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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, November 8, 2012 7:07 PM

mikeymize

  Hi all, in between work and sleep managed to get some of the front office done. Used the MM Russian interior color and am relatively happy with it. Also, I got a little something in the mail today which made me very happyBig Smile Included is a pic of that and what I had been using. I'll still use the cheap one as needed or at least till I get somewhat proficient with my beloved Badger Patriot. I'm looking forward to doing so many schemes that I was unable to before. Time for me to catch up on my reading; enjoy the pics!

Looks nice, Mike! And congratulations on the new air brush! Balloons

Russ

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, November 8, 2012 7:30 PM

Hey Russ, I've been looking at that spoiler shot you provided:

 What I am seeing is that the top of each feather on the spoiler has a re-enforcement, like a small bubble ridge that goes from the back edge up past the feather root and a few inches back from that. Maybe to stop those feathers from ripping off?

you can see the arch and shadows of those ridges if you blow up the photo.

Am I seeing things?

Dom

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, November 8, 2012 8:05 PM

Bockscar

Hey Russ, I've been looking at that spoiler shot you provided:

 What I am seeing is that the top of each feather on the spoiler has a re-enforcement, like a small bubble ridge that goes from the back edge up past the feather root and a few inches back from that. Maybe to stop those feathers from ripping off?

you can see the arch and shadows of those ridges if you blow up the photo.

Am I seeing things?

Dom

No, no, no.  I think you are way off base there Dom.  I think they are back scratchers!  Big Smile 

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, November 8, 2012 8:17 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Bockscar

Hey Russ, I've been looking at that spoiler shot you provided:

 What I am seeing is that the top of each feather on the spoiler has a re-enforcement, like a small bubble ridge that goes from the back edge up past the feather root and a few inches back from that. Maybe to stop those feathers from ripping off?

you can see the arch and shadows of those ridges if you blow up the photo.

Am I seeing things?

Dom

No, no, no.  I think you are way off base there Dom.  I think they are back scratchers!  Big Smile 

Ken

Errrr, that's very embarrassing Ken;

I thought I was the only one who used 'em fer that!Big Smile

See Themza' onez' bent up an' all like that?

they'za the wons' wot hit warts.....Ick!Big Smile

Hey:

There's a great shot of the upward wing flex:

Dom

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, November 8, 2012 8:19 PM

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, November 8, 2012 8:22 PM

Big Brother:

http://rbogash.com/B47.html

Dom

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, November 8, 2012 8:52 PM

Hey Ken:

I cut n' pasted a few of the above entries into Russ's  

1/72 B-52D with Big Belly Mod, Operation Arc Light

thread, some contained your commentary, I hope that is okay.

Dom

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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, November 8, 2012 8:55 PM

Dom,

It does look like they are rounded toward the center. This may be a later modification possibly to strengthen the feathers. So maybe tapering them isn't so far from real world.

Russ

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:18 PM

Striker8241

Dom,

It does look like they are rounded toward the center. This may be a later modification possibly to strengthen the feathers. So maybe tapering them isn't so far from real world.

Russ

Russ:

i think you got it right on both counts. Given the shots above, they must have tapered them.

They may even have put those mod reinforcements on to prevent the feathers from over stressing to extend the life of older birds.

I any case, you wouldn't want to build a gross of those tiny little bumps then glue all those little bastiges in place,

you would be blind before your time.Blind Fold

Dom

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Posted by Striker8241 on Thursday, November 8, 2012 10:03 PM

Hey Guys,

Here's a really interesting account by a test pilot of flying the B-52 during flight test and development. It gives some insight into how cantankerous the plane was.

www.jetbombers.com/chapter5.html

The guy writes with a unassuming humerous style and some of the things he describes are hilarious.

Russ

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, November 9, 2012 5:18 AM

Bockscar

Hey Ken:

I cut n' pasted a few of the above entries into Russ's  

1/72 B-52D with Big Belly Mod, Operation Arc Light

thread, some contained your commentary, I hope that is okay.

Dom

Of course it is okay Dom!  No problem!  Smile 

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, November 9, 2012 10:24 AM

B-52D outriggers:

I've never been happy with the way they did the outrigger wheels on this model - the wheels are molded together with the strut yokes. I know they did this for strength so the outriggers could support the pressure from the sloped wings. Any type of plastic axel that could support the weight would have to be oversized - anything smaller would break.

