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First Annual Berny Memorial Group Build

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Posted by Striker8241 on Sunday, November 11, 2012 1:14 PM

Bockscar

Hey Russ and Rich,

Happy Veteran's Day,

Thank you for serving your Country, Gentlemen.

Dom

Thank you, Dom!

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, November 11, 2012 4:17 PM

Bockscar

Striker8241

Bockscar

Hey guys, forgive me for the note:

I happen to love nuke, for many reasons:

Yeah, that's what I grew up on.ClownClownClown

Gosh,,,,,You can't get a decent description of nuclear war anymore on the web, seems like it has all been shut down.

can i get French Fries with that? SuperSized?

MMMMM....warm my toootsies on that bonfire........waiting for Xclaus to drop a few,...errr....xgifts...lol...

 

Lol Dom!  What in the world are you sprinkling on your cornflakes these days ???!!  Surprise Stick out tongue Propeller

BTW, I remember those days, bro, and I'm happy not to read any descriptions of that kind of bonfire Big Smile.

 

That TU is awesome! I think it's one of the most beautiful planes ever built. BTW, notice the interesting similiarity to the Super Connie...? Big Smile

Russ

Well, you guys always seem to know when I've been up way too late, and have had the

MEK open on my work bench.....Big Smile

I hear you on the realities of those bonfires...

Yes, the Bear does have similarities to the Connie, both had an elegant outline, I was lucky enough to get a Super Connie and the Warning Star version. The other thing that strikes me is the shape of the fuselage and wings, I used to call it the B-52ski.

Hey Russ and Rich,

Happy Veteran's Day,

Thank you for serving your Country, Gentlemen.

Dom

Along with Russ and Rich let's not forget Kbuzz (the other Ken) and Mike M. also veterans that I remember just off the top of my head.  Happy Veteran's Day!  Toast 

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Sunday, November 11, 2012 5:36 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Bockscar

Striker8241

Bockscar

Hey guys, forgive me for the note:

I happen to love nuke, for many reasons:

Yeah, that's what I grew up on.ClownClownClown

Gosh,,,,,You can't get a decent description of nuclear war anymore on the web, seems like it has all been shut down.

can i get French Fries with that? SuperSized?

MMMMM....warm my toootsies on that bonfire........waiting for Xclaus to drop a few,...errr....xgifts...lol...

Lol Dom!  What in the world are you sprinkling on your cornflakes these days ???!!  Surprise Stick out tongue Propeller

BTW, I remember those days, bro, and I'm happy not to read any descriptions of that kind of bonfire Big Smile.

That TU is awesome! I think it's one of the most beautiful planes ever built. BTW, notice the interesting similiarity to the Super Connie...? Big Smile

Russ

Well, you guys always seem to know when I've been up way too late, and have had the

MEK open on my work bench.....Big Smile

I hear you on the realities of those bonfires...

Yes, the Bear does have similarities to the Connie, both had an elegant outline, I was lucky enough to get a Super Connie and the Warning Star version. The other thing that strikes me is the shape of the fuselage and wings, I used to call it the B-52ski.

Hey Russ and Rich,

Happy Veteran's Day,

Thank you for serving your Country, Gentlemen.

Dom

Along with Russ and Rich let's not forget Kbuzz (the other Ken) and Mike M. also veterans that I remember just off the top of my head.  Happy Veteran's Day!  Toast 

Ken

Good call Ken!Yes

Dom

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Posted by Bockscar on Sunday, November 11, 2012 5:44 PM

"Yeah Clem,

it is big all right,

but they sure don't build 'em like they used to"

"Yeah Buck, 'The Quality Goes In, Before the

Tail Falls off'!"

Ouch! The tail mast probably was too tall for the exit, so they folded it down.

Dom

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Posted by mikeymize on Monday, November 12, 2012 12:09 AM

MiG-17 Update: cockpit done and engine well under way. I decided not to worry too much about the power plant as it won't be seen in the finished product. It did however give me practice with NMF and boy oh boy does it show the blemishes! Every little ding and glue blob is magnified. I'm going to be extra special careful with the rest of this jet!

 Very tired due to work schedule etc. so will attempt to make progress this week as time allows; sleep most often prevails in the battle between model building and rest. Must be age catching up with me.

"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time".


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Posted by Striker8241 on Monday, November 12, 2012 5:28 AM

Looking good, Mike! Yes Yes.

Get some rest Big Smile

Russ

 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, November 12, 2012 7:31 AM

Bockscar

"Yeah Clem,

it is big all right,

but they sure don't build 'em like they used to"

"Yeah Buck, 'The Quality Goes In, Before the

Tail Falls off'!"

Ouch! The tail mast probably was too tall for the exit, so they folded it down.

Dom

Yeah, I know what it feels like to get my tail chewed off... Tongue Tied

Happy belated Veteran's Day guys! 

