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Building a Revell 1/96 Kearsarge

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  • Member since
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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Wednesday, November 15, 2017 9:58 AM

Why can't FSM enable us to post directly from our hard drives?  I know that other sites, such as www.papermodelers.com make posting photos extremely easy.  Why do we have to use a photo service?

Bill Morrison

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, November 15, 2017 9:48 AM

Hi Al,

I switched to Fotki.

It costs me about $ 24 a year for the level of data storage I picked. No doubt that’ll change.

As fast as before. Works pretty much the same way. NO ads.

You can grab copies of all of your photos, one album at a time 

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Wyoming Michigan
Posted by ejhammer on Wednesday, November 15, 2017 8:39 AM

alross2

Yuh, I was afraid of that.  Ever since a certain photo hosting site got greedy, I have not had much luck sharing photos.  For those members who are sharing photos, what are you using?

Al Ross

 

 

I tried Imgur. Seems to work for me, but now being gunshy, I've not delved to deep into posting stuff on any hosting service. They can all do the same thing as PB did. Wish there was a way to post pics directly from my hard drive.

EJ

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by alross2 on Wednesday, November 15, 2017 8:28 AM

Yuh, I was afraid of that.  Ever since a certain photo hosting site got greedy, I have not had much luck sharing photos.  For those members who are sharing photos, what are you using?

Al Ross

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Posted by ejhammer on Wednesday, November 15, 2017 7:28 AM

littletimmy

Apparently your links only work for people on facebook.

 

 

Same here. Clicking the little X does nothing. The link sends me to log in to facebook, of which I do not have an account. I'm finding that not eveyone does facebook or twitter or -----??

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by littletimmy on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 9:09 PM

Apparently your links only work for people on facebook.

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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Posted by alross2 on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 9:01 PM
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Posted by alross2 on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 8:48 PM

Click on the small black box with an X.  It should come up (does for me).  For more photos, go to my KEARSARGE ALBUM   https://www.facebook.com/al.ross.315/media_set?set=a.10214271698326038.1073741831.1223199372&type=3

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Posted by ejhammer on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 8:28 PM
No picture

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by alross2 on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 7:51 PM

As noted in this thread, the Revell KEARSARGE is a composite of the original and post 1888 refit configurations.  Here is the correct forecastle for the 1864 configuration.

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Posted by warshipguy on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 6:36 PM

Gene,

No problem. I will send it tomorrow afternoon.

Bill

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Posted by gene1 on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 4:51 PM

Bill, Yes I do . Thanks again . That would be the Starboard, right side. How do you like that starbd stuff. My brother never did learn to say right & left after his Battleship days. He flew in the Kingfisher as a signalman on the Indiana. 

  I have all the deck work done & I fit the 3 lower masts in their hole, no glue yet. They all 3 had to be sanded down quite a bit. I ground out the inside & put brass rods in the masts to stiffen them. I did put a coat of Dullcote on the deck to hide any glue. Really looks good. If I find the funnel I will mail it back to you.                             Gene

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Posted by warshipguy on Tuesday, November 14, 2017 4:34 PM

Gene,

I have an extra funnel piece if you still need it.Bill

 

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Posted by gene1 on Monday, November 13, 2017 8:31 PM

Livit, Thank you, but I guess I have been doing this so long that maybe that helps.I do sand & scrape & file every piece that I use. All the little raised lines & bad spots are cleaned up. It took me over 6 hours to pencil line all the deck lines. They do show up well.The only problem with decks like this is they have a joint. I put rope circles or bound rope over them, even tho it probably wouldn't have been there. It is better than then a joint. 

   The Kearsarge has been great fun for me. I would do a Constitution but I have a big wood Mamoli that I built over 35 years ago that sits in my iving Room. How far are you with yours? Post some pictures.

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, November 13, 2017 6:31 PM

Solid plastic masts are the hardest. A pin joined connection is unreliable, when you consider all the back-and-forth bending it gets while being rigged. There is very little worse in this life than getting a spar (or a pin rail) all rigged up and then having it snap loose. In that case I usually replace the mast, or that section of it.

If it's a two piece hollow job- like you say. Sometimes the thing needs a couplke of nested diameters of tubing.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Western No. Carolina
Posted by gene1 on Monday, November 13, 2017 6:22 PM

GM, Your mast to keel idea looks better than ever. I just realised that the masts are not solid & my brass rod would not work. I could use my brass tubing that gets progressivly smaller & build a brass tube from inside the mast to as far down as I wanted to go. Then it would be all one piece with th mast, from inside. I have done that on other things. 

   GM, how do you lengthen a plastic mast, or are you using wood? I have put brass tubes inside of plastic masts & ground out the glue points. Works great.

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  • From: Western No. Carolina
Posted by gene1 on Monday, November 13, 2017 8:40 AM

Bill, thanks on the funnel. I know it was there & I have never lost a part that I didn't find, but sometimes it takes a long, long time. I would love to see you do an Alabama. I might get the guns from Cottage, but the deck is a maybe. I don't know what I will do on the guntracks. That might force a Scaledeck.To think that I built all these over 50 years ago.

  Bill, on posting pictures check on Google Photos. They have the best editing anywhere. I still put my pictures on Picasa, Google owns them, & forward the pics to Google . Then I edit them there.I doubt if you can get on Picasa anymore, but I still do as I don't know how to load to Google. Maybe someone will teach  me.

