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Posted by SLW 45 on Friday, July 30, 2010 9:59 PM

You better believe I am in

Big Smile

 

                 

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Friday, July 30, 2010 10:57 PM

Oki Dokie, and may I make a correction on the dates, thats Aug 2010 to Jan 2011.  Brain fart on the dates.  Who else would like to throw into the hat, 22 people have look @ w/only 1 taker, but hey thats a start!  U skeer'd.Cool

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Friday, July 30, 2010 10:59 PM

I would but I dont have any more ma.k kits

 

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Friday, July 30, 2010 11:10 PM

I was hoping to hear from you smeagol.  Starship Modeler has a great selection, fast ship and the best prices in town!  www.starshipmodeler.biz.com.  You have all the time you need until the EOY!  I hope very much to see your handy work @ this, getting guys of your calibre is what will get the ones who are timid out in the open and posting a build.  After all, is that not what our hobby is about, people w/a common interest!  Where you @ Modelbuilder, I know your are interested, these are not complicated models to build, heck a AFS can be assembled in a day, now the fun part is in the paint/finish.  So it's not like building a heavy subject.  CJ, U need to be in this too!  I hope many will jump in, get the attention of those watching what is going on in the Ma.K world to see there is many places people are building their kits.  How do you think new stuff will get popped or re-popped for that matter.  But hey no pressure guys, I just need to call back the Buff's!!!!!!!!!!Whistling

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Friday, July 30, 2010 11:22 PM

I will start w/my current WIP:  Wave AFS MkII.

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Posted by ikar01 on Saturday, July 31, 2010 10:51 AM

I have a couple laying around.  I'm in whenI decide which one to build.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Saturday, July 31, 2010 2:09 PM

ikar01

I have a couple laying around.  I'm in whenI decide which one to build.

Looking forward to your build.Cool

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Saturday, July 31, 2010 5:49 PM

If you have a couple why not share the wealth to those of us who dont have any so this GB can get big!

 

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Saturday, July 31, 2010 6:56 PM

Depends if I can scrounge up a kit.

One LHS I think still got a Super-Jerry.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Saturday, July 31, 2010 8:44 PM

Mad-Modeler

Depends if I can scrounge up a kit.

One LHS I think still got a Super-Jerry.

Oh please do, this is a really neat subject and is getting hard to come by.  Yes I wished I could go to my LHS and pick one of these up!  Hope to see you Mad-Modeler, luv the handle.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Saturday, July 31, 2010 8:48 PM

Ok, sum mo pic's on the MK.II WIPGeeked

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Saturday, July 31, 2010 9:15 PM

Im watching one of the rare 1/20th figure kits that I have been DIEING to get on ebay.  If I get it im gona try and grab another ma.k kit and join the gb

 

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Saturday, July 31, 2010 9:32 PM

Well don't die smeagol, we would lose our Historian and a good friend, LOL, but I do soooo much hope you get the AFS.  There are many good deals on eBay now and I hope to snag a few of them as well.  Picked up a 1/76 resin Nutrocker up today, a bit more than I wanted to pay, but I really wanted one of these, until Hasegawa comes out with their Big Plastic version of this beast.  I have been recruiting several other people to come on board from other locations to promote the Ma.K Time Line,  funny how much the story seems to fit some of what is going on to this very day, so the whole thing is a Sci-Fi story, yet could be very possible in the future.  Hope you get it smeagol.  What AFS are you looking to get?  Cheers my friend.Cool

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Saturday, July 31, 2010 9:38 PM

OK, one more photo post of where I am @ with the WIP.

[IMG]http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/rickyhensley/DrillingaAFSMkII002.jpg[/IM

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Saturday, July 31, 2010 11:28 PM

It Isn't a AFS its a Ma.k Figure Kit

 

 

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Posted by Cosmic J on Sunday, August 1, 2010 2:03 AM

Well, I WAS going to decline to join, but a friend over at the MaK boards sent me the parts to build a Melusine - the parts arrived today. So I take that as a sign I should jump in. Big Smile

I'm thinking I might go with a Nitto Racoon kit I have in the stash. Just a nice, basic build, a good foundation for weathering.

You need to come up w/ a GB badge, GM. A picture w/ the title of the GB, and maybe the date, something for participants to hang in their sig lines. The cooler the picture, the better.

Can we maybe extend the time limit too? I'm a sloooow builder. Smile

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Sunday, August 1, 2010 5:28 AM

I think I may have to buy a ma.k kit because I won that auction last night!

 

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 1, 2010 9:42 AM

Boy was happy to read the new postings this morning, two more buildersBig Smile have thrown their hats into the ring with everyone else.  And a big welcome goes out to all.  There is another I will work on tomorrow @ work to get him in to I hope!  This is going to be BIG for Ma.K and a 1st I believe for here.  OK, in response to some request:

1.  I forgot to include figures as part of the build, so any Ma.K related item is welcome.

2.  I also agree I did not allow enough time, so I thought about this, today is the 1st day of Aug, so lets extend the deadline to 1 August 2011.  Heck I might meet that as slow as I am @ building and gives chances for others to see what is being built and maybe joining in.

3.  Has been requested by Cosmic J to come up w/a Group Build Badge w/date.  I agree and will see what I can do, might need some help, not too sure how to do it, so anyone w/any ideas/tips/thoughts please feel free to offer your much appreciated help.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 1, 2010 9:52 AM

I just want to say thank you to all who have came forth and are willing to help promote this Ma.K Group Build.  I believe this will help to expose the wonderful world of these kits to those who visit and read the posting on this wonderful Forum.  It is my intent to get those that are thinking about a build to jump in and be apart, this helps many with their building skills and lets face it, all peoples like to feel they belong in something, I believe it too be just human nature.  Again my heart felt thanks to you all, now does anyone have a hanky, got all emotional there for a sec.  NOW LETS CUT PLASTICWelcome Sign

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 1, 2010 9:54 AM

smeagol the vile

It Isn't a AFS its a Ma.k Figure Kit

http://www.starshipmodeler.biz/shop/images/products/Brickworks/brk004a_111.jpg

 

Boy they didn't have mechanics that looked like that when I was a sprocket head!

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Sunday, August 1, 2010 11:24 AM

I will let you know for sure if I am IN or OUT within the next 2 or 3 days.

 

Busy running errands for my son and doing other shopping trips right now.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 1, 2010 1:14 PM

Mad-Modeler

I will let you know for sure if I am IN or OUT within the next 2 or 3 days.

 

Busy running errands for my son and doing other shopping trips right now.

No rush on anyone, take your time my friend, after all, this is open for a whole year.  But I do hope when time is available we will be blessed with your work.  Thanks for the input.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 1, 2010 1:33 PM

OK as suggested by Cosmic J I submit the following as a choice for the Group Build logo.  Let me know what you think:

GRouP. Bld.  2010

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 1, 2010 1:39 PM

And guys I know it's passe, but I am trying to keep in the theme of the original design even down to the logo as used in marketing.  Now if you have any ideas, please. please feel free to submit and does anyone know how to make this post to the threads as they are posted by those submitting builds.  That I do not know how too do?With Stupid

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Sunday, August 1, 2010 1:45 PM

My suggestion is that you make the ending open ended, or make it a year

 

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 1, 2010 1:49 PM

You feeling lucky today punk, well do ya!

