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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Sunday, September 26, 2010 9:10 PM

This is going to be fun to watch.  Getting the running gear on is half the battle.  Looks good so far.  Will be looking forward for next weekend to see the progress.

Rob

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Posted by deafpanzer on Sunday, September 26, 2010 9:18 PM

FREAKING AWESOME that you went for this Jagdpanther! Yes  Why?  My wife gave me the most recent DML kit Jagdpanther with zimmerit for my 40th birthday last June so your WIP will be very helpful as usual.  Safe to say that you have saved my marriage because I will not run out to buy one this time... thank you Bill! Beer

Andy

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Posted by scratchmod on Sunday, September 26, 2010 9:25 PM

The man wastes no time, and will reach the 200 mark in no time. Off to a great start Bill.  Yes Gotta love the Sunday updates from wild Bill, like opening a model magazine.

You da man Bill

Cheers

Rob

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PS

Bill I finally got around to buying some MK tracks (T-72 tank) after seeing all of those great builds of yours. I paid $10 for them at the show.

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Posted by disastermaster on Sunday, September 26, 2010 11:29 PM

The guy is just a machine.......http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e105/CommentCrazyGirl/Smileys%20Action/Office%20Computer/LoScrigno_faxsmile.gif

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, September 27, 2010 5:40 AM

Well.....I am glad to see someone was at the bench while a bunch of us were off at a show!!Big Smile

Hey.....if you open the box, set up the bench and just read the directions thats progress.!

Hummm....that suspension looks mind numbing!!

Your out of the starting blocks!!

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by Hinksy on Monday, September 27, 2010 5:56 AM

Sweet!

You've gotta love these big Dragon Kitties!

The susension is a work of art in itself! It looks the same as when I built my Dragon Panther G. It looks mind numbing Redleg but is actually a lot of fun!

I had a good look at your website Bill - VERY impressed! Yes

Make sure you blog this one buddy!

ATVB

Ben Yes 

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Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, September 27, 2010 6:04 AM

Wow Bill is at again,Watch and learn !!

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, September 27, 2010 6:30 AM

WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG!

Marc  

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Posted by Nachtflieger on Monday, September 27, 2010 6:41 AM

Ahhhhhh, another WIP from Bill! Excellent!

Nate

 

 

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, September 27, 2010 9:15 AM

Thanks guys, appreciate all the interest!

Andy, just doing my part...glad to hear I'm no threat to your marital bliss this time around! You've stumbled on the perfect excuse though, pre-emptive stash acquisition! Stick out tongue

Rob, the 200 mark is a looooong way off. Assuming a build rate of 10 per year (and the fact that this one is #108), I should get there around the 2020 timeframe if nothing happens between now and then! Propeller

Ben, you're right about the heritage on these kits. They share a lot of the same parts as the DML Panther G kits right down to some of the parts being labelled on the sprue as "Steel Wheel". Not an uncommon thing these days, there are lots of parts marked as "not for use" as well. Glad you like the site and hope it's a good resource for you.

BeerMarc, your post put a smile on my face for a Monday morning, always a good thing! Big Smile Weekend building is how I get away from the day-to-day stresses of the work week and when I miss one or have it shortened, I feel it for a while. That's why the period of time in the summer when I couldn't build due to the contractor work on the house was the absolute worst! Propeller

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Posted by panzerguy on Monday, September 27, 2010 10:27 AM

    I've said it before and I'll say it again you  Mr. Plunk are a bad influenceWink.

  I've been trying to not pick up any new kits till I got a few from the stash completed. While at the  AMPS show I even had the Tamiya Wespe in my hands but managed to talk myself down. But with the GranitCon show in about three weeks I may have to stay away from this wip till after the showWink.  

"Happiness is a belt fed weapon"

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, September 27, 2010 5:39 PM

THERE'S NO SMILING IN MODELING!

WELL... IS IT DONE YET?

 

Ok Ok... seriously.  Starting the week with a smile is a good thing.  Glad I could help.

Marc  

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, September 27, 2010 8:03 PM

Sorry to be such a destructive influence on you Steve! Propeller You should've gone with the Wespe, that way you wouldn't be forced to abstain until GraniteCon! Wink

Marc, I will promise to keep a straight face during my time at the workbench from here on out. Right up until the time I stick myself with an Xacto that is! Stick out tongue

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, September 27, 2010 8:16 PM

wbill76

Marc, I will promise to keep a straight face during my time at the workbench from here on out. Right up until the time I stick myself with an Xacto that is! Stick out tongue

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by panzerguy on Monday, September 27, 2010 8:53 PM

[quote user="wbill76"]

Sorry to be such a destructive influence on you Steve! Propeller You should've gone with the Wespe, that way you wouldn't be forced to abstain until GraniteCon! Wink

/quote]

 Bill  I'd say your more of a constructive influenceWink

  Unfortunately I'll be abstaining at GranitCon and the rest of the shows this year also. Made  a promise to myself  to not buy anymore armor till I get the stash down to twenty kits, theres about  forty now.

   That doesn't mean I still wont be picking up figs and AM stuff thoughWhistling

 

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 12:08 AM

Another gem of a subject. I've got the older Tamiya kit and was wondering if I should upgrade to Dragon's. Personally, I think I'll save it for when I'm in my 60's and blind as a bat. Less parts.

Are you doing the striped-camo on her? Did your kit come with the DS tracks?

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 9:59 AM

Steve, sounds like a good plan! I too practice "stash management" and have a set threshold of the number of maximum kits allowed at any one time...although I have to admit mine is 80 and not 20! Big Smile

Eric, this one is the standard Smart Kit and the production timeframe is outside the window when zim was applied so it has the normal Magic tracks vs. the DS tracks. I am leaning towards the striped camo of the sPzJgAbt 654 but not 100% committed just yet. Wink  

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 11:23 AM

Very good Bill. Do you dislike the magic-tracks? I know your a hardcore MK fan, but to me if the kit tracks are good enough, then it doesn't seem to make fiscal sense to replace them. That's just my conservatism talking. Embarrassed

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 2:11 PM

Nothing against Magic links per se and they do have their uses...but I've gotten so comfortable with using workable tracks in terms of the benefits they bring (easier sag, more flexibility in painting and weathering, ability to work on them in small chunks of time for assembly, etc.) that the added cost isn't a concern for me. Magic tracks still require clean-up and can be fragile even when constructed in runs and allowed to set-up thoroughly and, for me, are a more stressful exercise vs. working with workable tracks as a result. On the Pz III N Winterketten build for example I didn't have a choice...and saved the tracks to as far to the end as I could as a result because I needed huge blocks of time to work with them both for clean-up and actually assembly/set-up time. While workable links have their own trade-offs, for me at least they are worth it in the long run. Smile

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, October 3, 2010 8:45 PM

This weekend's efforts were very productive and a lot of progress made. First up was to continue from last time and complete Step 3. This step calls for all the road wheels to be installed and this was skipped until after painting but I did go ahead and assemble and install the radiator and fans for the interior. The instructions have a small pitfall here if you're not careful, you have to make sure the end with the slots is at the back on both sides otherwise when it comes time to fit the upper hull with the grills, things won't fit properly.

