#12 Tamiya German Horch 1A mit 2cm Flak38 (Conversion)

Edmund,

I think the dimensions of that trailer are all wrong, and you have to change it, now!

........... LOL!

JUST KIDDING!  ha ha ha!!!

It looks great--scratchbuilding with PE accents--man, you're just hitting a new stride it seems every time I look in!

It was great to talk to you and get everything resolved too, by the way! Looking forward to seeing you soar on this one too!

Build Update:

I believe I have completed the trailer tonight.  I might add a few details tomorrow with a fresh perspective. 

Sorry Bob you must of been posting when I was replyng to Adam and Dave,  Thanks man I am glad you like it was a nice project to get my feet wet.  It was wonderful to build somrthing without trying to figure out a pictograph assembly puzzle! 

Edmund,

"How hard could that be".   The quote that usually starts it all.  I first heard that from my wife starting with the remodel of the kitchen several years ago.  I'll spare you the graphic details. Yes, we are still on speaking terms.

Thank you for the info on the trailer.   

Cheers

Dave

Adam:  LOL!  Thanks Adam it does look like a little bycycle powered ice cream truck doesn't it!  It looked a little bit like a coffin as well when I was building it which generated a lot of Diorama ideals.  Thanks for the support and taking the tme to post it is appreciated.

Dave:  Thanks Dave I have a few different versions of the Flak 38 and most of them come with the Sd.Ah.51 trailer with out the ammo box so I thought why not give a little scratch building a try.  I told myself it's just a box how hard could that be?  Turns out it can be very challenging but doable.  The hinges came from extra PE from my AS 42 build which were originally supposed to be 90's mounted vertically ont he side of the vehicle.  I dressed them up with some MIG PE bolts and added some evergreen strip underneath them to get the hinges level and walla hinges!

I finished the remaining details on the ammo box last night.  The font hitch mount took some thought as well.

NICE!  trailer looks awsome brother.

Bob

Heavens ! Look at how you roll ! Looks great to me---look Ed-you are a scratchbuidler !!

 Oh?? Thier AMMO !       Got it<----

Well Ed...you did it again, you are the bomb   

Your work is awesome Rob and I am still thinking about doing a burnt out sand drifted over 42 Chevy.

Small Build Update:

I managed to flesh  out some additional details on the ammo box.  This was a lot of math and use of my 1\35th scale ruler!

I like it and this is going to be a pleasure to watch, lots of color. Glad to hear my tech and site is of use to you Ed, if it helps atleast one person then I'm a happy camper. I've been working on stuff for the techniques page, different ways to paint raw metal and should have it posted on the weekend.

looking forward to the next up date as always. keep up the good work my friend.

Rob

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Rob I didn't take it that way at all.  I want to paint as well, but I can discuss my plan which is going to be leveraging your work on your Matilda.  I plan to use the HP method to show multiple layers of metal, primer, German Grey with Dark Yellow over spray with lots of chipping and erosion.  I should have at least three layers of HP so it wiil be fun.  I believe the interior of the vehicle will be mostly Grey with the I-Beams primed rusty steel.  I plan to have quite a bit of color shifts between the major components which are the weapon, vehicle and trailer.  I read your chipping on Scratchmod.com avidly well done M8!

I wish you could see them as well.  I plan to put all three in a Dio so it should be fun.  Masterbox just released a really cool figure set I would like to use.

http://www.mbltd.info/3559.htm

Check out what is coming very cool for us Desert Rats!

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I love that company!

I don't mean to be pushy Ed, Just that I really like the way you paint and the in depth how to that goes with it. Oh and I forgot about the scratch trailer, which is looking great by the way. From what you've built in the past year, your painting (and building) gets better with each model, the reason I can't wait to see this guy with some paint. I'm also curious as to how you'll do the chipping on it. I will of course wait patiently for the paint my friend.

When this one is done you should take a pic of all the North Africa vehicles together. I'd love to see those in person someday.

Rob

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Thanks Karl,Wbill,Bob, Suppression Fire, Marc, Wayne and Rob for your time and comments.

