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                        The Starfleet Museum group build

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 24, 2005 7:41 PM
                        I was rooting around my hard disc and found this small picture of the ventral surface of PV. I remember drawing it at the requesti of the modeler who did the render I showed.

                        I sometimes say that my schematics aren't complete so that modelers may have the chance to be creative. However, that's just an excuse. The truth is that my meager drafting skills don't allow me to accurately draw complex interactions between curved surfaces!

                        Remember that the 3-D model is just one person's interpretation of my incomplete and inaccurate drawing. Your's may differ.
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                        Woody
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                          December 2002
                        • From: Third rock from the sun.
                        Posted by Woody on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 6:09 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by Masao

                        I haven't built anything for years (I just draw now) but I'm thinking about trying something small and simple, maybe a Moskva or Comet. If I do, I'll probably be needing a lot of advice from you guys.

                        Jump in Masao! Approve [^]

                        " I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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                        Anonymous
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                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 12:49 AM
                        I don't know, Woody. Since becoming a computer schematic draftsman, I've gotten used to have my hands clean and my fingers unbandaged. I'm a wuss, I know.
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                        Woody
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                        • From: Third rock from the sun.
                        Posted by Woody on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 5:58 AM
                        Masao, You wouldn't happen to have a ventral view of the Avenger like the PV image above?

                        " I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 11:52 AM
                        I found the remains of my Torsk relatively intact, and actually did a litle work on it. Pictures can be seen at:
                        http://tinyurl.com/4h78y
                        Also seen are the parts to make a chunky saucer, secondary hull, and big turret for the something-kinda-like -Paris-class project.
                        More news as it happens,
                        Andrew

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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 7:51 PM
                        I don't have ventral schematics, but here are some of the relevant parts of renders by Jan Wehlack.
                        http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/Masao/Wehlack1.jpg (112 kb)
                        http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/Masao/Wehlack2.jpg (104 kb)
                        http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/Masao/Wehlack3.jpg (68 kb)

                        Hey, Andrew! I remember that project. You were working on a few of my ships, if I remember correctly.
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                        Woody
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                          December 2002
                        • From: Third rock from the sun.
                        Posted by Woody on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 9:22 PM
                        Masao, Does the convex shape on top of the saucer mirror the convex shape on the bottom? They look like they should be the same to my eye.

                        " I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:00 PM
                        Here are keyline drawings of the front side views. The top mound is 1.77 times taller than the bottom mound, but their edges seem to match up.
                        http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/Masao/destroyerlines2.jpg
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                        Woody
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                          December 2002
                        • From: Third rock from the sun.
                        Posted by Woody on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:19 PM
                        That is exactly what I needed Masao. Thank you.

                        " I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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                        SNOOPY
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                          December 2002
                        Posted by SNOOPY on Friday, January 28, 2005 11:30 AM
                        Thanks everyone for their suggestions. I think I will start with a Daedalus Class ship. I have inserted the jpeg into Autocad and am going to trace out most of the parts and then use them as templates. I would insert the image but I do not know how to do that. Put me down for one build, please.

                        Scott

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                        Woody
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Third rock from the sun.
                        Posted by Woody on Friday, January 28, 2005 12:37 PM
                        Thats great Scott. I've added you to the roster.

                        " I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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                        SNOOPY
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                        Posted by SNOOPY on Friday, January 28, 2005 6:43 PM
                        Thanks Woody:)
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                        SNOOPY
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                          December 2002
                        Posted by SNOOPY on Friday, January 28, 2005 6:46 PM
                        Matt (MAXX1969), How did you make you saucer section with the cresent moon on the forward part of the saucer. It looks like it was one solid mold?

                        Scott
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                        maxx1969
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                          May 2004
                        • From: Oregon
                        Posted by maxx1969 on Friday, January 28, 2005 7:49 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by SNOOPY

                        Matt (MAXX1969), How did you make you saucer section with the cresent moon on the forward part of the saucer. It looks like it was one solid mold?

                        Scott


                        Boy I wish I could tell you but it was trial and error. The one thing I do on all complex shapes is to first cut it out on card stock. Once I have it right I transfer it to styrene. The saucer top is actualy several dome and curved shapes brought together (and you can throw in some luck on this one).
                        Glad you found a project and I'll be looking forward to your progress.

