#12 Tamiya German Horch 1A mit 2cm Flak38 (Conversion)

Man this is looking great already and he didn't even start painting..........................LOL

Bob

Edmund,

That PE adds a nice touch to the cab.  Wait until you try some of Abers freakishly small parts that require mulitple foldings.  That'll send your OCD over the top and you may come up with some words & phrases that'll make even yourself blush.  Just the thing for a fellow OCDer.  Mwwaaaahahahahah!!!!

Cheers

Dave

Rick:  Do you have a hand with $14.00 in it so I can pick it up!    Seriously though Rick I will pick this up in the future and will definitely ping you on how you were able to accomplish the wood "effect" on the sled.  It's really nice and very realistic!

Adam:  I should put a do not drink hot coffee while reading my posts disclaimer just to avoid litigation.  Apparently my WIP's are liked to seizures in Tony's case and TMJ in others! 

Build Update:

Big shout out to Adam for turning me on to Zap thin CA!  Great stuff steep learning curve!  I started the PE detailing of the interior of the cab and after hours of some whispered threats directed toward Edward Employees I was able to mount the proper PE pedals and PE floorboards and dash detail.

~EdMod~ Dang classy thread Mate ! Really fair & balanced without alot of that #@%$*)%#)(!@#(^&* that I read on some other builds---This ones got sand  and I imagine you busted a few gut with this

Quote Edmund:

"" Time wasting is for the weak or civilians!  Actually I got sidetracked by another project I just put to bed last night so now I can focus all my creative energies on this.  First of all great to hear about Shep's conversion I would love to see a picture of that.  After weeks of research and looking at many real world and model examples of this conversion I made the command decision to lower the gun deck into the vehicle and face the longer outrigger forward and into the driver compartment.  I have actually worked on small to larger cranes mounted on flatbeds and the outriggers would need to be over the axles for stability and the mounting system is key,  The Germans did not use Fuel Drums full of CA to mount their Flak38's on to their vehicles contrary to the model evidence I have seen!    ""

Coffee went everywhere when I read that--BUT thanks for it Ed!

P.S. The conversion is looking ship-shape too

Ed,

Yes on both accounts.  I did the Master, box art and the instructions.  It's very simple and straightforward - plus I'm always here to lend a hand if you should need it.

Rick

Rick,

My Magic!  I just read your latest build in MMIR! It was well done and well written as is your standard!  Thanks for sharing your talents with the community Rick.

My next build is going to be  Tamiya Steyr Leadwarrior Flak38 conversion so that gun sled would be perfect!   I just read an article oh how to make you own but this is phenomenal. Does the Masterpiece kit come with paining instructions in the box and did you paint the cover art because it is phenomenal!

Really fun work, Edmund.  I'm enjoying the heck out of watching you do your magic.

panzerguy

  Heres a link to something that might interest you. Might be able to use it for a future build

 http://www.masterpiecemodels.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=20&Itemid=32

 

That Flak Sled is one of mine..  I am heading new kit development for Masterpiece Models and this was one of my first masters to make it into production. 

Thanks for pointing it out!!

Rick

Thanks Karl I actually believe was a fairly common mod a number of years a go I am just a late Bloomer and I am a sucker for a deal.  I finally became a member of Ebay and this was my first purchase for $10.00, but  It is only a deal if you build it so here we are!

A cool project you've got going here, Edmund!

Nice to work outside of the mainstream a bit!

Thanks Dave!  Yes I read your email just a few minutes ago and isn't it every mans dream to have his own armor in the driveway? 

Edmund,

I really like how you're doing your own "field conversion".  Very slick!!!  How much to do up a 1:1 model?  You know just in case the eBay T-55 deal falls through.  Check your email.

Cheers

Dave

Build Update:

I have put a lot of thought into how the infrastructure would support the diamond plate and I also introduced two levels.  I built a frame out of I-Beams and I am also adding Diamond plate to the interior storage area and rear cargo storage area.  It should look cool.  See build pics below.

 I decided that since this vehicle will be at an oasis I plan to have one rear door, maybe both and both rear doors open for a see through peekaboo look at the primered I-beams and stowage and ammo.  I like the look and it should add one more element of detail to the overall presentation.

   Edmund I hear you on the how field mods could differ from unit to unit.

  Heres a link to something that might interest you. Might be able to use it for a future build

 http://www.masterpiecemodels.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=20&Itemid=32

 I like that first pic. From the looks on their faces I'm thinking this must have been early on in the Africa campaign

Steve:  Time wasting is for the weak or civilians!  Actually I got sidetracked by another project I just put to bed last night so now I can focus all my creative energies on this.  First of all great to hear about Shep's conversion I would love to see a picture of that.  After weeks of research and looking at many real world and model examples of this conversion I made the command decision to lower the gun deck into the vehicle and face the longer outrigger forward and into the driver compartment.  I have actually worked on small to larger cranes mounted on flatbeds and the outriggers would need to be over the axles for stability and the mounting system is key,  The Germans did not use Fuel Drums full of CA to mount their Flak38's on to their vehicles contrary to the model evidence I have seen! 

