Baton Rouge class update.

Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 9:23 PM

I mentioned Constellation. Forgot Defiant, but that was just the Enterprise model with some green fuzz. We both forgot Exeter, but that was Enterprise too. Anyway, all had identical pennants.

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Mikeym_us

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From: Kincheloe Michigan

Posted by Mikeym_us on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 3:53 AM

Masao you forgot about the defiant and also the battle damaged studio model of a first pilot Enterprise used to represent the Constellation.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15 http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Woody

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Posted by Woody on Tuesday, April 19, 2005 11:14 PM

A quick update. I just pulled my second saucer casting from the mold. The first one is deformed due to the resin expanding and causing a bulge. I cut a couple plywood squares to clamp on the outside of the mold to prevent the problem. The second casting is real nice. That means all the major parts are there and I can start on building a real model of the Baton Rouge class. Expect pictures soon. Wink [;)]

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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Woody

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Posted by Woody on Friday, April 15, 2005 6:22 AM

I have most parts ready for assembly except for the saucer. I have to repair the saucer mold but that should be a quick and easy fix. I hope to have pics of my progress posted tonight or later this weekend. I also received an email from the caster who is doing the castings for my kit. He said they looked very good and will be starting on casting the parts soon.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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Woody

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Posted by Woody on Friday, March 25, 2005 1:39 PM

I've started building my Baton Rouge again. I hope to have some more pics up soon. Wink [;)]

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 20, 2005 8:55 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mikeym_us

but if I remember correctly wasn't it starfleet policy at the time to give each ship a different badge and stripe design to set each ship appart from the other due to them litterally looking alike.

I don't think so. The only ships of that era we've seen on screen are Enterprise, Constellation (using an AMT model of Enterprise), and Daedalus (as a small model in Sisko's office). The TOS era ships used the same pennants, while Daedalus used a three stripe arrangement. In my ship schematics, I used the Daedalus pennants for the oldest ships, Enterprise-style strips for the more recent ones, and a modified command star for the middle ones. I didn't think that Starfleet would change markings very often, so three in 100 years seemed like plenty.

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Woody

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Posted by Woody on Sunday, March 20, 2005 1:29 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mikeym_us

but if I remember correctly wasn't it starfleet policy at the time to give each ship a different badge and stripe design to set each ship appart from the other due to them litterally looking alike.

Remember this ship was around long before the Constellations. I personally believe that the policy of different ship symbols had yet to be used. We know the Daedalus class used a simple three line stripe and The Baton Rouge falls between those two eras.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mikeym_us

hmmmmmmmm that pennant you designed looks similar to the pennant on the Constellation.

Yes, it is by design. I wanted to combine the tri-stripe of the daedalus era with that of the Enterprise's, but do you like it?

By the way if anyone has an idea about what markings this ship should carry, I'd love to see them. Masao? Hmmmm? Wink [;)]

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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Mikeym_us

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Sunday, March 20, 2005 8:51 AM

but if I remember correctly wasn't it starfleet policy at the time to give each ship a different badge and stripe design to set each ship appart from the other due to them litterally looking alike.

hmmmmmmmm that pennant you designed looks similar to the pennant on the Constellation.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15 http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Woody

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Posted by Woody on Saturday, March 19, 2005 11:17 AM

Masao I suggested a stripe like this. Forgive the crude look I whipped it up in "Paint" and heaven knows I'm nobodies CG artist. Big Smile [:D]

I also suggested to John a layout similair to that of your Avenger.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 18, 2005 6:31 PM

Markings: I'd suggest using either the TOS-style pennants or the pennants I designed for my USS Swordfish, Lancaster, and Paris, which is based on the command star.

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Woody

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Posted by Woody on Friday, March 18, 2005 6:25 AM

Thank you Jason!

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, March 18, 2005 6:23 AM

Nice work, Woody.

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Woody

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Posted by Woody on Friday, March 18, 2005 6:04 AM

Starship Modeler is working up the decals. I have sent a couple suggestions to John so we'll have to see what he decides. I recommended that we use these names and reg numbers; USS Moscow NCC-1357, USS Tehran NCC-1371, and USS Republic NCC-1378. Masao do you have any suggestions for markings?

