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Posted by searat12 on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 2:42 PM
The ship is the 'Bretagne,' and is receiving Queen Victoria at Cherbourg for a banquet given by Napoleon III and his empress to celebrate the completion of the fortifications at Cherbourg, painted by Jules Noel in 1859........
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Posted by ddp59 on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 2:48 PM
late 1700's to early 1800's. a festival or jubilee but not a battle. not english ships so either french, spanish or dutch.
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Posted by bryan01 on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 2:57 PM

You may not know much about liners but you certainly know your way around pictures Searat Smile [:)]! You're up!

 

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Posted by searat12 on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:33 PM

OK, so much for the French (for the moment!).  Here is a pilot schooner, once the pride of the Boston Pilots, and a notably fast sailer.  What is its name, and what was the name of the boat that finally defeated her?

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Posted by crackers on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 4:23 PM

  Dear Searat12:  I'm guessing. The pilot boat in question can either be the Dancing Feather of 1853 or the Hesper of 1884. I do not know what boat defeated her.

                         Is guessing two pilot boats acceptable ?

  Montani semper liberi ! Happy modeling to all and every one of you. 

                                    Crackers

Anthony V. Santos

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Posted by searat12 on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 5:21 PM
No more hints!  Choose a boat!  'Hesper' and 'Dancing Feather' are quite different boats from each other!  The boat that defeated this one formed the basis for a whole class of boats, and so is very important too!  No 'throwing out of names,' choose a boat and stand by it!
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Posted by enemeink on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:28 PM
the ship is the Hesper and the ship that beat her is the Fredonia.
"The race for quality has no finish line, so technically it's more like a death march."
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Posted by searat12 on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:09 PM
Absolutely correct!  Goof job enemeink, and it is now your turn!!
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Posted by enemeink on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 5:37 PM

I'll try my best at this.....

During the war of 1812 owners of private vessels were given permission to prey upon the enemys shipping giving them the name "privateers." Among those first privateers to take to the seas was this tops'l schooner Her commission was dated less than a month after the declaration war, on July 14th 1812. Built to attack enemy merchant ships, she carried six 12-pounders and a crew of forty men. Unfortunately, she was captured at the mouth of the Rappahannock River by the British the following spring and was put into service for the Royal Navy.

 

"The race for quality has no finish line, so technically it's more like a death march."
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Posted by searat12 on Wednesday, January 14, 2009 5:56 PM
Nice Baltimore Clipper!  The 'Lynx?'
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Posted by enemeink on Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:05 AM

 searat12 wrote:
Nice Baltimore Clipper!  The 'Lynx?'

You are correct!

"The race for quality has no finish line, so technically it's more like a death march."
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Posted by searat12 on Thursday, January 15, 2009 11:42 AM

It appears we must make these a bit tougher...... Here is a very famous ship with a very long career.  As a hint, I can tell you that it was eventually captured and burnt!  What was the name of this ship, and in what battle was it captured and burned?

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Posted by enemeink on Thursday, January 15, 2009 12:17 PM
The Royal Prince at the 4 Days Battle?
"The race for quality has no finish line, so technically it's more like a death march."
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Posted by searat12 on Thursday, January 15, 2009 12:19 PM
You amaze me sir!  Correct!
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Posted by enemeink on Thursday, January 15, 2009 12:57 PM

 searat12 wrote:
You amaze me sir!  Correct!

It's funny I just happened to have read things related to both ships in the past couple of days. pure luck really.

ok here's a tough one, maybe..... i can't post a picture because it would be a dead giveaway on this particular ship.

This king had the nickname of "the Lion of the North" in the 1600's he had commisioned 4 ships to be built. 3 of these ships are lesser known but the 4th is quite famous. the 3 sisterships are; Tre Kroner, Mercuris, and Applet.

It's vague but i think that any more clues would make it easy.

"The race for quality has no finish line, so technically it's more like a death march."
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Posted by searat12 on Thursday, January 15, 2009 1:13 PM
Vasa?
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Posted by enemeink on Thursday, January 15, 2009 1:53 PM

 searat12 wrote:
Vasa?

you sir are correct Make a Toast [#toast]

"The race for quality has no finish line, so technically it's more like a death march."
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Posted by searat12 on Thursday, January 15, 2009 2:28 PM

Here's an interesting type of gaff cutter, which was used (sometimes with different rigs in earlier days) to carry small cargo up until the early 19th century.  You can see it's relationship with the old Viking longships, as well as the later Cog.  What kind of boat is this?

 

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Posted by woodburner on Thursday, January 15, 2009 3:28 PM

Humber perhaps. 

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Posted by searat12 on Thursday, January 15, 2009 9:25 PM
Nope!  Here's another hint.... It's from the Isle of Man.....
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Posted by bryan01 on Friday, January 16, 2009 2:12 AM

Is it a Manx Nobby?

 

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Posted by searat12 on Friday, January 16, 2009 7:46 AM
Nope! Not a Nobby (Nobbys are generally either from Morecombe Bay/Lancashire, or Northern Wales (Conwy) and are exceedingly yachtlike in form....... Try again!
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Posted by searat12 on Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:06 AM
Still no takers?
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Posted by GeorgeW on Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:01 AM
A Manx Herring Smack perhaps?
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Posted by searat12 on Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:25 AM
Close, although it was often used to transport herring for sale and curing to Liverpool, it was not often used for fishing itself.... Another hint...Thse were often schooner-rigged, though just as many (like this one) were cutter-rigged.....
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Posted by GeorgeW on Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:35 AM

Maybe a Wherry then, although I didn't think they were specific to thr IoM

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Posted by searat12 on Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:42 AM
Hooray!!  A Manx Wherry is absolutely correct!!!  Your turn GeorgeW!!
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Posted by GeorgeW on Sunday, January 18, 2009 2:42 AM

First I was three, then I was one.

First I had broadsides, then I had none,

First I was sail, then I was screw,

Now I have turrets and one funnel too.

My forebear was famous, my heir she was strong

 Who can I be? - don't take too long.

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Posted by bryan01 on Monday, January 19, 2009 9:27 AM

I'm pretty sure it must be HMS Royal Sovereign 1857, a converted Duke of Wellington class three-decker.

Nice rhyme btw Smile [:)]

 

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Posted by GeorgeW on Monday, January 19, 2009 11:01 AM

Well done Bryan, you surely know your pre-dreadnoughts. I shall have to move era to test you further, on second thoughts I think I already have over on the Trivia quiz.Wink [;)]

Can any ship ever have been so messed about with; converted on the stocks to to screw, then put into ordinary, then cut down to the lower deck, clad in iron and fitted with turrets, but she was the first and only wooden turret ship in the British Navy.

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