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#12 Tamiya German Horch 1A mit 2cm Flak38 (Conversion)

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Posted by hughes2682 on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 4:30 AM

Edmund,

OH WOW!!! This is incredible.  How long have you been at this? Really?

Oh, by the way, what kind of wingy thingy did the prop fairy bestow upon you?

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by Schnobs on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:26 AM

 Laughing 1 Thanks for the grins guys! 

Build Update:

I approached the base as logical yet creative as possible.  First of all I had to borrow a cup of cat litter from the neighbor.  It was a little awkward but that is another story!  I flooded the base with Woodland Scenics Scenic cement and then applied the cat liiter and some woodland scenic fine ballast. I then used a pipette to flood the rocks to ensure they would stick.  Ithen dried it with a blow dryer and then primed with Tamiya Light Sand.

I then mixed up a 50\50 mix of Tamiya Nato Black and Red Brown to create shadows followed by Dark Yellow and Buff.

Next up was alternating oil washes of Burnt Umber, Raw Unber, and Sepia.  Then I dry brushed Buff, and Faded Grey.

 I then applied my weathered cacti and assorted roots I collected from our nrighborhood park.




It's not done yet but I thought I would give my public what it wants!!!    Laughing 2


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Posted by M1Carbine on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:27 AM

Hey Indy, I think he got my delivery today and whence opening the box and seeing that strange wingy thing he may have passed out and has not recovered yet.

 

Bob

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Posted by *INDY on Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:32 AM

After...no post from Schnobs all day........I wondered into the desert...........until it was time for me to post.  Ahh.....thank the Father.........good Wi-FI connection out here.

Return to us oh Schnobulent One............and post.

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Posted by hughes2682 on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:35 AM

Edmund,

Nice work on the cacti Yes  Those are going to look great the way you described how you plan on finishing them.  That base is going to look pretty darn sharp when you are done.  Yet again this is/ has been a blast to follow.

If you keep sampling your dios your wife is going to fit you for a helmut where you can't put anything in your mouth!Wink

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by M1Carbine on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 2:24 AM

Ed that really looks outstanding.  So tell me, after you ate that.....did you experience any colors man................LOL

 

Bob

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Posted by Schnobs on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 1:20 AM

Thanks Bob!

I only ate one!  I tried out Model Master Medium Green Acryl out on the cacti tonight. I still need to do some oil washes and dry brushing or probally misting of Buff or Deck Tan to bring out the spines when I paint the base hopefully tomorrow.

Here is a test shot of a more clumped approach crawling up the rocks.

 

 

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Posted by M1Carbine on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 1:01 AM

STOP EATING THE DIO ED!

LOL.........Love the cacti bro, looks like some Texas pricklypear.............no only if a 140 class white tail walked out...............Oh sorry.......Im dreaming of some backstrap.

 

Bob

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Posted by Schnobs on Monday, March 22, 2010 8:17 PM

 Psstoff995's lbro:  Thanks my friend.  i am glad you like them.  I can't wait to paint them.

Panzerguy:  Thanks I aprreciate you taking the time to post your support.  It's nice to know there is someone on the other side of the screen.  My wife wanted to know what I was cooking last night in her oven and when I told her she busted out laughing and when I told her they looked really tasty and I ate one she fell off her chair.  I have a sneaking suspicion she thinks I am a little wierd!

Boyd:  That's a good thought Boyd I used to use Insurgents to sit on!  Just kiddng that would be demeaning and insulting to someone that was shooting at me!   ROTFLSeriously though that is a good thought and I love my Milliput!

Marc:  Thanks Marc!! 





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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, March 22, 2010 7:05 PM

Edmund, that is fine work all around.  I love the guy on the hood... bonnet... ah... whatever

Marc  

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Posted by bbrowniii on Monday, March 22, 2010 3:07 PM

Edmund,

I'm like Panzerguy - just getting caught back up on your progress.  And, can I say, it is really impressive! 

May I offer one suggestion (and only a suggestion)...  The guy sitting on the hood...  When I was in Iraq, I learned pretty quickly just how hot the surface of the vehicle got after baking under the sun for any length of time.  For that reason, whenever I sat on the vehicle, I'd usually throw something - a rag, empty MRE case, something, onto the spot I was going to sit to insulate me from the heat.  I'd think your guy might do the same thing?  Particularly wearing shorts? 

