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"Midnight Raid in Mosul" Dio & Write-up....

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Posted by camo junkie on Monday, April 27, 2009 9:36 AM
yeah i suppose i did..but he's a cutie!! never owned a puppy b4 this should be interesting...definately going to be busy following him around. the 3 hour car ride back in a few days should be equally "interesting"!! he's sleeping right now so i have a few minutes. brought some of my modeling to do would like to work on it. perhaps when the wife and m-i-l get's back from the hospital (mom's having knee surgery). hoping to get at least this one thing done b4 i leave so that all i have left on the dio is to build and paint some figs!!! btw...better u than me with the 3...2's going to be more than enough!! Propeller [8-]
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Posted by modelchasm on Monday, April 27, 2009 8:37 AM

HAHA!!! You got suckered!!! ... just like me .... three times over. Congrats and enjoy the new pup!

Thats one of the great things about modeling .... you can stop for a bit and your work is right there when you decide to come back to it!

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Posted by camo junkie on Sunday, April 26, 2009 8:43 PM
hey guys. made it 2 the inlaws. rather uneventful....at least until i passed by the hose where my wife got her dog...there on the lawn was a puppies 4 sale sign and now...i've got a 4 yr old corgie and an 8 week old corgie!!! promised the wife she could get another dog and i guess 2-day was the day. what does this all have 2 do with modeling...well...gonna be busy with this pup...but i'll get my dio done real soon...i promised next weekend...maybe sooner may be a bit later... (later more than likely) but not much i assure u. hope u guys are doing ok...getting something done??? Mischief [:-,]
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Posted by camo junkie on Thursday, April 23, 2009 1:58 PM
i couldnt really tell ya what way to go since this is all uncharted water for me! Pirate [oX)] just depends on how big or small u want it i suppose!?!?! yeah thanks for the insight right...LOL.
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Posted by psstoff995 on Thursday, April 23, 2009 12:42 PM

Hey, surprises are good, I know I'm looking forward to it. But I mean I also build dioramas vicariously through you two, so update pics are always nice. Feel free to PM away if you want an opinion! But I don't mind waiting for the surprise.

 

Model as for your conundrum, I'd try mocking up the 1/35 guys next to your FO wire. If it doesn't look way too big for the scale, I think the size of the box would be waay more manageable in 1/35. 1/12 would be crazy awesome, but I think if you wanted to do it with the lights and the shadow box, 1/35 might be a better way to go?

-Chris

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Posted by modelchasm on Thursday, April 23, 2009 12:33 PM

OOoooo..... the casting/ molding process always seems to take a bit of time.

With the SF build drying, I'm taking another look at this build. I'm still on the hanger as to what course of action I'm going to go with. I've pretty much settled down to three:

1) Continue the build as is, with the 1/12 figures, but just build it as a static dio.

2) Same as #1, but build it into the original idea with all the lighting and lasers ... possibly closing it into a shadow box.

3) Go with the original idea, but with 1/35 figures into a shadow box.

Hmmm .... so much to think about ....

Opinions are welcome ...

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Posted by camo junkie on Thursday, April 23, 2009 11:57 AM
either or....but i value your input and would like ya to see it b4 i get too far ahead. busy making molds right now so while that's setting im gonna go take the dog 4 a walk!! Propeller [8-]
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Posted by modelchasm on Thursday, April 23, 2009 10:48 AM

That's a techinque ... Feel free to suprise us if that's what you're going for. No need to "check in" with us .... we're just curious. You know that.

Hope it's going well.

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Posted by camo junkie on Thursday, April 23, 2009 7:07 AM
well, i cant give ya updates other than verbally. the way i see it, even though i'm done with the base, if i show an update, i think it would distract from the final build. i mean you and (anyone else) who saw the building and basic idea know what's there of course and even though i "enhanced" it since you've seen it last the same basic thing is there without the figs. i guess i just simply want to WOW you guys with a finished product by making some of it "new" to the senses!! i know i may be shooting myself in the foot because i need your inputs...hhmmmm....well, i suppose i could pm you guys for inputs that way no one else see's the "finished" product. i dont know let me know what ya think!!
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Posted by modelchasm on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 10:47 PM

No worries, camo ... this is half your thread anyways!!!