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 1, 2010 1:55 PM

Gunpla Master

OK as suggested by Cosmic J I submit the following as a choice for the Group Build logo.  Let me know what you think:

http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/rickyhensley/GRouP%20BuiLD%20Maschinenkrueger%202010/LOGO-MaK-03.jpg

GRouP. Bld.  2011

GRouP. Bld. 2011

Is this what you are talking about smeagol.  Please feel free to modify as you see fit.  Thanks for the input to.Yes

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 1, 2010 1:57 PM

Whats your feelings on this Cosmic J, after all you are the one who gave birth to this wonderful idea.Toast

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Sunday, August 1, 2010 3:39 PM

Logo looks good to me. Seems to capture the retro 1946 alternate universe

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Sunday, August 1, 2010 3:39 PM

I dont think you have seen them so I figgured I would show you what I have done with ma.k kits in the past

 

 

 

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Sunday, August 1, 2010 3:41 PM

Said that the original series kits I build b4 smeag was born were called SF3D. :P

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 1, 2010 4:01 PM

smeagol that's why I wanted you to be apart of this, you have a great deal of experience to bring to the table.  Thanks for sharing your work, by the way, you still have not said what kit you nabbed from eBay?

Mad-Modeler, you are correct sir.  Before the Time Line we are referring to as Ma.K or Machinenkrueger, it was referred to as SF3D as designed by Kow.  I am sure others can go into the History far better than I can.  You will also see Ma.K referred to as Zbv3000, but regardless of the nomenclature, it all means the same.

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Sunday, August 1, 2010 4:17 PM

http://www.starshipmodeler.biz/shop/index.cfm/product/1252_165/120-mercenaries-woman-maintenance-worker-b.cfm

That is the kit, its why I linked the image

 

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Posted by SLW 45 on Sunday, August 1, 2010 5:07 PM

Man you realy make them look real Yes

And i good with logo with date or without

                 

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 1, 2010 7:08 PM

Gunpla Master

 Gunpla Master:

OK as suggested by Cosmic J I submit the following as a choice for the Group Build logo.  Let me know what you think:

http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/rickyhensley/GRouP%20BuiLD%20Maschinenkrueger%202010/LOGO-MaK-03.jpg

GRouP. Bld.  9-2011

 

GRouP. Bld. 2011

Is this what you are talking about smeagol.  Please feel free to modify as you see fit.  Thanks for the input to.Yes

I added the number f/August so it conveys the month and year ending.  That way it covers the full 12 months.   Unless someone has a different design and or suggestion, will this be OK and how do you go about using it for all the builds.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 1, 2010 10:03 PM

Well to keep things moving w/a build or WIP, today's objective was met, I wanted to apply the rough texture of armor plating to selected areas, final selection of the pose and temp ap of power cables.  One of the things that make a die hard Ma.K builder cringe, is to add to what comes in the kit, but I believe you can always improve any kit.  When these kits 1st hit the market, they were your 1st to be  multi-media kits.  The were made up of the plastic parts, wire, spring f/power cables, some came w/screen, decals and a paint card, of which I might add are very nice and a collection unto themselves.  Now that Wave is re-dong them, some do not come w/the springs but that part is made up from poly plastic.  Now poly is fine for making a joint to move, but I am not a big fan of poly parts of the model.  I for one hate to paint the stuff!  And that is just what the main power cables for the leg to torso is made ofSad  smeagol turned me onto snake chain in another thread, and I found this @ Starship Modeler made by mecha skunk.  Large power cables are 1.9mm size, the power cable for the laser is 1.2mm, of which I will paint red, why you ask?  I noticed that many builds of AFS's had a red cable attached to it @ laser, I asked a good friend on another site why red, his response was, "red makes'em dead", well sir that is good enough for me.  Now do not get me wrong, there is no set in stone decree that says paint this cable red, but I do like the added color and the fact it denotes something of danger and or loss of life!!!!!  I applied the armor texture w/Mr. Surfacer 500 stippled on w/a stiff #4 wide brush w/the bristles cut down to about 1/2 the size of the tip.  Worked great for a armored cast look.  This stuff is good for filling small voids/cracks too.  If your local HS has, do yourself a favor and pick some up. 

 

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 1, 2010 10:13 PM

smeagol the vile

http://www.starshipmodeler.biz/shop/index.cfm/product/1252_165/120-mercenaries-woman-maintenance-worker-b.cfm

That is the kit, its why I linked the image

Duh, sum times I am not the sharpest tool in the shed!  LOL  Bring her on, I need a 1st rate class on how to paint a support figure.

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Monday, August 2, 2010 12:14 AM

Ok first you copied me straight out of the box with those snake chains, though I get them right from Mecha skunk. 

I suggest using the box art and replicating every cable you see there its what I did, if you need to make holes do it.

 

as far as the texturing what I did, if your interested, was I put some squadron white putty in a dish, filled the dish with thinner and put the thinner on in thin sheets.  Once it dried I sanded it ALMOST smooth and it left quite a nice texturing.  Dont leave harsh bumps and ridges that wont look realistic you dont want it to stand out, you just want it to be something in the background, the kind of thing that makes a kit great

 

 

 

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 8:26 AM

Thanks for your help smeagol, and yes you mentioned them in another thread and I wanted to know what snake chain was and when I saw it, thought I would give a try.  So my hat off to you for your wonderful suggestion of which I am well pleased with how they look on the suit.

You have too look close, very hard to see,  the holes for the additional cables are there from the back of the legs to the arms.  For those of you who are building a Wave Kit AFS, these holes are not pre-drilled as they were and are in Nitto Kits, but if you hold these parts, the back of the lower leg armor, the forearms and the feet, to a light source, you will see on the inside of these parts the locations for drilling out for these additional cables.  The reason for the holes not being there is not everyone will want to add the cables and that is OK if that suits your build style, Wave understood this and did not open the holes, but they are there if you look for.  I did not know this and drilled where I could see from drawings.

Great tip on texture ap to replicate armor.  You can also use a Dremel w/a round bit to add casting texture.  For those again who are a 1st time builder, it is not necessary to do this, but the AFS is made up of plate armor.  However, for your 1st suit, I recommend you work on assembly, fit and finish.  Then if you like building them, they are addictive, you can start to apply your personal touches and mods.  Above all, just enjoy and have fun with these easy to build little walking tanks.

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 11:31 AM

I wont beable to participate for a while, the kit I ordered was from an ebay store in china, and they said it should be anywhere from 15 to 30 days to ship it SAL

 

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Posted by havoc on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 12:09 PM

 

Heya, Gunpla,

Count me in for the build! While I'm currently trying to finish painting a Lunadiver I've been working on since November, I'm too far along with that for the GB, so I've started my Wave Snake Eye for the build. Was thinking about given the entire suit a pitted cast texture, the type of which you'd see on a composite hulled Sherman or a similar vehicle.