Just a thought....

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by panzerguy on Monday, March 22, 2010 10:54 AM

 

 

 Edmund I'm finely getting caught up around here and gotta say that Horch looks awesomeYes! The poses of the figs look great and I'm looking forward to seeing those guy's all painted up. Nice progress on the base. I'm going to have to look into those rock moldsHmm.

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Posted by psstoff995's lbro on Monday, March 22, 2010 10:41 AM

Those cacti look great! Nice work Yes

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Posted by Schnobs on Monday, March 22, 2010 10:40 AM

Dave:  In second grade I went through a stage where I could not eat enough Elmer White Glue.  I would coat each finger and then eat it off!  My Dad was quite upset when he got called to the school for a conference about me.  The teacher presented her case is a very patient gentle way about her concerns and my Dad looked at me and said what are you Stupid %$&^#* &#%*^##) &$(%^@)*^*  My teacher was shocked but to me it was just Tuesday!  ROTFL My Glue eating stage ended that day.

Wbill: Thanks Bill yes you are absolutely on target this type growns in clumps or fields.  I will be clumping them closer together and have them extending up one part of the wall.

Andy: Thanks for the enthusiastic support Andy it made me laugh.  Yes, Bill's thoughtful advice is golden!

Karl: Yes they should look better clumped naturally and painted and dusted up.  I am looking forward to that.  This is the Hotch's 2 month birthday today.  My average buidl time is just about 1.5 months per build so considering this one included a scratch built conversion, scratch built trailer box and the Dragon Flak that makes sense. I figure about another 2-3 weeks for the base, figures, stowage and suprise details.  I want to have it ready for our Spring IPMS show on  April 17th so that will be my hard stop for this project.

When can we expect another armor subject from you Karl?  You are missed here!


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Posted by the doog on Monday, March 22, 2010 9:52 AM

That's a pretty unique addition there, Edmund. Nice work on the cacti.

You gotta get some kind of award for the longest running thread./build here in a while? lol

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Posted by deafpanzer on Monday, March 22, 2010 9:22 AM

WOW Edmund!  This is friggin' AWESOME! Yes Your forum is one of the sites I have to look first as soon as I log on.   

I guess you have no choice but to follow wbill's advise because he is from Texas Cowboy and he eats cactus for breakfast. 

Andy

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, March 22, 2010 9:14 AM

Edmund,

Cactii look good! The salt ought to be just right for scale representation of spines. Only thing I can recommend is to clump the cactii together a bit more. The type you have represented is a type of prickly pear cactus and they typically don't grow as independent "ears" and instead tend to spread out as clumps due to the way their roots work at the base. Just a very minor thought in terms of how you have them laid out at the moment, I think they will add tremendous visual interest to the base!  Wink Beer 

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Posted by hughes2682 on Monday, March 22, 2010 4:28 AM

Edmund, Edmund, Edmund,

Just don't start eating the crayons or the paste. LOL . I like the cactus in the ravine.  It looks like one of them picked up your thumb print (third pic, cactus below the rear wheel).  The salt should look "sharp" when you get the cactus painted. I like the composition in the fourth pic with the cactus in the side view.  Very well done!

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by Schnobs on Monday, March 22, 2010 3:13 AM

Wayne:  Tell May congrats and I wish the best toyou and her in her retirement.  Sounds liek yoru busy whcih is good for a guy like yourself otherwise you woudl be miserable!

Bob:  You crack me up my friiend!

Build Update:  Adam and a a few of my other modeling friends are always pasing links to great dios and techniques to each other and I often file them away for later use or reference. In this case Adam had sent me a link to a Dio by Paul Evans that has an excellent tutorial on how to make cactus which I followed almost to the letter I almost immediately start changing or modifying techniques sometimes to my advanatage and sometimes not.!  First of al I broke out my one package of Sculpey III Poymer clay and started making little disks for my castus and assembling each one.  I then preheated my oven to 250 degrees and baked the cacti for 15 minutes or unti they were golden brown.
 
