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Posted by airtrans Crash on Friday, November 7, 2008 8:42 AM

anyone else building their buchanan?

the 20mm AA guns are tiny as heck and are a pain!

 A man's country is not a certain area of land, of mountains, rivers, and woods, but it is a principle; and patriotism is loyalty to that principle. ~George William Curtis
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Posted by ModelWarships on Friday, November 7, 2008 11:50 AM
I built several test versions of the kit. My advice if you just want a nice gun without being a detail nut is to leave off the ammo can and PE parts. You will still have an amazing little gun and most of us will not be able to see the missing parts without putting on our glasses. Case in point is Tom Foti's build in the reviews section.

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Tuesday, November 11, 2008 4:43 PM

 ModelWarships wrote:
I built several test versions of the kit. My advice if you just want a nice gun without being a detail nut is to leave off the ammo can and PE parts. You will still have an amazing little gun and most of us will not be able to see the missing parts without putting on our glasses. Case in point is Tom Foti's build in the reviews section.
after having two of the ammo cans fly off into the abyss I said screw it, all the PE is on, just not that cursed can.

I have the decking glued to the hull and am going to paint it up a bit.

 A man's country is not a certain area of land, of mountains, rivers, and woods, but it is a principle; and patriotism is loyalty to that principle. ~George William Curtis
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Posted by airtrans Crash on Saturday, November 22, 2008 7:50 PM

wow, here is the best I can get for pictures, I need to learn how to use my fancy camera on the Macro scale

 

 

 A man's country is not a certain area of land, of mountains, rivers, and woods, but it is a principle; and patriotism is loyalty to that principle. ~George William Curtis
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Dragon 1/350 Buchanan, photo etch parts?
Posted by sabreking on Sunday, November 23, 2008 12:55 PM

I need to know if any after market photo etch parts have been released for USS Buchanan, such as railings. If so, where can I find them? Thanks for reading.

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Posted by EdGrune on Sunday, November 23, 2008 2:13 PM
 sabreking wrote:

I need to know if any after market photo etch parts have been released for USS Buchanan, such as railings. If so, where can I find them? Thanks for reading.

Gold Medal Models has made a set for the Buchanan.  It has the

http://www.goldmm.com/ships/gms350-45.htm

Dragon/Cyberhobby also makes a set of railings & MK37 radar array to go with the Dragon kit.

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Sunday, November 23, 2008 2:31 PM
sweet,I am going to have to get that for myself.
 A man's country is not a certain area of land, of mountains, rivers, and woods, but it is a principle; and patriotism is loyalty to that principle. ~George William Curtis
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Posted by Tracy White on Sunday, November 23, 2008 6:18 PM
I've got two of the things and while more expensive than the CyberHobby set, they are more extensive and much crisper in their detail

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Monday, November 24, 2008 3:33 AM
$32.. ouch. lol. I'll have to sweet talk my wife into that
 A man's country is not a certain area of land, of mountains, rivers, and woods, but it is a principle; and patriotism is loyalty to that principle. ~George William Curtis
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 24, 2008 7:19 AM
 airtrans Crash wrote:

wow, here is the best I can get for pictures, I need to learn how to use my fancy camera on the Macro scale

 

 

Wow...are those the three-inch guns?
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Posted by airtrans Crash on Monday, November 24, 2008 7:22 AM
negative, they are the 40 mm bofors
 A man's country is not a certain area of land, of mountains, rivers, and woods, but it is a principle; and patriotism is loyalty to that principle. ~George William Curtis
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, November 24, 2008 9:46 AM
 airtrans Crash wrote:
negative, they are the 40 mm bofors
Well, they rock...single barrell bofors?
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Posted by EdGrune on Monday, November 24, 2008 9:51 AM

Look again more closely.  They're twins.   The one to the right is elevated such that the two barrels appear to align as one, but there are two muzzle flares.   The left one is not elevated as much and shows the split between the barrels better

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Monday, November 24, 2008 11:09 PM
 EdGrune wrote:

