Maschinenkrueger Group Build

I dont think you have seen them so I figgured I would show you what I have done with ma.k kits in the past

Said that the original series kits I build b4 smeag was born were called SF3D. :P

smeagol that's why I wanted you to be apart of this, you have a great deal of experience to bring to the table.  Thanks for sharing your work, by the way, you still have not said what kit you nabbed from eBay?

Mad-Modeler, you are correct sir.  Before the Time Line we are referring to as Ma.K or Machinenkrueger, it was referred to as SF3D as designed by Kow.  I am sure others can go into the History far better than I can.  You will also see Ma.K referred to as Zbv3000, but regardless of the nomenclature, it all means the same.

http://www.starshipmodeler.biz/shop/index.cfm/product/1252_165/120-mercenaries-woman-maintenance-worker-b.cfm

That is the kit, its why I linked the image

Man you realy make them look real

And i good with logo with date or without

Gunpla Master

Gunpla Master:

OK as suggested by Cosmic J I submit the following as a choice for the Group Build logo.  Let me know what you think:

GRouP. Bld.  9-2011

 

GRouP. Bld. 2011

Is this what you are talking about smeagol.  Please feel free to modify as you see fit.  Thanks for the input to.

Well to keep things moving w/a build or WIP, today's objective was met, I wanted to apply the rough texture of armor plating to selected areas, final selection of the pose and temp ap of power cables.  One of the things that make a die hard Ma.K builder cringe, is to add to what comes in the kit, but I believe you can always improve any kit.  When these kits 1st hit the market, they were your 1st to be  multi-media kits.  The were made up of the plastic parts, wire, spring f/power cables, some came w/screen, decals and a paint card, of which I might add are very nice and a collection unto themselves.  Now that Wave is re-dong them, some do not come w/the springs but that part is made up from poly plastic.  Now poly is fine for making a joint to move, but I am not a big fan of poly parts of the model.  I for one hate to paint the stuff!  And that is just what the main power cables for the leg to torso is made of  smeagol turned me onto snake chain in another thread, and I found this @ Starship Modeler made by mecha skunk.  Large power cables are 1.9mm size, the power cable for the laser is 1.2mm, of which I will paint red, why you ask?  I noticed that many builds of AFS's had a red cable attached to it @ laser, I asked a good friend on another site why red, his response was, "red makes'em dead", well sir that is good enough for me.  Now do not get me wrong, there is no set in stone decree that says paint this cable red, but I do like the added color and the fact it denotes something of danger and or loss of life!!!!!  I applied the armor texture w/Mr. Surfacer 500 stippled on w/a stiff #4 wide brush w/the bristles cut down to about 1/2 the size of the tip.  Worked great for a armored cast look.  This stuff is good for filling small voids/cracks too.  If your local HS has, do yourself a favor and pick some up. 

smeagol the vile

http://www.starshipmodeler.biz/shop/index.cfm/product/1252_165/120-mercenaries-woman-maintenance-worker-b.cfm

That is the kit, its why I linked the image

Ok first you copied me straight out of the box with those snake chains, though I get them right from Mecha skunk. 

I suggest using the box art and replicating every cable you see there its what I did, if you need to make holes do it.

as far as the texturing what I did, if your interested, was I put some squadron white putty in a dish, filled the dish with thinner and put the thinner on in thin sheets.  Once it dried I sanded it ALMOST smooth and it left quite a nice texturing.  Dont leave harsh bumps and ridges that wont look realistic you dont want it to stand out, you just want it to be something in the background, the kind of thing that makes a kit great

Thanks for your help smeagol, and yes you mentioned them in another thread and I wanted to know what snake chain was and when I saw it, thought I would give a try.  So my hat off to you for your wonderful suggestion of which I am well pleased with how they look on the suit.

You have too look close, very hard to see,  the holes for the additional cables are there from the back of the legs to the arms.  For those of you who are building a Wave Kit AFS, these holes are not pre-drilled as they were and are in Nitto Kits, but if you hold these parts, the back of the lower leg armor, the forearms and the feet, to a light source, you will see on the inside of these parts the locations for drilling out for these additional cables.  The reason for the holes not being there is not everyone will want to add the cables and that is OK if that suits your build style, Wave understood this and did not open the holes, but they are there if you look for.  I did not know this and drilled where I could see from drawings.

Great tip on texture ap to replicate armor.  You can also use a Dremel w/a round bit to add casting texture.  For those again who are a 1st time builder, it is not necessary to do this, but the AFS is made up of plate armor.  However, for your 1st suit, I recommend you work on assembly, fit and finish.  Then if you like building them, they are addictive, you can start to apply your personal touches and mods.  Above all, just enjoy and have fun with these easy to build little walking tanks.

I wont beable to participate for a while, the kit I ordered was from an ebay store in china, and they said it should be anywhere from 15 to 30 days to ship it SAL

Hi will join later.

Right now all I can get are the Wave AFS suits(hate those) or the Luna-diver(Hasgawa dropped it there on the lunadiver, 2 small suits/AFS are nice).

smeagol the vile

I wont beable to participate for a while, the kit I ordered was from an ebay store in china, and they said it should be anywhere from 15 to 30 days to ship it SAL

havoc

 

Heya, Gunpla,

Count me in for the build! While I'm currently trying to finish painting a Lunadiver I've been working on since November, I'm too far along with that for the GB, so I've started my Wave Snake Eye for the build. Was thinking about given the entire suit a pitted cast texture, the type of which you'd see on a composite hulled Sherman or a similar vehicle.

