Mech warrior

In terms of scale, it's really only relevant to the original context in which they appeared.

As far as the Macross Glaug kits (BT Marauder) are concerned, compared with other "same scale" kits ftom the Macross series, they are undersized. Remembering that a Zentraedi pilot/soldier is roughly the same size as a Valkyrie, you have to ask yourself "Would a Valkyrie fit in the cockpit?".  If I recall correctly, the answer would have to be "No". (A 1/100 scale Valkyrie is about 14 cm tall.)

However, taken out of the Macross Universe and put into the BT Universe, you can call it any scale you want.

EDIT: Having said that, the "official" quoted height for a Battroid Valkyrie is 12.68m, whereas the quoted height for a Glaug is 16.55m - put it down to artistic license I suppose.....

I've seen the 1:72s of the mecha you mentioned on ebay.  You're right, waaay too much for my budget as well.  Have you thought about the 1:100 versions of those mechs to be closer to the BT "game" scale as opposed to the scale from the original animes?

I also have the Ziyon kit.  I'm planning on building it with the Kurita reflective camo scheme from the old MechWarrior rulebook.  I'm also looking at using some of my spares of other Macross kits in 1:100 for similar BT projects.  After what I read about the lance you want to build, I checked the kits I had handy for size and thought about the BT tonnage stats.  First, the stats: Battlemaster-85t, Marauder-75t, Warhammer-70t, Rifleman-60t.

The box for the Ziyon kit says it's 16.5 cm assembled.  The size for the Glaug ( BT "Marauder" ) in 1:100 is also about 16.5 cm and would be about 23cm in 1:72.  The Tomahawk ( BT "Warhammer" ) is 12.7 cm in 1:100 and would be 17.6 cm in 1:72.  I didn't have the Defender ( BT "Rifleman" ) kit handy, but it's about the same size as the Tomahawk. Going with 1:72 for all of them, you'd have the "Lord of the Battlefield" being shorter than mechs 10-15 tons lighter, 25 tons in the case of the Rifleman! 

The only kit with visible crew is the Ziyon so you don't have to worry about different-scale visible pilots. 

I would love some of these to be repopped in 1/72nd so I can finish my Heavy Lance.

Only mech I have is the Battlemaster from the Revell kit.  I also have the 8-wheeled armored car (with the turret) and would like a few more of the ground vehicles.

 The ones I have seen on ebay always go for a small fortune so little chance I will get them there.

The ones I want are the Marauder, Rifleman and Warhammer.

The only problem is the Monster wasn't used as a basis for a BT design.  The closest in appearance ( and even this is stretching a bit ) is the Behemoth/Stone Rhino.  The good news about that one is that it was different enough from the Macross designs that it wasn't included in the list of "unseen" after the legal issues came up.

ikar01 wrote:

Don't forget the Destroid Monster from the Macross series.  I found one in 1/160 at a model contest.  They also made one in 1/200, I believe.

That is correct. The larger kit was made by Arii and the smaller by Imai. I have both unbuilt - my understanding is that the smaller one is better shaped/proportioned. Plentiful in the 80's (when I got mine), both are exceedingly difficult and expensive to get hold of now.

I believe there have been larger scale resin versions as well.

I know, right? $80 plus shipping, and as an 80's vintage kit, you just know it's gonna take a lot of work to make it look good. Just not worth it.

More Grrrr!

I forgot about the fighters!  I think the main one I know of from Crusher Joe was called the "Corsair" in BT.  I've only seen small-scale kits of it on evilbay occasionally, but there's no way I'm paying the $50-$80 they ask for that kit that's about 5 inches long!

OK, maybe if I win the lottery...

Kugai wrote:

It's a shame that Harmony Gold pooched things by selling rights to FASA when they weren't in any position to rightfully do so.  At least it helped with FASA's art; no more "tracing" the 2 dozen or so pics they had access to from Tatsunoko.

Oh man, that's my biggest frustration w/ sci-fi modeling right now. I want to build a bunch of those old Crusher Joe kits (especially the fighters that FASA used for Aerotech), and some of those Robotech/Dougram kits like the Tequilla Gunner, but nobody can re-pop them.

Grrrr!!

If anyone's interested in plastic kits of the "unseen" BT mechs in a size closer to mini use, the 1:200 scale Macross line was made by Nichimo.  This covers the old Wasp, Stinger, Phoenix Hawk, Warhammer, Spartan, Rifleman, Crusader, and Marauder designs.  Many of these were also repackaged and sold by Testors in their "R.O.B.O.T." series of kits.  The old Locust is available in a small-scale kit from the series Crusher Joe ( I forget the manufacturer and scale given ).  The 1:144 scale Dougram series is bigger than the Nichimos but may be useful if you can find them and cover the Battlemaster, Wolverine, Shadow Hawk, Thunderbolt, and Griffin designs from BT.

No, I didn't get my first BT box set back in 1985 or anything

It's a shame that Harmony Gold pooched things by selling rights to FASA when they weren't in any position to rightfully do so.  At least it helped with FASA's art; no more "tracing" the 2 dozen or so pics they had access to from Tatsunoko. 

obviously you have never seen Navy and/or Marine females.............

dont get me wrong, some of them are not bad, but the rest.......

who is drooling? if i am drooling over anything it the 1/72 scale VF-25S that just hit the shelfs over here yesterday. cant wait to get one!

A friend of mine from high school, whom I hadn't seen in 20 years, has the 1/35th scale Horizon Mad Cat vinyl kit, and may be passing it to my collection, in unbuilt form.

Okay, Puma, I can hear you drooling all the way over here.

Many of the miniatures are being rereleased, including new sculpts of the 16 unseen mechs from the original battletech game. The game is alive and still pumping out figures.

Steve

I guess that's why I thought that they were discontinued - we were really playing a lot right when that whole "copyright infringement" thing happened.

I have almost ALL of those on the "banned" list...rifleman, warhammer, archer, marauder. Good times! I wonder if I have a pic of any of those figs somewhere. Have to look.