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  • Member since
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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Friday, April 10, 2020 7:19 AM

Late to the party but here now.

Cool WIP. You have lots going on with all the AM. Much of the PE is some very intricate detail. Don't cha just love the way PE pops after finally shooting it with some grey primer?

All the info on 3d printed stuff, especially the bit about no oil-based paint is news to me, good info. PJ, the detail in your deck gun is really something, and you said the pic doesn't even do it justice. I'm sort of fired up to try some 3d printed AM now.

I haven't built a ship since the late 60's probably. You are tempting me here, Bish.

 

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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Friday, April 10, 2020 10:45 AM

Hi Bish:

      Yeah, the Airfix Boat is the older Standard Wheelhouse version. I have two in regular KreigsMarine fit and at least six more. Old storage damaged and glue Bombs for conversions to Yachts.

 The Hull caught my eye years ago. Shortened, it looks just like an older Matthews or Hunter hull, as well as a Grand Banks type hull. Great for conversion of the time because of the rounded bilge. 

      You are doing great on the P.E. That is certainly a learning curve isn't it? I did the LINDBERG Bismark with a Trumpeter set of P.E. . Talk about turning a "Sows Ear" into a Silk Purse!! Keep going, Oh, the Port prop spins to the right. The other two to the left.

      The layout is odd, But at the speed they traveled the last thing they wanted to worry about was "Prop Walk". If all three props spun the same way she would be a bear to handle at low speed because of the tendency of a boat to spin to the direction of the props. So any multi prop vessel ( Two and above ) have counter rotating props!

       As far as the center prop was concerned that is a design fluke . The Rounded bilge added other problems and the prop linked by ball and socket to the center rudder actually was a feature to stabilize the prop action and lessen wake! If you notice in the picture the center rudder is bigger and NOT streamlined either! Also that explains the step for causing the boat to rise up on plane faster. It created a " Hook " in the hull profile. Much like an upside down spoiler!

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Friday, April 10, 2020 12:59 PM

Thanks templar, it is a learning curve indeed. And the PE is more than i have ever used in one build. But i am taking this in stages taking breaks to bild other things.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Friday, April 10, 2020 1:03 PM

Thanks Greg. The PE really does make a huge differance once the paint is on.

I am really impressed with the 3D parts, i'll deffinetly be checking them out more often.

I've only done smaller scale less detailed ships before, the most intricate being the Airfix Belfast last year. I have a U-boat line dup for later this year which i don't think will be as challenging as this despite the bigger size. But i do have a 350 Bismarck in the stash with a similar PE set and that will be fun Bang Head

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Friday, April 10, 2020 1:09 PM

Thanks TB and thanks very much for that info. I was not even sure if that centre rudder was actually a rudder largely because its not streamlined. I am glad to could put me straight on that. And i never thought about the props neededing to rotate in different directions.

I know how armour works and i am pretty clued up on aircraft, but ships are a whole other matter. Thank you.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Friday, April 10, 2020 1:16 PM

Greg you can't go wrong with the 3D parts. The detail is incredible.

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Posted by docidle on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 11:36 PM

Your Boat is looking pretty sweet there Bish. You have got to be happy with the way it’s turning out.

Steve

       

 

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Wednesday, April 15, 2020 4:19 AM

Thanks Steve and yes i am. Got the white paint done on Monday, just leaving it another day or so before i handle it.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: brisbane australia
Posted by surfsup on Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:56 AM

Bish

Thanks Mark, glad i am not the only one. Any other issues i should be aware of.

Been slow going this past week, but i am hoping to get some good build time in tonight and tomorrow and catch up a bit.

 

 

Thanks Mate. The only other major improvement was to the Hull. I drilled out the Exhaust Ducts and backed them with Plasticard to give them some Depth. They just looked strange as they were on the Hull....Cheers mark

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, May 3, 2020 2:05 PM

Its been a while but i've been plugging away and the S-Boat is geting some where. While i was in the process of paiting the hull, i got the 3 guns put together, other than the torpedo's and racks, these were the last bits to assemble. These are the forward and centre 20mm guns, mainly kit parts with some PE additions. The centre gun, the one on the right, has a PE shieled and they all have metal barrels to replace the kit parts.

