Identify This!!! 1.0

       This question can be directed to bryan01, but can be answered by anyone.

   This replica vessel was the first European ship to sight the coastline of Australia in the year 1606. What is her name, and what company did she work for ?

       Montani semper liberi !  Happy modeling to all and every one of you.

                            Crackers 

 

 

      

The photo is not coming through.....

I'll take a guess anyway, must be Duyfken!

 

The VOC ship Duyfken, purchased from a ship broker in 1602.

She was a small jacht, of about 50-60 last, used for scouting and light duty, assigned to local work in the East Indies. Her captain and crew accidentally discovered the Australian continent in 1606. I think she was worn out and broken up between 1612 and 1618.

This ship is the second Duyfken to work for the VOC, with the first sailing in the 1595 Amsterdam fleet under Cornilis de Hautman.

The Freemantle Duyfken replica is in my mind the absolute best for a ship of this era, truly right on target. Here she is in the North Sea - amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlihilYmpao

BTW, if anyone knows how to post a link that will open, please let me know . .

Jim

    Woodburner and bryan01, please advance forward to the front of the class to receive a spontaneous ovation from the Forum members. You are correct. The original Duyfken (Little Dove) employed by the Vereenigde Oost Indische Compagnie, or VOC, sailed east from Banda Island in 1606, searching for the fabled land of Terra Australis Incognita. Nearly four centuries later, the Duyfken replica sailed from modern Australia to retrace the route to the spice islands of Banda, in modern Indonesia.

                  Sorry, I could not post a picture of the Duyfkin. Can't figure out why this happened.

                   Woodburner, you have the floor for your question.

        Montani semper liberi !   Happy modeling to all and every one of you.

                                                      Crackers  

Here is a jacht similar to Duyfken, in another terra ingonita. Her name is not known, so she is commonly referred to by the name of her commander - i.e., so and so's jacht. Who is he and where are they?

  That picture is from a journal published in 1599 of the voyage of the Dutch explorer, Willem Barents, who tried to explore a northwest passage over the top of Europe and Asia. His efforts ended in his death and 20 of his crewmen from scurvy, when they were stranded on the Russian island of Novaya Zemlya after their ship was crushed in the polar ice. A dozen survivors managed to return to Amsterdam 17 months later after they built a small boat and sailed to a trading post on the Russian mainland. The Barents Sea is named after this explorer.

     Montani semper liberi !  Happy modeling to all and every one of you.

                                          Crackers 

              

Now see who's smart as a whip!

Thats right, this is the Barents expedition, stuck in the ice in Nova Zembla. They are also given full scientific credit for the first recorded observation of the "Nova Zembla Effect," an atmospheric phenomenon.

The illustration is from DeVeer's "De Waerachtige Beschryvanghe van drie seylagian, ter werelt noyt so vreemt ghehoort . . " published by Cornilis Claesz in Amsterdam in 1598.

The expedition had the misfortune of seeking a northern passage during the depth of what is now known as the Little Ice Age, when temperatures were considerably colder than today. Other expeditions had even worse fates, with the loss of all hands.

The small jacht in DeVeer's illustration has been reconstructed in Ab Hoving and Cor Emke's book "Het Schip van Willem Barents: Een Hypothetische Reconstructie van een Laat-Zestiende-Eeuws Jacht." By following the illustrations, and ship practices of the time, they developed a full set of plans, included in a CD attached to the book. I dont read Dutch very well, but its one of my top favorites.

Take it away, its all yours!

    Named after a British Member of Parliment, who introduced legislation that required the painting of cargo load limits on the hulls of merchants ships, this sailing vessel was launched in 1873. This ironed hull vessel, painted green ,was employed by the Aberdeen White Star Line for the transport of mail and emigrants from Plymouth, England to Sydney, Australia. Returning back to England, she often carried bales of raw wool for the English woolen industry. After more than 20 round trips, this vessel in June of 1902, had the misfortune of loosing her masts in a violent storm. A passing steamship towed the hapless vessel to Gisborne, New Zealand where she was declaired unfit for further service. She ended her days as a coal barge in Fremantle, Australia.

           Can you name this beautiful windjammer that changed the lives of thousand of emigrants from the British Isles ?

         Montani semper liberi !    Happy modeling to all and every one of you.

                                                 Crackers 

Samuel Plimsoll was the man who became famous for campaigning to get the Merchant Shipping Act of 1871 amended to include load lines on ships, so I would imagine the ship is named after him.