 I decided to remedy the problem. I happened to have the main gear wheels from an old 1/72 F-4 model that were just about the right diameter. They are a little thick, but I you can't have everything Smile.

 For the axels, I used a common sewing pin. I inserted a pin through each wheel with the head on the outside hub and glued it into the wheel, making sure the pin was perpendicular to the wheel all around.

Next, I carefully cut away the wheels from around the yokes. If you use a spru cutter, be careful not to deform the yoke. Then I cleaned out and sanded the yokes. I drilled a hole the size of the pin through each yoke at the axel point.

 

NOTE: If you plan to flatten your wheels, do not glue them to the struts at this time. Wait until the model is ready to stand on its feet and then attach the wheels so you can match the flat spot to the tilt of the wings.

Once the glue around the pin is hardened, insert each wheel through the hole in the axel and cut off the excess pin, then glue it in place. I also plan to glue the inside of the wheel to the strut for added strength. You will also need to file down and finish the hub on the outside of the yoke.

 Cheers,

Russ

 

Tags: B-52D , gear , outrigger

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, November 9, 2012 1:51 PM

Russ: all that work looks awesome!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, November 9, 2012 3:20 PM

Thanks, Cliff! Big Smile

 

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Posted by Sparrowhyperion on Friday, November 9, 2012 3:41 PM

Hi folks.

Sorry I have not been on for the last few days.  I made a huge mistake Tuesday when I took my wife to McDonalds for our anniversary.  I wasn't yet 100% and I got to spend the last few days even worse than I was before.  Today is the first time I have felt like even getting out of bed.

I haven't been able to get any work done on the Phantom yet.  And thanks to one of my wife's cat, it may be a while before I do.  Lets just say she ate too much and then had to , well you know...  All over the box to my 1/32 Hasegawa P-51D kit.  So I decided I better do that one before the parts all get lost on me.  I really wasn't ready for this one, and I'm going to have to substitute colors for some of the recommended ones, but at least it's large scale.  I'll be starting it as soon as I am able to stay up for more than 30 minutes without having to lie down again.  I have got to get rid of this bug before next Tuesday or I won't be able to do anything for my Daughter's Bday.  I am thinking of possibly snagging her an NOS Aurora kit of Godzilla that I saw on eBay.  The one with the glow in the dark parts option.  I'll have to see how much it gets to be on eBay.  She had mentioned maybe wanting to start her own build on FSM for what she called the "Mutant Monster Mania Group Build".  So if I can snag it for her, she will be all set.  She's been a little angel all week while I have been sick.  Of course I don't know if it's that she is genuinely worried about me, being a teen and all; or if it's just advance sucking up for her Bday and Xmas...  LOL

I'll try and stay in touch as much as possible.  I should have some P51 work done in a few days.

Rich

In the Hangar: 1/48 Hobby Boss F/A-18D RAAF Hornet,

On the Tarmac:  F4U-1D RNZAF Corsair 1/48 Scale.

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Posted by Bockscar on Friday, November 9, 2012 5:54 PM

Rich:

Very nasty situation bud, sorry to her you've been so sick.

There's a new Mechano kit out there  the "Cat Harvestor"

maybe should take a look out for that for Christmas.

Looking forward to the P-51, take it easy pal,

Dom

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Posted by Bockscar on Friday, November 9, 2012 5:59 PM

Striker8241

B-52D outriggers:

I've never been happy with the way they did the outrigger wheels on this model - the wheels are molded together with the strut yokes. I know they did this for strength so the outriggers could support the pressure from the sloped wings. Any type of plastic axel that could support the weight would have to be oversized - anything smaller would break.

Once the glue around the pin is hardened, insert each wheel through the hole in the axel and cut off the excess pin, then glue it in place. I also plan to glue the inside of the wheel to the strut for added strength. You will also need to file down and finish the hub on the outside of the yoke.