And this is the rear 37mm gun.Except for the round base, the kit gun is completly replaced though i did use the pastic hand wheels as the PE ones were just not right. There is a PE shield for this but i will be adding the 3D one. This alone took 3 nights to build.

And after a week or so of painting, waiting and masking, the hull was painted, all with colourcoats. This was followed by a couple of coats of future.

On the deck i used oils to lighten it in patches.

I started off weathering with the underside of the bridge and the torpedo tubes. Pics show these boats quite clean, so i just went with some light streaking and some scuffing and chipping.

The bridge was then fitted. This was a very tight fit, i had to do some clamping, which meant the ladders had to be removed.

And then this weekend, i finally got the decals on. I had bought 2 sets of Peddinghaus decals as one set had the individual boat marking and the otehr the Panther. But the panther they used was way to small, so that was a set i didn't need. So i used the Revell one, which has no detail on it, and painted that in with white and red Tamiya. Quite pleased with how they turned out. Today, it got 2 more coats of future to seal in the decals.

And on for some weathering and to get the deck fitted out.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Central Florida
Posted by plasticjunkie on Sunday, May 3, 2020 3:15 PM

Danmed that looks bad ass to the bone. Fantastic results Bish! I have my work cut out for me when I do mine, simply outstanding work Bish. Beer

It has taken me close to 10 minutes to post this thanks to the ever snail slow web site.Snail

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Posted by docidle on Sunday, May 3, 2020 11:15 PM

plasticjunkie

Danmed that looks bad ass to the bone. Fantastic results Bish! I have my work cut out for me when I do mine, simply outstanding work Bish. Beer

It has taken me close to 10 minutes to post this thanks to the ever snail slow web site.Snail

 

I have to agree wholeheartedly with PJ. That is sweet looking! I love the lightening you did on the deck. Most excellent. Did you use a White with a tad of Payne’s Grey added? 

I’m asking so that when I get my clear coat issue fixed, I was thinking of doing the exact thing on my PT.

Also, do you airbrush your Future or use a Sable brush? I think you told me me but I’m drawing a blank right now. 

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by BBorBust on Monday, May 4, 2020 12:25 AM

Beautifully done. Looks amazing!

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, May 4, 2020 2:59 AM

Thanks guys. Some of the pics i looked at, there seemed to be some fadeing on the deck. And i checked a couple of builds where they had done it as results of the salf spray, so that made sense.

Steve, i use the base paint, which is enamel, and mix with a drop of white oil paint, the 2 mix really well. That way you start with the right base but still get the advantage of oil paint. I did this in 3 stages going slightly lighter each time, trying to focus in areas of heavier footfall and well as were the salt spray might be more prominant.

I air brush it. I have not been useing future on my builds for a while, useing Alclad aqua instead. But i decided to use the future on this one.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, May 4, 2020 8:02 AM

That looks sick Bish. Too cool. Now you went and made me want one.

Steve

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Posted by Bish on Monday, May 4, 2020 9:09 AM

Thanks Stevem, and glad i could be of assistance Big Smile

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, May 4, 2020 9:31 AM

Hey Bish!

 Runnin a little late here. You are doing awesome on the guns. Even in plastic the kit guns are( after clean-up ) kits, in and of themselves. I had a friend that had a Vosper Built Air/Sea Rescue Boat. He chose to run without the center prop or engine. Lightened her up and maintenance was much simpler.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, May 4, 2020 3:49 PM

Thanks TB.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by TheMongoose on Monday, May 4, 2020 4:22 PM

Absolutely superb! The fading on the deck in spots looks just like it follows water washing over the deck and off again. You really made this look excellent.

In the pattern: Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! leaning out the list...NOT! Ha, added to it again - Viper MkVii, 1/32 THUD & F-15J plus a weekend madness build!

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Tuesday, May 5, 2020 2:54 PM

Thanks Mongoose. That is what i was trying to achieve but never haveing weathered a ship before, was not sure if i was doing the right think. I guess i was lucky it paid off.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

fox
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  • From: Narvon, Pa.
Posted by fox on Tuesday, May 5, 2020 5:13 PM

Just got caught up. Fantastic work Bish! Toast

Jim  Captain

Stay Safe.

PS - Just heard a voice behind me that said "You want to build one of those". Uh Oh.