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, March 17, 2005 11:01 PM

Woody, the original painting doesn't have much in the way of markings. What sort of markings will you use?

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Woody

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Posted by Woody on Thursday, March 17, 2005 10:42 PM

A quick update: I put the masters in the mail today. I must admit I was a little sad to see them go. They grow up so quickly! LOL

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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Woody

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Posted by Woody on Monday, March 14, 2005 6:01 AM

Masao, That is right. The pictured molds are so I can complete my original project. I want to take my Baton Rouge to Wonderfest but SSM won't have a kit ready until just before the show.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 13, 2005 11:15 PM

So, do you mean that you'll be sending SSM the masters and it will handle the mold-making and casting?

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Woody

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Posted by Woody on Sunday, March 13, 2005 8:10 PM

Starship Modeler will be selling them and they will be for sale when they get done producing the kits. The molds above are quickly done affairs that I intend to use to finish my original GB project. The kits will hopefully be done by late May.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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Anonymous

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, March 13, 2005 7:48 PM

So, Woody, is the kit now officially for sale? Give the word, and the money is on its way.

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madmike

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Posted by madmike on Sunday, March 13, 2005 2:51 AM

Excellent!

Now I need to get one of these kits...wonder what the postage would be to get it down under???

cheers

Mike

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei

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Woody

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Posted by Woody on Sunday, March 13, 2005 12:25 AM

Yeah the last of the Baton Rouge molds have been poured!

This is a one piece mold for the warp nacelle strut(s), deflector backing plate, and the saucer pylon.

This is the bottom half of a two piece mold for the deflector dish.

I took this picture after I had this one piece mold for the bussard collector and impulse engine insert, ready to pour. I seperated these parts from the other one piece mold because I want to cast these in red tinted clear poyester resin.

Best of all my sanity is fully intact! Well mostly anyway.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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Woody

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Posted by Woody on Friday, March 11, 2005 6:45 PM

I love Enterprise. It's continuity problems preclude it from the established Trek universe in my personal opinion. That hasn't stopped me from watching it every week as good solid Sci-Fi. Wink [;)]

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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madmike

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Posted by madmike on Friday, March 11, 2005 6:16 PM

I read that as well....

Actually Enterprise is not all that bad really....

I still prefer Classic Trek though.....

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Mike

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei

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Woody

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Posted by Woody on Friday, March 11, 2005 6:13 PM

True, I just read he co-wrote the season finally. Seems that Deanna Troi and Captian Riker will be in that episode which reveals that "Enterprise" was a historical holodeck program. I guess they rewrite history in the future too. Laugh [(-D]

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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madmike

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Posted by madmike on Friday, March 11, 2005 6:06 PM

I just wish Berman and crowd has been more "canon" in thier interpretation of the established ST universe....

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Mike

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei

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Woody

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Posted by Woody on Friday, March 11, 2005 5:41 PM

Mike, me too. I've been a long time fan of that design and the Marshall class.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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madmike

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Posted by madmike on Friday, March 11, 2005 5:30 PM

Now that is a good price :)

I have liked the Baton Ruge class ever since I got the Space Flight Chronology back in 1980 Smile [:)]

cheers

Mike

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei

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Woody

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Posted by Woody on Friday, March 11, 2005 12:32 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by madmike

This looks superb!!

Is there a price on this masterpiece?

cheers

Mike

I'm told it will be $60 - $70 but that was an estimate at this stage.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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madmike

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Posted by madmike on Friday, March 11, 2005 6:40 AM

This looks superb!!

Is there a price on this masterpiece?

cheers

Mike

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." - Galileo Galilei

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Woody

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Posted by Woody on Friday, March 11, 2005 6:04 AM

The neck in the kit is the second version I tried. I tried to make one like that in the pic but it didn't look right. The painting has a few quirks that don't translate well into a physical model. My Baton Rouge is a composite of the painting, the schematic, and my interpretation of those parts not shown. In my mind there is a structure or "scaffolding" attached to the left side of the neck for it's construction. I've always felt the painting shows the construction of the USS Moscow because there are no markings on the ships hull yet and because of the nacelle being attached.

" I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones

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