They looked so delicous I almost ate one.  OK I did nibble on one!  Not bad probally close to what a Scooby Snack wodl taste like! Hey it was late and I was hungry!
 
I then applied some liqiid PVA glue and a light coat of sand to simulate spines and here you can se the final result before I paint them.
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Posted by M1Carbine on Monday, March 22, 2010 1:45 AM

Man this is so good Im getting little girly, giggles..............LOL

 

Bob

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Posted by Schnobs on Sunday, March 21, 2010 11:01 AM

Rob:  The pleasure is mine Rob to share this all of you and you have been very supportive to me since I joined the forum which really helped me stretch myself.  Yes I llike the guy on bonnet the best as well.  He is going to be fun to paint!  I am probally going to have to close their hands or resculpt them whcih I am looking forward to.  That is probally going to be my next frontier sculpting my figures.  I will probally start with AM heads, biits and hands and sculpt the torsoe, legs and arms with Apoxy Sculpt and wire.  Being able to create my own poses and figures at will would grant me God Like Powers!!!!  Hahahahhahahahha!

Jason:  Steve first of all Jason I appreciate all the thought you put into your response!  I served in a Vulcan Gun Crew durng the first Gulf war and I pulled on that experience for this emotional peice. 

The Horch along with the Chevy and my AS 42 have all been built as seperate pieces and will be initially displayed that way will ultimately go into a North Africa Oasis Diorma where the the Iltalians and Germans will be at breifly stopped at an oasis Well and the LRDG patrol will unexpectly on all parts crash the party.  The name of the Dio is tentalively" Unexpected Guests".  I wanted to capture the moment right before this unexpected violent encounter with all three common gun trucks respresented.
 
I hope that makes sense and sheds more light on a murky subject whish is my creative subconcious.
 
The figure on the Bonnet is a perfect fit and he is designed to sit on a Jerry can but he looks so natural there that even his boot heel curls arond the bumber. I like him very much and I also like he is the only figure in a differnet uniform which accentuates his aloneness is that makes sense.
 
Also during the hottest part of the day there is no shade.  Vehicles and structures do not provide them unless it is early or late in the day and the angle fo the sun is just right.  It very surreal and the last think I ever wanted to do was to get on the ground where the sand fleas and rock spiders and scorpions are.  As far as the rifles Jason they never leave your hand ever.  You sleep on them, you point with them, you lean on them, you cry on them, you rely on them for you life and your buddies life, and every spare moment is spent caring for them.  The figure is using the rifle to steady and support his crouched postion and the figures are provinding security and what I envision is that they are on a rise on a desert where often it so flat and appears featurelsss and you can see the curvature of the earth which I beleive is about 8.5 miles, but the dips and depressions can hide huge elements of men and equipment.  The two rear guys are providing scecurity while the two front guys are hydrating.
I hope this makes it more clear what I envisioned and of course I am pulling form my own experiences which colors the piece.  Thank you for taking the time to comment it is always welcomed!
Wayne:  Hey there you are it not like you to not be present during a desert themed piece! Thank you Wayne for the kind comments and the depresion is still a work in porogress I am going to see if I can add some stands of static grass and more rocks and sand.  I had to let it set up overnight and get a fresh perspective today.!  I have lots of equipment and stowage and figures to do.  I also have some wildlife and maybe a skull or two to add or wreckage in the bottom of the ravine.  My head is roiling with the possiblities this morning!
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Posted by SuppressionFire on Sunday, March 21, 2010 8:38 AM

schnobs

The Flak truck and ammo trailer look great! I will try some of your techniques in the future.

 Im sure your figures will turn out awesome as well... Just im having issues with the poses. The desert heat beats down without mercy and any breaks if at all the crew would seek refuge from the sun. To me the poses are more 'beach party' than tired desert combat soldiers. The two drinking from canteens would be seeking shade created by the truck, the soldier crouched would be more relaxed and not gripping a 10 lb rifle unless it was needed. Possibly the standing crew leader would be searching the sky with binoculars while the crew rested in the shade of the truck.

 Please consider this 'constructive criticism' and not 'rivet counting' or sarcasm.