Also hoping to try to emulate the paint style of the amazing Lincoln Wright --- of course it would take me about a hundred years to successfully do that!!  I am a huge fan of his paint work especially and would love to try some of his techniques...  The textures and layers and colors he achieves are remarkable!

Can anyone point me to a good tutorial on how to post pictures here? I've never posted an image before. :O

Thanks, folks!

Regards and Aloha,

Johnny B.

 

"I love the smell of resin in the morning!!"

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 3:45 PM

Hi will join later.

 

Right now all I can get are the Wave AFS suits(hate those) or the Luna-diver(Hasgawa dropped it there on the lunadiver, 2 small suits/AFS are nice).

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 4:57 PM

smeagol the vile

I wont beable to participate for a while, the kit I ordered was from an ebay store in china, and they said it should be anywhere from 15 to 30 days to ship it SAL

OK, understand about orders from China, have had a few myself, either you have in a week or a month, it will get to you if it makes it through Customs.  It is not waiting for transit from China, but rather for it too clear Customs that is the wait time.  There is plenty of time for your order to get here for you to participate.  I do however have a suggestion, by the time you bid, or buy now and pay the ship from China, I am sure a much better deal could have been had from Starship Modeler.com, faster ship, you will have in 3 days and no Customs to play with, just a thought.  He is a great guy to deal with and is always willing to help.  What I like best, if you have a problem, you get to talk to him on the 1st call!  That is where I found snake chain in stock!  But do keep checking in with your much helpful input.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 5:22 PM

havoc

 

Heya, Gunpla,

Count me in for the build! While I'm currently trying to finish painting a Lunadiver I've been working on since November, I'm too far along with that for the GB, so I've started my Wave Snake Eye for the build. Was thinking about given the entire suit a pitted cast texture, the type of which you'd see on a composite hulled Sherman or a similar vehicle.

Also hoping to try to emulate the paint style of the amazing Lincoln Wright --- of course it would take me about a hundred years to successfully do that!!  I am a huge fan of his paint work especially and would love to try some of his techniques...  The textures and layers and colors he achieves are remarkable!

Can anyone point me to a good tutorial on how to post pictures here? I've never posted an image before. :O

Thanks, folks!

Regards and Aloha,

Johnny B.

 

Hello Johnny B. glad to see another interested builder for the GB.  Hey, great choice of individual to emulate your painting skill after.  I am not sure about his way of doing his art work, but I can say you can achieve some outstanding effects with MIG Filters and pigments, to this you also can apply washes and chipping.  I will be trying some of these out for the 1st time and I guess I will be the Guinea Pig and help as best I can with this new type paint effects.  You know the in thing for painting Ma.K is to do it like Kow did, by hand, that's right, the good ole fashion way w/o OMG, an airbrush.  I will cheat and apply the base color by airbrush, but the rest I will and plain on doing by hand.  Much like the way the military figure fellas paint.  Just now learning about filters which are not the same as a wash.  Maybe one of the master builders, like Cosmic J, can tutor us on this.

As for posting photos, go to Photobucket.com, register and follow their instruction for creating a folder, then go to photo, left click URL address, when you see copy in yellow, right click, then hit paste, return to your thread hit paste and photo is transferred to thread.  Anybody else have any other info to help Johnny B post photos.

Now lets talk about this current build you have been working on, I do want a WIP from the start, but hey we like to see the pretties you are working on now too.  I look forward to you posting and welcome to the loony farm, but the guys here are good fellas and willing to help.

Snake Eye, great kit and subject.  Composite cast armor, oh yea,now you get the idea, take that sucker to the next step outside of the box build.  smeagol had a great suggestion for this, Mr. Surfacer 500 applied by a stiff brush works and you can also use a small piece of sponge locked into a set of tweezers w/the Mr. Surfacer, be careful really builds up fast, but man does it create armor scaling.  Good ole Dremel, set speed to slow w/a ball bit, move quick while you use and keep moving around, great sand cast effect from this method.  Hope this has been of some help, oh I saw the Aloha part, I'm sooo jealous, lets see what I can say about where I an @ ya'll come back, hear!  Looking forward to your work and again would like to see the Lunadiver!Welcome Sign

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 5:37 PM

Mad-Modeler

Hi will join later.

 

Right now all I can get are the Wave AFS suits(hate those) or the Luna-diver(Hasgawa dropped it there on the lunadiver, 2 small suits/AFS are nice).

Thats fine, will watch for you Mad-Modeler, noticed you seem to not like the Wave suits, if I may ask, what you looking for, to build!  eBay has many to choose from and many are the ole Nitto SF3D kits, but come with a high price.  Lets face it, Nitto for the original stuff besides all the cottage resin stuff, Wave, and now Hasegawa, all that is left is too do it the way Kow did, from scratch and I for one would love to see someone do just that, but I also know that the cost of such a project can get steep, but hey a Doll House would be cool, start w/a Tamiya T-62.  Numerous tutorials on the web on how to model this vehicle.

But hey Mad-Modeler, take your time and decide what you want too build.  For everyone reading this, please choose what your skill is @ and let it be something you will not loose interest in and complete.  Too be honest, any scratch build anything is not easy and will demand alot of money and time, but hey again if your up to it, we will welcome the WIP on the Ma.K GB.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Tuesday, August 3, 2010 5:49 PM

OK modelbuilder, I see you lurking in the shadows, you know I am not going to let you get by w/o something in this GB!!!!!!!!!!!!Indifferent

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Posted by Cosmic J on Wednesday, August 4, 2010 9:54 PM

Gunpla Master

OK as suggested by Cosmic J I submit the following as a choice for the Group Build logo.  Let me know what you think:

http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/rickyhensley/GRouP%20BuiLD%20Maschinenkrueger%202010/LOGO-MaK-03.jpg

GRouP. Bld.  2010

 

Badge is okay, a little plain. needs a date, and maybe a picture. What font did you use? I could maybe try to spiff it up this weekend, if you like.

 

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Posted by Cosmic J on Wednesday, August 4, 2010 9:55 PM

Mad-Modeler

Said that the original series kits I build b4 smeag was born were called SF3D. :P

 

That even outdates me. Wink

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Wednesday, August 4, 2010 10:05 PM

Cosmic J

 Gunpla Master:

OK as suggested by Cosmic J I submit the following as a choice for the Group Build logo.  Let me know what you think:

http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad126/rickyhensley/GRouP%20BuiLD%20Maschinenkrueger%202010/LOGO-MaK-03.jpg

GRouP. Bld.  2010

 

 

Badge is okay, a little plain. needs a date, and maybe a picture. What font did you use? I could maybe try to spiff it up this weekend, if you like.

