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Sdk.fz 234/4 WIP . No more post here . Link to completed build on p.8

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:11 PM

Ok , i resurfaced the mufflers . I'll see how this turns out .

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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 9:08 PM

Shellback

Thanks Doog . Too bad the photo's are packed . That would be good reference . Hopefully i'm not straying to far afield with my idea of what this particular vehicle could have looked like .

Oh, I think it looks great And the muffler texture looks super! Honestly!

If I can find those pics, I'll try to post them after I unpack if you still have this going..Smile

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:58 PM

Thanks Doog . Too bad the photo's are packed . That would be good reference . Hopefully i'm not straying to far afield with my idea of what this particular vehicle could have looked like .

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:14 PM

Ok Bill n Mike ...............i'll get back with you both in a few , chow time now and i cant be late ....................the WIFE will knock my knickers off if i'm late !!!!!!Stick out tongue

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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 8:13 PM

Real nice work on the interior, and a nice color scheme too.

I can tell you that Aberdeen had one of these vehicles in its warehouses, and I got a tour of them about 20 years ago, and got photos of the interior of this beast. The interior WAS partly primer red. Not ALL, but parts were. I'd post some pics of it, but I'm in the middle of moving and all my stuff is packed!

 

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 7:55 PM

If you can get ahold of RustAll you'll never regret it. If it needs to be rusty RustAll is the best bet.

Shellback

Got this done tonight and i'm satisfied with the results . I never tried the method i used on this before but it all worked out well .................imo.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w164/Shellback-01/Panzerjaeger%20%20234-4/S6300067-Copy-1.jpg

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by treadwell on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 7:29 PM

Aw Shell, on the muffler, you'll be a better man for it and it'll make the back end  really stand out and have a super cool point of interest. ! ... my theory is to try and treat each piece as an individual model.. you have put so much great work in already, really redoing a muffler will be a cake walk for ya...yer probably done already!  lol .... I don't under stand about the harbor freight add : (

yer critical pal ,

bill

P.s.  to many donuts make ya go  nuts  ..  I can attest to that ... yum damn skippity!

   

 

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 6:54 PM

Ok , i found these ............................Eats

Ok, better now .Whistling

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 6:53 PM

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 6:49 PM

.....................and further more i'm burning my current Harbor Freight add !!!!!Super Angry

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 6:44 PM

william carls

muffler looks very realistic, could maybe use a bit more texture,but I like it . 

Here is a pic of a MG 42 with wooden butt ..

 

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b392/mr_treadwell/mg43woodenbutt.jpg  

bill

 

Bill , on the muffler ,sadly i must admitt that i agreeWhistling . I'll RIP it off and rework it ..................................Super Angry 

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Posted by treadwell on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 4:04 PM

muffler looks very realistic, could maybe use a bit more texture,but I like it . 

Here is a pic of a MG 42 with wooden butt ..

 

 

bill

 

   

 

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Posted by Shellback on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 11:44 PM

Got this done tonight and i'm satisfied with the results . I never tried the method i used on this before but it all worked out well .................imo.

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Posted by Shellback on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:09 PM

Here's a couple of pictures of MG 42's that i used as reference . Note the butt stock color . It could be painted bakelite or painted wood . And there are pictures of the butt in wood color also but i chose these .

FYI , Dr. Baekeland announced his invention ,Bakelite , in 1909 .

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Posted by Shellback on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:02 PM

Wow ! You took time to post here on your wedding anniversary ? You are a truely dedicated modeler and a friend of mine Bill !

Thanks  and happy anniversary !!!!!!!!

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Posted by treadwell on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 8:32 PM

Hi my good friend Carl : ) 

I also wanted to add how much I am ENJOYING your build. Great camo on the paint job and a tutorial at every turn. your photography is very well done and that is important to me.. I hate blurry pics... makes me think I've over done the meds again... ( that was humor.. I am actually very careful.. just in case the kiddies are tuned in)

On the MG, I agree its hard to tell, butt (lol) to me, I think for sure some were wood.. it is really a part that could be easily built either way depending on who was supplying the part and the availability of bakelite which in a tough time for petroleum plastic manufacturing could have been suffering.

on to my favorite part : the wheels....I know lots of guys give the tip to use a cut out circle or draftsman circle tool or you could use just some piece plastic cone cut to the perfect size as you did.... all of that ain't my point....my point is , regardless of the short time taken, the wheels came out PERFECT. and sometimes, perfect is enough... ( again ... a tiny bit of humor 'cause secretly I believe it is all modelers dream or goal).

I Love the looks of those freekin wheels , and I am anxious to see the completed vehicle.....

thats all I got for tonight Shell, It's my 37th wedding anniversary and I am going to spend some time with someone I love more than your wheels!

great build dude

yer pal , bill

 

   

 

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Posted by Shellback on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:54 PM

bbrowniii

Hey, this thread is great. Not only do we get a great WIP, but we get some humor, some history, and a few personal anecdotes to wash it all down. Ahhhhhh, could it get any better?

Hey Carl, I really like the effect you got on your tools. What are you painting/highlighting them with?

Good to read that you are enjoying the thread ! Icould be better if we had pizza and beer served while at the keyboard ..............i'm not even going to ask the wife . so i'll stick with my peanuts and a glass of water ......................