 Cheers,

Russ

Nice work there Russ!Yes

They never painted those outriggers up in Hawaiian colours,

did they?Smile

I don't think anyone other than the super-geeks will spot they

are from a 1/72 F-4. By the way, nice drilling job there,

yeah, you get a pass for Grade 9 shop pal!!!GeekedCool

Dom

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, November 9, 2012 6:44 PM

Striker8241

B-52D outriggers:

I've never been happy with the way they did the outrigger wheels on this model - the wheels are molded together with the strut yokes. I know they did this for strength so the outriggers could support the pressure from the sloped wings. Any type of plastic axel that could support the weight would have to be oversized - anything smaller would break.

 I decided to remedy the problem. I happened to have the main gear wheels from an old 1/72 F-4 model that were just about the right diameter. They are a little thick, but I you can't have everything Smile.

 For the axels, I used a common sewing pin. I inserted a pin through each wheel with the head on the outside hub and glued it into the wheel, making sure the pin was perpendicular to the wheel all around.

 

Next, I carefully cut away the wheels from around the yokes. If you use a spru cutter, be careful not to deform the yoke. Then I cleaned out and sanded the yokes. I drilled a hole the size of the pin through each yoke at the axel point.

 

NOTE: If you plan to flatten your wheels, do not glue them to the struts at this time. Wait until the model is ready to stand on its feet and then attach the wheels so you can match the flat spot to the tilt of the wings.

Once the glue around the pin is hardened, insert each wheel through the hole in the axel and cut off the excess pin, then glue it in place. I also plan to glue the inside of the wheel to the strut for added strength. You will also need to file down and finish the hub on the outside of the yoke.

 Cheers,

Russ

 

Nice work once again Russ!  You are doing one heck of a job scratching out those parts!  Yes  Yes 

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, November 9, 2012 7:32 PM

Thanks, Ken! I really appreciate the good words!

Russ

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Friday, November 9, 2012 7:50 PM

Hey, an added bonus for Russ,

the pin gives the wheel a chrome hubcap!Smile

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Posted by Striker8241 on Friday, November 9, 2012 8:37 PM

Bockscar

Hey, an added bonus for Russ,

the pin gives the wheel a chrome hubcap!Smile

Yup. Fits right in with the late 50's Big Smile Reminds me of my first car - a Pontiac sedan.  0-60 in December...

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Friday, November 9, 2012 10:28 PM

Striker8241

Bockscar

Hey, an added bonus for Russ,

the pin gives the wheel a chrome hubcap!Smile

Yup. Fits right in with the late 50's Big Smile Reminds me of my first car - a Pontiac sedan.  0-60 in December...

Well russ,

We, ,,,,i.e. you, Rich, Ken, and myself, have a few spark plugs in common....lol

My first ride was a Chevy Biscayne Station Wagon (one custom option down from Bel Air)

not a Woody, but a Sleeper all the same: 427, Rochester Quadra-jet, 400 hp, 375 torque, 10.25:1 compression, Posi-Track, Munci-Michigan Trani......lol.....burned tread in 4 gears.....(a bit of tar on the pavement...ahem....)

Aaarf...I don't even have enough hormones to deal with the octane that b***h burned...lol....

Hey, I survived my first ride!....lol....SurpriseStick out tongueIndifferent

Dom

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Posted by Bockscar on Saturday, November 10, 2012 2:06 AM

Hey guys, forgive me for the note:

I happen to love nuke, for many reasons:

ClownClownClown

ClownClownClown

Yeah, that's what I grew up on.ClownClownClown

Gosh,,,,,You can't get a decent description of nuclear war anymore on the web, seems like it has all been shut down.

can i get French Fries with that? SuperSized?

MMMMM....warm my toootsies on that bonfire........waiting for Xclaus to drop a few,...errr....xgifts...lol...

PHhht..PHhht...bring it on.......

That's what we fought.

Forget it guys,,,,,,

Or Nought.

November 11.

Cometh.

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Posted by Bockscar on Saturday, November 10, 2012 2:55 AM

This is what Vladimir, your NEW EFFECTIVE boss, is sending me for Xmas...lol....PropellerClownChef

he didn't send me any glue, or any other ordnance commrades.....

but i am happy to build it in this post barbeque world....lol....

This is the monster i always feared as a 'yut', and gosh knows it is not a popular subject.

