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Dragon Sd.Kfz. 184 "Elefant" ----FINISHED----

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  • Member since
    April 2007
  • From: Schroon Lake, NY
Posted by SMJmodeler on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 3:36 PM

Ben323:  Your skills are increasing exponentially...and I can practically hear the enthusiasm in your voice as I read your posts!...gotta love thatYes!

I admire your willingness to tackle new skills.  The zim', as mentioned, is too thick BUT the application is superb.  You have the rare talent of "randomness".  That is my term for the ability to apply a technique effectively in a fashion that goes beyond application in the logical locations (foot & hand hold abuse areas are an example of more easily identified logical locations)  without OVERDOING it.  When "randomness" is done well the whole build just seems 'right"...does that make sense?

The abuse and tweaked corners on the rear bin look great.  Did you make those divots on the side of the upper hull?  They are nice.

OK...all that being said...THIS BAD BOY NEEDS A BASE!!!  I love how you've determined in your mind the scenario that led the vehicle to look the way it does but you need to guide the viewer along the same path.  The debris work is great but the tank needs to rest on some of that same debris.  You could set her on a modestly sized base (they have pre-cut wood ones at Michaels) then add/build a small corner of a wall that was clipped by the tank producing the rubble you've worked so hard to get right.  Just my 2 cents.

Wonderful work Ben, you've got me excited to see what you're going to try next!!! 

  • Member since
    January 2006
  • From: California
Posted by SprueOne on Monday, November 26, 2012 8:01 PM

I'll be watching how to deal with the issues of the JSU-122 because I also have this kit but have not started it yet.

Anyone with a good car don't need to be justified - Hazel Motes

 

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  • Member since
    October 2009
Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Monday, November 26, 2012 4:11 PM

Agree with all the others, very nice finish!  The weathering looks great!  Look forward to all your other builds.  Like Eric said...get busy.

Rob

  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Sunday, November 25, 2012 11:48 PM

Better get busy mister. Wink

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 Eric 

  • Member since
    September 2010
  • From: Qubec, Canada
Posted by Ben323 on Sunday, November 25, 2012 6:31 PM

Hey guys,

Im glad you liked my Elefant! And thanks for all the awesome replies!

My next few projects will be a Shanghai Dragon Panther Ausf. G command version w/ Steel Wheels. Im doing a complete overhaul of this model. Going the whole 9 yards on this thing. 

Then it'll be a OOB Jagdtiger from DML with zim. I plan to do a whitewash on this one. 

After that I'll be working on a JgpzE100 from Trumpeter. Possibly getting fruils for this one

Then maybe, if I don't get a new cool model, I'll build a Jsu-122 from Shanghai Dragon. Im giving this one a complete overhaul too.

Oh boy I have a longggg list of models to make. I still have a DML Flak 38(t) Ausf.M Late Production and an Academy M36 Jackson on the bench too Tongue Tied

Anyway 

Thanks guys!

Ben K.

  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Sunday, November 25, 2012 2:18 PM

Nicely worn look to the Elefant. Courageous effort on the zimmerit as well.

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 Eric 

  • Member since
    April 2010
  • From: Yuma, AZ
Posted by Ripcord on Sunday, November 25, 2012 1:39 PM

Good job!

Mike

  • Member since
    January 2006
  • From: California
Posted by SprueOne on Sunday, November 25, 2012 1:37 PM

Outstanding work. 

Looks like it just rolled out from under a collapsed building.

Total realism! 

Anyone with a good car don't need to be justified - Hazel Motes

 

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  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, November 25, 2012 11:15 AM

You achieved what you were after Ben, that's the most important part! Yes

  • Member since
    September 2009
  • From: Rugby, England
Posted by Hinksy on Sunday, November 25, 2012 11:05 AM

Great job Ben - the rubble looks great, just like it's reversed through an entire house for shelter!

You can't beat a good bashed up, battered build imo!

Ben Toast

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  • Member since
    September 2006
  • From: Australia
Posted by Blitzwing on Sunday, November 25, 2012 3:42 AM

Very nice dusty look you achieved there. Definitely looks like its seen a lot of street fighting. Very nicely done.

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  • Member since
    November 2004
  • From: Essex England
Posted by spacepacker on Sunday, November 25, 2012 3:10 AM

You knew what you were looking for and you have definitely hit the mark!.

I think it's a great finish, well done...cheers....Kenny

  • Member since
    March 2006
  • From: Right Side of a Left State
Posted by Shellback on Sunday, November 25, 2012 2:19 AM

Definitely different looking Elephant than what i'm used to seeing . I like !

  • Member since
    August 2008
  • From: S.W. Missouri
Posted by Pvt Mutt on Saturday, November 24, 2012 8:06 PM

BK I would say that was the look you were after alright.CoolYes

Great finishToast

Tony lee

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  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Saturday, November 24, 2012 7:58 PM

I have no idea how accurate the paint scheme is but I love the weathering. The dust and rubble looks very convincing! Yes

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    September 2010
  • From: Qubec, Canada
Posted by Ben323 on Saturday, November 24, 2012 6:32 PM

Hey Guys, 

I finally finished my elefant! Stick out tongue

I molded her to look like a late war tank that has been fighting in the city for a while. I made some bricks and debris to make it look like things have been blowing up all over ! As per Pvt Mutt's instructions, my dust is a light grey brown color which I mixed up myself. Hope it pleases you ! Wink

The antenna I got from RBmodels as per usual. 

Here are the pictures,

There you go! 