MikeM: Sharp looking work so far! Btw If you can get some Gunze Sangyo Mr. Surfacer to spray the surface of the model it really helps to get a nice smooth surface for the NM.  

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, November 12, 2012 8:46 AM

Nice job Mike M.!!  You have been busy!  Yes  Yes 

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Monday, November 12, 2012 7:12 PM

mikeymize

MiG-17 Update: cockpit done and engine well under way. I decided not to worry too much about the power plant as it won't be seen in the finished product. It did however give me practice with NMF and boy oh boy does it show the blemishes! Every little ding and glue blob is magnified. I'm going to be extra special careful with the rest of this jet!

 Very tired due to work schedule etc. so will attempt to make progress this week as time allows; sleep most often prevails in the battle between model building and rest. Must be age catching up with me.

Mike, Those burner modules look very realistic the way you've done them, also, on those other parts, do you occasionally resort to "ye olde saybl brush"?

Dom

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  • From: Ontario, Canada
Posted by Bockscar on Monday, November 12, 2012 7:31 PM

Hey,

speaking of BBQ, here's a great shot of 'BBQ Delivery', In Less Than 1/2 Hour Or It's Free!!!

See the rest at:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/07/travel/military-marvels/index.html?hpt=us_bn1

Dom

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, November 12, 2012 8:00 PM

Bockscar

Hey,

speaking of BBQ, here's a great shot of 'BBQ Delivery', In Less Than 1/2 Hour Or It's Free!!!

See the rest at:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/07/travel/military-marvels/index.html?hpt=us_bn1

Dom

Way too funny Dom!!  I love it!!  Big Smile  Does that come with bread sticks?  Big Smile  Cool 

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Monday, November 12, 2012 8:12 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Bockscar

Hey,

speaking of BBQ, here's a great shot of 'BBQ Delivery', In Less Than 1/2 Hour Or It's Free!!!

See the rest at:

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/07/travel/military-marvels/index.html?hpt=us_bn1

Dom

Way too funny Dom!!  I love it!!  Big Smile  Does that come with bread sticks?  Big Smile  Cool 

Ken

"Hey Clem, I heard a rumour they nicknamed these things "Bread Sticks", is that so?"

"Dang Buck, yu' got me on that one, I cayn't say fer sure.":

"all I do know, is if'n yu drop one, they are self-toasting...."

"Dang is that so?"

"Dang, it's so, now careful hangin' on there."

Dom

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, November 12, 2012 9:05 PM

Personally I call it Merv... Or is that MIRV?

Either way so hot it's radioactive...

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Monday, November 12, 2012 9:26 PM

Make Every Russian Vanish....poof!

Dang Ruskies, Mr. President, We can't afford

a Bread Stick Gap!!!"

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, November 12, 2012 9:27 PM

Hi Everyone,

You may have noticed that I have not posted any progress on my build for a few days.  The weather was really nice here so I took advantage of it and got some work done outside.  Today the weather returned back to cold so I am back at the workbench.

I took pictures but it is late and I do not want to spend the time to post them tonight.  I will post them tomorrow.  The first thing I worked on was the main wheel bays.  The Aires resin pieces are a lot taller than the molded in parts they are replacing, at least as they come out of the box.  First I filed down the top until I could start to see light through the part.  Then I filed the corners down at 45 degree angles so that when the top wing is laid over them it gives as much clearance as possible.  It is going to take some work to make it all fit.

The next thing I worked on was the avionics bay.  I started to put it into the hole that I had previously cut out and the super glue let go.  I will never use super glue again on resin.  It is worthless.  I will only use epoxy.  Unfortunately the only epoxy I had on hand was some super long setup time stuff.  So off to the store I went.  That pretty well finished off my evening.

Ken

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Posted by Bockscar on Monday, November 12, 2012 9:35 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

You may have noticed that I have not posted any progress on my build for a few days.  The weather was really nice here so I took advantage of it and got some work done outside.  Today the weather returned back to cold so I am back at the workbench.

I took pictures but it is late and I do not want to spend the time to post them tonight.  I will post them tomorrow.  The first thing I worked on was the main wheel bays.  The Aires resin pieces are a lot taller than the molded in parts they are replacing, at least as they come out of the box.  First I filed down the top until I could start to see light through the part.  Then I filed the corners down at 45 degree angles so that when the top wing is laid over them it gives as much clearance as possible.  It is going to take some work to make it all fit.

The next thing I worked on was the avionics bay.  I started to put it into the hole that I had previously cut out and the super glue let go.  I will never use super glue again on resin.  It is worthless.  I will only use epoxy.  Unfortunately the only epoxy I had on hand was some super long setup time stuff.  So off to the store I went.  That pretty well finished off my evening.

Ken

Sounds like real work there Ken!

I hope you are wearing a mask. That amount of dust sounds serious.

