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#100 Tristar Pz 38(t) B COMPLETE PICS P.10 10-24-09

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Posted by Nachtflieger on Sunday, September 20, 2009 2:23 AM

Great work as usual! Love that engine, and those PE ammo holders.Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]

Nate

 

 

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, September 19, 2009 10:57 PM

Tony, it was a full day's work no question there! Wink [;)] Thanks for the comments.

Will, thanks as well. It's going to be a combination of opening up hatches as well as partial cut-away on some sections like the turret and engine deck.

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Posted by psstoff995's lbro on Saturday, September 19, 2009 9:18 PM

Looks great Bill!

You opening up the whole thing or doing a cutaway? Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Saturday, September 19, 2009 9:12 PM

Dang Bill you wore me out with all that.Wow!! [wow]

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, September 19, 2009 8:25 PM

Today was a very productive day and at every step along the way I have to keep reminding myself it's all about the details! This in turn means that I have to give a lot of thought to the how and when things are dealt with...and that means things often happen in bursts.

The first burst was to add some detail to the engine area. I installed the engine permanently into position using the firewall as a prop to insure the engine sat level while the glue dried. After it had set, I used a #72 finger drill and drilled some shallow holes in the fuel tanks to support some fuel lines. The diagrams in PT 13 show that the fuel lines fed to the pump panel on the firewall so I used some 1mm diameter solder for the lines and glued the ends into the drilled holes with CA gel and then carefully bent them into the desired shape. The will be glued into the panel on the firewall once it's installed to insure everything connects up. The diagram also showed two lines running from the auxiliary reserve fuel tank on the left side towards the engine so those were added as well. The engine still needs the exhaust pipe running out to the exterior, I will add that once the radiator is installed.

Next up was the hull glacis plate. I had decided not to open up the hatch here to display the brake housing due to the way the hatch opens up, so it was installed closed. I added the clutch pedal and instrument panel and other small details. Test fits showed that I needed to sand/trim down a bit in the center for proper clearance on the steering lever column. Not sure if this is a kit issue or one I introduced in assembling the column, but either way it had to be dealt with to avoid problems with the hull sides fitting correctly.

Continuing on with the hull front, the superstructure front plate received various details in the form of the radio opertor's visor and armored glass block, the driver's periscope and housing, and the communication light panel with the commander. Due to the curved plate, there was a large ejector mark dead center that required some very careful putty and sanding work to deal with. The curve also meant that the position of the light box ended up slightly different that what is displayed in the Tristar Interior Set instructions. Those instructions assume the front plate is straight as seen on the E/F and G variants so I had to improvise a bit to get it in the right spot and still clear the hull side panel. The improvisation involved trimming down the molded-on wire conduit there by a couple of mm to accommodate the bent plate design. I used poster blue-tack putty to mask off the portions of the clear parts that I needed to preserve clear and that was it for this part.

Speaking of the hull sides, it was now time to give them some attention as well. I installed the axle hubs into the brake housing and used strips of masking tape to hold the hull sides upright with the floor to insure they fit properly and lined up straight. The driver's side received the parking brake lever as well as the electric fuel pump switch. The case for the signal staff was added and the periscope for the side view port added with blue tack masking.

Continuing on with the fighting compartment interior, I assembled the various ammunition racks for the main gun as well as the 2 MGs. The Interior Set provides some excellent PE holders that were bent to shape with pliers and tweezers. Only the MG holders proved a tight fit, the ammo cans have small raised ridges that had to be trimmed off to allow them to slide in and out without bulging the cases in the process.

The fighting compartment roof was also cleaned up with some ejector marks needing attention. I've decided that I'm going to cut away the portion of the roof over the driver's side while leaving the turret ring area intact to support the turret. Before doing that, I will paint the underside to insure consistency in what remains. I'm going to do something similar with the engine deck hatches, so those too were prepped with their ejector marks filled and sanded and the kit-supplied PE grills installed. Last but not least, the rear hull panel had the circular cover added and the external details that mount through the hull added so that they could be painted over prior to installation.

That brought me to the turret. The first order of business was the roof and the commander's cupola. I assembled the cupola per the kit instructions but left off the view port periscopes for now since I can easily install them from the underside after the roof has been painted with the interior color.

The main gun assembly came next. The kit-supplied barrel is too long when compared to the plans in PT 13 so I replaced it with the Griffon turned aluminum barrel. The kit barrel was removed at the base and the Griffon barrel glued into position at the correct length inside the mantlet with CA gel. The recoil cylinder and gun base where then added along with the breech and block. The recoil guards and spent shell bag were installed next.

