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Identify This!!! 1.0

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Posted by GeorgeW on Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:10 AM

Thanks Jim,

Here's a fine looking vessel, who is she, and what is special about her?

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Posted by bryan01 on Sunday, January 25, 2009 4:13 AM

I think it is the Russian battleship Rostislav 1896. The colors of the funnels made me think she might be Russian.

In 1909 she accidentally sunk the Russian submarine Karas. In 1920 she was scuttled by the Mensheviks in order to prevent capture by the Bolsheviks.

 

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Posted by GeorgeW on Sunday, January 25, 2009 4:55 AM
That she be Bryan, but she did have a first for a major battleship. Care to fill in the blank? but having identifed the ship you're up.
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Posted by bryan01 on Sunday, January 25, 2009 6:28 AM

 GeorgeW wrote:
.....but she did have a first for a major battleship. Care to fill in the blank?

Found it: she was the first oil-fuelled battleship in the world!

New picture:

Small clue, the picture was taken in August 1914, note the black funnel tops!

 

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Posted by GeorgeW on Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:24 AM

That's the answer Bryan, with our recent exhaustive teach-in on marine power I would have been disappointed if you'd passed on that oneWink [;)]

As far as the new picture is concerned there is definitely a teutonic look about her, but there were several of those four stackers around the turn of the century, and several had interesting times around August 1914 when the First World war began.

I'll have a stab at Kaiser Wilhelm 11 detained in USA when she arrived following her transatlantic voyage started before war was declared.

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Posted by bryan01 on Sunday, January 25, 2009 7:49 AM

Close, but not there yet.

The ship in the picture was also at sea on the day the British ultimatum expired. A few days later the residents of a small coastal town in the United States were surprised to find the Olympic anchored in their harbor.

 

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Posted by woodburner on Sunday, January 25, 2009 10:18 AM

In fact it was Kronprinzessen Cecilie.  

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Posted by bryan01 on Sunday, January 25, 2009 10:27 AM

You're correct Jim! Interesting story.

(From a website: Her commercial career ended when World War I began seven years later. At sea on 31 July, only 900 miles from reaching Plymouth, Kronprinzessin Cecile was ordered to return to the United States with her 1,216 passengers. (She was also carrying over $14 million in gold and silver destined to pay American industrial borrowings from British and French banks.) During the crossing, the tops of her buff funnels were painted black in an effort to disguise the ship as White Star's Olympic. She arrived at Bar Harbor, Maine, on 4 August and, after her passengers disembarked and the gold and silver were unloaded, she remained there for six weeks, guarded by a Coast Guard cutter and two destroyers. She was then escorted to Boston, where she was interned until the United States entered the war in 1917.)

You're next Jim!

 

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Posted by woodburner on Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:24 AM

Aquitania of the 1880s. 

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Posted by crackers on Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:36 PM

 Dear bryan01:  Please excuse my interruption on your postings of the thread,"Identify this!!!" You and others exchange pictures of old vessels, whereby viewers can guess the name of a vessel. All of you have access to pictures. Can you do me a favor, please ?

                      In 1896, at the age of 21, my Northern Italian maternal grandmother emigrated to America on the French liner, La Bourgogne. This vessel launched in 1886, was involved in a foggy collision with the English sailing ship, Cromartyshire, on the morning of July 4, 1898, off Sable Island, Nova Scotia, Canada. The Cromartyshire remained afloat, and able to rescue some passangers, but tragically, 560 of the La Bourgogne's passangers died in the frigid waters.

                       I have never seen a picture of La Bourgogne. Can you please post a picture of this vessel for me to see? I would be very grateful for your favor.  

    Montani semper liberi ! Happy modeling to all and every one of you.

                        Crackers

Anthony V. Santos

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Posted by bryan01 on Monday, January 26, 2009 4:00 AM

 woodburner wrote:
All right, here goes: the Aquitania of the 1880s.

Hmmm tough one and although I'm still hesitating I'm gonna guess: one of the Cunard sisters Umbria and Etruria 1884.

 

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Posted by woodburner on Monday, January 26, 2009 5:31 PM

Close! This ship led directly to the construction of Umbria and Etruria.

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Posted by bryan01 on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 3:47 AM

Ok, now I know how to interpret "Aquitania of the 1880s"; she was a stand-alone and not part of a twin.

It must be Cunard's Servia 1881 then! Pretty ship!

 

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Posted by woodburner on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 6:52 PM

Thats correct, the Servia. 

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Posted by bryan01 on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 3:26 AM

Thank you Jim. Well, this is a real "Identify This" as I myself don't know the name of this ship (anymore). I found it, thought it could be used in the future, downloaded it & forgot the name!

So, what is the name of this ship and what happened to it?

 

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Posted by subfixer on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 4:26 AM
That's the USS San Franscisco, she hit an underwater seamount off of Guam. It resulted in one fatality.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by bryan01 on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:42 AM

And thank you Subfixer. Your turn to post a picture then; looking forward to it!

 

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Posted by subfixer on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 3:08 PM

Here you go:

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Posted by bryan01 on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 3:12 PM

Queen Elizabeth?

 

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Posted by subfixer on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 7:23 PM
Right ship, wrong name.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by ddp59 on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 8:07 PM

RMS Queen Elizabeth in hong kong harbor.

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Posted by woodburner on Thursday, January 29, 2009 2:52 AM

Seawise University

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Posted by subfixer on Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:49 AM
You are correct, woodburner. The next question is yours.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by woodburner on Thursday, January 29, 2009 11:44 AM

This American ship crossed the bar, and its name name has been on something that's flown into space.   

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Posted by searat12 on Thursday, January 29, 2009 12:50 PM
Columbia?
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Posted by woodburner on Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:56 PM

Columbia Rediviva. It gave its name to the Columbia Bar, Columbia River, and British Columbia.

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Posted by searat12 on Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:09 PM

Right!  This ship is a National Monument, and I have it for sale.  What is its name?

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Posted by woodburner on Friday, January 30, 2009 1:09 AM

Sailed on her years ago.  The biscuits in the galley were incredible.  But let someone else identify her.

You own her? What a small world.

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Posted by searat12 on Friday, January 30, 2009 8:00 AM
I am the broker (it's my business!)
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Posted by bryan01 on Friday, January 30, 2009 8:45 AM

Is it Victory Chimes?

 

Bryan
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