 

By all means do whatever you wish, I will take any help you are willing to offer.  And Cosmic J, thanks for the help.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Wednesday, August 4, 2010 10:12 PM

Cosmic J

 Mad-Modeler:

Said that the original series kits I build b4 smeag was born were called SF3D. :P

 

 

That even outdates me. Wink

Well I hate to admitt, but I was round when they 1st hit the market and I will  admit I am as old as dirt, LOL

 

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Posted by SLW 45 on Wednesday, August 4, 2010 11:38 PM

What is the age of dirt anyway Hmm

                 

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Posted by Cosmic J on Wednesday, August 4, 2010 11:59 PM

Gunpla Master

By all means do whatever you wish, I will take any help you are willing to offer.  And Cosmic J, thanks for the help.

How about this? :

 

 

I can re-size it as necessary.

 

Maybe more of a Tan color for the letters?

 

 

 

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Posted by Cosmic J on Thursday, August 5, 2010 12:00 AM

SLW 45

What is the age of dirt anyway Hmm

 

Dunno. I'm not actually that old.

 

I was around before the letter "Q" was added to the alphabet, though...

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Thursday, August 5, 2010 6:23 AM

Cosmic J

 Gunpla Master:

By all means do whatever you wish, I will take any help you are willing to offer.  And Cosmic J, thanks for the help.

 

How about this? :

 

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh234/CosmicJC/Wonderfesr%20Pics/Wonderfest%20pix/NewCameraPhotos-097-1-1-1.jpg

 

I can re-size it as necessary.

 

Maybe more of a Tan color for the letters?

 

 

 

Awsome, this is just fine,  Really like what you did with it.  Thanks Cosmic J.

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Posted by iafrate on Thursday, August 5, 2010 7:38 AM

I guess i will also be apart of this GB. To start this will be my first ever GB since i started modeling (a long time ago). I'm working on a Wave Fliege that will include some "enhancements". I have a finish date around mid-october so i can hopefully enter it in the local IPMS show that is in October.  I've already started on it, but i haven't gotten to deep into the build yet. 

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Thursday, August 5, 2010 8:03 PM

Photos man, photosSad  And I am glad to see another willing to jump on board.  A Wave Fliege w/enhancements, f/a local IPMS Show, you go boy, but we still want to see it.  Welcome and feel free to add any postings or ideas you might have.  After all the purpose of this GB is to enhance and learn about the building of Ma.K related models.  So again welcome ia frate and I am looking forward to your posting.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Thursday, August 5, 2010 8:12 PM

Just so I got it right is this list correct for those who @ this time are willing to join in this GB of any Ma.K related model:

SLW-45

Mad-Modeler

smeagol

Cosmic-J

havoc

ia-frate

ikar01

Modelbuilder-he just has not responded yet

Oh yea, me Gunpla Master

That is a outstanding start for a call to a GB of any subject, and please anyone regardless of age or time modeling, you are most welcome to join in.  Thanks to all who have supported this little adventure.  GM

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Posted by SLW 45 on Thursday, August 5, 2010 9:41 PM

Good one . Big Smile We are about same then I am guessing

                 

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Posted by havoc on Friday, August 6, 2010 11:50 AM

Yep. I'm an old timer, too, and recall when the original SF3D line came out. I remember being unimpressed by the plain-ish brown boxes, but Al at Gateway Hobbies back in good old NYC said, "No, you gotta check these out --- trust me!" Man was he right! These were truly the first multi-media kits that I had ever seen and unlike any other subjects I had ever seen. Woof!

Regards and Aloha,

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Friday, August 6, 2010 6:43 PM

Just like you havoc, when the series 1st came on the scene, I was heavily into armor/military vehicles and I thought the SF3D was trying to compete, fact vs fiction.  I was not impressed and until very recently did I have any interest @ all.  Now I luv these  things, have spent a fortune collecting kits and keep looking for that one I do not have!!!!!!!  I am impressed by the detail, and @ one time I was a avaid military figure painter and these suit that bill to.  I have not posted a painted face yet, but it will be done ole school w/oils.  And I would fancy a guess to say the average age in this GB is 30-35 and up.  Hope to see some young'ins jump in too.Propeller

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Friday, August 6, 2010 9:47 PM

I think quiet a few of us here within a similar age-group.

 

Also recall a SF3D kit sitting at my LHS and asking about it and staff said that is a new kit from Japan and it rocks. Bought it, build it and loved it, went back to the shop and said I want more of it. Was told to wait   4~ 6-months for next shipment to come in.

Online shopping, etc didn't exist, all we had was e-mail and BBS.

Aaah, the olden days.

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Friday, August 6, 2010 11:32 PM

<~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ is 23

 

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Posted by SLW 45 on Saturday, August 7, 2010 1:23 AM

Sorry to say almost double that Embarrassed

                 

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Posted by Mad-Modeler on Saturday, August 7, 2010 1:39 AM

SLW 45

Sorry to say almost double that Embarrassed

 

Similar here. Tongue Tied  Eyes and hand/eye coordination are not what they used to be.

 

Wanted to head out to look for a Nitto SF3D kit, but realised I need to work on a comissioned Moebius Viper MkII.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Saturday, August 7, 2010 9:14 AM

Well that was enlightening, I am the big double nickle and it all works just fine thank ya.  I can see good and clear as long as I have my glasses on, admit I have a hard time @ 100 yards, the bulls eye gets a bit outta whack!  When I wake up in the AM, I jump right up out of bed and w/a bent posture fumble my way to the lou, finally after a strong cup of joe I am ready for another fun day @ work (7 mores years and I can build 24/7).  I seem to be fine after work until I get home and set down in the recliner, seems after that my body says, I have had enough of hauling your big butt around today and I am going to stay right here!  Eat (hope heart burn stays away), a little modeling time, then off to bed to roll and tumble until blissful sleep and then another sunny dayCool.  To be honest, I am thankful for everyday I get on this side of eternity.  @55 I have all my parts, nothing has ever been cut out, never spent a single night in a Hospital as a patient, when I go for a physical I get a big your fit as a fiddle from the Doc.  I admit I am over weight, but @55 I do the job of a 20 year old!  That keeps me going.  @97 my ole Granny was still planting a garden and canning!  And smeagol, your  a whipper snapper, but U are and will be the Historian of the group, vast knowledge in a young man.  I am pleased we have such a diverse group in this, will be interesting to see the different takes because of the age groups.  Now fellas, we got to get some young people involved, see who you can wring their little necks err I mean encourage to join. LOL  Happy modeling on this bright sunny day and may the bird of paradise not take a dump on your heads!!!!!!!!

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Saturday, August 7, 2010 9:17 AM

PS:  Where are some more WIP, I seem to be the only one postingCrying

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Posted by Cosmic J on Saturday, August 7, 2010 10:18 PM

I first saw the SF3D kits at a local game shop I frequented back in the mid 80's. We were really into Steve Jackson's Games OGRE/GEV and Battlesuit, so I was very keenly interested... unfortunately I was also mostly broke at the time.

Then just about the time I bought my first airbrush, Nitto began re-releasing these kits. It was... Cosmic. Cool

 

Gunpla Master

PS:  Where are some more WIP, I seem to be the only one postingCrying

Sorry, been very busy this week. I'll get something up soon, and a better badge too.