The gun was then installed to the turret front plate, following the instructions carefully to insure it could still elevate freely. I encountered a problem when trying to install the gunner's sight...it seems the Tristar instruction writers didn't realize that the design of part B26, the scope, makes it impossible to fit the locking square plate, part B27, over it as called for. The only way to install it is to remove the mount tab that's molded onto the side of the scope and is supposed to attach to the main gun so that they move coaxial, slide the plate into position, then re-glue the mount tab back onto the scope. I also drilled out the eyepiece on the scope with a pin vise and added the elevation gear and shoulder traverse to the gun to round things out. The coaxial MG will get added later on, the internal locking ring will be painted first and then installed along with the MG when the time comes.

The rest of the turret also needed some additional attention. Since there isn't any detail on the turret sides (just as on the real vehicle), I will cut away portions on both sides of the turret so you can see through from both sides as well as down into the fighting compartment. Just as with the roof, I went ahead and cleaned up their ejector marks and sanded them down in preparation for painting since I don't know exactly which areas I'm going to cut away just yet. The turret roof will remain intact since the space next to the cupola mounts an ammo bin for the main gun and I wanted to preserve that...the ammo bin is only dry-fit in this pic to give an idea of where it will sit. I also constructed the rear turret ammo bins from the Interior Set PE. These had to be modified slightly in order to fit properly by removing the rear fold-up ends on the bins. These aren't deep enough for the cans to sit correctly and were snipped off with sprue cutters to allow for proper clearance. The tool drawer chest that sits between the two ammo racks was glued into position and the commander's turret traverse and light box was added to the turret side. Getting that in the proper position is crucial as it needs to line up with the rivets on the exterior as well as clear the turret ring on the bottom so some careful fitting was called for before gluing it into position.

With all that detail work done, it was now time to paint. I applied Testors Model Master Panzer Interior Buff enamel by airbrush and used my custom mix of Red Oxide primer for the various parts I'd missed the last time around.

Now it's time to start adding these parts together and working on even more of the details!

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, September 19, 2009 5:42 PM
Thanks Terry and Eric! Very productive day, I'm off to get some dinner with my wife and when I return I will have an update on the progress. Wink [;)]
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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, September 19, 2009 2:27 PM

Hi, Bill I think #100 really deserves a big two thumbs so far,Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]. Nice primer there, looks great from here.

Terry.

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Posted by Jester75 on Saturday, September 19, 2009 10:33 AM

Can't wait to see more Bill, starting to go into withdrawal waiting for the next update. I was thinking today would be a good day to model early, but I'll be busy watching my team get slaughtered (I hope we can at least keep it close) at 3:30.

Eric

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, September 19, 2009 10:28 AM

Mike, mind's already opened, it's just a matter of figuring out how to do the same to the model! Laugh [(-D] There are some design challenges for example with the rear engine deck hatches and clearance with the turret. That in turn raises issues with the layout of the turret relative to the fighting compartment interior. Believe me when I say that there's very very little room to maneuver with this little guy! I think what I might do in regards to the engine is pose the hatches closed but cut out their middles so that you can see in and provide some flexibility that way instead of trying to pose both hatches open. I really have to think this all the way through because of the possibility of cascading consequences and truly being put in a position of no-turning-back if not careful! Laugh [(-D]

 Marcus-Sirilicus wrote:
I'm a lil' late too the party, but that engine is looking something my-t-fine!!  Congrats on your 100th build, Bill.  Interested, as everybody else is, on what you plan on doing to show off that lovely interior your putting all this work into.

Is this going to strickly be an armor build?, or are you going to try and incorporate it into some type of Dio?        Just curious?

Marcus, not late, right on time! Thanks for the comments on the engine and the congrats on reaching #100. It is strictly an armor build, I don't normally incorporate my builds into a dio as a matter of personal choice/taste and with the amount of cut-away I'm planning it wouldn't look right in that kind of setting IMHO.

Today's going to be a good day for building, I can just feel it! Wink [;)]

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Posted by Marcus-Sirilicus on Saturday, September 19, 2009 5:15 AM

I'm a lil' late too the party, but that engine is looking something my-t-fine!!  Congrats on your 100th build, Bill.  Interested, as everybody else is, on what you plan on doing to show off that lovely interior your putting all this work into.

Is this going to strickly be an armor build?, or are you going to try and incorporate it into some type of Dio?        Just curious?