Steps 4 and 5 deal with the rear hull plate and its installation into the lower hull and I reversed the order of the steps. The instructions would have you add all the detail to the plate first, then install it, and that of course makes things harder in terms of getting everything to fit properly and line up as it should. So I installed the plate to the lower hull first and did a test fit with the upper hull to make sure the alignment was correct. For the hull details, I added everything except the clear part for the rear Notek light and also assembled the jack but left it separate for now to make it easier to paint that area before it is installed. I also used a drill bit and pin vise to deepen the look of the air cooling pipes since the parts were molded hollow but not deep enough for my tastes.
I also added the tow shackles from Step 2 but didn't glue them down so that they remain free-swinging.


Step 6 is a simple step, it adds the cast collar for the gun mount along with the hull MG mount and the periscope for the driver. Step 7 assembles the hull MG and installs it into the ball mount so I combined the two as a single effort. You can assemble the multi-part MG which is highly detailed if you want but none of it will be seen...so I took a shortcut and only used the barrel portion, J28, and glued that into position in the mount. The fit of the cast collar doesn't exactly correspond to the shape of the cut-out in the hull, so I needed to use small amounts of Squadron White putty around the edges to fill the slight gaps that were present. I used a small amount of poster blue tack putty to mask the clear portion of the periscope that would be visible after painting and painted a small amount of MM non-buffing Metalizer Steel on the back side to create a slightly reflective surface that will still show through once the rest of the periscope is painted.

Step 8 deals with the construction of the main engine compartment access hatch and also adds quite a bit of detail on the rear engine deck with the various fuel port covers, lifting eyes, etc. I did need a small amount of putty around the catch for the crew compartment rear hatch as the opening provided was larger than the small tab on its base.

Step 9 deals with the assembly of the gun cleaning rod tube and I skipped that for now and will come back to it after the upper and lower hulls are joined. Step 10 adds the large grates for the engine deck along with their PE mesh grills but I only added the grates for now to help stiffen the rear deck a bit and avoid potentially damaging the grills when the upper and lower hulls are joined. Test fits had shown that that was going to require some major help and I didn't want them to get damaged in the process.

Before the upper and lower hulls could be joined, the main gun had to be assembled and prepped for installation into the upper hull. The assembly takes place in Step 15 so skipping ahead to that step showed that the breech and external portions of the gun needed to be assembled separately. The breech is relatively straight forward, just the two halves of the breech plus the recoil housing on top. This joins to a trunnion mount that then is trapped against the collar from the inside using the large square/rectangular piece T21. If you don't glue the pins on the trunnions mount into T21, the gun will remain free to elevate but the weight of the barrel portion is too much and the gun will droop as a result. In order to get the right elevation pose, I avoided gluing the trunnion mount just yet.

The gun barrel assembly is a multi-part process and the instructions contain an error in directing you to use TF3 as the base of the muzzle brake. The d-shaped opening on that brake is not aligned properly and instead you need to use part Q2 to get the right arrangement. The barrel is molded as one piece and only slight sanding was needed to remove the barely visible mold seam top and bottom. Once the muzzle brake had set up, I used a sanding twig to carefully remove the join seam on it and then glued it into position before installing the barrel into the mantlet.

After everything had set up properly, I installed the breech first into the upper hull using regular glue to insure a solid bond. The external barrel and mantlet were then glued in place and I applied regular glue to the trunnion pins on the mount, holding the barrel in place to keep my desired pose elevation for a few minutes until the glue caught. I set the upper hull upright off to the side and let gravity do the rest of the work until the glue had fully set up.

Now came the tough part, joining the upper and lower hulls together. The instructions save this to the very next to the last step in the assembly order and that's a recipe for disaster in my opinion. There's an incredible amount of tension at the front hull due to the angled surface of the glacis and the way it joins together with the lower hull and the only way to get a solid join was to approach this in multiple phases. The first phase was to use multiple rubber bands and regular glue to insure the sides mated up properly with the hull sponsons added back in Step 2. At the same time, finger pressure, regular glue, and spot applications of liquid glue were needed at the hull front so there's no way to clamp or use rubber bands easily at that area. I held it with my fingers for a good 10-15 minutes until the glue had caught sufficiently to hold it on its own.

Once the sides had set up thoroughly, additional rubber bands were needed to bring the rear plate and deck into proper alignment.

Once the patient was removed from the traction, I returned to Step 10 and added the PE grills. These fit fairly snugly into their respective positions so only liquid glue was needed to get them to stay in place. This had the added advantage of not running the risk of CA clogging the grills and showing up later when painted.

I also added all of the rear superstructure details from Step 13 and opted to add the rear hull storage box since the vehicle I want to portray, #323 with the sHPzAbt 654 with the striped camo pattern, shows this box installed. I removed the stub antenna post from the antenna mount part M3 and drilled out the rubber base portion with a #72 finger drill so I can mount a brass 2m antenna later on. I also added the two cable clamp bases called for in Step 17 although the cables themselves won't get installed until after the hull is painted.

Rounding out the day's activity, I completed the assembly of the roof plate as directed in Step 14, opting to have all the hatches in the closed position. The instructions contain a small error in this step in that the armored periscope cover on the rotating mount for the rabbit ears scope is incorrectly identified as N9 when it should be N10 since N9 is too small and is already used elsewhere on the roof plate. All of the clear periscopes received the same MM metalizer treatment and were masked with blue tack before their installation.

The fit of the roof plate into the superstructure is a tight one and I used regular glue around the inside of the base combined with liquid glue around the outer edges where the molded on weld seam detail was present to get a good consistent join all around.

Next up will be the addition of the remaining hull exterior details that were skipped before it will be time to start the exterior paint work.

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Posted by Jester75 on Sunday, October 3, 2010 8:58 PM

Always love reading your build blogs Bill (boy that was a tongue twister)!

Eric

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, October 3, 2010 11:52 PM

Thanks Eric, glad to have you onboard! I got a lot done today in particular as my wife spent the day at her parents house so I had the house all to myself and holed up at the bench...day went by pretty fast as a result, one of those rare "in the zone" sessions if you know what I mean. Wink

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, October 4, 2010 5:54 AM

Ahhhh.....at the bench all day and no one home.....just need a coffee pot, a bathroom and some leftover pizza in the microwave halfway thru the day Stick out tongue.

You seemed to move through that one like poop thru a goose.....Fantastic progress. Thank god for rubber bands and small clamps.

I hear the air brush warming up.

Rounds Complete!!

 

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Posted by Nachtflieger on Monday, October 4, 2010 7:10 AM

Wow, great progress Bill! You're really motoring through this one. Smile

Nate

 

 

 

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Posted by deafpanzer on Monday, October 4, 2010 3:10 PM

Man, you can be so evil! Devil  Like I said I already have the kit B-U-T I didn't plan on building it that soon but it looks like it has been bumped up to the top. LOL  It is always a pleasure reading your posts. Yes

Andy

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, October 4, 2010 6:12 PM

I see you are still chugging along on this one and it looks like what we have come to expect.  Shaping up nicely.

Marc  

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, October 4, 2010 6:17 PM

Thanks Mike and Nate, appreciate the comments!

