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Sdkfz 250/1 Neu Premium WIP *Finished 01-13*

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, November 26, 2007 4:53 PM
Glad it helps, the 4 digit tac numbers on the 9th SS vehicles are something I've not seen before, usually 4 digit numbers are associated with AufKlarungs units ala the Luchs.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 26, 2007 2:28 PM
Awesome, thanks, Bill----that third scheme was done by a Japanese modeler not too long ago; I'll post a pic of it tonight, as well as those ref pics you need...
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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, November 26, 2007 1:58 PM

Here you go.

And the decal sheet.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 26, 2007 1:42 PM

 wbill76 wrote:
Markings option on the CH 251/2? I've got that one in the stash and can scan it in for you later this evening when I'm back at home.
Oops, sorry, Bill---I meant marking options for the one in progress, the 250/1 Neu...if you could scan those I'd greatly appreciate it.  I can just make out some of them on the side of the box. 

I am particularly interested in 4 digit tactical markings...note the pics I posted earlier in the thread w/ the one that is marked as "72 04"...thanks.

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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, November 26, 2007 1:38 PM
Markings option on the CH 251/2? I've got that one in the stash and can scan it in for you later this evening when I'm back at home.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 26, 2007 10:03 AM
 wbill76 wrote:
The mortar carrier would be a neat addition for sure! Are you sure about the Alte vs. Neu layout on the /1? My understanding is that the Mauser racks were removed in favor of the similar equipment layout of the /5 sans radios. That's how the new interior is arranged with this kit as well as some additional changes to the driver's compartment that also seem to be compatible with a Neu /5...I'm thinking that DML assumed that the Neu arrangement would be the same just without the added radios but I haven't been able to confirm that with actual photos of a /1 Neu interior.
Bill, let me check my refs later tonight when I get home.  I just bought two huge volumes on the 250 and already had some smaller refs...seems like most of the "official" German manuals I have seen published show the Alte interiors, but I may have some interor /1 pics...I did see one of those mortar carriers scratched a long time ago using Tamiya's old 250---looked awesome! Probably wouldn't be too dificult today, given that DML has the mortar kit out (and they also released a Cyberhobby 251 mortar carrier)...by the way, I'd love to see the markings options on that kit if you have the time. Thanks.
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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, November 26, 2007 9:57 AM
The mortar carrier would be a neat addition for sure! Are you sure about the Alte vs. Neu layout on the /1? My understanding is that the Mauser racks were removed in favor of the similar equipment layout of the /5 sans radios. That's how the new interior is arranged with this kit as well as some additional changes to the driver's compartment that also seem to be compatible with a Neu /5...I'm thinking that DML assumed that the Neu arrangement would be the same just without the added radios but I haven't been able to confirm that with actual photos of a /1 Neu interior.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 26, 2007 8:29 AM
 wbill76 wrote:
MR, if you've got internals of the /1 Neu I'd be most grateful. All of the internal shots of the Neu layout I've got are from the /5, and are the same ones you've posted, so being able to see what's specific to the /1 vs. the /5 would be great.
I will scan what I have tonight and post them...all of the German layout shots are taken with the Alte body-style, but according to my sources the equipment layout did not change from Alte to Neu. I wish they would come out w/ the 81mm mortar carrier!
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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, November 26, 2007 8:20 AM
MR, if you've got internals of the /1 Neu I'd be most grateful. All of the internal shots of the Neu layout I've got are from the /5, and are the same ones you've posted, so being able to see what's specific to the /1 vs. the /5 would be great.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 26, 2007 8:18 AM
 wbill76 wrote:

Ron,

Couldn't allow a perfectly fine Sunday go to waste when there's kits to be built! Big Smile [:D]

RandW, Tigerman, hope you enjoy the ride.

MR,

You have a kit of the 250/5? The artillery spotting variant? Who makes it? From whate I've been able to determine so far, the DML interior design copied that of the /5 instead of the /1 and just left out the radios and stand for the spotting scopes.

