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Doog, I needed a water can myself, some time ago, and I decided to do them myself. Here's a link to the thread and little foto for you:

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By the way, I got my "WATER" lettering from a Tamiya M48 decal sheet, so please take a look, you might already have it.

Good luck with your project and have a nice day

Paweł

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Thanks, Mike and Hans--again, good info that I can definitely use. I may put off painting until I can get up to the LHS; won't be able to do that until at least Thursday.

Gotta find some of those cans too. AlI have here is WWII stuff, or purely modern stuff. Hans, where'd you get those cans?

If you have it layin' around somewhere, IIRC, the Italeri "US Equipment Set" has a couple of the "WATER" decals...

Sorry I could not get back sooner but my man Hans took good care of most things

The paint color is FS 34052 Marine Green...see the following website

http://www.paint4models.com/paintchart/paintconversionchart20100101a.html#

It will give you an FS # and the RLM colors and their model paint matches. Also has an on screen color chart, which is good for comparison

If you want straight from the jar....MM Acryl 4724 USMC Green....works great or mix your own

Rounds Complete!!

Hans von Hammer

Oh yeah, one more thing.. Although not ALWAYS done,  many units stenciled
"DIESEL" on the cans that were carried on  vehicles with diesel engines.  A percentage of the others were stenciled with "MOGAS" (Mil-speak for MOtor GASoline)for generator fuel... Also, some water cans were stenciled with the word, "WATER" as well... Even though the difference is obvious, it has to be "Private-Proof" as well.. If fuel MIGHT be put in a water can, it WILL be...

Also, there's a small "dummy chain" connecting the fuel can cap to one of the handles.  Don't need 'em on water cans, they're "flip-top"... Also, as I said earlier, the water can is lined inside with an enamel to prevent rust. So is the inside of the cap.  It's about the color of Testor's Model Master "Radome Tan", in case you decide to model one of the cans "open".

I'll have to see if I have any stencils or decals to model that. Luckily, I'm only going to have a few perfunctory ones around the tank, not a slew of them. Heck, I have to see if I even have any of the "correct" ones? I can probably stamp out those caps if I need to....much work to still be done...!

Thanks again, bud!

Oh yeah, one more thing.. Although not ALWAYS done,  many units stenciled
"DIESEL" on the cans that were carried on  vehicles with diesel engines.  A percentage of the others were stenciled with "MOGAS" (Mil-speak for MOtor GASoline)for generator fuel... Also, some water cans were stenciled with the word, "WATER" as well... Even though the difference is obvious, it has to be "Private-Proof" as well.. If fuel MIGHT be put in a water can, it WILL be...

Also, there's a small "dummy chain" connecting the fuel can cap to one of the handles.  Don't need 'em on water cans, they're "flip-top"... Also, as I said earlier, the water can is lined inside with an enamel to prevent rust. So is the inside of the cap.  It's about the color of Testor's Model Master "Radome Tan", in case you decide to model one of the cans "open".

It's what I do, Doog...

Hans von Hammer

 

 

Fuel can Left... Water, Right

Gotcha covered with the cans, had to edit.. You replied too quick, lol..

"Forest Green" is actually the that satin-gloss green used used by the Army, close to JA Army Green.. This's about as close a photo as I can find to what I'm talking about for US Army

USMC Green is closer to a dark Olive or Olive Green. Can't find a decent pic anywhere, and I don't trust color chips on computer screens..

Hans von Hammer

 

As for the fuel cans, the standard three-handled metal jerrycans were used... Water cans were metal with three handles as well, but had a different filler-neck and were enameled on the inside...

I can imagine you sitting there thinking "Who cares about the $#@^#%#'ed caps!" lol.

I read that the Marine Corps Green was "Forest Green".?!

the doog

Hans von Hammer:

Concurr with You & Redleg, Doog.. The Vietnam -era OD  was indeed more of a dark green and a bit more "satin" than flat, and the JA Green ain't too far off...

 

 

Thanks, Mike and Hans--I have hit a little snag--the base coat and the daylight has shown a couple of seams and blemishes that needed filling before I hit it with another coat of color here. Thanks for the input on the base color--I'm going to be doing a Marine Corps tank, actually--I hope I"m still in the ball park for their color?

Also--does anyone have a good photo of the "correct" style top for the Vietnam jerry can? I'm not sure what I'm supposed to have on mine?

The Marines had their own USMC Green color for AFVs during that era... It was lighter than the JA Green, but damned if I know the FS number off-hand..