 Main WIP: 

   On the Bench: Artesania Latina  (aka) Artists in the Latrine 1/75 Bluenose II

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  • From: Tempe AZ
Posted by docidle on Tuesday, May 5, 2020 10:01 PM

Bish

Thanks guys. Some of the pics i looked at, there seemed to be some fadeing on the deck. And i checked a couple of builds where they had done it as results of the salf spray, so that made sense.

Steve, i use the base paint, which is enamel, and mix with a drop of white oil paint, the 2 mix really well. That way you start with the right base but still get the advantage of oil paint. I did this in 3 stages going slightly lighter each time, trying to focus in areas of heavier footfall and well as were the salt spray might be more prominant.

I air brush it. I have not been useing future on my builds for a while, useing Alclad aqua instead. But i decided to use the future on this one.

 

Thanks for the technique Bish. I’m definitely going to try it out.

If I may ask you a couple more questions? Did you use any thinner for the mixing of the Colourcoats and oils or just used them straight out? Also, did you shoot the Future straight or thin that also? 

Steve

       

 

 

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  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:19 PM

Amazing detail.  Those gun positions could be a model all themselves.  Are you using a PE bending tool?  Just bought one myself.  This one is going to be a beauty.

Thanks,

John

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Wednesday, May 6, 2020 6:10 AM

docidle

 

 
Bish

Thanks guys. Some of the pics i looked at, there seemed to be some fadeing on the deck. And i checked a couple of builds where they had done it as results of the salf spray, so that made sense.

Steve, i use the base paint, which is enamel, and mix with a drop of white oil paint, the 2 mix really well. That way you start with the right base but still get the advantage of oil paint. I did this in 3 stages going slightly lighter each time, trying to focus in areas of heavier footfall and well as were the salt spray might be more prominant.

I air brush it. I have not been useing future on my builds for a while, useing Alclad aqua instead. But i decided to use the future on this one.

 

 

 

Thanks for the technique Bish. I’m definitely going to try it out.

If I may ask you a couple more questions? Did you use any thinner for the mixing of the Colourcoats and oils or just used them straight out? Also, did you shoot the Future straight or thin that also? 

Steve

 

Usually i don't add any thinners when dry brushing. But in this case i used a small drop of Humbrol enamel thinners. The future i shoot straight, i am not actually sure what you would thin that with.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Wednesday, May 6, 2020 6:12 AM

keavdog

Amazing detail.  Those gun positions could be a model all themselves.  Are you using a PE bending tool?  Just bought one myself.  This one is going to be a beauty.

 

Thanks John. I do have a bending tool, but in the few years i have had it, i have hardly used it. On this build i have not, i have a pair of smooth flat nosed pliers which i find much more useful for anything exceopt really large pieces.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Wednesday, May 6, 2020 6:12 AM

fox

Just got caught up. Fantastic work Bish! Toast

Jim  Captain

Stay Safe.

PS - Just heard a voice behind me that said "You want to build one of those". Uh Oh.

 

Thanks Jim. have to be careful of those voices, they can get you in all sorts of trouble. Wink

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

fox
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  • From: Narvon, Pa.
Posted by fox on Wednesday, May 6, 2020 12:57 PM

You got that right. 

Jim  Captain

Stay Safe.

 Main WIP: 

   On the Bench: Artesania Latina  (aka) Artists in the Latrine 1/75 Bluenose II

I keep hitting "escape", but I'm still here.

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Wednesday, May 6, 2020 6:43 PM

Bish, I gotta say that I'm loving this S-Boat!

Chad

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At the plate: 1/48 Airfix Bf109 & 1/35 Tamiya Famo

On deck: Who knows!

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, May 11, 2020 6:44 AM

Thanks Chad. With the hull weathered and the deck being fitted out, its really looking the part now.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, May 17, 2020 11:49 AM

Quick update, this should be the last one before i wrap this up. I got the sides weathered with a very light oil wash and then sealed with a flat coat. I forgot to take a proper pic of the side but its very subtle. I then started fitting it out with the wood deck, railings and a few other bits.

And this is whats left to be added. Every thing has been painted, weathered and mat coated before fitting.

And the last bits to be put together were the torpedo's, quite a bit of work on these. the propellers on each one had 8 small PE blades.

And the CMK mines.

Just got to get those painted up and primed and make up the dodgers for the side rails.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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