Bill, it is a DML kit...one of their original Neu 250's...the interior is pretty accurate, but based on some refs I have of the actual layour of a /5 it does need a little tweaking, but nothing major...the /5 was very close to the /3, except for the spotting scopes and seat layout...I can send you any interior layout of any mark of 250 you want, as--like I said earlier--I have been doing tons of research lately on these; here is the 250/5 layout (in the alte body version):...looking forward to more of your build...
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Posted by wbill76 on Monday, November 26, 2007 8:09 AM

Ron,

Couldn't allow a perfectly fine Sunday go to waste when there's kits to be built! Big Smile [:D]

RandW, Tigerman, hope you enjoy the ride.

MR,

You have a kit of the 250/5? The artillery spotting variant? Who makes it? From whate I've been able to determine so far, the DML interior design copied that of the /5 instead of the /1 and just left out the radios and stand for the spotting scopes.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 25, 2007 11:29 PM
Very cool...I have being doing a ton of research on this little thing lately as I want one (I have the 250/5)...I see that DML has upgraded the front tires in their "sandwich" style...I'll be watching to see what else is new on this bad-boy!
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Posted by tigerman on Sunday, November 25, 2007 11:15 PM
Like all of your tutorials, this should be fun.

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 Eric 

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Posted by RandW on Sunday, November 25, 2007 9:19 PM
This should be an interesting build, looking forward to the progress.
James "I'll have a Coke" Funny Man Rocco
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Posted by biffa on Sunday, November 25, 2007 9:13 PM

No rest for the wicked eh Bill (think i said that once before lol) cool subject once again i look forward to tagging along Smile [:)]

 

Ron g.
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Sdkfz 250/1 Neu Premium WIP *Finished 01-13*
Posted by wbill76 on Sunday, November 25, 2007 9:06 PM

With the StuG done and a full Sunday ahead of me, it was the perfect time to start up a new one. This time it's DML's Sdkfz 250/1 Neu Premium.

 

 

Work began where it usually does, at Step 1! This step is a very simple step, it installs the sprocket drive housings, parts H3/H6, to the hull tub.

I skipped Step 2 since that deals with the installation of the suspension arms and the idler arm. Test fits showed just a little bit of play in the arms so to avoid issues when the tracks are constructed, they will be installed later.

Step 3 deals with all of the road wheels and the sprockets. The sprockets are 3 part assemblies and each part has 4 connection points, so care is needed when removing from the sprues. The insert, G3, needs to be installed to H2 first to avoid problems and I used locking tweezers to slowly clamp each of the rollers together 2 at a time using liquid glue. The idler pair, parts G20/G4, are different from the standard road wheel pair in that G20 has a larger hole, so I marked these on the back with a Sharpie to insure I don't get them mixed up later on. The contact pins for the road wheel halves are tiny and not very helpful in keeping alignment, so I went slow through this part and made sure each wheel set was aligned properly before moving on to the next one.

Steps 4 and 5 deal with the installation of the wheels and the tracks, both of which were skipped. However the base for the steering rod, A8, was installed. Step 6 deals with the main part of the front wheel suspension and consists of 4 parts. All of these are from the older mold and need a bit more clean-up on seam lines as a result. The suspension is not workable/positionable without alteration, so I assembled parts A1, A4, and A5 together first and then glued them into the lower hull before attaching the Y-shaped brace part A6.

Step 7 adds some additional suspension details in the form of the steering linkage and the tow hooks.

This step also deals with the construction of the front tires and wheel hubs. Each tire is constructed from 5 slices plus the wheel hub and the instructions are misleading a bit here in terms of  when the hub needs to be added to the "stack" of slices. It's not possible to keep the wheel hub separate for painting and still construct the wheel since the first two slices need to be attached first.

Then the rest of the slices can be added on top of that to construct a very detailed tread pattern. Once all the slices were in place, I ran some liquid glue carefully around the lip of the rim to secure the hub in place.

This was repeated for the second tire to complete the step. Later on I'll use a sharp knife point to modify the U on the "Continentau" and see about adding a piece of stretched sprue or something for the missing valve stem for the tires.

Next up will start work on the interior.

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