Andy, my apologies for the corrupting influence. This kit has some challenges, more than you would expect from a Smart Kit, but nothing a little thought and planning can't overcome. Look forward to seeing your build when you get to it. Beer

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Posted by ACESES5 on Wednesday, October 6, 2010 4:58 PM

Started my Dragon early version Sunday I'm as far as you got the pe screens on last night chassie is done and all painted. going to finish back end of upper hall tonight.              ACESES5Propeller

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Wednesday, October 6, 2010 5:04 PM

A little corruption never hurt... coming along nicly.  Will be watching for more on this one.

Rob

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Wednesday, October 6, 2010 5:10 PM

Yeah me too.StarStarStar

Tony LeeSmile

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Posted by hughes2682 on Wednesday, October 6, 2010 7:10 PM

This one is coming along nicely sir.  Personally, I love the look of those big ol' bolts around the mantlet.

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, October 6, 2010 7:56 PM

Thanks Aces, Panzerwaffe, and Tony!

Dave, definitely agree with you about the mean-look of the mantlet...can only imagine the size of those things in real-life! Wink

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, October 10, 2010 8:02 PM

As often happens, several odds-and-ends things interfered with my bench-time this weekend but I did manage to get all the external details attached in anticipation of painting next weekend.

Going back to the skipped steps, I started first with Step 11 which adds all the various gear and equipment to the right hull side. In terms of order, it's best to start by adding the small fender strip, H24, and then add the supports underneath it vs. the other way around. This is due to the fact that the part, at least for my kit, was slightly warped and by gluing it first to the hull and then adding the supports, I could work out the warp slowly one bit at a time instead of trying to do it all at once.

Some of the parts on the C sprue were also warped which meant that things like the spare track holders and the tool racks for the front of the hull had to be carefully glued into position and held with tweezers until the glue had caught enough to keep one side from popping up. I opted for the version of the jack block holder that had the block separate as that will allow for greater flexibility for painting and detailing that particular item. All of the pioneer tools will be painted and detailed separately after the hull is painted so these were also put off to the side for now.

For the left hull side, I first went back to Step 9 and assembled the gun cleaning rod case as directed. I used a sanding stick to carefully remove the join line once the glue had set up and set it off to the side until I had finished with Step 12 when it was installed to the hull as the last item.

Just as with the left side, the right side parts were also slightly warped and had to be dealt with in the same way. I also added the Bosch headlight and didn't bother with adding the clear styrene insert.

I also managed working in short sessions throughout the week and finishing up this weekend to get the MK track runs together. Since the guide-horns are separate pieces, it was a little more time consuming than usual but was worth the effort in the long run.

Next up will be the exterior paint work.

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Sunday, October 10, 2010 8:16 PM

Coming along wonderfully.  Can not tell any thing was warped at all, mighty fine work.  One day I am going to try those MK tracks, yours always look so good.  Really anticapating the paint on this, that is really the exciting part and you have such a good base to work with.  Will be watching.

Rob

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Posted by Nachtflieger on Sunday, October 10, 2010 9:16 PM

I agree with Rob.......I can't wait to see what you have planned for the paint scheme on this one!

Nate

 

 

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, October 10, 2010 11:12 PM

Thanks Rob, the JP certainly provides a lot of "canvas" to play with!

Nate, paint scheme for this one will be the diagonal stripe three-tone pattern. It's one I've wanted to do for a long time but just haven't ever gotten around to it.

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, October 11, 2010 5:37 AM

Moving along nicely....

Rounds Complete!!

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Posted by Nachtflieger on Monday, October 11, 2010 7:54 AM

GOOD choice of camo scheme, Bill!Big Smile

Nate

 

 

 

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Monday, October 11, 2010 11:03 AM

Panthers just have that look that's hard to resist.Yes

Getting this place winterized is stealing a bit of my bench time too Bill.

Tony LeeSmile

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, October 11, 2010 6:10 PM

Thanks Mike!

Tony, I hear you about the Panther's look...definitely has those sleek lines. It isn't yet time to start winterizing here...but I did have to mow the grass and take care of a few odds-and-ends since I will be travelling on business most of this week. Fun, fun! Big Smile

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Posted by ACESES5 on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 11:14 AM

Wbill76: Finished my jadgpanther 10/11/10 waiting for metel barrel to get here so I can swap them out so far yours is looking good, keep going. I used the pe grills also they sure make a difference in the models looks when done.                   ACESES5Propeller

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Posted by deafpanzer on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 11:37 AM

Always looking good especially the MK tracks! Yes  But gluing two separate guide horns to each link may drive me crazy this time.  Atleast they are much bigger than Panzer 1 tracks I assembled recently. Stick out tongue  I can't remember if my DML Jagpanther with Zimm kit comes with magic tracks or not... looking forward to your next update as usual. 

Andy

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 8:57 PM

Thanks Aces!

Andy, all of the DML pre-zimm kits have DS tracks so your kit doesn't likely have Magic tracks. Wink

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Posted by panzerguy on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:32 PM

   Looking good there BillStick out tongue! Gotta say these were one of the coolest looking AFV's the Germans produced.

Some say it was probably the best tank destroyer fielded during the war.

"Happiness is a belt fed weapon"

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, October 24, 2010 5:14 PM

It's been a little while since I was able to get back to the bench due to the usual prep-for-fall activities and being busy with work but I was able to get some time in this weekend. Work picked up where I had left off with the focus on the exterior paintwork.

First order of business was to lay down a primer coat of MM enamel Italian Dark Brown by airbrush. This allowed me to check all the seams and other work prior to the base coat application and also has the handy dual use of serving as a primer coat for the PE that was added.

Once that had dried, I applied a "base coat" of 50/50 MM enamel Panzer Dunkelgelb/Light Gray by airbrush. I say "base coat" since it wasn't a true overall coat due to the fact that the camo pattern was going to end up covering large portions of the hull surface area. Rather than apply the Dunkelgelb color to the entire vehicle, I only added it over the surfaces that weren't going to receive camo and/or that had deep recesses like the gun mantle. I deliberately applied the stripes in a wide pattern so that when I applied the other camo colors there wouldn't be any of the primer coat potentially peeking through at the borders.

I also painted the road wheels at this point. They were primered the same as the hull and the rubber portions were added by airbrush with MM enamel Gunmetal. The exposed outer hubs were painted with the same hull base coat color using a draftsman's circle template to mask the rubber portions.

The camo pattern was up next. I started by adding the Olivegrun portions using MM enamel Khaki and "filled in the lines" left by the base coat application. I used the kit-supplied finishing guide as, well, a guide and applied the stripes free-hand. The Rotbraun strips were added last using a 50-50 mix of MM enamel Leather/Military Brown. I cleaned up some over-spray using the original base coat color mix and then heavily thinned what was left in the paint-cup to almost a wash-like consistency. This thinned mixture was sprayed over the pattern from a distance of about 12 inches to tie the scheme together and provide a touch of fading to the darker colors.

This will get a chance to sit during the week and hopefully next weekend I can start work on adding the details and getting this one closer to the finish line as a result.