But as a Cold War baby, i think putting it up there in the ceiling is a great memorial to all of those whom served to protect us.

Dom

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Posted by Bockscar on Saturday, November 10, 2012 3:22 AM

So, How much styrene would it take to make a nice

visage of this guy:

AAARffffff......is he uglier than me, or what....lol.....none of you have to answer that.....lol......

Dom

P S : Yes, I sanded a ton of putty off the wings tonight, and I'm hoping i can keep them looking authentic and within tolerance.

I think i need a very fine scribe line for the re-scribes.

Russ's kit has finely sanded inscribed lines, and i wonder if i should re-scribe the entire BUFF.

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Posted by Striker8241 on Saturday, November 10, 2012 7:53 AM

Bockscar

Hey guys, forgive me for the note:

I happen to love nuke, for many reasons:

Yeah, that's what I grew up on.ClownClownClown

Gosh,,,,,You can't get a decent description of nuclear war anymore on the web, seems like it has all been shut down.

can i get French Fries with that? SuperSized?

MMMMM....warm my toootsies on that bonfire........waiting for Xclaus to drop a few,...errr....xgifts...lol...

 

Lol Dom!  What in the world are you sprinkling on your cornflakes these days ???!!  Surprise Stick out tongue Propeller

BTW, I remember those days, bro, and I'm happy not to read any descriptions of that kind of bonfire Big Smile.

 

That TU is awesome! I think it's one of the most beautiful planes ever built. BTW, notice the interesting similiarity to the Super Connie...? Big Smile

Russ

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Saturday, November 10, 2012 8:13 AM

Bockscar

Well russ,

We, ,,,,i.e. you, Rich, Ken, and myself, have a few spark plugs in common....lol

My first ride was a Chevy Biscayne Station Wagon (one custom option down from Bel Air)

not a Woody, but a Sleeper all the same: 427, Rochester Quadra-jet, 400 hp, 375 torque, 10.25:1 compression, Posi-Track, Munci-Michigan Trani......lol.....burned tread in 4 gears.....(a bit of tar on the pavement...ahem....)

Aaarf...I don't even have enough hormones to deal with the octane that b***h burned...lol....

Hey, I survived my first ride!....lol....SurpriseStick out tongueIndifferent

Dom

I envy you guys. My car had a rubber band drive with two chinchillas running in tandem Big Smile.

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, November 11, 2012 8:10 AM

I salute to all that served in our country's military and give thanks on this day, Veteran's Day.  Toast 

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Sunday, November 11, 2012 11:50 AM

Son Of Medicine Man

I salute to all that served in our country's military and give thanks on this day, Veteran's Day.  Toast 

Ken

Here's to that Ken,

and Here's to Berny and your Father!

It's good to see so many more engaged in Canada on Remembrance/Veteran's Day.

Toast

Dom


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Posted by Bockscar on Sunday, November 11, 2012 12:00 PM

Striker8241

Bockscar

Hey guys, forgive me for the note:

I happen to love nuke, for many reasons:

Yeah, that's what I grew up on.ClownClownClown

Gosh,,,,,You can't get a decent description of nuclear war anymore on the web, seems like it has all been shut down.

can i get French Fries with that? SuperSized?

MMMMM....warm my toootsies on that bonfire........waiting for Xclaus to drop a few,...errr....xgifts...lol...

 

Lol Dom!  What in the world are you sprinkling on your cornflakes these days ???!!  Surprise Stick out tongue Propeller

BTW, I remember those days, bro, and I'm happy not to read any descriptions of that kind of bonfire Big Smile.

 

That TU is awesome! I think it's one of the most beautiful planes ever built. BTW, notice the interesting similiarity to the Super Connie...? Big Smile

Russ

Well, you guys always seem to know when I've been up way too late, and have had the

MEK open on my work bench.....Big Smile

I hear you on the realities of those bonfires...

Yes, the Bear does have similarities to the Connie, both had an elegant outline, I was lucky enough to get a Super Connie and the Warning Star version. The other thing that strikes me is the shape of the fuselage and wings, I used to call it the B-52ski.

Hey Russ and Rich,

Happy Veteran's Day,

Thank you for serving your Country, Gentlemen.

Dom

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