Dragon 1/350 Buchanan

Mansteins revenge wrote:

Cool...a lot of folks don't appreciate the hard-fought battles around the Solomons during '42-'43...I think mostly because it involved less glamourous ships than Carriers or Battleships...I have read of some hellacious night battles betwwen cruisers...and often the Americans got the bloodier nose for it...

I suggest you read up on the Battle For The Savo Straits. There was so many skirmishes involving destroyers that it's almost mindboggeling

gary

airtrans Crash wrote:

email sent today.. my Buchanan has been shipped!

 Got my second Buchanan Today. The Cyberhobby version hooked me with the last chance sale of the 1945 version. Got it from Dragon USA and they included the PE set . Was a pretty fair deal on the both as I recall.

I included some photo's of the package contents just to show this free extra gift that came with it.  I figure Manny had some input as it is a Can DO pocket Army Feldgendarmerie w/ dogs. So order a ship and get a 1/35 dog handler as a bonus. Has to be Manny if if only subliminally!

The quality of the figure and German shepard are vey good. Some one with diarama and painting skills might actually find these figures as a useful addition for parts poses extc. Too bad no one comes to mind.

I need to find the link to that camo mask that was for the earlier version. May be a useful short cut?

BTW Manny thanks for the Iron Bottom Sound scans they are very cool and great refs!

sfcmac wrote:

I need to find the link to that camo mask that was for the earlier version. May be a useful short cut?

Not for the '45 release; she was in Measure 22. The company in question is probably Gator's Masks.

Tracy White wrote:

sfcmac wrote: I need to find the link to that camo mask that was for the earlier version. May be a useful short cut? Not for the '45 release; she was in Measure 22. The company in question is probably Gator's Masks.

Thanks that is it they were out due to the storm as well.  I'm a sick fellow. I got both of them the 42 and 45 version.  I forgot I ordered the 45 version as Manny posted that link on the previous page and I couldn't resist. It is his fault totally! I can't be blamed for my own obcessions after all! Thanks!

Tracy White wrote:

Not for the '45 release; she was in Measure 22.

That should be Ms. 21

sfcmac wrote:

Tracy White wrote:  sfcmac wrote: I need to find the link to that camo mask that was for the earlier version. May be a useful short cut? Not for the '45 release; she was in Measure 22. The company in question is probably Gator's Masks. Thanks that is it they were out due to the storm as well.  I'm a sick fellow. I got both of them the 42 and 45 version.  I forgot I ordered the 45 version as Manny posted that link on the previous page and I couldn't resist. It is his fault totally! I can't be blamed for my own obcessions after all! Thanks!

This may have been pointed out before, but here it is again.  NAVSOURCE is ther best reference site available for US Naval ships.  This is the link to the high speed minesweeper page which includes the Benson/Livermore conversions (right column)

http://www.navsource.org/archives/11/09idx.htm

There is only one shot of the Emmons, at a distance.  It is from her service as a DD - not a DMS.   But peruse the rest of the list.  There are a couple of good shots of the Quick & Thompson which show the gear. 

The major change will be to delete the #4 5-inch gun and replace it with a cable drum.  Add some davits to handle the sweep gear and some other structures on the fantail.   The conversion will touch little of the area forward of the #4 gun.  Build that out of the box.   For the conversion, styrene sheet & strip stock will be your best bet.   Perhaps some repurposed model railroad items (my mind's eye goes to a PRR radio antenna set in PE which looks like a spoked wheel - great for the cable drum!)

airtrans Crash wrote:

im stuck on Okinawa so most things needed are ordered through mail.

You should be playing with the girls not models.

ps1scw wrote:

airtrans Crash wrote: im stuck on Okinawa so most things needed are ordered through mail. You should be playing with the girls not models.

EdGrune wrote:

NAVSOURCE is ther best reference site available for US Naval ships.

There is also DestroyerHistory.org as well, but in this case their page on the Emmons will not be of much help with details. There is plenty of history there though, so it's worth a link.

To paint her in Measure 12 Modified, White Ensign is the source for Deck Blue 20-B, Navy Blue 5-N, Haze Gray 5-H and Ocean Gray 5-O correct?