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Sunday, October 24, 2010 5:51 PM

Bill that camo pattern just jumps off the page at you.Cool

Your application is pefect guy.Yes

Tony LeeSmile

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, October 24, 2010 6:21 PM

Holy crap, how'd I miss this build, Bill? One of my favorite tanks, and you're almost finished with it already!? I think the lines of this baby remind me of a Plymouth Superbird with a big gun, lol!

I've finally managed to find an interior for my JP model--I'm looking forward to building it with maybe a cutaway to show off the inside?

Nice thing about this tank is that it doesn't have a lot of intricate assemblies. The camo scheme looks perfect.

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Posted by BeltFed on Sunday, October 24, 2010 6:46 PM

The camo scheme looks excellent Bill! It was well worth the wait.

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, October 24, 2010 7:33 PM

Thanks Tony! I spent about 2 hours at the spray booth yesterday and another 4 today so it took some time to get it all painted up. My "trigger" finger is still kind of numb as a result! Wink

Karl, I started this one while you were still out galvanting around the globe so that's probably why it slipped by you. The JP definitely has some sleek lines IMHO and your project to include an interior w/ cut-away sounds like the perfect approach, look forward to seeing it when you get around to it!

BF, thanks for the comments as well, glad you like how it turned out so far. Beer

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Posted by deafpanzer on Sunday, October 24, 2010 7:39 PM

Oh man, I don't think I should bother to build my DML Jagdpanther kit that my wife gave me for my 40th birthday... no way I can make the camo look as good as yours! LOL  Outstanding work!  Do we really have to wait for the whole week for your next update? Tongue Tied

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, October 24, 2010 8:01 PM

Andy,

Don't be intimidated, give it a whirl! The JP kit builds up nice and easy and there are plenty of camo schemes to choose from in the kit. Wink Sorry to make you wait, but since I do my "normal" building time on the weekends, the calendar is relentless in that respect. Big Smile

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, October 24, 2010 11:13 PM

Ahhh....the zebra look......nice work. Looking real good.

I know how the fall chores can slow you down.......plus work....

Keep on swimming!!

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Posted by Nachtflieger on Monday, October 25, 2010 2:40 AM

Love the camo Bill!

Nate

 

 

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, October 25, 2010 8:58 AM

Thanks Mike and Nate, appreciate the comments. Beer

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, October 25, 2010 2:01 PM

Those stripes make it look like a Christmas present.  It only needs 2 things.  A bow and to sitting under MY treeWhistling

I do like that camo.

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, October 25, 2010 4:17 PM

Thanks Marc! For some reason I now have this mental image of a tree decorated with nothing but panzers/tanks in my head that I can't shake...I bet with your Peanut Butter legion you could actually pull something like that off! Wink

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Posted by panzerguy on Monday, October 25, 2010 9:47 PM

wbill76

http://www.bpmodels.net/Model/JagdpantherLate/Step22.JPG

Now thats cool Cool!

 I wonder if my boss would have a fit if I painted my work truck like thatWhistling

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Posted by Jose_Luis_Lopez on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 3:36 AM

Absolutely delicious Jagdpanther!!!

Paint is neatly applied and the result is evident ... a winner!

Please, keep on that nice work, as I´ll soon make one jagdpanther and your´s a nice example to follow!

 

 

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 3:01 PM

Thanks Steve! I say you should just crank up the compressor and go for it...just be sure to keep the proper company logos masked off and you'll be fine. Big Smile

Jose Luis, thanks very much for the kind words. I would definitely be looking forward to your JP when the time comes as well. Beer

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Posted by Hinksy on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:23 AM

Hey Bill,

What a superb paint job - faultless! I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with this one!

Keep us posted buddy!

ATVB

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Posted by Tojo72 on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:50 AM

Real nice Bill,looking foward to the weathering process,great work.

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Posted by The Mad Klingon on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 7:25 AM

One of my favorite camo schemes! Well done.

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 10:52 AM

Ben, anthony, and MK, thanks for the comments! Getting the camo applied was a major hurdle so it's down the home-stretch now for this build. Beer

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, October 31, 2010 7:58 PM

I've been battling a severe cold all week and that had an impact on my bench time this weekend as well. I still managed to get some work done though and the focus was on the exterior details for this round of effort.

First order of business was the installation of the road wheels to the lower hull. Since they are interleaved, it's necessary to also install the sprockets although the idlers have enough room that they can be slid in and out if needed. The sprockets weren't glued down, just slid into position on their mount posts so it's still possible to turn them to facilitate installation of the tracks.

I used MM Metalizer non-buffing Steel to create the bare metal surfaces on the contact areas of the sprockets and idlers as well as the inner set of road wheels where the guide horns would rub on the rims. This will get toned down in later weathering steps and is just a foundation at this point. I also did a test fit with the assembled 84-link runs and discovered that the left hand side needed 2 more links (86) while the right hand side only needed 1 more (85) to get the desired sag.

That led me onward to the exterior tools and details. The spare tracks turned out to be the trickiest element since the racks that DML provides in the kit are nice but the holder clamps themselves are too thick to properly fit the kit-supplied Magic links by a good margin. Fortunately the MK set had sufficient spares left over to equip the racks but they too required some modification to fit properly although not nearly as much as the Magic tracks would have, so they ended up being the lesser evil in this case. The spare tracks were base coated with MM Metalizer non-buffing Gunmetal, heavily dry-brushed with MM enamel Steel, then given an overall wash of thinned MM enamel Rust. Once the wash was dry, they were dry-brushed again with MM enamel Burnt Umber to deepen the look prior to installation into the racks.

All of the pioneer tools were cleaned up and detailed by hand. The metal portions were base coated with MM Metalizer non-buffing Gunmetal and then lightly dry-brushed with MM enamel Steel. The wood handles were given a base coat of my 50/50 Light Gray/Dunkelgelb mix (my infamous "wood" mixture that I've used for years finally went bad and was no loner usable!) followed by a wash of thinned MM enamel Leather and dusted with Burnt Umber artist pastels. The wire-cutter's Bakelite handles were painted with MM enamel Italian Dark Brown and the rubber end-caps with MM enamel Gunmetal.

The rear hull also got some attention. The exhaust pipes were base coated with MM non-buffing Metalizer Gunmetal then given successive washes of Rust followed by a dry-brushed MM enamel Burnt Umber. The jack was painted with the 50/50 Light Gray/Dunkelgelb base coat and installed into its rack and the clear styrene insert for the rear convoy light was pained with Tamiya Clear Blue and glued into position. Last but not least a small amount of Insignia Red was used for the lower hull reflector

I'm leaving off the tow cables for now and will add those in after the weathering process is done. Due to the way the tracks fit with the lower hull, I'm also going to leave them off for the time being and proceed with the weathering process there first and then weather and install the tracks separately.

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Posted by Jester75 on Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:02 PM

I do love that scheme Bill and as usual you aced it brother!! Glad to hear your getting over your cold, I fought one about 2 weeks ago and it had me coughin up a storm!

Eric

 

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Posted by Nachtflieger on Monday, November 1, 2010 3:51 AM

Looking good Bill. Those tracks look great. Hope you feel better soon.

Nate

 

 

 

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, November 1, 2010 5:35 AM

Sick.....I know how that feels Sad......Ick!......