If you want more pictures or have questions just ask. Oh and critique is welcome !!!Big Smile

Ben K.

  • Member since
    August 2008
  • From: S.W. Missouri
Posted by Pvt Mutt on Sunday, November 18, 2012 4:48 PM

Ben I was thinking lighter colors because your model is dark, get the picture?

These might get my point across for you

Tony lee

Shoot Low Boys They're Ridin Ponys

  • Member since
    September 2010
  • From: Qubec, Canada
Posted by Ben323 on Sunday, November 18, 2012 4:34 PM

Here are a couple of mixes ....

Ben K.

  • Member since
    August 2008
  • From: S.W. Missouri
Posted by Pvt Mutt on Sunday, November 18, 2012 4:21 PM

Urban crud

How about shades of gray for concrete and maybe a hint of brick red for brick dust.

A light dusting of a buff or light tan for dirt dust.

Those would work for me anyway

Tony lee

Shoot Low Boys They're Ridin Ponys

  • Member since
    September 2010
  • From: Qubec, Canada
Posted by Ben323 on Sunday, November 18, 2012 3:54 PM
Thanks for the constructive critique! It was my first time making that stuff so I knew it wasnt going to look amazing!
Oh yeah, quick question, what type of mud/dirt/dust color should i put on it if its been fighting in the city?
Thanks

Ben K.

  • Member since
    August 2008
  • From: S.W. Missouri
Posted by Pvt Mutt on Sunday, November 18, 2012 3:23 PM

No one has said a word yet about your zimm Ben and since i'm a redneck and don't know no better than to show my ignorance i'll step up and say something.

Your zimm is way to thick. For scale it won't be much more than a smear with the ridges in it.

Practice on a sheet of EverGreen before you do your next zimm covered build and the improvement will be great,you'll see.

Paint job looks really good btw and so does your workmanship.

Tony leeToast

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  • Member since
    September 2010
  • From: Qubec, Canada
Posted by Ben323 on Sunday, November 18, 2012 12:28 PM

Hey guys!

Thanks for all the replies!Smile

TREYZX10R: Thanks !Big Smile

Blitzwing: I just got that clearflat on! Literally 10 min agoStick out tongue

Hinksy: The new elefant that came out with the zim has no battle damage moulded in. Thats why I opted for this version of the kit. Also I think my kit was the premium one so it came with indie link tracks (MagicTrack). I really like these but recently I got hooked on Fruils and my LHS has a pair on sale....hmmmmmm.Whistling Yup, there are two Ben's!Stick out tongue

PANZERWAFFE: Thanks for the kind comment! Boosted my morale tenfold !Big Smile

Bish: The paint scheme was originally used on Panthers in late 1945. But I thought it looked amazing and wanted to try it but I already have a different camo scheme for the panther which Im building right now.

wbill76: Thanks! Your builds are amazing and your one of the main guys who I idolize in modeling ! I strive to make my models as good as yours!Big Smile

Ben K.

  • Member since
    September 2009
  • From: Rugby, England
Posted by Hinksy on Sunday, November 18, 2012 11:09 AM

Aaah man!

Two Ben's - I'm already getting confused. Best just stick to signing off as Hinksy!

Ben, no erm, Hinksy!

On the Bench - Dragon Pz. IV Ausf. G (L.A.H.) Yes

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  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Texas
Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, November 18, 2012 10:25 AM

Forum is alive and kicking, even if there are some going about ringing a bell to 'bring out the dead'! Stick out tongue Nice to see progress on this one Ben, the camo pattern is different and eye-catching, nice job on that! Beer

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, November 18, 2012 10:08 AM

Ben, theres been a few hickup's, but its not dead yet, far from it.

Nice work there. Is that paint scheme based on a real one or did you come up with it. It looks very different, i like it.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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    October 2009
Posted by PANZERWAFFE on Sunday, November 18, 2012 9:46 AM

Hey Ben,  may not be completely accurate but I really like what you have done!!  Your paint job came out very nice and I believe it may be one of your best builds yet.  It is very eye pleasing and I have really enjoyed looking at it.  Look forward to the completion Beer

Rob

  • Member since
    September 2009
  • From: Rugby, England
Posted by Hinksy on Sunday, November 18, 2012 6:03 AM

Hi Ben,

Nice looking build there buddy. I'm not a fan of adding Zimmerit myself (because I'm a lazy git) so I asked for the latest Dragon pre-Zimmed Elefant for my Birthday back at the beginning of this month. I'll be starting it next month. Luckily they've used their heads and added some battle damage to to the moulded Zim in the way of missing detailed moulded sections.

I see you've removed the Tracks Ben. Did you install them but not fix them in place so they could be removed for ease of painting? If so is there any way they can be removed or could they be replaced with Friuls or Modelkasten tracks. My kit came with DS tracks - I'd send you them but I might use them on my build. Undecided yet as I'm a big fan of Friuls.

Good looking build sir!

Ben Toast

On the Bench - Dragon Pz. IV Ausf. G (L.A.H.) Yes

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  • Member since
    September 2006
  • From: Australia
Posted by Blitzwing on Sunday, November 18, 2012 3:23 AM

Beautiful looking Elefant there and very nice paint scheme and weathering. A bit of flat to dull that slight shine, put on the tracks and you will have one great build. Nicely done.

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  • Member since
    August 2009
  • From: Borlando Fla home of the rat
Posted by TREYZX10R on Saturday, November 17, 2012 3:28 PM

Looks great Ben!

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