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FW-190 Reich Defender III 5/10-2/11

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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, December 10, 2010 10:25 PM

Thanks Spike and Mobious

Mobious I like that camo, cant wait to seed it with decals on it. Eats

I will be joining round IV if our leader will be willing to put up with me again, and if I can get my mitts on the subject for RD IV. This group is just too much fun and I have been learning a bunch from you guys.

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Daywalker on Saturday, December 11, 2010 8:00 AM

Randy- I am glad to hear you are up for RD IV!  You are most definitely IN! 

Frank 

 

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Posted by bobbaily on Saturday, December 11, 2010 10:27 AM

RD IV?..Indifferent....I must have blinked!  I've been lurking here (and some viewing some great builds-nice work all!) and I picked up a 1/48 Tamiya 190D-9 for RD III-hope to start over the Christmas break.  Also, I've stripped the paint & refinished the 109G-10 that I was working on for RD I.  About 90% complete on that one-I will post pics as soon as I'm finished over on the RD I forum.

btw-what is the theme for RD IV?

 

Bob

 

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Posted by Stumpjumper70 on Sunday, December 12, 2010 7:03 AM

Mornin all.

Finally managed to get some pics of progress on the D-9. Underside now has first coats of paint on it. Am quite pleased with the first pass of pre-shading. Might need some touch up and then the weathering (also a good opportunity to completely ruin it...). The time spent on the rivet detail is starting to pay some dividend now. I wasn't sure to what extent I'd apply any washes to it but the Future kind of took some of the decision out of my hands anyway. The white balance is wrong on some of the pics and have given it a slightly yellow hue. The first pic is most true to life  colour-wise.

Also had my first stab at using bare-metal foil on the undercart. I think I like it but it needs toning down a bit with an umber wash methinks. Also painted the spinner using Eduard masks. I am a big fan of these and they're dead easy to use and less hassle I think than decals! Obviously it helps if you dont then do what I did and smudge the black onto the white. I'll have to out that down to weathering Whistling

By the way, I too am wondering what round IV is?!

 

Next up:

Trumpeter 1/32 Me109E-3

Dragon 1/32 Bf110C-7

Wingnutwings 1/32 Bristol F2B 

 

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q40/daywalker750/GB%20badges/FW-190GBsmall.jpg 

 

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Posted by Mobious on Sunday, December 12, 2010 11:31 AM

Stumpjumper, The D9 is looking terrific. The rivet detail is awesome and well worth the effort! The bare metal foil looks great on the oleo.Yes

 Progress on the Anton. After looking at the camo lines another dozen times or so. Decided to soften them up with a couple of free hand passes with the a/b. The decals are on.  The fuselage band was done with Valejo paints. Panel lines are a dark violet gray, and a lighter mix was used on the RLM 76 areas. Everything is sealed up with a Laquer clear coat. Waiting for this to cure before final weathering is applied. 

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 Mo

"It's a problem of applied physics" Roy Brown

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Posted by maxfax on Sunday, December 12, 2010 8:33 PM

I've been away for awhile- I am amazed at the work that has been done!

Mobius: excellent work- love the camo/painting. You are really knocking them off!

Vetteman: again, great work! Interesting camo, I must say.

Maybe I'm crazy, but I bought  Eduard's Royal Class FW 190 A8/R2 set last night on E-bay- not bad for $80! What sold me was a piece of original plane that you can build in the kit- I envision the completed model with a framed display of the aircraft part, certificate, and the replica Iron Cross behind it. I had a hell of a time with my last one, but got a handle on these Eduard kits now.

 

Rob

On the bench:  Revell 1/72 HCMS Snowberry

 

 

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Posted by Mobious on Wednesday, December 15, 2010 9:52 PM

Thanks for the comments Rob.I like the idea of the display. Sounds cool. Maybe a photo of the pilot too.

 Added the weathering to the A8.  Used  pastels to give variations to the base colors and to help blend everything together. Pastels were also used to add exhaust/MG stains. These were then sealed with a dull coat.

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  Hope to have the antenna rigged and the drop tank added soon.

Mo

"It's a problem of applied physics" Roy Brown

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Posted by vetteman42 on Thursday, December 16, 2010 1:05 AM

Stumpjumper wow the preshading worked very well for you, and the spinner looks fantastic.  IMHO you should leave the smudges there it adds to the weathering I think. I really like the detail on the gear legs too, the decals and foil add a bunch to it very well done so far.

Maxfax thank you sir, but you know I had to be a bit different with the camo Wink

Mobious oh my, Blue 13 is going to be a stunner Bow Down

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Stumpjumper70 on Thursday, December 16, 2010 3:23 AM

Mobious/Vetteman - thanks for the encouragement, i really appreciate it. I think the smudge on the spinner is definitely there to stay!