 

 

 

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Posted by Cosmic J on Sunday, August 8, 2010 1:19 AM

Here, how about this:

 

 

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 8, 2010 9:48 AM

Outstanding, now how do we get it to post in our thread like it is doing for you.  And by the way good job and I appreciate all you have done to help.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 8, 2010 10:01 AM

Cosmic J has so graciously helped to design a GB logo for us and it is easy to add,  copy the photo off of his or my post, send to your photo image host, then copy and paste go to your profile and under signature, paste the photo and it will transfer to all postings you have posted.  Neat and please be sure to thank Cosmic J for his help in this. I LIKE THIS! Yes

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 8, 2010 10:12 AM

After you have added your GB logo to your signature and you are ready to post, I am not sure if we keep this thread going with all the posting, or do you post your own WIP thread for the GB.  This is something I am not sure of and you guys that have been longer than me may be of help in this regards.  I know on other Forums, ea. individual starts his own thread for the WIP, but if you wish, then keep posting here.  That is up to you, I just thought it would cut down trying to go thru a single thread w/ever how many post to it ea, day.  Suggestions will be most welcomed.  I am well pleased with all the info, support and work of those who are helping with this.  I have never done this before and I for one am excited to see what you wonderful bunch of Geeks do w/this this, oh you going to luv this, one of my grands came into my study and saw the AFS and said oh look paw paw plays with little spacemen!Clown

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 8, 2010 10:14 AM

Cosmic J

I first saw the SF3D kits at a local game shop I frequented back in the mid 80's. We were really into Steve Jackson's Games OGRE/GEV and Battlesuit, so I was very keenly interested... unfortunately I was also mostly broke at the time.

Then just about the time I bought my first airbrush, Nitto began re-releasing these kits. It was... Cosmic. Cool

 

 Gunpla Master:

PS:  Where are some more WIP, I seem to be the only one postingCrying

 

Sorry, been very busy this week. I'll get something up soon, and a better badge too.

 

 

 

Badge is just fine like it is.Toast

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 8, 2010 4:12 PM

Hope today has been a day of rest for everyone.  I thought I would post where I am @ as of 5:00 today.  All PE joints have been coated w/vallejo matt varnish.  This will seal the poly plastic and allow paint to stick w/o peeling off, @ least that's the idea!  Next the complete suit has been wiped down w/ Mr. Hobby thinner to clean any oils from my hands from handling, helps to adhere Mr. Surfacer Primer 1200 prepping the plastic this way.  Also notice I have added the attachment points f/the hydraulic cables.  These are really turned alum. collars for use on Gundams, but they look cool used like this as well.  I cut the windshield/screen what ever you wish to call it, down to allow it to be still seen 3/4's of the way open.  I want to display the face shield up but the individual caught ready to fight.  I feel that if given this type suit, one would have the face shield down for battle, the rest of the time, open for the fresh air.  I imagine it gets a bit stuffy inside this tin can, we sure did in tanks and kept the hatches open as much as we could!  I have drilled and added a brass rod to the right bottom of the foot to mount the AFS to a block of wood to help hold while I paint.  Well that's about it and after posting this, I will go outside and spray prime this little bad boy down.Cool

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, August 8, 2010 4:42 PM

PRIMEDBig Smile

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Posted by Klik on Monday, August 9, 2010 9:36 AM

Geez, I go on vacation, and you guys go and start a groupbuild! Is it too late to join in? I would love to post some pics of my Lunadiver and its S.A.F.S. suits, which currently sit at about 80% finished.

G.M., your suit looks awesome, keep up, as always, the great work.

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Posted by Ti4019 on Monday, August 9, 2010 12:02 PM

I would like to get in with my SAFS with "night mods"

If you aren't having fun, you're doing it wrong! Build to please yourself and they will flame you every time!

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Monday, August 9, 2010 5:22 PM

Hello Klik and Ti4019, glad to hear from both of you and welcome you to the Ma.K GB.  I do believe I am going to switch this thread over to the Group Builds of the FSM's Forum.  So if that is cool with everyone, we will now meet on the Group Builds under the same heading Maschinenkrueger Group Build.  I again encourage everyone to add the wonderful logo that Cosmic J has worked to bring us to your signature on your profile.  After all, since he took the time to design and put into place, why not use it.  I for one am thankful for his help and hope ea. who use, will tell him so.  Now, we have talked a bunch and discussed many things so far, but this month is running and day light is burning, so lets get to snipping plastic and smearing glue.  Just remember to post your threads on Group Builds.  Good building too all.  The rabbit has left the gate!!!!!!!!!!Hmm

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Monday, August 9, 2010 5:45 PM

just got my package with the figure, got here from shanghi faster then a package I ordered the same day from Kansas.  Its a gogeous figure im gona order from them again, they have a 1/16th and 1/12th AFS and im gona get one.

 

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Monday, August 9, 2010 5:56 PM

That is great news smeagol, makes you wonder about our Postal System some times.  I too have had a package get to me faster from Japan than one coming form Washington State?  Go figure.  But anyway, glad you got her and yea, I want the 1/16th suit too!  Please post your start on the Group Builds Section of FSM's Forum.  I have already made the 1st post and everything is ready for all to start posting their WIP.  I can not wait to see what you do with this figure.  For those who read this and have not done a 1/20th figure, it is harder than one thinks to get right, but after seeing smeagol's work, I know he is going to do her justice.  This thread can still be used if you want to keep posting completed subjects, but please for all future post of a WIP go to FSM's Group Builds as listed in the Forum guide.  Thanks for sharing your good news smeagol, now stop drooling all over her and lets see some photos of her!Cool

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Monday, August 9, 2010 6:03 PM

im gona have to do ALOT of work with skin colors, its really difficult.

 

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Monday, August 9, 2010 6:16 PM

Thats a Roger, that is what I was talking about, it is hard to convey human skin tones, we tend to think in a single tonal sight, but skin is very difficult to realistically capture,  And then we get to the eyes, the windows to the soul can be a daunting task!  I painted Military Figures for years and never did feel that I had conquered the ability to paint a human face the way I wanted.  I for one am looking forward to this WIP smeagol.

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Posted by ponch on Monday, August 9, 2010 10:07 PM

Howdy,

 

Hopefully it's not too late to join the GB?  Somewhere in my stash I have the old Nitto PKA H0 asking to be built Stick out tongue

 

 

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:11 AM

ponch

Howdy,

 

Hopefully it's not too late to join the GB?  Somewhere in my stash I have the old Nitto PKA H0 asking to be built Stick out tongue

Sure, I posted on the Group Build section yesterday for the start of the build, but so far no-one other than my 1st reply to start has been posted.  By all means do, post a photo of the subject you are going to build and give a little back ground.  All others please do the same who wanted to do this please!

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Posted by Ti4019 on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 6:56 AM

try using Reaper gaming paints for skin tones, its all I use anymore and I paint full nudes sometimes. Very thin layers not slopped on the way enamels are gobbed on is the key. Ill have up to 30 layers on a  figure when Im done but they are micro thin.