Post away ... I want some updates!!!

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Posted by camo junkie on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 10:33 PM
well, whatever it takes!!! i prmoise i wont post any of my dio build to this anymore...lol. will make my own thread upon completion! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] anyway, good luck with this amoung all your other "doings"!!
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Posted by modelchasm on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 10:22 PM

So I thought I'd jump-start this one again ... and no, not b/c it dopped to the 2nd page ... well, ok, that was part of it. HAHA!

As per one of my last posts, I think that I'm going to scrap the 1/12 figures, although they would have made an impressive build, they were just too big. So, I'm going to re-start this one, using a shadow box idea to begin with, using 1/35 figures.

I've got a lot on my brain at the moment when it comes to this build. I don't want it to fail all together, but I'm not 100% on using the 1/35 figures either. I just keep thinking how nice those 1/12 scale figure would look .... plus I've already spent the money too!

Either way, this one's going to be stuck on paper until I decide which way I'm going to go. Large or small, I'm going to re-start it ..... may have to let this one drop to the 3rd or maybe even the 4th page (say it ain't so!) before I pull this one back out....

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Posted by modelchasm on Friday, April 10, 2009 4:51 PM

I .... still ... sniff ..... sniff ..... ..... I still need a hug!! .... sniff, sniff.

HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!

I'm glad that you and I are so very similar, camo! But it's good that we're "forum friends" though, we might have either gotten each other in trouble with the law, or killed each other if we lived next door!

I didn't take your comments as negative. But friends or not, some people do get a little defensive about their builds .... and damn-it, stop calling yourself mediocre modeler. You're not .... you're a good builder. Seriously.

Now where's you're updated pictures ... on your own thread! (I think this one already has like 3 builds on it!?!)

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Posted by psstoff995 on Friday, April 10, 2009 4:13 PM
 camo junkie wrote:

btw p.o....went and bought some gray pastels buddy....not to use on this figure but to use on my dio...and to make a point. Laugh [(-D]

Hey wait a minute!!! I take that back!!! Grumpy [|(]

j/k Laugh [(-D] 

-Chris

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Posted by psstoff995 on Friday, April 10, 2009 4:11 PM
hahaha hey camo at least you can crap out pieces of $%^$%^... I still have very few pieces to show and I’ve been tinkering around this hobby for... maybe half my life! lol Ok fine, so I don't think your figures are very rose-ish. However I think if I were to call your Delta Commando a rose... you might look at me a little funny in a new light. Your dio’s nicer than all the dio’s I’ve started and never finished. Never made it to the paint stage to be honest. There're a few spots on the Woodland where there looks like there’s a lot of brown and tan and no green, might be a little too much for my taste, but it doesn’t mean it’s wrong, you’ve been in the Army longer than I Tongue [:P]. I did not notice that seam on the helmet just now (strange that their 1/16 figure builds up just like their 1/35 copy- I had it for one piece...). But for a 6 year old closet resurrection, this things pretty nice, can’t argue about that camo!!! And I’m not blowing smoke up your Censored [censored]

-Chris

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Posted by camo junkie on Friday, April 10, 2009 3:55 PM

model, you got it all wrong. there's no hard feelings on this end! i tell ya one thing i despise about writing......people always put THEIR thoughts, emotions, and interpretations into your written word and that usually leads to trouble!!! that's y i put a million little smiley faces or p.o'ed faces or whatever to "help" interpret my points. Angry [:(!] again model...i can take constructive criticism...if it sux...it sux. (btw i realize im spelling that wrong). it is what it is. i wouldnt post, nor waste my time building and posting, if i thought everyone was going to love what i produce. as i said 1,000,001 times now...i'm a mediocre modeler...and that means...absolutely nothing!!! i'm 38 and have been modeling since i got out of the army after desert storm...basically im saying i'm old and wise enough to not worry about my "feelings" getting hurt!!! if ya go back and look at my posts...i asked for your opinions!! now, we're cool on this end bud...how bout u?

