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#12 Tamiya German Horch 1A mit 2cm Flak38 (Conversion)

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Posted by *INDY on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 1:17 AM

WoW......NICE HEADLIGHTS  !!!

nice-headlights.jpg - Funny Pictures for MySpace code

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Posted by Schnobs on Wednesday, February 3, 2010 1:04 AM

OMG!  Surprise

Here is hours of work with Edward PE and Elf Production Headlights.  I am going to scratch built a two can Jerry rack tray for each fender as well.

 

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Posted by *INDY on Tuesday, February 2, 2010 9:19 PM

Steady Eddy !!!

I Know huh...It's what we choose to do with our time. You'd think it would be alot of fun---and mostly it is

But sometime it's about as fun as recieving one of these....

 

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Posted by Schnobs on Tuesday, February 2, 2010 9:10 PM

Hey Bob,

I am bending PE and Edmund wants to smash!!  My head hurts and I am worried sick I going to either loose it, bend it worng or screw it up!  Isn't Modeling fun!!!  Tongue Tied

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Posted by M1Carbine on Tuesday, February 2, 2010 8:42 PM

Never mind, it refreshed

ou mad builder you, looking awsome so far Sir Edmond Figgy

 

Bob

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Posted by M1Carbine on Tuesday, February 2, 2010 8:41 PM

Is it me....I cant see any pics Ed.

 

Bob

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Posted by Schnobs on Tuesday, February 2, 2010 6:15 PM

Thanks Wayne!

That's what the Germans who raised me told me!  Hard Work Rocks!!

Yes Tamiya did not use a smart bomb on the rear tailgate.  i even looked for all the variants of the Horch thinking that Tamiya just went after a less known variant with no luck!

Build Update:  Adam had mentioned how over scale the kit supplied shifters were and my reference photos showed a shift boot so I added that and replaced the shifters with hat pins which look great and are easy to work with. 

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Posted by Schnobs on Monday, February 1, 2010 8:33 PM

Rob:  Thanks Rob yes my buddy Ron has made two of them and he walked me through the process.  I do not think it will be that difficult.  We will find out together!

Adam : Thanks man and yes everyone Adam had suggested a working primer coat on the corrected pieces to c:heck my work and it was really effective and I will put that technique in the the scratch building toolkit!

If you want to see how large the backdoors really were check out the reference pictures!

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Posted by *INDY on Monday, February 1, 2010 7:50 PM

That door conversion is looking really good Ed ~! Nicely done Mate

http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww317/schnobs20/AFV%20WIPS4/TamiyaGermanHorch1Amit2cmFlak380-2.jpg

That was really brilliant shooting that "working primer" on there , mid-build. I wonder what made it occur to you to do that  Sad   Hhhmm, very smart anyways.Zip it!

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Posted by scratchmod on Monday, February 1, 2010 7:36 PM

Looking good Ed, A scratch built trailer, that's too cool,can't wait.

no need for a tarp,rust works just fine Big Smile

 

 

Rob

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Posted by Schnobs on Monday, February 1, 2010 6:24 PM

Build Update:

I finished detailing the open rear door and I shot a coat of primer to see if the correction could be seen.  I f you look closely you can see some of the corrections but I am thinking layer paint and  the hair spray method should take care of that.  If nothing else that is why God made Milliput tarps!

I found a few other real world references of the rear of the door and my Canadian friend Ron provided a number as well and he also provided the blueprints to make my own scratch built  ammo trailer!

 

 

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Posted by Schnobs on Monday, February 1, 2010 10:59 AM

LOL!  Now Lovely would be a perfectly acceptable adjective on a British modeling site because they are the most "civilized" barbarians I have ever had the pleasure to meet.  Love those guys they will but rounds down range and then sit down and have tea and discuss the pattern of lace doilies, and anyone that plays bagpipes over loudspeakers as they head to the FEBA have my respect!

Wbill once posted I had beautiful shells for my Stug III and my wife made fun of me for a week and would walk my work bench and stop and tell me that my AB was Hot!  She loves to tease just like I do!

