering on the Gun/breach and the floor is amazing! The ammo racks and shells look fantastic too.

 Keep up the good work man, its nothing short of inspiring. =)

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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:45 PM

WOW, guys--thanks for all the comments! I was out at Jenn's tonight, so I apologize for my tardiness in replying! Thanks for the kind words, jagdpanther302, and Terry; Tony and Mike. A "redleg" you say--weren't the bad guys in "Josey Wales" called "redlegs" too? Does the term go back to the Civil War in some way, Mike?! Wink [;)]

Rick--thanks, man! When I'm doing that brush-chipping, I'm just mixing the colors together on the palette, and going for it. I'm planing to add some "layered" ones in more detail after I get the outside weathered--when I'm into "detail weathering", ya know? Smile [:)]

Thanks, Brandon, and Marc--your first post threw me a little there, Marc! Inventive post for sure! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Thanks too, Bill! I'm almost kicking myself that I didn't try the masking method for the wheels--I've been meaning to try that on one of these builds! Maybe on the next Pz IVD mit 7.5cm gun?

Thanks too Huxy--that's cuz my shells aren't for sale! They come free--at 3,281 feet per second, LOL!

Thanks too, Rob and Greg! The Nashorn detail's a little better than this kit, Greg--it builds up pretty nice OOB!

David--thanks too! Yeah, it definitely makes the detail painting easier! I had a real fear of kits like this until I figured how to get at all that rich detail!

Chris--the fit of the shells into the racks was a PITA! The reason some of the shells were off the resin tab was to fit them into the PE cradles before I glued the actual cradles in. There wasn't a hair's breadth to spare! It's tight, man! But I managed to squeeze 'em in there. I did have to cut about 1-2mm off of the PE tabs on the cradles which hold the shell projectiles, cuz they wouldn't fit--the bottom one would have been resting right on the bottom of therack, and that's incorrect. The racks themselves fit nicely into the body though, although the radio rack was a bit of a nuisance. Thanks for your comments!

Thanks, too, Don. I have not yet worked with the Pz Grey finish yet--I'm getting itchy for one of the weird Pz Grey panzerjaegers here though--Dicker Max, or the like...glad you  liked the "lettering"--it's about as good as my penmanship gets, LOL! By the way--you should definitely look in to getting some MIG powders, and some of their powder fixative--they are definitely the way to step up to the next level with your weathering!

Thanks too, panzerguy Steve! I'm glad to hear that my instincts on the ammo placement was correct! I was wondering if I was going to get someone telling me that I had to rip out the shells and stack them according to some obscure diagram--phew! Thanks for the comments!

Thanks too, Higgy; I appreciate the kind words!

Again, thanks again guys--your comments inspire ME to excel! Glad some of you mentioned the floor--I was worried if it "passed the test"?

Well, back to the desk before sleep catches me--I got wheels to do! (yech! LOL!)

 

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Posted by psstoff995 on Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:11 AM
 the doog wrote:

Thanks too Huxy--that's cuz my shells aren't for sale! They come free--at 3,281 feet per second, LOL!

HAHAHA Laugh [(-D] Well glad to see you got them to fit right, they look great in the rack, I also like the impression of the lettering on the shells, this one's going to look real nice when finished.

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

mmc
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Posted by mmc on Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:21 AM

Fantastc build Karl.

I'm doing a mini Nashorn for the 1000 Wheel GB, it's Revell's 1/72 kit, a nice and easy build, even the gun, all those small parts!!!!! Looking forward to seeing her finished, pics are bookmarked for referenceBig Smile [:D]

Mark

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:38 AM

 psstoff995 wrote:
 the doog wrote:

Thanks too Huxy--that's cuz my shells aren't for sale! They come free--at 3,281 feet per second, LOL!

HAHAHA Laugh [(-D] Well glad to see you got them to fit right, they look great in the rack, I also like the impression of the lettering on the shells, this one's going to look real nice when finished.

Thanks, Chris and Mark!!

 

I realized that I didn;t exactly clarify what I trimmed there on the PE racks--here's the photo.

 

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:40 AM
 mmc wrote:

Fantastc build Karl.

I'm doing a mini Nashorn for the 1000 Wheel GB, it's Revell's 1/72 kit, a nice and easy build, even the gun, all those small parts!!!!! Looking forward to seeing her finished, pics are bookmarked for referenceBig Smile [:D]

Mark

Hey Mark; post a picture of it here in this thread when you're done! My Horny little 'Nisse could use a Horny Nash' around for company! LOL! .............Whistling [:-^]
mmc
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Posted by mmc on Thursday, January 15, 2009 11:26 AM
 the doog wrote:
 mmc wrote:

Fantastc build Karl.

I'm doing a mini Nashorn for the 1000 Wheel GB, it's Revell's 1/72 kit, a nice and easy build, even the gun, all those small parts!!!!! Looking forward to seeing her finished, pics are bookmarked for referenceBig Smile [:D]

Mark

Hey Mark; post a picture of it here in this thread when you're done! My Horny little 'Nisse could use a Horny Nash' around for company! LOL! .............Whistling [:-^]

Will do. This may be a silly question, but what the hell.........is the interior the same colour as the exterior?

Mark

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Posted by the doog on Thursday, January 15, 2009 12:31 PM
 mmc wrote:
 the doog wrote:
 mmc wrote:

Fantastc build Karl.

I'm doing a mini Nashorn for the 1000 Wheel GB, it's Revell's 1/72 kit, a nice and easy build, even the gun, all those small parts!!!!! Looking forward to seeing her finished, pics are bookmarked for referenceBig Smile [:D]

Mark

Hey Mark; post a picture of it here in this thread when you're done! My Horny little 'Nisse could use a Horny Nash' around for company! LOL! .............Whistling [:-^]

Will do. This may be a silly question, but what the hell.........is the interior the same colour as the exterior?

Mark

Absolutely--you can use mine for a reference.
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Posted by psstoff995 on Thursday, January 15, 2009 12:46 PM
 the doog wrote:
 mmc wrote:

Will do. This may be a silly question, but what the hell.........is the interior the same colour as the exterior?

Mark

Absolutely--you can use mine for a reference.

Just a guess but was this done because of the fact that it was an open vehicle thus the interior needed to be just as "camouflaged" as the exterior? I think almost every open top vehicle I've seen was like this including 234/4s, Marders, -even US Tank Destroyers and M20 Armored Cars (as opposed to the white and primer red you might find inside of an Sherman, Tiger or Panzer etc)

And thanks for those pictures, your explination makes sense but those definitly help out Big Smile [:D]

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

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