I'm sure it is all going to be worth it, looking forward to seeing your progress!Smile

Dom

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, November 13, 2012 9:35 PM

Hi Everyone,

Here are the pictures that I promised last night.  In this picture you can see the difference in height from the original wheel well and the new Aires resin piece.  You can see the part of the left original wheel well in the left side of the picture.  That is the air brakes directly behind the wheel wells.

Here is a closer look at the Aires piece before I started work on it:

 Here is what it looke like after I ground it down as small as I could:

 Another view:

 And here is a picture of the other piece:

I mixed up some epoxy and glued the avionics bay back together.  Hopefully it will hold together so I can get started on the fuselage tomorrow.

By the way Dom, I always turn on my vent whenever I do any sanding or cutting on resin.  In fact, I turn on my vent any time I use any toxic substances such as epoxy, super glue, paint, etc.

Ken 

 

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Posted by mikeymize on Tuesday, November 13, 2012 9:40 PM

In reference to your resin issues Ken, I'll have to file that away in the event I ever get involved with it. I just assumed CA was the adhesive of choice; now I know better. Your work thus far has been exceptional and I have an idea that this build is very special to you. Best of luck as you progress!

 I have started to see how tough this NMF thing is going to be. I'm already having to be super careful filling and sanding as I've seen the results on the engine. I have already slowed down to help eliminate a rough finish. So far gaps haven't been too bad but there's some along the fuselage longitudinally as well as where the fuselage joins to the empennage. I think though, that the results will be pretty decent and I actually don't mind the challenge; it's part of the fun!

  Will post more pics this week end as time permits.

"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time".


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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, November 13, 2012 9:52 PM

Ken: Again, she's looking good!

MikeM: Personally I've gotten to using Gator Grip glue with most of my PE and resin. No I don't own stock in the company or anything but honest I'll never use superglue again as long I can I get GG.

BTW: Finally got the photos from the Mighty Eighth Museum uploaded to PhotoBucket. Sorry it took so long, ISP problems and just putting things off, but they're up now. And a few photos of the aircraft on display on the USS Yorktown, I'm going to see about getting more Yorktown photos added.

Mighty Eighth Photos

And yes the dorky looking guy here is yours truly...

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, November 13, 2012 9:59 PM

mikeymize

In reference to your resin issues Ken, I'll have to file that away in the event I ever get involved with it. I just assumed CA was the adhesive of choice; now I know better. Your work thus far has been exceptional and I have an idea that this build is very special to you. Best of luck as you progress!

 I have started to see how tough this NMF thing is going to be. I'm already having to be super careful filling and sanding as I've seen the results on the engine. I have already slowed down to help eliminate a rough finish. So far gaps haven't been too bad but there's some along the fuselage longitudinally as well as where the fuselage joins to the empennage. I think though, that the results will be pretty decent and I actually don't mind the challenge; it's part of the fun!

  Will post more pics this week end as time permits.

So true Mike, I had issues using CA on photo-etch to attach it to resin.  Cliff told me about a good product for that called "Gator's Grip".  But if it is something that needs any kind of strength, CA is not going to do the job.

Yes, this is the model I was working on when Berny passed.  He had told us about a particular F-4E that was the last aircraft he was a crew chief on.  It has many stories behind it.  Berny himself had built a replica of it.  When we had learned of his cancer, Rich asked if he could build a replica of it.  Since I was already building an F-4E, I also asked Berny if I could build it to resemble it as well.

The cancer took Berny really quick at the end.  When he passed, I could hardly touch this project for a year.  But now I feel the best thing to do is to carry on with his spirit in mind.  It is what he would have wanted.

It sounds like you are getting a pretty good handle on the NMF procedure.  That is something I still want to master.  I have several century series fighters and a few other aircraft I would like to do in NMF.

Ken

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:51 AM

Gamera

Ken: Again, she's looking good!

MikeM: Personally I've gotten to using Gator Grip glue with most of my PE and resin. No I don't own stock in the company or anything but honest I'll never use superglue again as long I can I get GG.

BTW: Finally got the photos from the Mighty Eighth Museum uploaded to PhotoBucket. Sorry it took so long, ISP problems and just putting things off, but they're up now. And a few photos of the aircraft on display on the USS Yorktown, I'm going to see about getting more Yorktown photos added.

Mighty Eighth Photos

And yes the dorky looking guy here is yours truly...

Hi Cliff!

Very nice picture!  Cool to have a face to go along with the name.  Man, you took a lot of pictures on your trip!  Thank you so much for sharing those with us!  You got some really great shots!

Ken

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Posted by Striker8241 on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 6:03 AM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

Here are the pictures that I promised last night.  In this picture you can see the difference in height from the original wheel well and the new Aires resin piece.  You can see the part of the left original wheel well in the left side of the picture.  That is the air brakes directly behind the wheel wells.