Wayne will get you straightened out Grandpa's give the best advice!  Big Smile

 

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Posted by model maniac 96 on Monday, February 1, 2010 10:29 AM

GREAT looking work, is that better? LOL!! Don't worry, I will go bombard Wayne with my questions, he should be afraid..... HA!

 

 

       Thanks, Jim

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Posted by Schnobs on Monday, February 1, 2010 1:25 AM

Thanks Mike & Wayne for stopping by and leaving a comment.  Every post you leave Wayne makes me smile or chuckle!  Big Smile

Build Update:  I am still detailing the read tailgate and doors.  It was interesting and I am going to o leave some of the more fragile stuff for the end of the build right before paint.  I also still have to detail the inside of the door.  I plan to scratch build a Sd.Ah.51 Ammo Trailer like the following picture.  The DML kit came with the frame and wheels and I should be able to make the box or body of the ammo trailer from references I have found on the web such as this one.

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Posted by mm23t on Sunday, January 31, 2010 3:58 PM

Looking real good so far Edmund. I have the Tamiya Horch 4x4 which I'm guessing is a later kit, as it is molded in gray, but anyway the rear doors are like yours, so they havent made any changes. Oh well............

Medals are not "Won", they are "Earned".

Mike..

 

 

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Posted by Schnobs on Sunday, January 31, 2010 3:34 PM

Rob:  I am glad you like my humor and that is all it is I hope I did not offend or embarrass you Jim or anyone else with my sense of humor. My inner dialog filter brings down late at night so I sincerely apologize if my off beat humor offended anyone.  I just don't take myself that seriously and I forget that some people do and the last thing I want to do is to hurt or offend anyone!

Steve:  Thansk Steve!  Yes I plan to have both rear side doors open for a see through look over and through ammo cans and stowage and one door open in front.  I am not sure about the front doors yet.

Stay Tuned.........................

 

 

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Posted by panzerguy on Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:47 PM

   Edmund you really are becoming quite good at this scratch building thing lolWink.

   You've done a great job correcting those rear doors. The idea of leaving one of the back doors open to show the stowage underneath is cool. Especially since your going to display it in action. Will you also have one of the side doors opened?

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 user="RickLawler"]

Really fun work, Edmund.  I'm enjoying the heck out of watching you do your magic.

panzerguy:

  Heres a link to something that might interest you. Might be able to use it for a future build

 http://www.masterpiecemodels.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=20&Itemid=32

 

 

That Flak Sled is one of mine..  I am heading new kit development for Masterpiece Models and this was one of my first masters to make it into production. 

Thanks for pointing it out!!

 

Rick

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  You very welcome RickBig Smile!

 Small world huh? Our own Mr Lawler the designer of that flak sled! When I saw it I immediately thought of you. I figured you wouldn't be able to resist it.

And at that price neither will I.

 

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Posted by scratchmod on Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:49 PM

LMAO....you guys are too funny. Ed looks great buddy. Sorry for not posting much lately, you know the deal. Sorry for cutting our conversation short on Friday, the cold beers at the German were calling my name Big Smile

Keep up the posts, love the attention to detail, just LOVELY  he he he

Rob

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Posted by Schnobs on Sunday, January 31, 2010 10:10 AM

Bill:  Thanks Bill but this is more about my need for attention to detail and accuracy than courage.  Courage would of have been trying to let the inaccuracy remain..  I would of lost sleep over that one. I also have to go back and redo the shifters and also removed the remains of the seat cushion for the I-Beams. I thought I could let it go because no one could see it but no such luck! Big Smile

WBill:  All those Pre-Colombians look alike to me and we don't want to discuss what happens to the property values when they start moving into your neighborhood!!  LOL!!  Just teasing all you PC people out there!  I have an internal artist and an internal engineer inside me and they are always fighting fro control. The one that wins is the one I feed the most!  Thanks for your thoughtful comments and the historical correction Bill they are always welcome and appreciated!

Karl: Thanks Karl!  I had to let the Milliput set up overnight and now I will start adding back all the rear door detail and start some Shep Gizmology work on the inside of the door!

 

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, January 31, 2010 9:45 AM

Nice dedication to detail here, Edmund! The rear door area looks promising!