Ill add the GB logo after I complete and submit. I have never believed in displaying something I had yet to earn.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 3:30 PM

OK guys, we got to get off this thread and onto the Ma.K GB, you will as already has been explained go the FSM's Group Build Forum.  Any and all are welcome. there is no deadline except that the GB will end 1-8-11, so you have until then to post up to.  As far as the Logo, it is up to you if you wish to use, I will say however it is not intended as something you must earn, by using it, it was intended to ID you as being apart of the Ma.K GB, but what ever you wish if at the 1st or the last after you have completed your build, that is fine.  Just please, stop posting here and use the thread I have already set up for this.  Thanks and I hope to see you all soon on the other channel!  What I would like for ea. to do since you are posting a WIP, post a photo of the kit box photo to give everyone a idea of just what you are thinking about building and if started, post a photo of where you are @.  This will help to get things rolling.Hmm

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Posted by Cosmic J on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:17 PM

My kit for our little GB will be the Nitto re-issue of the Raccoon, in 1/20 scale. It's the recon armor for the Mercenary forces in the M.aK. universe, covered w/ special sensors, and having certain stealth modifications. The gun arm was also removed, making this a two handed SAFS variant.

Back when Nitto re-popped the MaKs, I bought and built every one them. Most of them came w/ visible pilot figures, and the juxtaposition of Man and Machine appealed to me, therefore I built most of them w/ the pilot showing.

However, the figures in the Nitto kits were... somewhat lacking. Detail was soft, they had molding issues, and sometimes they were barely recognisable as human. It took a lot of work to get them to look good.

So, I decided that I wanted to build an SAFS without the pilot showing. Since I was going to make it a pure Mech build, I bought the most non-human looking SAFS of them all - The Raccoon.

However, the high quality of the other Nitto releases had made me a bit of a snob. When I opened my new Raccoon, I found the kit parts to be covered w/ flash and sink marks. GASP!

Thusly disappointed, I tossed my Raccoon into the closet to be used for spares.

In fact, a few years later when building a Jerry, I used the upper sensor array from my Raccoon to detail it. in those heady days when MaKs were everywhere and only cost $11 (yes, you read that right) I scavenged a bunch of my kits, including most of a SAFS Fireball for that same Jerry model.

However, times have changed, and I realise that I was probably too hard on this little model (not to mention the fact that the cost of these kits has at least tripled), so I decided to give it another go.

Now, Nitto produced a number of the SAFS kits, including the Prowler - a Fireball variant covered w/ additional sensors. A little know fact, the Prowler kit contained all the sprues from all the various SAFS kits, including the Racoon's upper sensor housing. So, I'll be scrounging the parts from my Prowler kit, and possibly making use of the leftover parts from my Fireball kit as well.

Some of these kits also came w/ short lengths of corrugated vinyl tubing that was used to cover up the connecting parts inside the limbs. I actually prefer this covering to the current vogue of using putty to re-sculpt the joints. Fortunately, one of my kits came w/ a spare set of these little bits of tubing, so I'll use those on my model.

...and that's about as far as I've progressed. Cool

 

 

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Posted by modelbuilder on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:26 PM

Ok guys I keep hearing of this build so thaught I would throw in for it. Trying to find a Gustav, a Firefly, or a Jerry/Super Jerry. Also might have a little surprise down the road. I like to lurk out here in the shadows the strike when least expected.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:14 PM

Cosmic J

Again, hurried. More pics w/ no captions:

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh234/CosmicJC/mechpictures019.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh234/CosmicJC/mechpictures021.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh234/CosmicJC/mechpictures023-1.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh234/CosmicJC/Wonderfesr%20Pics/Wonderfest%20pix/SANY0481-1.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh234/CosmicJC/mechpictures025.jpg

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh234/CosmicJC/mechpictures026.jpg

  Outstanding Cosmic J, I am not sure which one of these super great kits you will post as a WIP, but can you do me a favor, I have moved this Ma.K GB to this location:  Go to Forum & Community, after that you will see the thread labeled Group Builds under the headings of the subjects of the Forum, click Group Builds and you will find the place I have started the WIP GB f/Ma.K.  I thought I was doing the right thing by officially starting this there, but I seemed to have caused some confusion for everyone.  I believe this is what and where a GB is to be conducted, but if I am wrong, please inform me and we can do this where ever you say??????? HELP

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:16 PM

Can anyone please explain how to link this to the other thread I have started in Group Builds, or can you help me do this FSM.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 6:38 PM

Gunpla Master

Can anyone please explain how to link this to the other thread I have started in Group Builds, or can you help me do this FSM.

Problem solved, if you are posting a WIP w/the Ma.K Group Build, then proceed to the other thread and do so there.  I will not ask anymore!Geeked

Ma.K GB is located in the Group Builds of FSM Forum.  Is not difficult to find.  Thanks.

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Posted by Cosmic J on Thursday, August 12, 2010 2:42 AM

Gunpla Master

  Outstanding Cosmic J, I am not sure which one of these super great kits you will post as a WIP, but can you do me a favor, I have moved this Ma.K GB to this location:  Go to Forum & Community, after that you will see the thread labeled Group Builds under the headings of the subjects of the Forum, click Group Builds and you will find the place I have started the WIP GB f/Ma.K.  I thought I was doing the right thing by officially starting this there, but I seemed to have caused some confusion for everyone.  I believe this is what and where a GB is to be conducted, but if I am wrong, please inform me and we can do this where ever you say??????? HELP

Normally when I do a GB, I post both in the GB and the relevant section. For example, my Hell Hound Hovertruck was done as an IDF "What If" type vehicle, so I posted in both the GB section and here.

I find that doing so increases exposure for interested folks, because not everyone looks at all the forums on the boards - I look here in SF, in Figures, Dios and sometimes Armor. I only go into Autos, Helicopters or Real Space when I'm actually building one of those kits (which means rarely).

So don't worry, no harm, no foul. Cool

 

 

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:28 PM

Thanks for the advice Cosmic J, sounds good to me, so we can use both of the threads.  So if you want to post that completed or whatever, please do so.  I was wondering, so Yous Guys, did I say that right for a Dixie Boy, anyhow, is it me or does it seem like the prices for Nitto Ma.K kits are just getting ridiculously high in price?  I have noticed in the last few weeks a steady increase in what people think they can get for Ma.K (Nitto) and have seen some trying to do it w/Wave??????  Here is what I am talking about, an individual had a Nitto (X3 of them) kits w/a $4.99 start bid, but the ship charge was $40.00??????  I PM'd and asked why do it this way, was told to mind my business!  Now guys, please understand, I am all for a person getting his price f/a kit, but when you do it underhanded,  I hope that little lite goes off: RIP OFF!  I have mailed/UPS cartons, weighing lb.s that was less than $40.00.  My advice to this when you see it, buyer beware.  And for some reason, Ma.K kits seem to be easy pray for this.  Watch out what you buy!  But also there are many good deals to be had if you just look, and fellas, the best thing to do, is get a good understanding of kit values, I for one will not pay $300.00 f/any Ma.K kit, regardless of who, what and where.  But that's just my 2 cents worth.