Look again more closely.  They're twins.   The one to the right is elevated such that the two barrels appear to align as one, but there are two muzzle flares.   The left one is not elevated as much and shows the split between the barrels better

 

I tried to set them the way they are actually sitting on the Emmons at 130 ft below

 A man's country is not a certain area of land, of mountains, rivers, and woods, but it is a principle; and patriotism is loyalty to that principle. ~George William Curtis
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Posted by Kenny Loup on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:44 AM

Gator's masks now come like this and will have an option to have the color seperated, which will add to the cost:

 

Color seperated option:

 

 

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Posted by EdGrune on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:58 AM

I posted earlier in response to a question by saberking ...

 EdGrune wrote:
 sabreking wrote:

I need to know if any after market photo etch parts have been released for USS Buchanan, such as railings. If so, where can I find them? Thanks for reading.

Gold Medal Models has made a set for the Buchanan ... 

<<SNIP>>

In addition Tom's Modelworks has labeled their Buckley set #3558 was applicable for the Buchanan also.

Tom Harrison posted on SteelNavy that he was having a sale on his photoetched products until the end of the year

http://www.tomsmodelworks.com/catalog/

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Posted by squeakie on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 11:36 AM
 sfcmac wrote:

 Hey Y'all just trying to keep updated on this kit! I think I have received the last thing I can get for this ship which was the mask I had ask about earlier. Been posting pics of whatever I get so you can get an idea of what it is.  So here ya go.

I don't know how sucessful I was basically the the picture on the paper has been laser cut onto the vinyl sheet. Instructions are included on application and removal using a Star and Bar mask as an example. Suggest using a tackey tape to place onto the model. Looks tricky but claims it is easy.  Nothing on the colors or what mask needs removed in what order to get the pattern. Gotta figure that out for yourself. Basically you get a laser cut vinyl sticker which is what I expected it to be.

 Hope this helps you all decide what you need to complete this ship.

Wingnut ! Get that elbow fixed and mended! Feels like one of our first string quarterbacks is on the injured reserve list!  Get well soon !

Here is a picture from the In Action Book. May help with the color question.

I found a Buchanan in my local LHS a few days ago, and been thinking about buying. But after looking at this, I think I want it. Where did you happen to find the mask? Also is the camo pattern hard edged? Only thing that bothers me about the ship in that scale is the size of it and my old eyes.

gary

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Posted by sfcmac on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 3:24 PM
 JMart wrote:

Gator's mask

http://gatorsmask.com/

350 a sickness? Let me enable you a bit....

http://www.modelshipwrights.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=4447

http://www.modelshipwrights.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=127375&page=1

http://www.modelshipwrights.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=4452

http://www.modelshipwrights.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=4443

 

 

Here is the link Squeakie! The Gator Mask got hit pretty hard by Ike but I think they are back up and running! They were just a bit delayed in sending mine but got it here. They should be back on track now. The owner makes his living making signs. The colored version may not be a bad idea especially given the size and our old eyes. Confused [%-)]

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Wednesday, November 26, 2008 8:23 PM

for those that cannot see the lines on the Gator mask I saw in another thread that someone had taken a soft pencil or a crayon and rubbed in on the mask, then wiped it off... the graphite or crayon stayed in the cracks, making them more visible.

 

mine will be in measure 22 so I dont need to use a mask..

 

lets see some progress pictures!

 A man's country is not a certain area of land, of mountains, rivers, and woods, but it is a principle; and patriotism is loyalty to that principle. ~George William Curtis
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Posted by ModelWarships on Tuesday, December 2, 2008 10:00 AM
Here is a picture from the In Action Book. May help with the color question.

 Please note that the image shown in the In Action book is not the Buchanan. It is simply a generic DD painted to look like the Buchanan. Some of the most obvious errors include the deckhouse under the bridge lacks the steamlined front that should extend beyond the front of the bridge, the exposed aft funnel trunking was covered on the Buchanan, and the searchlight platform is too short. Those are the most obvious errors, but there are many more. If you need good photos of the Buchanan, Classic Warships has a new book due out in a couple of months on the Buchanan. It will include full color views of the camo pattern.