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Posted by redleg12 on Friday, September 18, 2009 8:21 PM

I see surgical cuts in the top of this model.....why have an engine if you don't see it.....why bother with interior if only ants can enjoy it????? Open you mind and your tank.

If you are going to do all that work to Franklin, find a way to show it....Otherwise glue the hatches closed and skip the interior!! Shock [:O]

Nice work to date!! Franklin is looking goodWink [;)]

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, September 18, 2009 8:07 PM
 dupes wrote:

Bill - no rest for the wicked, eh? Figured you might take a weekend off every now and then, especially before the momentous build. Wink [;)]

I second the vote for getting out the razor saw, btw...Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Marc, as I get deeper into this build the more inclined I am to cut away some sections. At the moment I'm looking at cutting away part of the fighting compartment roof over the driver's station, part of the turret roof at the rear to show the ammo storage that goes there, and maybe even part of the turret side on the commander's side to show the details there. I have to give some careful thought as to how to do that due to the various details that goe in different places as well as the structural integrity but I think it's doable. It's going to make painting and finishing things more of a challenge but I think it can work. The other alternative was doing a "sliced" approach but I can't get that to work out right from a display angle, at least not in my head! Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by dupes on Friday, September 18, 2009 1:24 PM

Bill - no rest for the wicked, eh? Figured you might take a weekend off every now and then, especially before the momentous build. Wink [;)]

I second the vote for getting out the razor saw, btw...Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by psstoff995 on Friday, September 18, 2009 12:43 PM
Wow- full interior for the price of a base DML kit, I'll have to try it out! Smile [:)]

-Chris

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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, September 18, 2009 11:38 AM

Thanks Doc!

 psstoff995 wrote:
Wow! Managed to jump in on this before your first update- you're off to a great start Bill!! Looking forward to this one. I was one of the Nashorns few votes, but as it was no contest, I'm glad the full interior 38(t) made it- it's looking really detailed so far- I cant tell, are any of these parts nonTristar AM yet? If not I'll totally have to pick up the later released combo kit as this looks great!!

Chris, thanks for the comments and gracious support of the winner! Wink [;)] All of the parts you see are Tristar...I'm not planning on using any outside AM for this one aside from the Griffon 3.7cm barrel and the LionMarc MGs.

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Posted by psstoff995 on Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:01 PM
Wow! Managed to jump in on this before your first update- you're off to a great start Bill!! Looking forward to this one. I was one of the Nashorns few votes, but as it was no contest, I'm glad the full interior 38(t) made it- it's looking really detailed so far- I cant tell, are any of these parts nonTristar AM yet? If not I'll totally have to pick up the later released combo kit as this looks great!!

-Chris

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Posted by doc-hm3 on Thursday, September 17, 2009 5:51 PM
 Bill, so she's up and running. Looking forward to this, your 100th.Party [party]

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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, September 17, 2009 12:18 PM
Thanks Orion, appreciate the comments and support. Thumbs Up [tup]
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Posted by stick man on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:50 PM

This will be exiteing to wach! I hope it gose well for you!

Smile [:)]

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:32 PM

 Mansteins revenge wrote:
I like what I see...some of that interior is going to be painted ivory, correct? Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]...

Thanks MR! Yes, there will be liberal use of elfenbein on the interior. Basically everything on the hull sides and floor that isn't painted red oxide will get the elfenbein along with the fighting compartment face of the firewall. I held off painting that portion for now until I get more of the details done/added so I minimize the number of times I have to go out in the garage with the AB. Wink [;)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:18 PM
I like what I see...some of that interior is going to be painted ivory, correct? Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]...
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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:12 PM

Marc, Anthony, Wayne (sheesh that sounds like a bad Roman joke but I digress!) thanks for the comments! Wink [;)]

 scratchmod wrote:
Looking good so far Bill. That motor looks great too. Since your going to leave the motor comp. hatches open, some fule lines and wiring would top things off.

I definitely have to pick up one of those Tristar kits, I have enough resin motors to do 5 variants and this is the motivation I need to get started on one or two.

Keep up the nice work Bill.