Mobious - your build looks awesome. Can you tell me how to use the pastels - I might give it a go.

Next up:

Trumpeter 1/32 Me109E-3

Dragon 1/32 Bf110C-7

Wingnutwings 1/32 Bristol F2B 

 

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q40/daywalker750/GB%20badges/FW-190GBsmall.jpg 

 

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Posted by satch_ip on Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:15 AM

What will we be building for RD IV?

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Posted by maxfax on Thursday, December 16, 2010 7:44 AM

I hope the  Me-110. I bought the Revell 1/32 kit last year with full PE, and would like to build it with a GB.

On the bench:  Revell 1/72 HCMS Snowberry

 

 

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Posted by Stumpjumper70 on Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:55 AM

Is the 110 an option then? I have the Dragon 1/32 C-7 sat in its unopened box, courtesy of Spruebrothers half price sale, so would definitely second that.

Next up:

Trumpeter 1/32 Me109E-3

Dragon 1/32 Bf110C-7

Wingnutwings 1/32 Bristol F2B 

 

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q40/daywalker750/GB%20badges/FW-190GBsmall.jpg 

 

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Posted by Spike190 on Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:20 AM

Gorgeous looking 190 Mo, everything looks spot on, I love it!! Bow Down

StumpJumper yours is coming along great, nice paint work and the rivet work looks excellent under the paint. Cant wait to see more asap.

Cheers...

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by Mobious on Thursday, December 16, 2010 3:13 PM

 Vetteman, Thanks for comments and the tips. The A/B is working fine! It's a real treat not to have to fiddle with it constantly.

 Spike, Thanks for the kind words and encouragement. Looking forward to RDIV too. I've a Revell 1/48 Me110 G-4 sitting in the stash collecting dust.

 Stumpjumper, Thanks for the comments. The pastels can be applied over a laquer gloss coat either dry with a brush then burnished with a soft cloth/ cotton swab, or with water for panel lines. The nice thing is they clean up easy. I have a question for you, how did you do that amazing rivet detail?

 Mo

"It's a problem of applied physics" Roy Brown

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Posted by Stumpjumper70 on Thursday, December 16, 2010 5:11 PM

Mobious - this is a technique swap! The rivets were done by putting a sewing pin in a pin vice and using Tamiya masking tape as a guide. I just pressed each one individually and as you create the indent, the plastic around it expands slightly upwards which gives it the raised effect. I know it sounds insane but give it a go - you'll be surprised how quickly you can get some speed up and you can easily do a whole wing surface in a couple of hours. The biggest problem I had was finding the rivet patterns in the first place (check out the Photo Hobby Manual for the 190).

Thanks for the info on the pastels. So it's just a case of dry brushing on the pastel dust? I'll see if I can lay my hands on some ASAP!

Last question Mobious, the Defence of the Reich bands - did they go on last or did you put them on after the lichtblau, and then camo after that? It's my next step, y'see!

Next up:

Trumpeter 1/32 Me109E-3

Dragon 1/32 Bf110C-7

Wingnutwings 1/32 Bristol F2B 

 

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q40/daywalker750/GB%20badges/FW-190GBsmall.jpg 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:25 PM

Excellent work fellas, love those birds! 

I was thinking of "Nightfighters" as the theme for RD IV.  I am really wanting to build either an He-219 or a -262B.  Whaddya think?

Frank 

 

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Posted by Mobious on Friday, December 17, 2010 4:27 AM

Daywalker, Nightfighters would be an excellent subject.Yes

"It's a problem of applied physics" Roy Brown

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Posted by Spike190 on Friday, December 17, 2010 5:49 AM

Frank, Nightfighters sounds great, please count me in for RDIV Yes

Cheers...

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by satch_ip on Friday, December 17, 2010 7:11 AM

There is a night fighter GB starting in January.  Maybe Zerstorers and Schlachtflieger?

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Posted by Daywalker on Friday, December 17, 2010 7:46 AM

satch_ip

There is a night fighter GB starting in January.  Maybe Zerstorers and Schlachtflieger?

Ah yes... I forgot about that!  How about the Schlachtflieger then?  A Stuka sounds like a fun build to me!

