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I did a bad thing to my airbrush.. Can it be saved?

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  • Member since
    May 2013
  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Friday, September 16, 2016 9:31 PM

Paul, you're getting great advice from Patrick and guru Don. Great progress, keep it up!

Just a quick 2 more cents; Model Color isn't the best for airbrushing. It works but has to be thinned very heavily and that would scare me with the Windex. Glad the Windex trick worked, at least you proved something.

I love the Keys. You're isolated, but UPS and the USPS can find you as easily as me Smile, so if you feel like it opt for a bottle or 3 of Model Air and a couple bottles of thinner (you need none with Model Air, really).

If you want to proceed with Vallejo, that is.....

  • Member since
    August 2016
  • From: Marathon, Florida Keys
Posted by PaulieF on Saturday, September 17, 2016 6:44 AM

Greg

Paul, you're getting great advice from Patrick and guru Don. Great progress, keep it up!

Just a quick 2 more cents; Model Color isn't the best for airbrushing. It works but has to be thinned very heavily and that would scare me with the Windex. Glad the Windex trick worked, at least you proved something.

I love the Keys. You're isolated, but UPS and the USPS can find you as easily as me Smile, so if you feel like it opt for a bottle or 3 of Model Air and a couple bottles of thinner (you need none with Model Air, really).

If you want to proceed with Vallejo, that is.....

 

 
Greg, I love the Keys too! Its like Im on vacation forever! Anyways, I will defintely get the Model Air paints as you suggest. I bought so many Model Color paints when I was up in Miami (just to stock up) because I didnt know better. Ill use up what I have for my WWII figures and switch over. 

I've been known to kiss a fish or two, with a little bit of tongue. Don't judge me. 


On the bench: Hasegawa BF109E

In the hanger: 1/48 Tamiya De Havilland Mosquito

In the trash: Revell 1/48 B-25J Mitchell

 

  • Member since
    August 2016
  • From: Marathon, Florida Keys
Posted by PaulieF on Saturday, September 17, 2016 6:53 AM

patrick206

Actually your airbrush does have that bit, pictured between the handle and body. It's the teflon bearing, installed in the metal fixture, (TINY."

If you take the guts completely out of the body, look in the back of the airbrush with a small light. At the end of the larger body chamber, (looking forward,) you'll see the small hole that the needle passes through. A light held at the front of the body will illuminate the hole also.

There is a slot meant for a very small slotted screwdiver, back that out and the fixture comes free, the very small, white teflon bearing is inside that. A good soak in lacquer thinner or acetone will start to dissolve it, then you can use the needle to pass back and forth to clean it up.

To re-install the bearing assembly, start it back into the threads of the airbrush using a toothpick, be positive you don't have it cross threaded, before cinching it down with the scredriver. When you do have it seated, the adjustments are quite sensitive. You only want to feel a minor drag on the needle, as you check for proper fit, small turns of the screwdriver work best.

Have you checked "Don's airbrush tips" site yet????

Keep on truckin,' it sounds like your getting closer. You'll feel a real sense of accomplishment when you get it sorted properly, and you'll for sure know your VL much better.

Patrick

 

 

THanks for all your help, Patrick. I certainly more educated about this airbrush now for sure. And I A LOT more educated on Paints and thinners. Knowing more about the that aspect will probably save me tons of headaches with my airbrush..

I've been known to kiss a fish or two, with a little bit of tongue. Don't judge me. 


On the bench: Hasegawa BF109E

In the hanger: 1/48 Tamiya De Havilland Mosquito

In the trash: Revell 1/48 B-25J Mitchell

 

  • Member since
    May 2013
  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:57 AM

Sounds like a good plan, Paul.

Once you have the proper thinner, and some experience spraying Model Air, you should be able to thin the Model Color with the proprietary Vallejo Airbrush thinner and make it work ok (especially since you already accomplished that with the , er, ah, Windex (sorry, Don, I don't like playing Mr Wizard with paints either, we agree).

One more hint if you're placing an online order anyway; consider buying a bottle or two of the relatively new Vallejo Flow Improver.

If you decide to proceed forward with Vallejo you may start noticing the tip of your airbrush drying out (it's called dry tip, a common trouble with acrylics). It's very annoying and has caused folk to abandon spraying Vallejo. The aforementioned new product virtually eliminates the trouble. A drop or two is all it takes.

  • Member since
    August 2016
  • From: Marathon, Florida Keys
Posted by PaulieF on Saturday, September 17, 2016 12:51 PM

I really like the AK Interactuive and model masters (I wish they came in a squeeze bottle though and bigger portions) I think Vallejo has a great selection in colors And seem to be easier to obtain over the AK PAINTS.. Honestly, I think the model master paints spray the best, with my limited knowledge. I was using those with the AK thinner and it was working very well when I first started. 

Youll probably say to use Modeal Master thinner but is there an alternative to that.. I seem to go through a lot of thinner and a small tiny container of thinner doesn't last but a few days.. Now, I can stretch out a big bottle of windex  a month!! Lol..

what do you think??

 

I've been known to kiss a fish or two, with a little bit of tongue. Don't judge me. 


On the bench: Hasegawa BF109E

In the hanger: 1/48 Tamiya De Havilland Mosquito

In the trash: Revell 1/48 B-25J Mitchell

 

  • Member since
    May 2013
  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Saturday, September 17, 2016 7:19 PM

I think I'd best let someone else comment on thinning Model Master paint with other than their acrylic airbrush thinner as I don't have much experience with MM acryls.

I wonder why you are going through so much thinner?

  • Member since
    January 2013
Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Saturday, September 17, 2016 8:15 PM

One simple tip and it's worth repeating. NEVER thin Vallejo paints with thinner that contain alcohol. As you have experienced it does leave a gummy mess.

 

I use Model Master acrylics and I thin using Testors Universal thinner.

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