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Posted by gene1 on Monday, November 13, 2017 8:28 AM

GM, that sounds good. Also I do notch a brass tube for the keel & make that part longer than my big pedestals so it is really holding the ship. The ship just sits on those big ones.I see what you mean about tipping over if it is just sitting on the pedestal. I always put blocks inside my big wood ships to screw into.

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Monday, November 13, 2017 6:49 AM

GM,

That is precisely how I approach the problem.  I can see no other way with the Alabama kit because the rake of the masts in the real ship is so very pronounced.

By the way, Gene has inspired me to build another Alabama. I am attempting to correct the many flaws in the kit except one.  I am not planning to lengthen the hull by 11 scale feet, nor will I attempt to correct the hull lines.  The kit part is close enough for government work, so I will keep hull modifications reasonable.  I will relocate the gun ports and trim off the lower wale before correcting the deck, the armament, the masts, etc.  I suppose  it is time to try to figure out posting photos.

Bill

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Monday, November 13, 2017 6:42 AM

Gene,

I'll check to see if I have an extra funnel half.  I should, and I'll let you know tonight.

Bill

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  • From: Asheville, NC
Posted by LIVIT on Monday, November 13, 2017 12:59 AM

Mr. Gene, I dont know if you have elves doing work for you over night or what. But the quality and speed of your build is impressive sir.  I have been working on a 1/96 Constitution almost daily for several weeks now and am no where near as far along as you are in your build.  I do find your build inspiring.   DJ

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, November 12, 2017 9:18 PM

I think I follow. I like to run my masts down to the keel when possible. I glue a pair of blocks down in the bottom, parallel to the keel, spaced apart a tight width of the mast, or your brass rod or tube. Then with the deck in, get some hour set glue down in there. I can step the mast and get the bottom end of the rod engaged between the blocks, and wiggle it fore-aft until it gages right.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Western No. Carolina
Posted by gene1 on Sunday, November 12, 2017 7:38 PM

Bill, I want to calm down that red in the funnels & I misplaced the left half of one. That is the only part I missed & I am still looking for it. Since I took this, I put that little rail in the front deck on, & it worked great. I pre drilled all the little holes for thread in the posts & opened up the deck holes. They have all been too small. I then fed all the small posts onto a .010 wire & put them in each hole with super thin AC . I just glued the bottom & then came along & straightened each one & glued the top. It worked great & then I painted the tops.

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  • From: Western No. Carolina
Posted by gene1 on Sunday, November 12, 2017 7:12 PM

  Bill, my wife doesn't know me when I come up.  I built a 10'x18'train layout in the garage, back in the 1980's & lost about 20#. I built it in 4 pieces & carried it in to our Living Room. I do get excited on some models.   This shows what a Living Room is for. For train layouts or ship models.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Western No. Carolina
Posted by gene1 on Sunday, November 12, 2017 7:01 PM

rcboater, I had looked at tha Steel Navy article. I have been looking for a good view of the Revell deck for the Alabama. one that shows the gun rails that are cast in. I figured they would be the same as the Kearsarge & that's wrong. Like waeship guy says, to look at the wood deck with the PE rails.

    I probably won't get into making a lot of changes on the Alabama as I don't like to get into lengthy projects. It's not that I think the reaper is after me, I just want to be building models when I hit 90. I remember my great grandmother at 90 & she seemed ancient & she hit 105. I feel about 14 when I'm building & that's what I want. I wonder what I could build at 104.

   I did prefigure what to do about slanting the masts. I would cut the section that goes into the deck & put a slant on it. Then I would drill a piece of large brass rod thru the mast sections & AC glue it in a good ways & then bend it to what I need. I do a lot like tha with brass rod. This one would be big. What do you all think?  I just thought that I would predrill the hole in the mast.

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Sunday, November 12, 2017 3:52 PM

Gene,

I'm amazed by how quickly you are building her while still doing an outstanding job!

Bill

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  • From: Western No. Carolina
Posted by gene1 on Sunday, November 12, 2017 1:42 PM

  I just took more pictures of my Kearsarge. Bill, it's more fun than ever.

Well I caan get back to building & watching the Phoenix Nascar race. I watched my first race, a quarter midget in about 1937 & have never stopped. 

  Jim, I got my Ertl/ Imai Spanish Galleon this morning. Ebay, $40 + shipping. 

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, November 12, 2017 12:41 PM

Here's another good one.

  https://hlj.com/product/AOS04710

They come up as either Monogram or Imai or Aoshima  from time to time.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, November 12, 2017 12:35 PM

I'd just forge ahead with what you've got. The Kearsarge builds up nicely, and is pretty convincing. The Alabama, well, it's a ship that's not well known in terms of it's design and detail (outside of the context of this model) and it would take a whole lot of work to get right.

I value my time at anywhere between $ 50 and $ 100/ hr during the period 9-5, M-F. Add the dozens of hours spent on the kit, the very high cost of all the AM stuff; and the two Blue Jacket kits begin to look like a bargain.

Just my two bits.

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Sunday, November 12, 2017 9:56 AM

I forgot to mention that Cottage also produces a set of the proper guns for the Kearsarge as carried in 1864.

Bill

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