Tracy White wrote:

Not necessarily in that order (waterline up is 5-N, 5-O, 5-H), but yes.

Overall Haze Gray w/Navy Blue and Ocean Gray Camo?

 Hey Y'all just trying to keep updated on this kit! I think I have received the last thing I can get for this ship which was the mask I had ask about earlier. Been posting pics of whatever I get so you can get an idea of what it is.  So here ya go.

I don't know how sucessful I was basically the the picture on the paper has been laser cut onto the vinyl sheet. Instructions are included on application and removal using a Star and Bar mask as an example. Suggest using a tackey tape to place onto the model. Looks tricky but claims it is easy.  Nothing on the colors or what mask needs removed in what order to get the pattern. Gotta figure that out for yourself. Basically you get a laser cut vinyl sticker which is what I expected it to be.

 Hope this helps you all decide what you need to complete this ship.

Wingnut ! Get that elbow fixed and mended! Feels like one of our first string quarterbacks is on the injured reserve list!  Get well soon !

Here is a picture from the In Action Book. May help with the color question.

airtrans Crash wrote:

my Buchanan is here! wow, I am not a ship guy so I was taken aback at how small a 1/350 scale destroyer is. now to figure how to transform this sucker into the USS Emmons, fast mine sweeper destroyed by 5 Kamikazis during the battle of Okinawa

You may have these already but I figured Hey While Im in the mode!

Manny I have been looking for that Hipper scheme for ya too!

sfcmac wrote:

airtrans Crash wrote: my Buchanan is here! wow, I am not a ship guy so I was taken aback at how small a 1/350 scale destroyer is. now to figure how to transform this sucker into the USS Emmons, fast mine sweeper destroyed by 5 Kamikazis during the battle of Okinawa You may have these already but I figured Hey While Im in the mode! Manny I have been looking for that Hipper scheme for ya too!

Here is her Superstructure at 140 below :(

and here is my mockup progression, nothing glued down to the deck yet... the PE antenna was a Pain!

Aaron, I am working on getting the wing better.  Doc said its a loooong process.

If I were you, I would color the paper camo with thecorrect colors then figure out a legend for the pattern... 1 color is left hash marks, another color is dots...whetever.  Then transfer those patterns to the mask sheet.  Did you see what Chukw did to his helldiver masks?  He covered the sheet with pencil then wiped it off and it outlined each individual mask.Looks like a good idea here too.

Did you say where you got the mask set?  if you did I missed it.

Tracy White wrote:

sfcmac wrote: I need to find the link to that camo mask that was for the earlier version. May be a useful short cut? Not for the '45 release; she was in Measure 22. The company in question is probably Gator's Masks.

 Here ya go Wingnut! Tracy reposted this for me earlier and I ordered it.  Yeah Chuck used pastel dust didn't he. To outline the pattern?  I'll go back and check.  I feel for you and that elbow. Don't realize how much you use them till ya can't.

Get well! Heal quick cuz I sez so!

That is a fine idea about marking them as well, As above the size of this ship is really not very large and it looks to be brain surgery in some area's.  I still want to see Manny detail those figures!

I have a pretty complete of to be built 1/350 Destroyers now. I think it is a sickness.

I forgot the Gator company with the mask is owned by a sign maker by trade.  He has some hints about appling the mask using tacky tape? Anyone ever use this method?

Gator's mask

http://gatorsmask.com/

350 a sickness? Let me enable you a bit....

http://www.modelshipwrights.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=4447

http://www.modelshipwrights.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=127375&page=1

http://www.modelshipwrights.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=4452

http://www.modelshipwrights.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=4443

 Why thank you JMart! There are indeed many uses for the larger scale ships 1/350 sickness!

One of my favorites is when my wife says I have too many models is to seal her in the bathroom with them. You can leave a slot to pass food through using the destroyer boxes. Your choice.

lol you have me beat! Funny, I had 2-3 350s in the stand-alone closet I use for my Navy uniforms (including the Nagato and a carrier). Wife found them last week, when she was helping me get my blues ready....  oopsie! :) 

and if you dont know how to display all your 350s, here is an idea...

http://www.modelshipwrights.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=126670&page=1