Here is a closer look at the Aires piece before I started work on it:

 Here is what it looke like after I ground it down as small as I could:

 Another view:

 And here is a picture of the other piece:

I mixed up some epoxy and glued the avionics bay back together.  Hopefully it will hold together so I can get started on the fuselage tomorrow.

By the way Dom, I always turn on my vent whenever I do any sanding or cutting on resin.  In fact, I turn on my vent any time I use any toxic substances such as epoxy, super glue, paint, etc.

Ken 

 

Hi, Ken! Looking good, bud! Yes Yes.

BTW, what kind of vent are you using? I adapted a range hood vent but it doesn't move much air.

Russ

 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 7:30 AM

Thanks Ken, funny I've got a pile more of the Yorktown, just figured I'd post the aircraft related ones.  I love digital cameras, I can fit over 340 photos on a card the size of a matchbook so there's really no reason not to go 'snap-happy'!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Striker8241 on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:51 AM

Gamera

BTW: Finally got the photos from the Mighty Eighth Museum uploaded to PhotoBucket. Sorry it took so long, ISP problems and just putting things off, but they're up now. And a few photos of the aircraft on display on the USS Yorktown, I'm going to see about getting more Yorktown photos added.

Mighty Eighth Photos

 

And yes the dorky looking guy here is yours truly...

Hi, Cliff. Thanks for taking the time to provide those pictures.

Hey, isn't that cage meant to keep dorky looking guys out of the cockpit??!!  How did you get in there? Big Smile

Russ

 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 1:34 PM

Hi, Cliff. Thanks for taking the time to provide those pictures.

Hey, isn't that cage meant to keep dorky looking guys out of the cockpit??!!  How did you get in there? Big Smile

Russ

Funny, that's the same thing the security guy said as he pulled out his nightstick. I think he used the term 'punk' instead of 'dork' though. Angry

Still, it was worth it, the more I look at the photo the more I think I look like William Holden in 'The Bridges of Toko-Ri' ... Wink

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Scorpiomikey on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 2:21 PM

Lol i always thought those cages were to assist non military types (and fatties like myself lol) into and out of the cockpit so they too can experience the interior of a fighter.

"I am a leaf on the wind, watch how i soar"

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:02 PM

Son Of Medicine Man

Hi Everyone,

Here are the pictures that I promised last night.  In this picture you can see the difference in height from the original wheel well and the new Aires resin piece.  You can see the part of the left original wheel well in the left side of the picture.  That is the air brakes directly behind the wheel wells.

 And here is a picture of the other piece:

I mixed up some epoxy and glued the avionics bay back together.  Hopefully it will hold together so I can get started on the fuselage tomorrow.

By the way Dom, I always turn on my vent whenever I do any sanding or cutting on resin.  In fact, I turn on my vent any time I use any toxic substances such as epoxy, super glue, paint, etc.

Ken 

Ken;

Your patience is showing, very nice sculpting there!

Dom

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:04 PM

Striker8241

Gamera

BTW: Finally got the photos from the Mighty Eighth Museum uploaded to PhotoBucket. Sorry it took so long, ISP problems and just putting things off, but they're up now. And a few photos of the aircraft on display on the USS Yorktown, I'm going to see about getting more Yorktown photos added.

Mighty Eighth Photos

 

And yes the dorky looking guy here is yours truly...

Hi, Cliff. Thanks for taking the time to provide those pictures.

Hey, isn't that cage meant to keep dorky looking guys out of the cockpit??!!  How did you get in there? Big Smile

Russ

Yeah Russ, the staff probably had to put that dork cage up to prevent dorks from exiting on the wrong side!Dunce

Cliff, is that a Panther, or Cougar,,,,, guessing Panther....

Toko-Ri had such a tragic ending, but it did inspire to get one of those carbines.....in a former life.....

Dom

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Posted by Bockscar on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 5:12 PM

Scorpiomikey

Lol i always thought those cages were to assist non military types (and fatties like myself lol) into and out of the cockpit so they too can experience the interior of a fighter.

Holy cow Mikey, where did you ever get the idea your were overweight?

errrr......you are one cruel dude Mikey.....lol....

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, November 14, 2012 6:32 PM

Striker8241

Hi, Ken! Looking good, bud! Yes Yes.

BTW, what kind of vent are you using? I adapted a range hood vent but it doesn't move much air.

Russ

Hi Russ,

Thank you for the compliment!

The vent I am using is a bathroom vent.  I went to the hardware store and purposely bought the highest air volume output unit they had.  I also got it with lights so it has a double function.  It really moves the air when I turn it on.  I also chose the quietest unit at that air volume since I did not want to go deaf.  It was almost the most expensive unit they had but worth every penny.  The only unit higher in price had heat in it but I did not see a purpose for that.

Ken

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