These were also field mods so there were probably examples of both.  Here are a couple additional real word ref pics a friend sent to me that are just excellent!

   Jeez Edmund you really dont wast any time do you?!  I'm looking forward to seeing more of the progress on this guy, especially the painting and weathering.

  In Shep Paine's book 'Modeling Tanks & Military Vehicles' in chapter six he has a step by step of this conversion using the Tamiya Horch and flak 38. Interestingly for the bed he uses a Damag half-track bed instead of scratching one. I have to say like your diamond plate better. He also has the gun platform attached to the bed with the long outrigger facing the rear. Bolts running through the holes in the end of the outriggers were used to attach it to the bed.. Some thing you may want to consider.

 Something that I find kind of funny is that he says for the conversion he had only one fuzzy picture to work with. Definitely pre Internet lol.

Thanks Dave, Jim, Wayne, and Bob for your comments and support!

Build Update:

 
I decided to get back on the Horch I rode in on!

Tripple

Bob

More great stuff, keep it coming! we want it!

     thanks, Jim

Edmund,

First it's the wheels that we find out about you.  Now you're shaving your kits.  Just how well ventilated is your bench area?  Do we need to assemble the troops for and intervention? 

As per your SOP this is coming along nicely.  I can't wait to see what you're going to do about this one. About the pictures you posted, I like the one of the back seat that had all of the clutter.  The canteens, grenades, misc equipment.  Even my 11 year old son liked that one!

Cheers

Dave

Bob, Wayne, Adam:  Hey Jay Leno called and he wants his job back!!!  Holy Gosh I am funny!

Wbill:  Hey Bill wasn't that a cool picture of the interior.  Should we go back in time and accuse them of the Verlinden Clutter?  Too bad i am not going to have a rear passenger compartment on this one but I have the front driving compartment to work with! 

Jim:  Thanks for riding along Jim you are always welcome!!

Build Update:

If I had known a year ago that my favorite part of modeling now would be blithely ignoring the directions and shaving off most of the molded details in preparation of PE and Scratch building I would have called you a Nutter!

The interior vertical supports are not mounted they are just in place to provide rigidity for the glue setup.  I will be shaving then down because I want the tread plate gun platform lower into the compartment.

Enjoy!

Adam..................LMAO

Oh yeah, I agree, long hair on guys---doesn't look too good. Technically Inaccurate actually.

OK Bob. Fire at will

Sweet stuff, I really like how that is coming along!

AgentG: Manly stuff huh? sounds like fun!

      Thanks, Jim

Rolling right along Edmund! Why do I have this sudden feeling that you're going to be stringing field mess kits, grenades, and water bottles all along the inside of the bed now?

The man wastes no time does he!!  Looking good Ed. You definitely do your research. I think the last pic is what you should do, it looks cool and would fit right in with the other North Africa vehicles.

Keep up the good work buddy.

Rob

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G - you should already be loaded..................LOL

Oh boy!  here we go......WooooHoooo.  more...more...more.

I have declared this a hippy free zone!  none need apply.................LOL

Ed as always brother, it going together beautifully.  Im dug in for this one.

Bob

Dave:  LOL!  I have to admit in all seriousness I love freshly painted wheels and scratch building the most!!  It literally hurts me to chip them up and weather them up before they ever had a chance.  I have learned that the wood sleds were only used in the Opel Blitz or other big tucks.  I have done a lot of research today because I was watching my Little guy most of the day so my wife could get errands done with the oldest.

Guney:  Thanks my friend!

Marc:  I build so I can get these gosh doggin images out of my head!

I thought some of you might enjoy a little history and nomenclature of the vehicle and some really cool reference pics I found tonight. 

The Horch 1a was the standard heavy passenger car of the German Army at the beginning of the War and saw action on all fronts and it's modified chassis was used as the basis for the 221/222/223 armored cars which I did not know that was cool to learn.  It was capable of towing light artillery and anti-tank guns. 

• Years of production:
  1937-1938 (Horch 108 Type a, b),
  1939-1940 (Horch 108 Type 1a, 1b, Ford Type EGa, EGb, EGd),
  1940-1941 (Ford EG Type 40), 1940-1942 (Horch Type 40)
  Overall production: 10036 (Horch - 8135, Ford - 1901)

Here is a variety of real world reference pics plus a really cool dashboard picture and interior that I shouted with joy when I found it!

Jeez dude.... you gotta come up for air between builds or your gonna pass out.