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Posted by ponch on Friday, August 13, 2010 4:36 PM

Yeah, I've noticed that the prices for the old Nitto and Wave kits online have gone up quite a bit, starting when the new releases from Hasegawa and Wave started hitting the shelfs.

I guess people are trying to cash in on the new MaK fever Smile

 

 

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Posted by SLW 45 on Friday, August 13, 2010 11:11 PM

Man I got to tell you your work is great and I would like to see more  Cool

                 

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Posted by modelbuilder on Sunday, August 15, 2010 10:09 AM

Just a side note to this. I was looking through some old Finescales from the 80s last night. I saw some adds for the original Nitto SF3D kits. Did not see anything priced over $25.00. Now some of these are going for hundreds. These collectors must be crazy. These are plastic model kits and are meant to be built but us normal builders dont have the funds for the outragiously priced kits

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Sunday, August 15, 2010 1:42 PM

Yea but thats the problem.  If you find a store that has them in the USA your going to have to pay a high price for the rarity, if you go on ebay or something... well, good luyck to you

 

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Posted by Klik on Sunday, August 15, 2010 6:00 PM

Hey guys, I got some pics posted up in the Groupbuilds forum, so if you want to see them, they're there.

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Posted by Cosmic J on Monday, August 16, 2010 2:09 AM

ponch

Yeah, I've noticed that the prices for the old Nitto and Wave kits online have gone up quite a bit, starting when the new releases from Hasegawa and Wave started hitting the shelfs.

I guess people are trying to cash in on the new MaK fever Smile

Yeah, there's definitely some of that going on. I myself almost sold my Prowler kit when I saw it  going for around $80 on E-bay. I mean, it might be foolish of me NOT to sell it, but heck w/ it. I wanna build it.

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Posted by Cosmic J on Monday, August 16, 2010 2:12 AM

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Just a side note to this. I was looking through some old Finescales from the 80s last night. I saw some adds for the original Nitto SF3D kits. Did not see anything priced over $25.00. Now some of these are going for hundreds. These collectors must be crazy. These are plastic model kits and are meant to be built but us normal builders dont have the funds for the outragiously priced kits

Well, on the plus side, the new releases are nice and affordable. At the very least, they're the old Nitto kits re-boxed. At best, they're all new parts cast from new molds, of previously unseen subjects. It's a good time to be into MaK. Big Smile

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:20 PM

I agree w/Cosmic J, if you are into Ma.K, now is a great time to model them w/Waves re-do of the Nitto kits.  I also have noticed more and more places are carrying and selling, that is good.  I again highly recommend you get a firm understanding of what is rare and what is not before you agree to buy that kit off of eBay.  I will use the following as a guide:  As of now, Wave has not kitted the Neuspotter, now the rumor has it that part of this kits molds were destroyed in a fire.  Now I have heard thru the rumor mill, Wave may re-tool to re-pop this kit, I for one hope they do.  But for the time being, you will from time to time find a Nitto kit listed on eBay.  Now what is a good price to pay, hint: the cheapest you can get away with.  Unless you need to complete a collection, or you just gotta have now, please do not fall for the ridiculous prices you see people trying to get.  I would not give more than $55.00 f/a Neuspotter and I would ask for the guy to pick up the ship to boot!  There is now listed a MK I AFS f/$125.00 + ship, please explain why a person would pay that when you can get a new up-to-date version from Wave for $30.00Hmm  Again, please if you are looking to purchase, stay with the Wave kits, get accustomed to the building and finishing and then if the Ma.K time line suits your fancy, buy that dream kit and enjoy, but get a good deal and not ripped off!  Just my2 cents

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Posted by havoc on Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:15 AM

Funny, I've got a Neuspotter that I've been itchin' ta build and I really don't care how "rare" it is... I just want ta build it! That being said, I'm considering putting it up for trade because I've always wanted a Fledermaus (and who doesn't want a Takako Lopez figure?)! My meandering point is: for me they're more fun to build rather than collect and sit on, but to each their own...

In other news, I've updated my Lunadiver build with better progress pix and have posted some WIP shots of the Snake Eye. Man, that thing goes together like a dream --- the only pain is cleaning up the seams, which is a chore I can't stand! Wave REALLY finessed the engineering on the original kits!

Regards and Aloha,

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Friday, August 20, 2010 3:04 PM

I agree havoc, build them, collecting is what drives the prices thru the roof, don't think so, look up a NIB Pocher wrapped and see what you will lay out because it still has a wrapper, now to a builder that would not matter, but to a collector, well that is the frosting on the cake.  With all that said, I thought, hey lets see your build stash of Ma.K if you have.  This is where you get to show off if you want too!!!!!  Now fellas, I am old enough to indulge in my hobby, and I do not have by far a big collection of these kits, but if you feel I could open a Hobby Shop, well I understand.Whistling

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Posted by Klik on Friday, August 20, 2010 4:16 PM

Hey! I have built those bottom two, so if you need any tips, comments, etc., I am more than happy to help you out GM.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Friday, August 20, 2010 6:27 PM

Thanks for the offer and I probably will take you up on that along w/everyone else who has built these.  The plain is every kit you see will be built @ some point.

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Posted by Kugai on Friday, August 20, 2010 6:40 PM

I agree with you guys on the "collecting vs. building" issue.  While my stash has gotten big enough to look like I might be in the "collecting" category, I have plans ( some simple, some grandiose ) for almost every one of the kits I have, even if it's to serve as a "just in case i goof and need spare parts" backup.  The exceptions are those that came in a lot on auction that included something else I wanted.

For example: no, I don't like the Macross 7 VF-11 MAXL at allDead, but the 5 regular VF-11Cs that came in the lot with 3 of them were worth the $20 on their own and I figure I'll eventually find use for those pink-and-white monstrosities even if it's as background wreckage in some as-yet- unplanned diorama.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Thursday, August 26, 2010 5:10 PM

Added another kit to the build stash, a 3Q WAVE KAUZ.  Neat kit with all the goodies we have come to expect from WAVE/  That now brings the total of kits to 22 in the Ma.K time line I have amassed.  There are still others I will watch for and add as time and hobby funds allow.  For one, I am most looking forward to that 1/35th Nutrocker coming down the pike from Hasegawa.

Surprise  GM

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Monday, August 30, 2010 7:29 PM

Just got off of eBay, man I am just bummed out by all the Censored some of these guys are feeding you about the kits and the amount too ship.  Not every kit made is rare, not since Wave started repopping them, A SAFS is not rare. why would I pay over $70.00 f/one when I can order one from here in the good ole USA and w/ship get for less than $40.00.  Oh no, I am stupid and will pay double because the seller says it is rare and collectible, jeez give me a break.  This is the part of Ma.K that sucks!   There is places here in the US you can get them when in stock, and please beware of re-cast resin junk from a well known location as listed on eBay, you will get a lump of resin junk, buyer beware!!!!!!!!!  Just wanted to vent after looking @ the listing.  One seller has 9 kits, now some are a bit hard to find, but the majority are not, re-pops, he wants $300.00 + ship, the day I have too start buying them like this, I will stop buying Ma.K kits!!!!!!!!!!  Just my 2 cents worth.