Also hoping to try to emulate the paint style of the amazing Lincoln Wright --- of course it would take me about a hundred years to successfully do that!!  I am a huge fan of his paint work especially and would love to try some of his techniques...  The textures and layers and colors he achieves are remarkable!

Can anyone point me to a good tutorial on how to post pictures here? I've never posted an image before. :O

Thanks, folks!

Regards and Aloha,

Johnny B.

 

As for posting photos, go to Photobucket.com, register and follow their instruction for creating a folder, then go to photo, left click URL address, when you see copy in yellow, right click, then hit paste, return to your thread hit paste and photo is transferred to thread.  Anybody else have any other info to help Johnny B post photos.

Now lets talk about this current build you have been working on, I do want a WIP from the start, but hey we like to see the pretties you are working on now too.  I look forward to you posting and welcome to the loony farm, but the guys here are good fellas and willing to help.

Snake Eye, great kit and subject.  Composite cast armor, oh yea,now you get the idea, take that sucker to the next step outside of the box build.  smeagol had a great suggestion for this, Mr. Surfacer 500 applied by a stiff brush works and you can also use a small piece of sponge locked into a set of tweezers w/the Mr. Surfacer, be careful really builds up fast, but man does it create armor scaling.  Good ole Dremel, set speed to slow w/a ball bit, move quick while you use and keep moving around, great sand cast effect from this method.  Hope this has been of some help, oh I saw the Aloha part, I'm sooo jealous, lets see what I can say about where I an @ ya'll come back, hear!  Looking forward to your work and again would like to see the Lunadiver!

Mad-Modeler

Hi will join later.

 

Right now all I can get are the Wave AFS suits(hate those) or the Luna-diver(Hasgawa dropped it there on the lunadiver, 2 small suits/AFS are nice).

But hey Mad-Modeler, take your time and decide what you want too build.  For everyone reading this, please choose what your skill is @ and let it be something you will not loose interest in and complete.  Too be honest, any scratch build anything is not easy and will demand alot of money and time, but hey again if your up to it, we will welcome the WIP on the Ma.K GB.

OK modelbuilder, I see you lurking in the shadows, you know I am not going to let you get by w/o something in this GB!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gunpla Master

OK as suggested by Cosmic J I submit the following as a choice for the Group Build logo.  Let me know what you think:

GRouP. Bld.  2010

Badge is okay, a little plain. needs a date, and maybe a picture. What font did you use? I could maybe try to spiff it up this weekend, if you like.

Mad-Modeler

Said that the original series kits I build b4 smeag was born were called SF3D. :P

That even outdates me.

Cosmic J

Gunpla Master:

OK as suggested by Cosmic J I submit the following as a choice for the Group Build logo.  Let me know what you think:

GRouP. Bld.  2010

 

 

Badge is okay, a little plain. needs a date, and maybe a picture. What font did you use? I could maybe try to spiff it up this weekend, if you like.

 

Cosmic J

Mad-Modeler:

Said that the original series kits I build b4 smeag was born were called SF3D. :P

 

 

That even outdates me.

l

What is the age of dirt anyway

Gunpla Master

By all means do whatever you wish, I will take any help you are willing to offer.  And Cosmic J, thanks for the help.

How about this? :

I can re-size it as necessary.

Maybe more of a Tan color for the letters?

SLW 45

What is the age of dirt anyway

Dunno. I'm not actually that old.

I was around before the letter "Q" was added to the alphabet, though...

Cosmic J

Gunpla Master:

By all means do whatever you wish, I will take any help you are willing to offer.  And Cosmic J, thanks for the help.

 

How about this? :

 

 

I can re-size it as necessary.

 

Maybe more of a Tan color for the letters?

 

 

 

Dirt defined: Earth or dust, from the dust of the Earth.

I guess i will also be apart of this GB. To start this will be my first ever GB since i started modeling (a long time ago). I'm working on a Wave Fliege that will include some "enhancements". I have a finish date around mid-october so i can hopefully enter it in the local IPMS show that is in October.  I've already started on it, but i haven't gotten to deep into the build yet. 

Photos man, photos  And I am glad to see another willing to jump on board.  A Wave Fliege w/enhancements, f/a local IPMS Show, you go boy, but we still want to see it.  Welcome and feel free to add any postings or ideas you might have.  After all the purpose of this GB is to enhance and learn about the building of Ma.K related models.  So again welcome ia frate and I am looking forward to your posting.

Just so I got it right is this list correct for those who @ this time are willing to join in this GB of any Ma.K related model:

SLW-45

Mad-Modeler

smeagol

Cosmic-J

havoc

ia-frate

ikar01

Modelbuilder-he just has not responded yet

Oh yea, me Gunpla Master

That is a outstanding start for a call to a GB of any subject, and please anyone regardless of age or time modeling, you are most welcome to join in.  Thanks to all who have supported this little adventure.  GM

Good one . We are about same then I am guessing

Yep. I'm an old timer, too, and recall when the original SF3D line came out. I remember being unimpressed by the plain-ish brown boxes, but Al at Gateway Hobbies back in good old NYC said, "No, you gotta check these out --- trust me!" Man was he right! These were truly the first multi-media kits that I had ever seen and unlike any other subjects I had ever seen. Woof!

Regards and Aloha,

Johnny B.