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1/35 MaxxPro w/ scratch built RPG netting - Afghanistan 2014 * WIP

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  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Valrico, FL
Posted by HeavyArty on Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:06 PM

You can also use bridal viel toole.  It is a small octagonal mesh.  I use it for turret baskets and the like.  It comes in a couple different sizes as well.  You can find it at fabric stores.  A square yard (about $2.00) will last a lifetime.

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, March 26, 2015 2:25 PM

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Dripping Springs, TX, USA
Posted by RBaer on Thursday, March 26, 2015 1:48 PM

Chris, welcome back!

Looks like you're jumping back in with a grand project as well.

I have another suggestion for the mesh: A number of years ago, I gave in to my wife's desire to have a pool put in. One of the positives (other than being able to jump in the damm thing after working all day in a 110 degree shop) was the mesh from the worn out leaf skimmers. They last about 3 years, and I've been using sections of the old ones for the mesh in bustle racks for a while now. It may be a bit big for what you're needing to represent, but the ones I've been buying lately are actually molded, not woven but look woven, take paint really well and adhere with cryo glue.

I'd be happy to send you a little section of it if you wanna take a look-see.....    I've got a lot. PM me if interested.

Apprentice rivet counter.

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  • From: Colorado
Posted by psstoff995 on Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:58 AM

Roy, Gino, I think you're both right. Depending on the size of the mesh screen I think that would work a lot better. Knew you guys would have some ideas. I think the only potential issue I was trying to avoid with the bug screen and using PE would be the effect of the droop. In 1/1 scale these things really are just nets, and there is no stiffness whatsoever to them, they're not hanging tightly off the framework either, so they wind up drooping pretty noticeably. There's the issue of the little octagonal discs that are at every net string intersection too, but I think in this scale I'll be okay to just avoid them all together.

Pawel, nice to see that you're still around here too, glad to hear from you again. I think the PE screens would work just as well as the bug screens but the bug screens seem easier to get a hold of. That being said if I wind up finding a spot where I need some custom PE I've always wanted to try that route as I've seen people that design their own stuff to good effects.

disastermaster, glad to be back I'll have to look through everyones galleries of recent work, I've been away at least 4 years from the site, that's a lot of builds! That Sherman in your signature looks real nice, great photography as well

Gamera, thanks! I appreciate it. I thought it was going to be a lot of work too, but once I had everything figured out for the RPG framework it actually went together pretty quickly, especially once I figured out some good soldering techniques on YouTube <- an invaluable modeling resource these days, I've been watching MIG Airbrushing videos and all kinds of walk throughs now, pretty cool that they can upload full length movies instead of having a 10 minute cap now.

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, March 26, 2015 8:06 AM

A lot of work but she's going to look awesome!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: On my kitchen counter top somewhere in central North Carolina.
Posted by disastermaster on Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:43 AM

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/new-year/confetti-cannon-smiley-emoticon.gifGood to see you back home here with a great debut!

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  • From: Valrico, FL
Posted by HeavyArty on Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:46 AM

Looks like you are off to a good start.  I second the window screen or some other type of mesh as opposed to the cheese cloth.  Cheese cloth works well for camo nets, but I don't think it would look right for the RPG screen.

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Thursday, March 26, 2015 5:11 AM

Hello Chris!

Good to see you back on the forums!

You might want to try to do your own PE parts - I mean draw them (CorelDRAW is best for this) and find a company to etch them for you. I tried it once and it works just fine. The other option could also be to laser-cut them - companies that offer this service are also very popular.

Anyhow, welcome back, good luck with your build and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by T26E4 on Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:46 AM

At this scale, would vinyl mesh -- the kind used to repair window bug screens -- be an option?

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  • From: Colorado
1/35 MaxxPro w/ scratch built RPG netting - Afghanistan 2014 * WIP
Posted by psstoff995 on Thursday, March 26, 2015 2:08 AM

After a long hiatus, four years (so far) of Army service and a few quick weekend projects that turned into month long builds, I decided to start a month long build that will no doubt take me quite some time to complete.

I've deployed twice to Afghanistan with the biggest benefit being plenty of reference pictures and the layout of vehicles/equipment forever burned into my brain. With all this knowledge, I decided I should build a vehicle that I lived in for a few months overseas. The International MaxxPro MRAP. Very close to my heart Heart

Kinetic makes a decent kit but it's either based on one of the early 2007 models or it's some kind of export model of the MaxxPro. I say this because 1) the version I manned the turret in had some pretty serious differences but 2) I saw this version Kinetic modeled their kit after in service as late as 2014 (maybe still?) with the Romanian Army. So depending on what you want to build, this may very well be a nice kit right out of the box.

I did invest in the Voyager PE set as well (mainly for the sake of the rear ramp stairs. The kit stairs are garbage but we'll get to that one of these days).

The first challenge I knew I was going to have to overcome (and what has prevented me from starting this sooner) was not only the aforementioned fact that Kinetic's MaxxPro is of the wrong vintage, but more importantly- every vehicle I saw on Highway 1 (with the exception of some REMF vics that had to eventually be pulled off of FOBs after years of hibernation with the rest of the war effort as we shut the country down last year) had some kind of RPG netting or cage device attached to it.

As I have never seen anyone build an MRAP with such a net, I knew there was likely no AM parts, which meant I'd have to do it on my own.

I thought this meant I would have to try and work with styrene pipe or rod or some kind of mess that no doubt would take too long for the glue to set, would snap when bent or melt if I tried to heat it up, I don't know, basically I'm not too hot when it comes to scratch building with styrene. It's too soft and too malleable and I'm just not patient enough.

Then I had an epiphany... why not use brass rod and just solder it in place? Oh right Chris, because the last thing you soldered was some copper plumbing with a blow torch and your Dad's supervision in the year 2000. At best. But eh... how hard could it be?

And sure enough, here we are...

Shown on a 1/35 (roughly) scale blow up of the MaxxPro diagram from the Kinetic instruction to help give me a basis to bend/cut brass rod- and some of the RPG netting structure already completed. There was a pretty decent learning curve but I think for the most part I've figured it out. The actual netting is going to wind up being something like cheese cloth unless someone chimes in with a better idea.

Here's my workbench by the way

And what I resort to when the "helping hands" aren't up to the task.

Just some cork board, not trying to burn up my barracks room furniture...

Here's some progress on the actual kit itself.

First major attempted fix to the kit (unsuccessful representation, but better than nothing?)

I tried to get the turret to sit flush on the roof, the kit (and the other version of the MaxxPro) had a box elevated off the roof about 4 to 6" (in 1/1 scale) that the turret sat on top of. Almost like the whole turret was an after thought when they designed it, so they just plopped it down on top. The version I had was flush, this isn't a great picture, but you can see just how low the turret sits compared to how the MaxxPro looks on the box art.

Also, you'll get to see me (the one with the blue colored 1/2 sleeve) playing soccer with the ANA in the foreground.

By the way, unless otherwise noted, all these reference pictures are my own property. Either taken by myself or my coworkers.

-Chris

US Army Infantryman

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