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Posted by Cosmic J on Tuesday, August 31, 2010 3:43 PM

Well, I think that's just part of the Evil-bay experience, not necessarily exclusionary to MaKs. I've been trying to get my hands on the fighters from the anime "Crusher Joe" for years now - when I do find them on the Bay, they run about $70 for a 1/100 scale kit. Then of course, there are the Chinese recasters...

You know how it is, Free Market Capitalism in all it's glory. If someone deliberately overprices something, we are free to buy it - or not. If someone overpays, that's their own fault - Caveat Emptor. I imagine some folks overpay just so they can brag about how much they spent. As downsides go, that's really not so bad.

On the plus side, I was in there last month and someone had started the bidding on his Nitto MaKs at $1 each. Cool

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Wednesday, September 8, 2010 6:26 PM

Thought I would also post on this thread as well, it is OK for more than one person to be building the same kit for the GB.  I fully understand you may only be able to get what you can where you can and I do not want to limit a person based on how many of the same kits are being built.  So with all said, build as you please along as it is a Ma.K.

CoolGM  has spoke!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Wednesday, September 8, 2010 6:33 PM

Oh and while I am @ it, I will vent again.  What is up w/eBay sellers, holidays and items that end on that period.  I have had three kits delayed, one is 2 States away, not shipped until today, because of Labor Day??????????? Bang Head Come on dudes, did I want until today to pay, and hey, how about a heads up if you are going to take 5 days off before you will shipHmm.  Just poor business and for some reason here lately seems to be the norm!!!!!!!!!!!!!Angry

I am really getiing a bad taste in my mouth w/dealing w/eBayClown

Just my2 cents worth.   

GM has spoken, again, Elvis has left the house!Propeller

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Tuesday, September 14, 2010 7:24 PM

Well the post above rants about eBay sellers and this one lets you know there are some super rare kits up for grabs on eBay right now.  ie:  Dollhouse 1/20 resin kit, exspect this one to go high, very high.  But if you have the bucks, then there are some nice kits available, to include the impossible to find Kings Krote.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Tuesday, September 21, 2010 9:17 PM

Well again I have a Love/Hate relationship w/eBay.  I love to find that rare kit @ a fair price, but hate the games one must play w/sellers.  But today I won on both counts, a super rare, hard to get and much wanted Konigs Krote and a Nixie w/free ship.  made the fella a offer for the two and him picking up the EMS and he took it.  Now I have bought from this guy before, and he is a class act and fast to ship.  Will post some pic's when I get'em.  Now this are cottage industry resin Drunk Dog and Winter Fest kits.  Not your garden variety plastic kits.  Looking forward to these!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its ok, those tears will dry up.Clown  I know you wanted one too.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Wednesday, September 22, 2010 7:14 PM

Fella e-mailed me today, hope to have the kits in a couple a weeks.Cool

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Posted by havoc on Monday, September 27, 2010 12:55 AM

Nice goin', Gunpla! Man, the Koenig's Krote is truly a Holy Grail kit --- a real beast!!  Ya gotta let us know what that KK looks like in the box. Now, what a Nixie is, I could not say (maybe an AFS with Richard Nixon's face...?), so you'll have ta clue me in on that one. 

Glad ta hear you scored, amigo. Next, the Dollhouse!

The Nutrocker looks great, by the way --- I get why you didn't weather it...even if it kills me! Nice work, dude!

Starting the new gig F/T tomorrow, but I WILL get some new --- if not boring --- pictures of my 35th scale Prowler up in the next couple of days...apologies for the delay as life keeps getting in the way of the hobby... What's up with THAT?

Take care, Folks.

Regards and Aloha,

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Posted by ikar01 on Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:29 PM

I just posted my project on the group build.  How do I get the group build emblem downloaded and attached?

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Friday, October 29, 2010 11:33 PM

ikar01

I just posted my project on the group build.  How do I get the group build emblem downloaded and attached?

Copy the emblem to your Pictures on your computer,  paste and transfer to your Profile.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Friday, October 29, 2010 11:49 PM

Some facts I found interesting about the interest in Ma.K here on FSM!  Since starting the thread  Sci-Fi of this Forum and then the Ma.K GB, the subject combined from a period of July-Oct, 3 months, has had 5525 hits, 292 replies totaling 20 pagesSurprise

Looks to me, there is a very interested group of Ma.K's builders here.

Just a bit of triva.

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Posted by ikar01 on Saturday, October 30, 2010 2:59 PM

Thanks.  After some trial and error, mostly error and a few words, it worked.  

I'm thinking of doing the fledermaus in a combination cammoflage/annevisary scheme.  It will give me a break from my NX-01 project.

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Sunday, October 31, 2010 10:00 PM

ikar01

Thanks.  After some trial and error, mostly error and a few words, it worked.  

I'm thinking of doing the fledermaus in a combination cammoflage/annevisary scheme.  It will give me a break from my NX-01 project.

Glad you got the emblem on your post now, can be a pain to get it to take!  About that Fledermaus, no one is @ this time building in the GB one of these, and I for one think you would be just the man for the job.  Will be watching for it.  Cammo/anniversary scheme, sounds interesting to say the least.

the Gunp  Propeller

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Tuesday, November 2, 2010 6:41 PM

December is coming and with it the new Nutcracker, I am so looking forward to this one.

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Posted by ikar01 on Tuesday, November 2, 2010 7:11 PM

Is it any different than the old one?

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Posted by Gunpla Master on Tuesday, November 2, 2010 9:02 PM

From what I have been able to tell, heck yea.  Goobs of detail, is a better scale in 1/35th allowing for more use of detail parts like those wonderful hollow exhaust pipes from Russia.  You get 2 AFS figures, a Mel and a Gustav.  That mean you do not have to spend blood finding a Mad Dog copy of the Gustav suit.

Kits I am aware of:  Nitto 1/76 plastic version, can find, but starting to get up there in $.  Good detail, about the size of 1/35 Armor.

1/20 Vac Hull w/resin turret.  Not too sure, believe Rainbow Egg, or maybe from a fella on MK Forum.  BIG, great detail and hock the kid to get a copy!

WF version I think, again, another one for the collector.

And now, the Hasegawa version as I mentioned above.  If you are into Ma.K, this will be a must, or if you set back too long and wait for a price drop!  They will all be gone and you will pay w/blood to get a copy from some guy hording them in a far away country???????

I pre-ordered mine from a model supplier in Japan and saved about $40.00 from what the kit will retail for, which I believe will be over $100.00.  Steep, yes, but have seen pic's of the parts and the kit is the top of the food chain.

So, as stated before, I for one am excited to see this come along and wish they would @ some later date pop a Oskar tooBow Down

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