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 8, 2008 7:58 AM
Does this kit have the waterline and full-hull option?
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Posted by EdGrune on Monday, December 8, 2008 8:35 AM

Yes hull bottom is molded separately from hull.   Bottom is molded same color as rest of parts -- not in red plastic

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Monday, December 8, 2008 8:03 PM

  I was wondering if the this kit could be used to make the USS Johnston? Im not a ship builder but was facinated with her after watching(Dog Fights) what her Capt. did at the battle of Leyte Gulf.

 

thank you 

Dustin

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Posted by EdGrune on Monday, December 8, 2008 8:13 PM
 williamsfw28 wrote:

  I was wondering if the this kit could be used to make the USS Johnston? Im not a ship builder but was facinated with her after watching(Dog Fights) what her Capt. did at the battle of Layette Gulf.

 

thank you 

No, the Johnston of the Battle of Samar was a square-bridge Fletcher.   Your choice in 1:350 scale-styrene is the Trumpeter 'The Sullivans'.  There are problems with the secondary armament - and the non-skid walkways are more like concrete sidewalks than rubber bath mats.  The Tamiya 1:350 scale Fletcher is a round-bridge variant.

The Laffey is a Benson.  It along with the Gleaves (i.e. Buchanan) was the class which preceeded the Fletchers.   The Benson/Gleaves had a break in the deck levels.   The Fletcher's deck was all one level.

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Monday, December 8, 2008 8:35 PM
I was affraid it was going to be a no,  I have both of those kits but at this stage of the game not looking to bash the two kits together.  I still want the Dragon kit so the Buchanan it is.

Dustin

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Posted by ps1scw on Monday, December 8, 2008 9:44 PM
 EdGrune wrote:
 williamsfw28 wrote:

  I was wondering if the this kit could be used to make the USS Johnston? Im not a ship builder but was facinated with her after watching(Dog Fights) what her Capt. did at the battle of Layette Gulf.

 

thank you 

No, the Johnston of the Battle of Samar was a square-bridge Fletcher.   Your choice in 1:350 scale-styrene is the Trumpeter 'The Sullivans'.  There are problems with the secondary armament - and the non-skid walkways are more like concrete sidewalks than rubber bath mats.  The Tamiya 1:350 scale Fletcher is a round-bridge variant.

The Laffey is a Benson.  It along with the Gleaves (i.e. Buchanan) was the class which preceeded the Fletchers.   The Benson/Gleaves had a break in the deck levels.   The Fletcher's deck was all one level.

Wow, sounds like if you like WWII U.S. Navy Destroyers you'll be in Heaven with all these choices. 

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Posted by Tracy White on Monday, December 8, 2008 10:49 PM

 williamsfw28 wrote:
I was affraid it was going to be a no,  I have both of those kits but at this stage of the game not looking to bash the two kits together.  I still want the Dragon kit so the Buchanan it is.

You can bash the two together, a company called L'arsenal also has an update/accurizing set you can purchase as well, albeit I'm not sure if it gives you the exact details for the fit you'd need.... 

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Posted by JMart on Friday, December 12, 2008 3:37 PM

Is the Cyberhobby PE fret any good? I mean, its just 2$ bundled up but wondering if you need anything else, or just generic WW2 DD ladders/railings and such.

 

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Friday, December 12, 2008 3:50 PM
 I got the Cyber Hobby Upgrade with both my kits. I think it is a good deal. The radar is well done and the railings top notch. Not as crazy as the other pricy one that was linked to here but with in my skill level. From what I have heard dealing with the tiny PE gun parts is like brain surgery.
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Posted by Jester75 on Friday, December 12, 2008 4:27 PM
After reading this thread in its entirety, my Buchanan is on the way along with the $2.00 Cyber-Hobby PE set from Dragon USA!! Looking forward to finding this one sitting on the doorstep!!

Eric

 

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