Nice work on the tool detail. You have the zebra moving toward the goal line....

OK....no rocks in your candy bag! Wink

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, November 1, 2010 6:40 AM

OK, so let me see what parts i like so far...

ALL OF THEM!

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, November 1, 2010 9:29 AM

Thanks Eric, Nate, Mike, and Marc! Being sick is never fun and the first cold of the season always hits me hard. My wife teaches elementary music so I always get the full brunt of the annual "germ warfare" as a result. Wink

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Monday, November 1, 2010 10:37 AM

Prime Stuff BillStarStarStar

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, November 1, 2010 1:12 PM

wbill76

Thanks Eric, Nate, Mike, and Marc! Being sick is never fun and the first cold of the season always hits me hard. My wife teaches elementary music so I always get the full brunt of the annual "germ warfare" as a result. Wink

It is a matter of dressing proper. At this time of year your should assume a MOPP level 4 with you wife exposed to young music students.....below would be a great outfit to prevent colds. A side benifit is the ability to spray paint without a hood or ventilation. Wink

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, November 1, 2010 2:12 PM

Thanks Tony!

Mike, I think you're on to something there! I learned my lesson a while back and get my flu shot every year as soon as it's available...unfortunately though colds still get me every now and then. I have the double whammy of working from home so that means that whatever she brings home gets to stay and circulate with me as the only potential victim in the pool! Smile

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Posted by Jester75 on Monday, November 1, 2010 2:37 PM

OMG Mike, I just snorted my Mtn Dew and my god it burns..............Big Smile

Having 6 kids aged 3 to 15 I too usually get exposed the the "germ warfare" you speak of Bill!!

Eric

 

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Posted by deafpanzer on Monday, November 8, 2010 6:46 PM

Bill, you are not going to believe this... I wasn't feeling great kinda down today  Sad and I couldn't figure it out why.  Bingo, realized that I didn't get my 'wbill fix' yesterday!  Hope you are feeling better by now...

Andy

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, November 8, 2010 7:44 PM

Hey Andy! Sorry to disrupt the routine but things have been very busy for me with work and related activities and that's cut heavily into my bench time, so didn't get to this one at all the past weekend. I'm feeling much better cold-wise, just need to get time free to be able to actually do something with the project. Appreciate the concern, hopefully next weekend can produce the desired 'fix' for you and me both! Wink

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Posted by hughes2682 on Thursday, November 11, 2010 7:35 PM

Bill,

The camo scheme is fantastic!Yes The silvering on the road wheels and idler are a very nice touch.  Not to mention the often overlooked convoy tail light.  Glad to hear you are feeling better.  I understand about the germs your wife can bring home from school.  I work in a surgical ICU and I used to worry about what I'd bring home to the kids.  Phooey!  The stuff they've brought home to me has darn near prompted me to paint a big red X on the front door.  Again, glad to hear that you are up and running again.

Cheers

Dave

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Posted by wbill76 on Thursday, November 11, 2010 7:58 PM

Thanks Dave! I'm doing much better now, the first cold of the season is always the toughest. Definitely looking forward to getting in some bench time this weekend. Wink

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Posted by Jose_Luis_Lopez on Friday, November 12, 2010 5:52 AM

Nice work!. Can´t wait to see this one weathered!

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, November 13, 2010 12:59 PM

Thanks Jose Luis, I can confidently say there will be an update posted tomorrow. Not sure just how far along I will be with it but there will be an update at a minimum. Wink

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, November 14, 2010 12:49 PM

Progress has been slow due to a variety of non-model related activities/events interfering with my bench time but I was able to get in more time this weekend and keep this one moving forward. Life has a tendency to do that from time to time!

Picking up from the last installment, I worked on the lower hull weathering first. I added some chipping/scuffing/wear to the lower hull, road wheels, idlers, and sprockets by taking a round 0 sable brush and stippled some MM enamel Burnt Umber onto the desired surfaces. The key with this technique is to treat the brush as if you were going to dry-brush with it and instead of using flat strokes, use a stippling/stabbing motion and let the randomness of the bristles create the desired pattern. This was followed by an overall MM enamel Raw Umber wash to blend it in with the base color and also to tone down the bare metal surfaces I'd created earlier. Since the base coat had cured thoroughly over the last couple of weeks, there was no need to seal the surfaces prior to applying the wash although I did have to exercise care in terms of not letting it build up too heavily in the process. All of this creates a foundation for additional weathering still to come in the form of pigments down the road.

With that out of the way, it was time to seal in the rest of the base coat with an overall coat of acrylic Future floor polish. Even though the enamel work there has thoroughly cured just like the lower hull, the application of filters/washes still to come will be more aggressive in terms of the use of thinner and scrubbing so the paint still needs protection against that. While many often describe Future as a gloss coat, it's actually not a true gloss as it creates it's own tooth/texture when applied in light mist coats vs. heavy wet coats.

The kit decal markings were applied to create # 323 with the sHPzJgAbt 654 as per the instruction marking sheet. The decals were treated with Walther's Solvaset solution to insure they snugged down tight. Once the decals were thoroughly dry, a 2nd coat of Future was applied to seal and protect them as well from the follow-on weathering process.

Time didn't permit me to get to the weathering stages just yet but I did work on one of the other remaining details, the tow cables and the small track changing cable. The kit supplies braided steel wire of different diameters for both of these items but it's got a lot of tension in it and is very "springy" as a result. Braided copper would be a better option IMHO but DML insists on using steel for some reason. The kit instructions in Step 17 show how the large tow cables should be positioned but doesn't provide any guidance as to the needed length, so I had to test fit multiple times to figure it out. You get a good bit more wire than you need to create both cables which is good as it's tough to cut the stuff cleanly and still be able to fit it into the styrene cable ends. I used CA gel to insure they wouldn't separate and, due to the tension, it's again critical that you not make the mistake of attaching both ends the same way...you need to orient the ends so that they will lay properly with one vertical for the hull side end and one horizontal for the rear deck end.

The smaller diameter wire provided for the track changing cable is totally inadequate. It has a lot more spring to it and doesn't take kindly to being wound tightly like you need for this one to be mounted properly on the hull side holder/rack. I decided to replace it entirely with 0.010" waxed ship rigging thread which is a perfect match for the diameter of the holes on the kit-provided cable ends for this item.

While I'm not permanently installing the tow cables or track-change cable until after the weathering is done, it was necessary to tweak them to insure they could install properly when the time comes. I used small amounts of blue-tack putty to hold the ends in place on the rear engine deck and used a combination of tweezers and needle nose pliers to gently shape/curve the cables into the desired position and orientation. Here again the choice of steel vs. a more malleable/adjustable material like copper made things a challenge but eventually I got it done.

The cables will get removed and painted separately now that they are in the proper shape and installation will come after the weathering to allow for easier access to the hull side and engine deck areas for that process.

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Posted by Hinksy on Sunday, November 14, 2010 1:42 PM

Hey Bill,

She is one fine looking tank killer!

I love this cammo scheme. I tried it on my Tamiya JP and it worked quite well - I have a feeling it won't have turned out as good as this one will though!