Frank 

 

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Posted by Stumpjumper70 on Friday, December 17, 2010 8:34 AM

Schlachtflieger? Is that ground attack? That sounds like a good idea. One question though - my technical knowledge is not great in this respect but weren't most fighters used in a ground support role at some time or another? Am sure you chaps will figure this out with only specific variants allowed ? Smile

Next up:

Trumpeter 1/32 Me109E-3

Dragon 1/32 Bf110C-7

Wingnutwings 1/32 Bristol F2B 

 

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q40/daywalker750/GB%20badges/FW-190GBsmall.jpg 

 

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Posted by vetteman42 on Friday, December 17, 2010 9:44 AM

Daywalker

 satch_ip:

There is a night fighter GB starting in January.  Maybe Zerstorers and Schlachtflieger?

 

Ah yes... I forgot about that!  How about the Schlachtflieger then?  A Stuka sounds like a fun build to me!

YES YES !! I am in for a Stuka build Yeah Been wanting to build another one for sometime now. I even have a 1/48 Revell on the shelf waiting. Gotta love those 50% off coupons ya know. Stick out tongue

Randy So many to build.......So little time

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Posted by Spike190 on Friday, December 17, 2010 11:52 AM

I'd certainly have a bash at a Stuka, maybe the new Italeri one.

Cheers...

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by Thunderbolt379 on Friday, December 17, 2010 6:05 PM

Stukas? Great idea -- I have some Fujimi 72s and a reboxed Hasegawa 48. But there were other ground attack and antitank planes too -- Fw 190 F-8 (as we know), the Hs 129, and after the invasion Hitler (nearsightedly) ordered every new aircraft to be capable of carrying bombs -- does that mean anything post June '44 could be tacitly considered Sclachtflieger??? Interesting!

Another possibility could be Luftwaffe twin engine types -- of any and all respects -- for a future RD.

Cheers, Mike/TB379

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Posted by Mobious on Friday, December 17, 2010 7:17 PM

Well, I guess there is a Hasegawa 1/48 Stuka in the stash. An F-8 in winter camo sounds cool too.  Count me in on RDIV. Would have liked to seen Daywalker build that 219 though.Crying

 Stumpjumper,  The defense bands went on last. Painting the white first then the blue. Just found a set of drawings that include the rivets for an Anton, looks like I'll be giving that rivet technique a try on an A-3.

Mo

"It's a problem of applied physics" Roy Brown

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Posted by Spike190 on Saturday, December 18, 2010 3:55 AM

Anyone know of an online resource for drawings showing rivet lines? May give it ago on my Mosquito Wink

Cheers...

Mike  Toast

 

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Posted by Stumpjumper70 on Saturday, December 18, 2010 9:14 AM

Afternoon all, seasons greetings. Hope you're all keepin' warm (northern hemisphere!)...

Been experimenting with some guitar string and lead foil from a wine bottle to make some brake lines. Seen this done elsewhere so gave it a try. It came up OK but it's very difficult to align the attachments to the vertical as the string has very little flex in it. Also, I have managed to find NO reference pictures of the actual connection itself so is pretty much guesswork. Anyone got any pics they can share?

 

Next up:

Trumpeter 1/32 Me109E-3

Dragon 1/32 Bf110C-7

Wingnutwings 1/32 Bristol F2B 

 

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q40/daywalker750/GB%20badges/FW-190GBsmall.jpg 

 

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Posted by krow113 on Saturday, December 18, 2010 12:29 PM

Sjumper the gear looks good ,needs finishing . Here is a page from this book ,I highly recommend it:

 

Here is the page:

 

This book is the last of perhaps 10 that I got for my build ,it answered all my remaining questions including where the brake line enters the wheel hub .I would place it above center of the axle .

And clean up those oleo scissors!

Thank you ,Krow113

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Posted by Stumpjumper70 on Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:50 AM

Hi Krow - thanks very much for this, that's a great help. I also searched on Me109 wheels as a last resort and found this picture which finally shows the attachment:

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA2/1001-1100/walk1019-Bf-109-Large/08.shtm

As for the oleo scissors, I didn't know what you meant at first but yes, you are so right. There's nothing like a macro photo to show up your model's flaws! Oops

Next up:

Trumpeter 1/32 Me109E-3

Dragon 1/32 Bf110C-7

Wingnutwings 1/32 Bristol F2B 

 

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q40/daywalker750/GB%20badges/FW-190GBsmall.jpg 

 

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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, December 19, 2010 9:01 AM

Thanks Mo, I appreciate that!  May just build that -219 later next year. Wink

Sounds like a lot of interest in the Stuka, so let's do that one for RD IV!  I'll put together a badge soon as I can, but until then- here's some details:

Begins 2/1/11 and runs for 6 months ending 7/31/11

Must have fun!

Any variant (A, B, C, D, G) which served between 9/1/1939 and 5/8/1945 over Europe

Any scale, OOB or as much AM as you can put into it

Prior works in progress welcome, anything before final assembly

As many photos as you can share of the build

 

Frank 

 

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