as for your fig...i loved it...u know that. i was making a point about the fact that some judge told you or whatever, that the face needed more depth...your guy had glasses on...how much face was there really to care about it??? and as for where u placed...i was also trying to make u feel better because if you placed 1st or 3rd...does it really matter especially if 100 people tried to place then 3rd was phenominal (in my book).

please dont read too much into my posts model they are not meant as they seem.  i wouldnt waste my time here nor have made a "friend" in you and p.o. if all i wanted was to crap out a piece of $%^$%^ and have you guys call in a rose! Laugh [(-D] 'nuff said!

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Posted by modelchasm on Friday, April 10, 2009 2:55 PM

Easy there tiger .....

Don't get me wrong. I think your figure is great. Really. Just throwing some constructive crit your way. However, YOU have already made the most important point that can be made. You build for yourself ... and ultimatly that's what its about.

I don't really care that I placed 3rd or last ... I like my OIF figure. And there were a lot of people here that liked it too .... that and the 3rd place finish was a plus. I do look at it now and can point out things I could have done better, but really .... who CAN'T look at a finished model and say the same thing!?!

You do what you do, camo. You've got a grip on what it is that you want out of this one. I'll work you from another angle ... like building up a chopped-in-half HMMWV! HAHAHAH!!!!

 

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Posted by psstoff995 on Friday, April 10, 2009 2:45 PM
If it was 103!!! WOW!

-Chris

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Posted by camo junkie on Friday, April 10, 2009 12:16 PM

well, i appreciate everything your saying. i would go back and redo the face if it meant i was going to put it in a show. seeing as how im not...no big deal to me. while i want it to be pleasant to look at...if it gets boo's...oh well...i like it regardless and i refuse to make this anything more or less than a hobby! as i said...if im mediocre...so be it! i will however keep your thoughts in mind should i find the desire to build one of my other 1/16 figs!!

as far as your fig...what was there to make darker...he had sun glasses on so there wasnt much of a face to begin with!! Confused [%-)] besides, even though u took 3rd...how many people entered? was it 3 or was it 33? was it 103? if it was 3...then yeah you can feel like you didnt do so well, if it was 33...you did damn good!!!

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Posted by modelchasm on Friday, April 10, 2009 11:13 AM

HAHAHA ..... Fat guy in a littt-llle coooat ..... HAHAHA!

I'm not worried about you weathering the dang thing. I know you got that covered. I was just thinking that the face needed some .... deeper colors in the flesh tones. I know that pretty much means redoing the whole face, so it's REALLY not necessary. Maybe you could give it a few coats of a really thinned (darker) flech tone color ..... so that it would flow into the recesses.

I don't know ... I'm just thinking.

That was one of the biggest differences btwn my figure and other at the show. The guy that took 1st really had a lot of depth in the face.

But like I said before, I' not worried about you "doing this one up". Just get it finished and then I'll tell you what you did wrong! ... HAHAHA!

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Posted by camo junkie on Friday, April 10, 2009 8:15 AM

thanks for the insight model. i planned on removing the seam on the helmet and adding depth to it as well as touching some things up (as stated). are u saying i should go back over my face for the depth or the figure? i realize the face needs more work...lol. i posted it just to show u i "finished" it and wanted to get some feed back. will go back and touch up and get it how i want it no doubt. or at least well enough to post...Laugh [(-D]. the seam is already gone (removed last night) and am working on the rest. there wasnt a seam on the ^&$^ thing until i had to pry the helmet on that ^$%^&^&^ fat head!!!! lol. cracked it down the middle! no big deal its "fixed" and now to the rest!

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Posted by modelchasm on Thursday, April 9, 2009 9:36 PM

Camo,

You're figure is looking good. The face is looking great, but I'd go back over it to add a little more depth. Is there still a seem on the helment? And I'm sure that you're getting ready to start the whole weathering process, right!?!