Lovely job, breathtaking Yes

ATVB

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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, November 14, 2010 2:59 PM

Good to see you better Bill. Looking forward to more.

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, November 14, 2010 3:48 PM

Bill - Just when you become accustom to life throwing fastballs.....here comes a curve ball. I am sure you have a great slugging percentage even with the curve balls and be glad the knuckle ball has not come!!

The model is up to your usual museum quality!!! thake a deep breath,,,,the holidays are coming

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, November 14, 2010 7:47 PM

Thanks Ben! Yes

Eric, definitely felt good to get this one back on the rails again. Thanks for your comments!

Mike, you're right about the pitcher changing things up every now and then...good thing the coaches aren't telling me to bunt! Big Smile Holidays are coming and I've already got plans for some significant bench-time to be scheduled over the next couple of month, never fear! Wink

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Posted by deafpanzer on Sunday, November 14, 2010 8:35 PM

Thanks Bill for the update!  It means my week will be GREAT! Big Smile  I have to tell you that the camo scheme you did still amazes me every time I come here... looking forward to the next update. Yes

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Sunday, November 14, 2010 9:21 PM

Bill - This one is REALLY NICE.  Paint is fabulous.  The road wheels keeps grabing my eyes, you did those wonderfully.  One thing that I do find a little stange or different, having 2 (Balkenkreuz) crosses at the rear and one on the glacis plate.  Really like this one!  Will be waiting for more.

Rob

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, November 15, 2010 8:23 AM

Nice to see you back at the bench.  Looks terrific.   Really like the look of the wheels.

Marc  

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, November 15, 2010 4:11 PM

Andy, glad to do my part to insure that all is right with the world! Big Smile

Rob, thanks for the kind words and glad you like the work done so far. I agree with you about the markings, they are a little unconventional for this particular unit/vehicle. That, along with the paint scheme, are what grabbed my attention for this one.

Marc, definitely felt good to be back at the bench. Thanks as always for dropping by. Beer

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Posted by disastermaster on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 9:38 AM

http://th181.photobucket.com/albums/x296/nightingalesings/Smileys/th_questionedr.gif  Hey Bill,

 Any updates here?

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Posted by deafpanzer on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:22 AM

Disaster Master, last time Bill said he was going to ship me his Jagdpanther via UPS so I can finish it up for him.  It is really almost completed anyway... can't wait to see it. Stick out tongue

Andy

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:31 AM

DM, wasn't able to get to it this past weekend and make any progress but I have the rest of the week off starting tomorrow for Thanksgiving so should be able to get this one across the finish line soon! Wink It's been tough for me to hold to a regular schedule with this build, been very hit or miss which is new to me and been very disruptive as a result...but hopefully things have settled down enough now that I can return to a "normal" schedule.

Andy, the way things are going you probably could have had it finished up by now if I had shipped it to you! Propeller Wink

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Posted by disastermaster on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 1:54 AM

Oh NO!

Now Andy is gonna be heartbroken http://th169.photobucket.com/albums/u210/El_fosforo/Icons/th_heart.gif

no http://th10.photobucket.com/albums/a123/Xx_Serpentina_xX/Icons/th_UPS-Fragile.gifpackage from Bill.

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Posted by bbrowniii on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 10:40 AM

Bill

As usual, I've been lurking this one.  Just figured it was about time for me to chime in with the typical platitudes and praise.  This one is looking VERY nice.  Great job.

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, November 24, 2010 1:19 PM

Thanks Boyd! I've got the rest of this week off and fully intend to spend some quality time with this one in order to make up for the neglect over the last couple of weeks. Big Smile

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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, November 26, 2010 4:03 PM

Due to the Thanksgiving Day holiday, was able to get in a little more progress on this build. I've been fighting some sinus issues and that's made it tough to work on things that require a breather mask such as the heavily-thinner-involved weathering/filter steps but hopefully should be able to get to that tomorrow as it's the largest remaining task now to march this one on to completion.

As a result, this update is mostly about the details. I decided to go ahead and fit the tow cables so that they would blend in with the rest of the weathering, so they were painted up by hand and installed. I used MM non-buffing Metalizer for the cables over the steel wire and then lightly dry-brushed enamel Steel on the ends to show some use/wear. The collars were painted with the standard dunkelgelb mix I used for the base coat earlier on. The cables were installed into position with a small bit of CA gel used to secure the wires into their u-shaped retainers and the DML-provided cotter pins at the rear deck were glued in place with ordinary liquid glue.

I also painted and detailed the small track-changing cable and installed it into position on the right hull side rack. There's no way this could have been done with the kit-supplied wire without breaking things and the ship-rigging twine made things much easier. I still needed to use a pair of tweezers to thread it into position and used a small amount of liquid glue on the cable ends to insure they stayed put.

I also got around to painting the tracks. I tried something new this time around and airbrushed the MK track runs with MM enamel Burnt Umber. I followed this up by dry-brushing enamel Steel on the wear/contact points and then applied a thinned wash of enamel Raw Umber to mute/blend in the Steel a bit. Normally I would now install the tracks but given the prominence the tracks have on the JP suspension, I'm actually going to apply their pigment weathering and such first (also allowing greater access to the road wheels for their same process) and then install them.

Should have another update at the "usual" Sunday delivery point as well...maybe even finally get this one across the finish line depending!

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Friday, November 26, 2010 4:28 PM

Tracks look nice there buddy.Yes

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Posted by deafpanzer on Friday, November 26, 2010 7:15 PM

Ditto  I have to give it a shot... normally I use MM gunmetal as base paint.  Hope you feel better soon! 

Andy

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Posted by redleg12 on Friday, November 26, 2010 7:45 PM

Looking good my friend....nice to have you back at the bench

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Posted by wbill76 on Friday, November 26, 2010 8:51 PM

Thanks Tony! Also went back over the tow cables and corrected some of the bowing seen in the pics with some carefully placed CA gel so they have a more natural look to how they lay against the casemate hull and the rear engine deck.

BeerAndy, using MM non-buffing Metalizer Gunmetal as my base paint is my normal method but I decided to give this route a shot as it might, if it works out the way I like, shorten the paint time since it would eliminate the need to primer with Flat Black then paint over again with the metalizer. So far the look is pretty consistent with my previous method but with one less step...will see how it looks with the pigment treatment before I will say for sure on whether this new method will replace the old.

Mike, always good to be back at the bench! Hope you didn't OD on Turkey yesterday. Big Smile

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Posted by hughes2682 on Friday, November 26, 2010 9:05 PM

It's good to see the line up and running again.  I love it when I get to the track portion of assembly..... it's kind of like a milestone in the build.

Cheers

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Posted by redleg12 on Friday, November 26, 2010 9:37 PM

wbill76

Hope you didn't OD on Turkey yesterday. Big Smile

Naaaaa......

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, November 27, 2010 10:42 AM

Thanks Dave, have to agree with you about milestones. I have to be honest and say that this build has been the toughest for me to stay motivated on because of all the interruptions but I'm determined to get it across the finish line regardless.

BeerMike, nice "camo" Turkey and definitely not OD! Stick out tongue

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Posted by wing_nut on Saturday, November 27, 2010 11:01 AM

Just 2 words for that.  Soup Herb!