Thanks Rob! I've got quite a bit of references on the engine courtesy of the Nuts & Bolts series and a couple of diagrams from Spielberger and PT. Oddly enough there isn't a whole lot of external wiring on this guy due to the engine type and design but adding some water lines for the radiator and fuel lines for the gas tanks ought to be doable to add some detail. The compartment is tiny tiny once everything is added in so I have to be very careful on what I add as a result. The fit tolerance on the engine in particular is very exact. Tristar did their homework on this baby for sure even though there are some things missing like the various tool kits and a cover for the battery box but I can live with those being absent since it allows more of the engine to be seen! Wink [;)]

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Posted by lexesbenz on Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:17 AM
......Your a machine Bill, a machine of awesome model buildingness lol, yes yes corny I know.
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Posted by scratchmod on Monday, September 14, 2009 8:11 PM

Looking good so far Bill. That motor looks great too. Since your going to leave the motor comp. hatches open, some fule lines and wiring would top things off.

I definitely have to pick up one of those Tristar kits, I have enough resin motors to do 5 variants and this is the motivation I need to get started on one or two.

Keep up the nice work Bill.

 

Rob

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, September 14, 2009 7:58 PM

WOW Bill... you started #100 and my PC didn't crash or anything!  Oh wait... that was Y2K.

Well no matter... still looks cool and I am cheering you on to completion.

Marc  

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, September 14, 2009 6:06 PM
 the doog wrote:
Bill, I'd like to challenge you to find a way to build this model in a way that will show off the copious interior detail!

Can you get out the micro-saw and start some cutting? Wink [;)]

It would be a shame to build so much detail into it.....and then just leave it in there, unseen.

I agree totally. The amount of detail that's going to go into the fighting compartment alone is motivation enough to figure out some way to show the detail. Don't think I'll need to get out the razor saw although I did seriously consider doing this one as a cut-away at one point. Wink [;)] The top panels for the fighting compartment and rear engine deck are of a piece so I may just leave them loose...have to think some about the best way to do that.

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Posted by the doog on Monday, September 14, 2009 5:51 PM

Bill, I'd like to challenge you to find a way to build this model in a way that will show off the copious interior detail!

Can you get out the micro-saw and start some cutting? Wink [;)]

It would be a shame to build so much detail into it.....and then just leave it in there, unseen.

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, September 14, 2009 5:39 PM
 mg.mikael wrote:
"Hard-fought campaign between this one and the DML Tiger (P)".....I still wanted the dark-horse candidate to win, you know the Nashorn.Wink [;)]

Anyways, looks like your progressing nicely.Thumbs Up [tup] The engine looks fantastic, but did you find it to have alot of unecessary detail in certain areas? I got a Tristar Panzer I Ausf A(75% complete) still on the bench, and I though the trans and engine had alot of detail going to waste(since you'll never see it when it's glued in.)

The level of detail is impressive and, while a lot of it gets hidden away once installed, it still provides a lot more options if for example you wanted to show a diorama with a pulled engine under repair, wanted to have the engien loaded in a back of a truck, or sitting in a corner and a repair depot, etc. Rather than just detail only the parts that would be visible, you actually get a fully detailed engine and the possibilities are much wider as a result. That's a good thing IMHO. Wink [;)] Thanks for the comments! I secretly had hoped the Nashorn would've performed better but you never can tell how things like that will turn out. Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by mg.mikael on Monday, September 14, 2009 5:07 PM

"Hard-fought campaign between this one and the DML Tiger (P)".....I still wanted the dark-horse candidate to win, you know the Nashorn.Wink [;)]

Anyways, looks like your progressing nicely.Thumbs Up [tup] The engine looks fantastic, but did you find it to have alot of unecessary detail in certain areas? I got a Tristar Panzer I Ausf A(75% complete) still on the bench, and I though the trans and engine had alot of detail going to waste(since you'll never see it when it's glued in.)

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Posted by bbrowniii on Monday, September 14, 2009 12:59 PM
 wbill76 wrote:

 F Matthews wrote:
#35026 doesn't come with the interior. If Bill's like me, he bought either the interior or the tank kit before #35039 came out or was unable to find it when looking. I have the separate interior and #35026 and can't wait to dive into them-this thread is inspiring me to push aside some other projects and get started. I DO need to finish up my first Tristar 38(t) build before I do though. I'll be watching it closely-always good stuff!

That's exactly what happened...I picked up #35026 when it came out and it didn't have the interior and when Tristar released the B with interior #35029 I already had the kit...so later on when Tristar was threatening to go belly-up, I snagged an available interior set and stashed it away to go with it and there it sat until the time came for its debut. There's nothing different between the contents of the interior set #35032 and what's provided in #35039.

Good to know!  Because, I can tell you this - I am DEFINATELY going to pick up another one of these kits (with the interior this time) as I am loving it.  Tristar really did a nice job with this one, if you ask me.

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