As for the fuel cans, the standard three-handled metal jerrycans were used... Water cans were metal with three handles as well, but had a different filler-neck and were enameled on the inside...

Fuel can Left... Water, Right

Hans von Hammer

Concurr with You & Redleg, Doog.. The Vietnam -era OD  was indeed more of a dark green and a bit more "satin" than flat, and the JA Green ain't too far off...

 

Also--does anyone have a good photo of the "correct" style top for the Vietnam jerry can? I'm not sure what I'm supposed to have on mine?

Mikeym_us

Doog are those AFV Club tracks or Modelkasten? 

Doog are those AFV Club tracks or Modelkasten? 

Concurr with You & Redleg, Doog.. The Vietnam -era OD  was indeed more of a dark green and a bit more "satin" than flat, and the JA Green ain't too far off...

Karl - As far as the color.....yep, the VN era vehicles were a "darker" green and a good match is the  Tamiya JA Green. Also remember that vehicles of that era were not "dead flat" . A slight semi gloss would be closer.....at least before you weather.

OK.....the student looks great!! Nice to see a kid interested in our hobby

We prime so we can find.....better now than later.

As for the tracks......BEEEEEEE Careful.....they are delicate

Rounds Complete!!

Guys,

Thanks for all the comments, honestly. I feel like I didn't even work for them this weekend, lol.

Hans, that was pretty funny, if I do say so...

Narayan, thanks again for those manuals--lotsa great info in there! I'll be returning them this week; I'm pretty much done with them for now. I'm going to scan some of the details that are well-presented, and then you'll be seeing them soon!

Well, I have a small update. I didn't have the time, nor the proper paint to actually get the painting done-all I have now is a base coat of Tamiya Black Green--a really dark base coat. I've been doing my research, and apparently the green color in Vietnam used by the army was pretty "green"---much more so than the OD that we think of as WWII OD? I'm thinking of going with J.A. Green. It seems to match up with the colors I've seen in several photos. Of course, you know me--not really concerned with absolute color fidelity, as the weathering is going to change everything, but it's good to have a good starting point.

My student had a blast watching me airbrush and learning some tricks--cute kid, honestly, and asks a million questions...lol

Well, I sprayed the base coat....

I missed some darned knock-out marks here...gotta patch them up...

The tracks are a breeze to put together once you get all those stupid sinkholes out of them!

You just slide the links into the end connectors--I'm sure that Bill has covered this before? Sorry if it's redundant...

The hardest art is getting the row of other connectors onto all of the track link ends...just snip them off with a razor blade or exacto.

Cool. One length is done. Rinse, repeat...

I'll be getting to the painting of the color coat tomorrow...patience is a virtue.....

Is that thing made from Big Macs?  Because I'm lovin' it.

Karl, Glad those manuals come in useful. All the details add up. The texture looks good too, well done. You

Me on my soapbox for a sentence:Texture has to be one of the most important and overlooked aspects of a sureface. If the texture isn't right, no matter how accurate the colour, it will always look a bit off.

Keep up the great work.

Needs some baking-soda texturing...

the doog

 

 

 

'ya haven't even painted it yet and it already looks good enough to eat..............

the doog

and, my "date" for tonight.....

Nice "Date".         

     All night long, eh? 

the doog

 

Give it to me, guys! See anything?

I see a fantastic build, can't wait to see paint on this baby.

Josiah

Everything on this project looks great but, I really like the cast effect that you've done and I bet this is going to look real sweet once painted!

Hey, thanks for all the positivity, guys! I do appreciate it!

I'm working on the tracks right now, and will be getting around to painting it tomorrow when my student comes over to learn how to use the airbrush.

Zokissima, I've done some modern stuff before; mostly Leopards. After this build, I have a definite "modern" piece I'll be building--something really different for me. Stay rtuned!!!

Can't wait to see what the painting will turn out like on this one. I can't recall seeing a modern-ish armor build from you yet.

Very nice work....that detail master hose is nice stuff.....can never have enough for hoses, cables, etc. Wish I could find something similar in rolls.

Love the nicked up rubbers (keep your minds clean)....some of those would be a bit too deep at 1 to 1 but at 1 35 it makes a statment. nice touch.

Keep your directions clos and your putty closer!!

Outstanding!!

Rounds Complete!!

Looks good Karl,looking foward to you giving it the Doog weathering treatment.

Lots of neat details Karl

Roll that barrel of OD out.

Tony Lee

Man, she's looking great Karl.  You have done some great work on it.  Can't wait to see it painted.