The tools , i started by painting them panzer gray over all , followed by Mode Master enamel wood on the handles . Over the wood i brushed a diluted/thin coat of Tamiya red brown xf64 to break up the overall wood color . For the metalic look i used a lead pencil and drew it on over the panzer gray . If it looks to shiney spray over it with some flat . Lastly i painted the straps with Tamiya dark yellow xf-60 . I also brushed on a mixture of thinned acrylic black and burnt umber with a sharp pointed paint brush to emphasize the recessed areas.Seems like a lot of steps but its what works for me .

Hope this helps !Beer

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Posted by Shellback on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:33 PM

Eric , i went to web site that carry's parts for MG 42 and judging from the pictures it looked like the butt stock could any of the three ......but thats just from looking at pictures . i learned that the handles were bakelite a long time ago after painting them wood .........................Thanks .Beer

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Posted by bbrowniii on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 12:21 PM

Hey, this thread is great. Not only do we get a great WIP, but we get some humor, some history, and a few personal anecdotes to wash it all down. Ahhhhhh, could it get any better?

Hey Carl, I really like the effect you got on your tools. What are you painting/highlighting them with?

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing' - Edmund Burke (1770 ??)

 

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Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 12:14 PM

You're correct about the wire-cutters being bake-lite. Many modelers paint them wood, which is incorrect. Very good question about the MG-42 stock, but I believe you're correct again. I can't recall seeing it as a wood color.

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Shellback on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 12:02 PM

Good to read you like it mike !Beer

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Posted by MAJ Mike on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 11:52 AM

The vehicle equipment looks great.

 

 

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"Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc!"

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Posted by Shellback on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 11:48 AM

Mike , thanks for stopping in and leaving a couple of rounds!  Beer

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Posted by redleg12 on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 5:32 AM

Very nice work on the tools. Love the worn look on the shovel

Rounds Complete!!

"The Moral High Ground....A Great Place to Emplace Artillery."

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Posted by Shellback on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 12:07 AM

Ok , i finished these tonight . From my research it looks like the butt stock of the MG 42 is either wood , painted wood or bakelite . I chose bakelite .

I believe the item in the center of the three is a bolt / wire cutter and the lower handles is bakelite .

 

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Posted by Shellback on Monday, June 20, 2011 11:57 PM

tigerman

 Shellback:

The following is meant as humor and is NOTa factual event .

One of Hitlers wild night mares was to mount the turret from a Tiger 1 with its 88 mm cannon on the chasis of a 234 .Idea He felt the extra armor of the turret would make a good match with the speed of a wheeled chasis Whistling.This vehicle never made it to a paper drawing but Hitler did say something about his bad dream to Goering , who  choked on his mouthful of viennese cutlet .Ick!

Here's the concept .

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w164/Shellback-01/S6300068.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w164/Shellback-01/S6300069.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w164/Shellback-01/S6300070.jpg

das wienerschnitzel (Viennese cutlet )Eats

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w164/Shellback-01/wienerschn200.jpg

Goerings second portion

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w164/Shellback-01/wienerschn200.jpg

 

 

Carl, I just spewed my beer. Thanks. I needed that. LOL Yes

glad it gave you laugh Eric !!!!!

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Posted by tigerman on Monday, June 20, 2011 10:35 PM

Shellback

The following is meant as humor and is NOTa factual event .

One of Hitlers wild night mares was to mount the turret from a Tiger 1 with its 88 mm cannon on the chasis of a 234 .Idea He felt the extra armor of the turret would make a good match with the speed of a wheeled chasis Whistling.This vehicle never made it to a paper drawing but Hitler did say something about his bad dream to Goering , who  choked on his mouthful of viennese cutlet .Ick!

Here's the concept .

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w164/Shellback-01/S6300068.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w164/Shellback-01/S6300069.jpg

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w164/Shellback-01/S6300070.jpg

das wienerschnitzel (Viennese cutlet )Eats

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w164/Shellback-01/wienerschn200.jpg

Goerings second portion

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w164/Shellback-01/wienerschn200.jpg

 

Carl, I just spewed my beer. Thanks. I needed that. LOL Yes

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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Posted by Shellback on Monday, June 20, 2011 10:15 PM

Hey Bill thanks !!!

Next time i go off with my imagination on something German WW II  i'll keep your historical wisdom in mind !

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, June 20, 2011 4:58 PM

Ft. Bliss has undergone a lot of changes lately for sure but I believe the restaurant is still in business here in El Paso. They still hold the annual Oktoberfest activities every year as well.

Your build is coming along nicely Carl, neat trick on the tires. Yes

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Posted by Shellback on Sunday, June 19, 2011 1:08 PM

MAJ Mike

Sorry.  Apologize for going so off topic.  It was just one of those incidents that was both unusal and very pleasent.  Checking in at the VOQ and being in-processed by a Luftwaffe Duty NCO was also a little bit weird.

No more lectures, promise.

Maj . i edited my response in this post. It was too wordy perhaps .

 By all means i am interested in anything you want to share about your experiences here . There was no problem about going off topic Sir ! Sorry i got everything confused .

My own appologees for being unclear in my statements .

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