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, January 31, 2010 9:30 AM

Aztecs, Edmund, Aztecs! <former history teacher shaking head>. Cortez burned his ships and then went after the Aztecs, not the Incas! Propeller We'll just chalk that up to the late night and glue fumes this time, ok? Wink

Sounds like you're well on your way to developing full-scale rivetcounteritis (and no, contrary to popular belief, that's not a bad thing in terms of the attention to detail!). Very nice work on the rework of the doors, I like the idea of leaving one open and the resin canvas tilt replacement looks sharp too. Yes

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Posted by I make stuff on Sunday, January 31, 2010 3:20 AM

Kudos for the courage to correct something that also includes crossing the Rubicon--there's no going back, that adds to the presure --and the PAYOOF.

 

Looks great, Edmund!

Fruilboy Bill

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Posted by Schnobs on Sunday, January 31, 2010 2:21 AM

Jim!  You must turn off the computer and go talk to yourself sharply right now! Boys your age never in any circumstances use the word lovely to describe anything another man is doing!  Got it! If you have any further questions ask Wayne!  Big Smile

I decided to emulate Cortez!  Point me towards the Incas!!!

 

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Posted by model maniac 96 on Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:51 AM

LOVELY!!!! I really like the way that is turning out, I do think that it was ingenious how you used those I-beams on there, VERY nice!

 

      Thanks, Jim

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Posted by *INDY on Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:49 AM

Music to my ears

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Posted by Schnobs on Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:41 AM

I was kind of shocked how bad Tamiya missed on that one.  I will not touch plastic until i have researched and read.  I now look at some really beautiful well done models that are really beautiful but inaccurate!!!

I want both Gosh Doggit!!  Here is a progress shot of all the incorrect bits removed and filler din with my old friend I call Milli for short!  I also wanted to get some opinions on the Verlinden canvas top that I plan to use instead of the kit supplied lump of plastic,  I am thinking of keeping both doors closed and use this or cut one off and model it open so you can see load the cargo area with stowage and ammo.  What do you guys think? 

Your comment about the scale of the shifters is dead on  and you are correct there I said it for the whole world to read Adam.  YOU ARE RIGHT!!!  I am getting the music wire out now and I see that Tamiya must of been still suffering from that Plastic Shortage in the 70's because they left off the boot for the shifter which I will have to create from more Milli!

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Posted by *INDY on Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:16 AM

That's a pretty bad rendition of that rear panel to be sure Ed. Definatly a worthwile  thing to work over. I like the interior details alot--but had a thought there that those gearshift stalks look really overscale-thick, though, and would easily be replaced by (bent rod) Go ahead, make a joke about that--I know you want to  Sad

While we are talking acratchbuilding-I remembered that thing I read from Shep Paine that made me scoff---Now, I relize he is a great innovaters of our hobby, an importaint stepping-stone, but some of his advice was downrigtht bad. I remember reading him saying that it wasn't nessassary to buy styrene strip, because it's so easy to cut yourself, and that it's easy to cut strip with side-cutting nippers!!  I for one will sock every size I can find--and spend my time with other jobs----maybe it was big $$ back in the day?

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Posted by Schnobs on Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:14 AM

Hi Bill,

It came with both film and paper decals.  I decided not to use the film because I would just have to mask it and paint over it and would probably ruin the film trying to get the liquid mask off.  I will try to use the paper ones and build up "glass" with Future,  or pick up the Archer Transfer set for $4.99. 

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, January 30, 2010 11:26 PM

Bouncing right along with this one Edmund, the Eduard details are a nice touch. Did they include the dial faces as paper inserts? Sometimes the sets have themm and sometimes not is why I ask in case I get to one of these in the future. Wink Now bounce to work! Big Smile

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Posted by Schnobs on Saturday, January 30, 2010 10:25 PM

You guys are like my WIP Fire Team!  Big Smile

I am in the process of correcting all the errors on the rear tailgate.  Tamiya's effort is totally inaccurate!

Case in point  Kit Part:

Real world Reference Picture and you can see the rear doors are square with different detail

Let's Do This!

TTFN!  Bounce...........

 

 

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