Build Update:  Hey Rob you think you are antsy I am a week or more away from paint!  I just started scratch building the ammo box for the Sd.AH 51 today and I have quite a bit of detail work on it to go.  Here are progress shots so far.

looking good Ed. You know I like to see all that scratch stuff, but the paint is what fires me up. Paint Paint Paint Please.

Rob

www.scratchmod.com

I hate it when I have so much catching up to do.  But there are times it is well worth it.  This is one of those times.  Nice.

Woah! Fellas...

Let the overlords that are judges at a national level IPMS contest decide how accurate the positioning of the Flak gun on the truck decide. Im sure even if it is installed backwards it would only be a minor deduction for inaccuracy. With all the field conversions the Germays made under harsh conditions perhapse a few were installed in this position?

I am the last person to pipe up on accuracy, spelling or historical data. I never research my replys in the forums, prefering to draw from memory of all the documentries I have seen over time. Many of which have inaccurate information which I have noticed as well.

At a certain point I gave up research and rivet counting my builds. Prefering to 'get R done' and scratch built modifications if  they look cooler than the kit supplied details. Its all in the eye of the viewer, depending who and where it is viewed. If this finished conversion wins first place then the positioning wasn't a huge issue. If it doesn't place at all then obviously it was. If its for your den and viewing by friends and family I wouldn't loose sleep over it as i'm sure it will look fine to them. 

Nothing should have been edited IMO.  As a former soldier adn I am sure other Vets will back me up on this.

Field Mods:

We as soldiers have it beaten into our heads to "ADAPT AND OVERCOME"  We will do what we need to do to "make it work"  no two mods will ever look the same....................period.

Ed your work is stunning and there is a lot of things a modeler of ANY caliber could learn from you.  I have to admit I am getting a little tired of some of the critiques some on this site give.  Some are great and some are arrogant to the point of really pi$$ing me off.

This mud roller has got this Soldiers back ALWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bob

Hey Wayne,

Have you been looking through my window.? That is exactly what  I have planned.

Great minds think alike!!

I have edited my previous post and will PM Karl shortly.

Regards.

On the topic of the location of the outrigger, Edmund's right in terms of the area you've highlighted in your pic Karl. What you're pointing out is the base of the gunner's seat where it attaches to the circular base of the gun platform. In the poor quality of the blown-up photo I can see where it might look like the front support (actually the rear support, this is the one that had the tow point for the regular towed gun) but that's not an accurate identification of the part in question.

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Looks great, I can't wait to see it with paint on it!

                  Thanks, Jim

YEAH ED!

Bob

Hello Karl,

First of all thank you for taking the time to stop by and leave a comment it is appreciated.

This conversion initially was a field mod and went through many variations before an official conversion was sanctioned and produced. Real world references bear this out with various heights of the weapon deck and various orientations of the gun. I you look at this real world reference you will see it supports my orientation choice.

If you look closely you will see that the rear outrigger is at a 45" degree angle and the front outrigger is oriented towards the front of the vehicle.  Closer examination of the Driver compartments show how close the front weapon shield is to the back of the driver seats and that orientation is possible only with the font outrigger entering the Driver compartment.  Believe me Karl i have played with every orientation my imagination and friends could come up with to replicate this photo.  This vehicle is represented with and without a tilt in real world references and also as stated earlier various gun deck heights.

Warmest Regards,

Edmund

Neat vehicle, Edmund! Nice job on it too.

I don't understand why you don't just turn the mount around?

Ed, ingenious method to mounting the gun.  You never cease to amaze me my brother...the lessons I am learning are so valuable.  Looking sweet bro.

Bob

Bill:  Thank you Bill you are so sweet that I am gaining calories just reading you post!  Gack!!  That's too sweet! 

Build Update:   Sorry Gentleman real life has demanded my attention since Saturday night so I spent three days thinking about how to approach the mounting system for the outriggers of the weapon. I cut a divot into the front I-Beam in order to level the weapon platform and then used some 1\35th scale Rebar that Adam sent me which were the result of an Industrial accident but look remarkably like 1\35th scale Rebar.