                        Matt
                        ~Matt T Meyer
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 28, 2005 8:18 PM
                        OK guys I'm going to attempt the Kestrel Class, time permitting of course. So sign me up! I've been reading up on it and it sounds intriguing. The shape looks fairly simple, just need to find some warp engines.
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                        maxx1969
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                          May 2004
                        • From: Oregon
                        Posted by maxx1969 on Friday, January 28, 2005 9:25 PM
                        Cool pick Steven. That should be a fun build.

                        Matt
                        ~Matt T Meyer
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                        Woody
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Third rock from the sun.
                        Posted by Woody on Saturday, January 29, 2005 1:36 AM
                        Steven, Very nice choice Cool [8D]. I've added you to the roster.

                        " I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 29, 2005 9:16 AM
                        Thanks guys. I think its simple enough not to drive me nuts. Now I just have to draw it out and see what scale to build it in. Hey Matt can you remove my name from the list of members on the Ground Assualt GB? I don't have the time to properly devote to the tank I was planning on. Thanks.
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                        maxx1969
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                          May 2004
                        • From: Oregon
                        Posted by maxx1969 on Saturday, January 29, 2005 2:15 PM
                        No problem Steven.

                        Matt
                        ~Matt T Meyer
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 29, 2005 3:44 PM
                        By the way, what are most of you building in scale-wise? At 1/1000 the Kestrel comes out at only 4.39". Seems kinda tiny.
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                        maxx1969
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                          May 2004
                        • From: Oregon
                        Posted by maxx1969 on Saturday, January 29, 2005 7:24 PM
                        Mine is 1:1000 so I could have some other ships to display with the PL TOS Enterprise and the extra nacelles came in handy.

                        Matt
                        ~Matt T Meyer
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 29, 2005 7:26 PM
                        After further inspection I guess it will be fine. The nacelles will have to be scratched, though. I may need a ventral view and more info on weapons placement, etc.
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                        Woody
                        • Member since
                          December 2002
                        • From: Third rock from the sun.
                        Posted by Woody on Saturday, January 29, 2005 8:36 PM
                        QUOTE: Originally posted by StevenQ

                        By the way, what are most of you building in scale-wise? At 1/1000 the Kestrel comes out at only 4.39". Seems kinda tiny.

                        Everything I build anymore is 1/1000 but that is just me. Build it what ever scale you like. My Avenger will be about 7 3/4" give or take. I'm working off drawings I've had copied to scale and the exact length escapes me.

                        By the way I have been working on my project but I haven't gotten around to taking any pics. It's been a little hectic around here. My wife who was told by the experts 7 years ago that she couldn't become pregnant called me Thur. morning. She went to the Doc thinking her blood sugar was off only to find out she is expecting. Life is nothing if not exciting. Big Smile [:D]

                        " I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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                        maxx1969
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                          May 2004
                        • From: Oregon
                        Posted by maxx1969 on Saturday, January 29, 2005 9:34 PM
                        CONGRATS! Party [party]Yeah!! [yeah]Big Smile [:D]!!!

                        Matt
                        ~Matt T Meyer
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 30, 2005 9:29 AM
                        Yes congrats Woody!! Better start kid-proofing the old work bench now. Big Smile [:D]
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                        Woody
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                          December 2002
                        • From: Third rock from the sun.
                        Posted by Woody on Sunday, January 30, 2005 5:07 PM
                        Thanks guys. We were caught by suprise but it's a happy suprise.Wink [;)]

                        " I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." --John Paul Jones
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 30, 2005 8:39 PM
                        Congrats on the new scratchbuild, Woody!

                        StevenQ: I never did a ventral view of Kestrel, but I think it would look pretty much the same as the dorsal. The only real difference is that the secondary hull is mounted a bit more towards dorsal. As far as I can tell, it has five phaser turrets and two large cannons in front. Here's a larger jpg (279 kb): http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v22/Masao/Kestrel2005.jpg Good luck!
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 30, 2005 8:46 PM
                        Thanks, Masao. I printed that pic off the site and it actually came out close enough to 1/1000 scale to use as a pattern. I take it the red "bumps" are the phasers. How 'bout the shuttle bay locale?
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 31, 2005 12:27 AM
                        You're welcome, StevenQ. I usually draw my ships in 1/1000 scale to simply ship charts and comparisons. This one was output at 144 dpi for the added clarity. The scale bar should keep things straight, I hope.

                        Those red bumps are phaser turrets, and the rectangle on top of the secondary hull (with the name and registry number) is the opening to the shuttle bay.
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                        Anonymous
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                          November 2005
                        Posted by Anonymous on Monday, January 31, 2005 7:14 PM
                        Oustanding! Thanks Masao.
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