   George W, you are correct ! Please step forward to receive an hysterical thunderous applause from the Forum audience. You deserve recognition for your knowledge.

           The floor is yours for your pictorial question.

   Montani semper liberi !  Happy modeling to all and every one of you.

                                       Crackers  

Steady on there crackers, you'll have me blushing

This one is perhaps a little more testing.

Here I am in much reduced circumstances, my glory days long past. I fought in a major battle in 1782, and later I was commanded by a Captain of certain notoriety, butI did achieve one small first late in my career.

Who am I?

What was my first?

[whistling . . . ]

  I'll take a long shot guess and say that you are referring to Captain Peter Heywood. Early in his career, as a midshipman, he was implicated in the Bounty mutiny affair. He was later absolved and became a successful captain in the Royal Navy. Eventually, Captain Heywood was in command of the Leopard which led Chesapeake-Leopard incident in 1807, with other acts, led to the War of 1812. The Leopard was converted into a troopship and wrecked on Anticosti Island, on the Saint Lawrence River, in June 28, 1814.

    montani semper liberi !   Happy modeling to all and every one of you.

                                     Crackers            

Not a bad ranging shot Crackers, you're sort of on the right track concerning her one time Captain, but it's the ship name we're after and the unique feature she had late in her career.

It would help to first identify the battle, then the ship type, that should lead to a name with the appropriate history.

 

 

Hmm... This looks more like some sort of prison hulk to me...

This one seems to be presenting some problems, so some additional clues.

You could say her one time Captain was up to his old tricks again.

Our ship missed the big naval event of the early 19^th century, and shortly after the end of the Napoleonic wars was taken out of sea going service.

Her post naval career exceeded the length of her naval career, and it is during this time that she is portrayed.

A certain Mr John Howard would no doubt have approved of the unique modification she underwent in 1847.

 I would hazard a guess and say it was Admiral Rodney's flagship HMS Formidable. 1782 was the clue for the Battle of the Saints in the West Indies. But I have no idea what else happened to her after the battle.

You have the battle surfsup, but not the ship.

Rodney's Formidable incidently was broken up at Chatham in 1816.

Looking at the size of her, She has to be one of the fist rate Ships of about 90 guns. She could be any of the Barfluer, the Duke, the Prince George or the Namur. For some reason, I am leaning towards the Prince George. I read about this Battle and the Ships histories but cannot put my finger on it.

 Did she also become a stage for the First production of HMS Pinafore?

I think this is a picture of HMS Warrior, a 74 built in 1781, later commanded by William Bligh.  The ship was a convict hulk after 1840, and was broken up in 1857.  I haven't clue what sort of 'conversion' was done in 1847, or how 'John Howard' was involved, but she she was in The Battle of the Saintes in 1782.  A later HMS Warrior was the first ironclad warship, but it wasn't the ship in the picture, nor did it have any other association other than its name.

She is indeed HMS Warrior, a prison hulk until 1851, when following a mutiny on board, the prisoners were sent to Millbank Prison and she was subsequently sold off being broken up in 1857.

She is pictured alongside the quay at Woolwich, necessary for the unique modification made, that John Howard, the eighteenth century prison reformer, would have considered gave some improvement to the miserable lives of the inmates.

A thought perhaps not shared by the prisoners in view of the mutiny.

Anyone care to have a stab at the final part of the question before I reveal the answer.

I believe it had something to do with providing education for prisoners (taught to read, and/or a trade), and was an important early step in prison reform.... so perhaps the ship was modified to provide for a sort of library/lecture area

I'm not sure they were that enlightened in mid Victorian England, this improvement was more of a utilitarian nature, something that was becoming more common in general, but not otherwise  on  prison hulks.

 

I think you might be surprised... Alright then, a laundry!

A laundry would no doubt have been of great benefit, but that's not it.

One more chance to see the light before all is revealed, to bring this one to a close I will post the answer this time tomorrow.

Shall we say "facilities"?   i.e. a pot to******in and so forth.

 

Time's up, here's the answer. 

The reason Warrior was brought alongside the quay at Woolwich rather than being moored in the River as was usual, is that it allowed the installation of gas lighting, the only hulk to have it.

It must have made life a little better below decks, but not much, I do not know the specific cause of the mutiny that took place in 1851, put down by Royal Marines, but life on hulks was very harsh.

My last two response posts included references to enlightened, and seeing the light which I thought may have given a final lead.

I will return with a replacement poser 'ere long.

A more straightforward one that shouldn't present too much of a problem.

What is her name?