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Posted by satch_ip on Saturday, November 27, 2010 3:25 PM

Bill, how did those Model Kasten tracks go together?  Were they easier to build than the standard indie link?  I hate that part of armor.  I've been scouring Ebay and hobby shops for the DS tracks.

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Posted by Jose_Luis_Lopez on Saturday, November 27, 2010 5:10 PM

An absolute winner ... really nice step by step post

 

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:48 PM

Thanks Marc and Jose Luis, appreciate the comments! Beer

More progress to report today. The tow cables were secured more firmly in place using small amounts of CA gel on the engine decks as well as the hull sides to insure a more "natural" look.

Weathering work began in earnest with the first step being an overall application of an MM enamel Raw Umber wash to the entire vehicle. This was followed up by a dot filter treatment using MM enamel Flat White, Panzer Dunkelgelb, and Raw Sienna. The dots were applied to small sections at a time then blended together until virtually gone using a square tip blender brush lightly moistened with clean thinner. It's a tedious process that took several hours all while wearing a breather mask to avoid heavy fume exposure to the thinner.

This will sit overnight so I can look at it with a fresh pair of eyes tomorrow and see if anything more needs to be done. In addition, a pin wash of Burnt Umber will get applied as well to bring out the details before it all gets sealed up and ready for the final leg of pigment treatment for the lower hull and tracks/running gear.

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:53 PM

satch_ip

Bill, how did those Model Kasten tracks go together?  Were they easier to build than the standard indie link?  I hate that part of armor.  I've been scouring Ebay and hobby shops for the DS tracks.

Satch,

The MK tracks go together well but they do require some time/effort committment. The guide horns are separate so you have to glue two of them per link and of course clean-up each link and do the assembly. If yo'ure looking for something that's "easier" than indy links, this is probably not the route you should take. I prefer MK's for the other main advantage they provide in the form of workable tracks that are easier to position for sag and can be worked off the vehicle for painting and weathering prior to final installation. They always take more time to assemble though than you would spend on working with static indies for sure though. HTH! Beer

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, November 28, 2010 4:24 PM

The Thanksgiving holiday bench session came to an end today and while I had hoped to get to the pigment stage, it was not to be so this one will linger on just a bit longer unfortunately.

I did however make some more progress. I applied a thinned MM enamel Burnt Umber pin wash to bring out all the details, particularly the weld seams, that's present all over on the JP. I used a pointed 3/0 brush to apply the wash and then used clean thinner to come back over various areas where there was excess and removed or adjusted it as needed.

The JP is deceiving, there's a lot of detail work involved in this step with all the different elements on the roof and engine deck, so it took longer than I had originally anticipated. Since I was working with thinner, I wore a breather mask during this step to reduce the fume exposure.

I'll let this sit overnight and then take another look at it tomorrow to see if any further adjustments are needed before applying the sealing dull-coat. Then it will just be the pigment step remaining!

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Sunday, November 28, 2010 5:07 PM

The "Plunk Principal" is showing through Bill.Cowboy

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Posted by redleg12 on Monday, November 29, 2010 12:04 PM

Looking good!!!......Hang in there

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, November 29, 2010 4:50 PM

Thanks Tony, although I admit I can only guess at which principle you're applying! Wink

Mike, always glad to see you stop in...this one's slowly getting closer and closer to the finish line, almost there!

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Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, November 29, 2010 5:11 PM

Looking real good Bill

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Posted by deafpanzer on Monday, November 29, 2010 5:36 PM

Yes Looking awesome! Yes You are almost there... it is only 93.7 percent completed.  Don't ask me how I came up with this number...

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, November 29, 2010 6:27 PM

Thanks anthony!

Andy, it's a proven fact that over 63.4% of statistics are just made up. Wink Appreciate the comments as always! Beer

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Posted by panzerguy on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 2:49 PM

     I thought this one would be done by now there BillWink  I'm getting cough up around here and I thought that I was going to have to look a few pages back to find this one.

   The camo looks great along with everything else of course. Cant wait to see it with the tracks on

   Just gotta love that about the Germans they do the most intricate camo schemes and then put bright red numbers on the sideConfused

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Posted by JohanT on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 4:07 PM

I like the way you have reproduced the "simple" pattern over such a complex stucture without loosing the visual context.
It looks right and the that is further supported with all the care that goes into the detail.

Thank You again for sharing!

Very Best Regards
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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 5:52 PM

Steve!, nice to see you around these parts again. I hear you about thinking this one would be done by now, it's been somewhat of a start-and-stop build for sure but almost there! You're right about the hull numbers paradox, but then at this point in the war they were more concerned with hiding from the air than anything else so it makes sense from that vantage point I suppose.

Johan, thanks very much for the compliments and glad you like the scheme. It was a challenge to apply it freehand but I worked slowly and "wrapped" the pattern around the vehicle as best as possible to keep it consistent.

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Posted by Bodge on Wednesday, December 1, 2010 1:51 PM

VERRRRRRRRY NICE Bill, I do like this camo scheme a lot. You have pulled it off nicely mateStick out tongue

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, December 1, 2010 10:38 PM

Thanks Andy, much appreciated! Beer

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, December 12, 2010 7:25 PM

Finally managed to get this one across the finish line this weekend! Never in my wildest dreams would I have imagined that this build would take 2.5 months to complete, but that's life for you I guess.

I sealed up the previous weathering with an application of Testors Model Master Lusterless Flat in the spray can and let that dry overnight. That left only the pigment weathering for the tracks and lower hull. I mixed up a combination of Mig Pigments Dark Mud, Light Dust, Europe Dust, and Rubble Dust as a dry powder until I had the tint/color I wanted. This was converted to a wet mix using ordinary tap water with a drop of dish-washing soap added to break the surface tension. The wet mix was applied using a round sable brush to the lower hull, running gear, and the tracks. After it had air dried, I removed the excess using a stiff bristled brush (while wearing a dust mask to avoid inhaling the fine particles!) and then made further adjustments using several q-tips.

This was the first time I had tried doing this with the tracks off the vehicle and it made a difference so will likely be something I continue when using workable tracks at any rate.

The tracks were then installed on both sides and the idler properly tensioned to produce the right amount of sag.

The final step was the installation of a JB brass 2m antenna using some CA gel and painting it up with MM Non-buffing Metalizer Gunmetal. Then it was off to the photo-booth for the walk-arounds to finally, finally! get this one across the finish line.

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Posted by IBuild148 on Sunday, December 12, 2010 7:45 PM

Congratulations Bill! Again another stellar build Yes even though it took longer than your expectation's, but you crossed the finish line.

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Posted by deafpanzer on Sunday, December 12, 2010 7:45 PM

Glad you got this across the finish line!  Outstanding work as usual. Yes  I like the details especially the tools on the beast.  I think I am going to build my Jagdpanther kit (DML w/ zimm) in 2011... tempting! 

It took you only 2.5 month?  That's still better than my record.  I have completed only 3 kits and I am trying to finish fourth (Marder II)... Big Smile

Enjoy your break and drink two Beer this time.

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, December 12, 2010 8:35 PM

Merry Christmas to you and your family too IB48!