You've got a good starting block. Just go for it. Shouldn't take long to get it finished up right.

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Posted by camo junkie on Thursday, April 9, 2009 9:25 PM
well p.o. i use humbrol enamels and one color is one color you cant get it a different shade!! the pattern itself is so basic that i cant screw it up. btw, i did some soul searching and realized that this thing might have been put away in the box maybe as long ago as 6 years. yeah its a long time. funny thing is when i opened it i found a half used tube of testors glue....LOL....i havent used that stuff in FOREVER!!! Laugh [(-D] anyway, i still have more work to do on it, the web gear didnt dirty up like i wanted to...missed some spots after seeing the pics. whatever though, i'll get it. not really sure though if u guys like it or not, let me know will ya...i wont post it if it sux!!! Laugh [(-D]
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Posted by psstoff995 on Thursday, April 9, 2009 8:41 PM
Honestly? I think that's amazing that you managed to match up the colors and the pattern work. No two of my figures look the same if they're done a few months apart, but you got the colors matched up and how many years was it?? And you still painted the same looking pattern... mine would have been half Woodland-1.0 half Woodland-2.0 lol

-Chris

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Posted by camo junkie on Thursday, April 9, 2009 4:06 PM

sorry im gonna use this thread for this model. i would just like you guys to view it and tell me what ya think b4 i put it out there. hope that's ok.  you told me to finish it and today was one of the few days i was motivated to actually do something!! Sign - Dots [#dots] anyway here's my delta guy minus the weapon and the finishing touches!!!

let me know what ya think. btw p.o....went and bought some gray pastels buddy....not to use on this figure but to use on my dio...and to make a point. Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by psstoff995 on Tuesday, April 7, 2009 11:03 PM

 modelchasm wrote:

 And I've NEVER seen an SF guy with a 203 vest on .... that's just crazy talk.

hahahaha yeah that was a little weird. I have a few M79 gunners from a Dragon Nam kit and even then- the grenade vests look weird.

For pete's sake! Well I'm glad something will come of it, even if it's 3 guys lined up on a low wall and that's it- no lights, no box- should still be quite a sight. I think some pictures with a coin or some kind of in scale object would really set this one apart too. No need to make such an already large and complex vignette even more complicated lol

-Chris

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Posted by modelchasm on Tuesday, April 7, 2009 10:55 PM

Well, then far psst sake ... this one shall go forward. I'll continue with my first thought .... just minus the lighting. The overall idea will be of the stack getting ready to move to the door once the charge is set and goes off.

The only change to this that I think I'm going to make is that I think that I'm going to leave the 203 gunner out. I just can't come up with a way to use or loose the vest. And I've NEVER seen an SF guy with a 203 vest on .... that's just crazy talk.

Thanks guys for "believing" in this one ....

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Posted by psstoff995 on Tuesday, April 7, 2009 10:40 PM

Hey! hahaha made it, still the PM. Sorry- today was laundry day. I did finally manage to add the wire for the radio... that took too long, looks ok. But even more of a PitA than the slings....

Glad to see I was missed? lol or talked about at least. That 1/16 figure looks familiar, for a second I thought you had made two of that 1/35 scale guy from your 1st dio.

I'd love to see at least one of those modified 1/12 scale guys modified and built up, lights or not... this MRiM project came to far...

The quick build was looking real good though before you left, is it still just stuck with the primer? That'd make sense that you'd want to wait until you figure out the groundwork before you'd move on. ACU again? Or 3 tone?

And camo- you know you'll beat me on whatever it is you finally paint up- I've been looking for powders for a while... That'll be the first part of the stage. Did some shading work with paint and muddied up the elbows and knees. But it's stuck again... lol no surprise.

-Chris

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Posted by modelchasm on Tuesday, April 7, 2009 9:40 PM

That's probably true ... man, college kids are WIERD!!!! Glad I was never like that!?!?!

HAHAHAHHA!!!!

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