Jason ~

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Posted by scratchmod on Sunday, March 21, 2010 7:54 AM

Brother this is freaking awesome. Not only does the model look great, but now those figs added to it is fantastic. I'm with Bill as far as the guy on the hood goes. The relaxed sitting/drinking position is perfect.

Now the base is looking familiar, and VERY well done so far. I like the way you do the bases and ground work Ed. The pic of the other base that you mailed me ( sorry for not replying by the way) is another good examle of the talant you have my friend. I keep thinking, what will Ed be doing next !?! Hopefully not a wreck or I'll have to find something else to do Wink.

Always a pleasure to follow your blogs ED.

Rob

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Posted by Schnobs on Sunday, March 21, 2010 12:49 AM

Build Update:

I carved and glued down the mutiple foam cores and latherred in my Elmer Wood Filler follwed by an hour wait and then used some PVA glue to glue and press down the woodland scenics Hyrocal rocks I created with a coupel of their rock molds.  I then carved some erosin channels and I am going toto let it dry overnight and start painting it up tomorrow.

Here are just a few pics of where I ended tonight.

 

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Posted by Schnobs on Saturday, March 20, 2010 4:08 PM

Wbill:  I renamed my camera the magic error Magnifaction Device.  Glad you like it Bill the figure on the hood is my favorite at the moment

Bob:  Thanks for the extra pair of eyes last night Bob!

Build Update:  I changed gears today and decided to start out focusing on the base since I will have so many wasted hours waiting for setup and paint to dry that I can then focus on final figure prep.  The idea here was to flat out steal from Indy's Clash in Tunisia Dio thread that i highly suggest making it over for a gander it's a a great read!  Here is the link for yoru convenience.

/forums/t/120003.aspx

I pciked up the obligatory Basswood Oval base from Michaels and also picked up the same  Rust-Oleum Aged Iron Textured paint that Indy used for such good effect and sprayed multiple thin coats to build up interest and texture as you can see here.

I wanted to really add some depth and height to this base to really depict the ruggedness and rockiness of the North African desert and again I "borrowed" from Indy and built up the surface in receding foam steppes to add hight and then because my house is a "No Rock Chipping Zone" made plaster roacks using Woodland scenic molds. Here is the mockup of where I am at the moment before constuction begins!

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Posted by M1Carbine on Saturday, March 20, 2010 1:09 PM

Ed - seeing it now after our discussion last night..............It looks dead on bro.  Perfect with 4 figures.

 

Bob

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:41 AM

The camera knows all and sees all that's for sure Ed! Propeller I kind of figured it might be a case of the camera magnifying the effect. The figures you've got planned for this one are going to definitely up this one a notch. The guy on the hood taking a drink adds just the right "relaxed" air to this one IMHO. Yes

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Posted by Schnobs on Saturday, March 20, 2010 4:20 AM

Thanks I am glad you like him! The original picure that inspired me continued to inspire me so I got creative and used the extra Kubelwagen Driver which is the standing figure and converted his arm form resting on his hip (Don't Ask Don't Tell) to resting against the weapon to steady himself. I also used one of the fiugres from my new Steyr that Gaz is presently building and also one more from the Africa korps figure set and I added a rifle.  I think I am going to stick to four figures unless I get inspired!

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Posted by model maniac 96 on Saturday, March 20, 2010 12:37 AM

Very cool, I like it! That pose really is killer, great job!

 

 

 

          Thanks, Jim

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Posted by Schnobs on Saturday, March 20, 2010 12:15 AM

Dave you are really nice to me thank you!

Yes I often build and assemble with my camera in order to catch any mistakes before primer.

Build Update:

Started Base and Figure placement today.  I think it is a real art to get a natural pose for a figure and some figures call to me OOB like the New Wolrd Minature figures for the chevy but this really called to me last year so I picked up the DML Deutsche Africa Korps figures just to ge the guy sitting on the Jerry Can with the sweater.  I dumped the head for Hornet AfrikaKorps Peaked Cap figure and traded the drinking cup for a rifle and set him the bumper and it was a perfect fit after some work.  I still have to fill seams and primer and I might change out the hands.  more figures coming....

 

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