Andy, 2.5 months is an eternity for me, at least going by prior standards of averaging 4-6 weeks on a single build. This one was OOB (except for the tracks) and was supposed to be a quick/easy project...best laid plans I suppose! I may have to adjust to a new reality of builds taking this amount of time to complete for the foreseeable future that is as my build pace has definitely slowed way down this year. Thanks for the comments as always! Beer Beer

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Posted by redleg12 on Sunday, December 12, 2010 10:03 PM

Bill, glad you finished. Looks great. 2.5 months......so what, enjoy the journey....its not how fast or how many you build....its what do you enjoy. Take a break....enjoy modeling for modeling...and have a Drinks on me

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Posted by Slightly Altered on Sunday, December 12, 2010 10:20 PM

Rockin' build there Bill!!!    That 'ol Jagdpanther turned out great. Nice subtle weathering, and the camo is dead on.

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Posted by TD4438 on Monday, December 13, 2010 6:10 AM

Very nice.I'm jealous as usual.

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, December 13, 2010 6:29 AM

So does this mean your slump officially starts now? Wink

I sure hope not.  That's a real beauty.  I love that camo and plan on using it on an upcoming Peanut Butter Panzer... even though it might not be appropriate.  It just looks too damn cool.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, December 13, 2010 7:07 AM

Another masterpiece........perhaps we will see it in a magazine article somewhere down the line ??

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Posted by The Mad Klingon on Monday, December 13, 2010 8:06 AM

Love it! A great looking model of a awesome tank with a beautiful paint job! Well done.

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Posted by cb1 on Monday, December 13, 2010 9:15 AM

Epic Win! Toast

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, December 13, 2010 10:04 AM

Mike, thanks as always and your prescription is just the ticket!

BeerDale, appreciate the comments and glad you like how it turned out. This camo scheme is one of the "well known" schemes out there and I'd been wanting to tackle it ever since I got the kit and saw that it included the markings for this particular vehicle.

TD, no need to be jealous and appreciate the kind words all the same. Wink

Marc, it's kind of like when recessions officially "start" and "end". The slump has been ongoing for the last couple of months but only just manifested itself in a meaningful way. I'm not saying that it's now officially "over" either...I do need a break from blogging and the "grind" and think I've settled on just the thing to have on hand as a simple project for my upcoming holiday time off. Wink Would love to see this scheme show up on one of your PB masterpieces for sure! Yes

Anthony, thanks for the compliments, as for publication there aren't any plans for that anytime soon but you never know. Part of the "break" is also a break from the publication grind...it's a major "time stealer" in the background that has been contributing to my feeling of the "slump" that I need to break out of. Wink

Mad Klingon, cb1, appreciate the comments as well! Beer  

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Posted by Pvt Mutt on Monday, December 13, 2010 11:51 AM

Love It Love It Love ItYes

The way you finish out the under carriage is always a treat and looks so natural.StarStarStarStarStar

Thanks for the show Bill

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, December 13, 2010 1:34 PM

Thanks Tony! High praise indeed and glad you like it! Beer

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Posted by biffa on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:32 AM

Great to see you found some mojo and got this one finished Bill this particular camo scheme is one of my favourites and one i hope to pull off one day you have managed it perfectly it looks awesome i love it . 

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:06 PM

Thanks Ron, nice to see you back online again and posting as well! Beer

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Posted by Nachtflieger on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 3:30 PM

Beautiful job Bill! I really like the dried mud / dusty look of the tracks and running gear, great job! Camo is VERY cool too.Yes

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Posted by JohanT on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 4:06 PM

Congratulations to another cool build Bill,
Your technique has developed in every way over the last years, and in your continues improvement I think you have become an inspiration to many of us.
I think you should take pride in that.
The camo scheme is a 100% knock on, I have seen this done with very good results with sharp demarcation but your soft demarcation is so much more convincing.
You did this soft in 1:35, just imagine what it would do take to do it sharp in 1:1, planks that bend around the curves?

Thank you for sharing Bill

Very Best Regards
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Posted by panzerguy on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 4:13 PM

   Bill I didn't think you'd be able to let this one sit to longWink.

  As always a fine job all around on this big guyYes. Now get started on that next project no time to waste now that your back in the groove

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Posted by wbill76 on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 7:13 PM

Nate and Steve, appreciate the comments!

BeerJohan, I debated back and forth about whether or not to do the camo as hard or soft-edged and what finally tipped the balance for me was the timeframe in which this one was built since it pre-dated factory-applied hard-edge schemes. Combine that with the complex curves/surfaces you mention and it made more sense to me that way (although I was prepared to use the blue-tack masking to get a hard-edge had my decision gone the other way! Big Smile). Thanks as well for your kind words and glad you like how it turned out. Beer

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Posted by BeltFed on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 7:23 PM

Not really being a math guy, i did devise a very simple equation for modeling:

the longer amount of time spent on a model + the higher number of techniques used= better model

 

your jagd proves my point :)

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Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Tuesday, December 14, 2010 10:38 PM

Well worth the wait for this one, came out fantastic StarStar  Camo is very nice but really like that dirty running gear.  Great work.

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Posted by wbill76 on Wednesday, December 15, 2010 10:25 AM

Belt Fed, I like that "new math" formula, it works! Thanks for the comments as always.

BeerRob, thanks and glad you like the way the running gear turned out, I did have to take some care with the MK tracks since the pigment treatment and stiff bristled brush approach can be a little rough but overall it worked out well. Definitely a technique I will continue to work on and fine-tune going forward. Beer

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Posted by terry35 on Saturday, December 18, 2010 5:48 PM

Well Bill I've beenn following this and alot of others in work but dont really get a chance to reply. As always great work she is a beauty.

If I'm not online before the X-Mas well then Merry Christmas to your and your Family.

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Saturday, December 18, 2010 7:25 PM

Thanks Terry and a Merry Christmas to you and yours as well! Beer

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Posted by tigerman on Saturday, December 18, 2010 8:34 PM

I thought I commented already. My bad. 

Glad you got her done Bill. It must feel like a relief. Now you can turn your attention to a new project. I do love the camo and your superb understated weathering. Used, but not abused. LOL

Can you give us a peek into your next project? Merry Christmas. 

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, December 19, 2010 12:55 PM

Thanks Eric! Yes, it is a relief to have this one done and on the shelf. Definitely set a personal record for longest single build duration!

My 2 weeks off for the holidas officially started yesterday and I do have a new project in the works to occupy my time during the break. I'll offer you a clue in that it could be considered the JP's "older cousin" and leave it at that. Wink

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Posted by spacepacker on Sunday, December 19, 2010 1:10 PM

Once again another Master Class. I despair that I will ever get any where near as good....cheers....Kenny

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Posted by Jose_Luis_Lopez on Sunday, December 19, 2010 3:18 PM

I particulary LOVE the fadded look of the kit ... subtle weathering...

A really nice painting work. Congratulations!

 

 

 

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Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, December 19, 2010 7:30 PM

Kenny, thanks for the comments. Never fear, every modeler has their own pace for development on style and technique.

BeerJose Luis, thanks as well for the kind words, glad you like how it turned out.

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